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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:33:04 AM EST
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Some agencies allow it. I'd think those agencies should be held liable for any deaths incurred as a result $$$ You'd be wrong. Deaths don't occur because of it. They have these things called "other dispatchers" that take up the slack. They don't sleep in the center itself at any of the ones here. They have quiet dark areas they can go to. Your blind dislike of .gov employees in this instance is based in a certain level of simply not knowing shit about it. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:34:26 AM EST
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This thread makes me nod off. Just a bunch of ignorant people spouting off what they think a dispatcher should do. Oh yeah.... this reply is being transmitted from a squad car.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:36:08 AM EST
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This thread makes me nod off. Just a bunch of ignorant people spouting off what they think a dispatcher should do. Oh yeah.... this reply is being transmitted from a squad car. I post while running a pump fairly often. I guess I should be pulling levers or something. 
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:37:53 AM EST
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What do I win ?
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:39:35 AM EST
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I'd think those agencies should be held liable for any deaths incurred as a result $$$ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Some agencies allow it. I'd think those agencies should be held liable for any deaths incurred as a result $$$ They should, though there are many more serious risks going on every day at thousands of centers all across the US. Pictures of people sleeping look bad, but there are tons of things that could be fixed before this that would have a greater positive impact. I'd take those sleeping dispatchers with access to proven protocols any day of the week over centers who freelance. ETA: that said, I'll stick to my original response that sleeping on the job shouldn't be happening, and agency supervisors and administrators are responsible for it. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:41:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I post while running a pump fairly often. I guess I should be pulling levers or something. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This thread makes me nod off. Just a bunch of ignorant people spouting off what they think a dispatcher should do. Oh yeah.... this reply is being transmitted from a squad car. I post while running a pump fairly often. I guess I should be pulling levers or something.  |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:42:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I PAY YOUR SALARY YOU SON OF A BITCH! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This thread makes me nod off. Just a bunch of ignorant people spouting off what they think a dispatcher should do. Oh yeah.... this reply is being transmitted from a squad car. I post while running a pump fairly often. I guess I should be pulling levers or something. Do you wish to make joinder with him? |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:43:04 AM EST
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I PAY YOUR SALARY YOU SON OF A BITCH!
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This thread makes me nod off. Just a bunch of ignorant people spouting off what they think a dispatcher should do. Oh yeah.... this reply is being transmitted from a squad car. I post while running a pump fairly often. I guess I should be pulling levers or something.
I doubt anyone who says that actually pays much in the way of taxes. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:43:39 AM EST
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I had no idea sleeping on the job was so common
I'm going to have a talk with the boss come Monday morning. ... Seems I have been missing out all this time  |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:44:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:I PAY YOUR SALARY YOU SON OF A BITCH! I doubt anyone who says that actually pays much in the way of taxes. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:44:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you wish to make joinder with him? |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:44:48 AM EST
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My mother was a 911 operator for 20 years. Her and a another co-worker answered more calls combined than the rest of the call takers.
She answer about 35% per shift, her co-worker did about 42% in his shift, and the rest (About 4-5 operators) made up the rest. This is how it is in a big city, unionized work force. It was shameful. I am union member (FOP), and feel they do a great job, but it does lead to Many workers becoming lazy. And when it comes to emergency personnel, there Is no room for laziness. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:45:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had no idea sleeping on the job was so common I'm going to have a talk with the boss come Monday morning. ... Seems I have been missing out all this time |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:47:35 AM EST
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They go the itis
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:50:40 AM EST
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I post while running a pump fairly often. I guess I should be pulling levers or something. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread makes me nod off. Just a bunch of ignorant people spouting off what they think a dispatcher should do. Oh yeah.... this reply is being transmitted from a squad car. I post while running a pump fairly often. I guess I should be pulling levers or something. LOOK BUSY! |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:51:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOOK BUSY! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This thread makes me nod off. Just a bunch of ignorant people spouting off what they think a dispatcher should do. Oh yeah.... this reply is being transmitted from a squad car. I post while running a pump fairly often. I guess I should be pulling levers or something. LOOK BUSY! What if nobody is watching? |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:52:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if nobody is watching? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This thread makes me nod off. Just a bunch of ignorant people spouting off what they think a dispatcher should do. Oh yeah.... this reply is being transmitted from a squad car. I post while running a pump fairly often. I guess I should be pulling levers or something. LOOK BUSY! What if nobody is watching? |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:53:35 AM EST
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Darn, I was assuming Ohio.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:55:29 AM EST
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It's a good thing private sector employees never sleep on the clock! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Government employees sleeping on the job? Shocking. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's a good thing private sector employees never sleep on the clock! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile One guy did at my place and was let go within 2 hours. (About how long it took hr to handle paperwork). Not tolerated there. The difference is in how its handled. Its unfortunate one union place I worked at it was swept under the rug, no repercussions of any kind. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 6:58:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One guy did at my place and was let go within 2 hours. (About how long it took hr to handle paperwork). Not tolerated there. The difference is in how its handled. Its unfortunate one union place I worked at it was swept under the rug, no repercussions of any kind. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Government employees sleeping on the job? Shocking. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's a good thing private sector employees never sleep on the clock! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile One guy did at my place and was let go within 2 hours. (About how long it took hr to handle paperwork). Not tolerated there. The difference is in how its handled. Its unfortunate one union place I worked at it was swept under the rug, no repercussions of any kind. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:02:08 AM EST
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Who clearly had plenty of free time himself. Why is walking around taking photos on the job less a scandal than sleeping? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those people are working long hours at forced overtime due to understaffing and yet they still manage to get the job done. "Concerned co worker" my ass; there is nothing lower than a disgruntled rat. Who clearly had plenty of free time himself. Why is walking around taking photos on the job less a scandal than sleeping? Perhaps the person taking photos merely turned while at their station to snap the pic? |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:02:42 AM EST
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So fucking what? Most 911 stations are manned by several employees at the same time and many don't get a call for several hours on end. Show me where a 911 station failed to receive a call, then I might get excited. I made a call to 911 that went unanswered once. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:03:39 AM EST
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I had no idea sleeping on the job was so common I'm going to have a talk with the boss come Monday morning. ... Seems I have been missing out all this time
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:04:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Progressive Insurance has rooms with super comfy chairs you can nap in (so says one of my coworkers, who used to work there). My employer has "nap forms" we can fill out and take a half hour nap. But my job's a little different, there's been plenty of days where the dispatcher told us right from the get go "My boss' boss says you're not working today". And CDL drivers get paid to sleep when they're out of hours. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:09:25 AM EST
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I PAY YOUR SALARY YOU SON OF A BITCH!
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This thread makes me nod off. Just a bunch of ignorant people spouting off what they think a dispatcher should do. Oh yeah.... this reply is being transmitted from a squad car. I post while running a pump fairly often. I guess I should be pulling levers or something.
Well give me a raise, asshole.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:10:33 AM EST
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I have a bed at work......I use it alot.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:10:56 AM EST
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I made a call to 911 that went unanswered once. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So fucking what? Most 911 stations are manned by several employees at the same time and many don't get a call for several hours on end. Show me where a 911 station failed to receive a call, then I might get excited. I made a call to 911 that went unanswered once. Why? |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:12:26 AM EST
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Perhaps the person taking photos merely turned while at their station to snap the pic? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those people are working long hours at forced overtime due to understaffing and yet they still manage to get the job done. "Concerned co worker" my ass; there is nothing lower than a disgruntled rat. Who clearly had plenty of free time himself. Why is walking around taking photos on the job less a scandal than sleeping? Perhaps the person taking photos merely turned while at their station to snap the pic? Perhaps. I'm sure they were diligently "working." Funny, I first got hooked on arfcom years ago working at a job with a boss like some posters here. When sitting at my desk, when I wasn't actively doing my job (which meant not sitting at my desk, unless I was finalizing details for the next time I left my desk), I had very little to do. So, I fucked around online, waiting for e-mails to show up. That made me look productive. Sleeping would often have been far more productive, but sleeping would have gotten me in trouble. Heck, not being at my desk for any reason could - I was afraid to take a shit. Those were 12-16 hour days usually. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:14:47 AM EST
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You're right 90% of the time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I doubt anyone who says that actually pays much in the way of taxes. On the ten, it's probably their husbands that pay taxes, and buy the 3lb dog and 2lbs worth of jewelry. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:16:33 AM EST
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My employer has "nap forms" we can fill out and take a half hour nap. But my job's a little different, there's been plenty of days where the dispatcher told us right from the get go "My boss' boss says you're not working today". And CDL drivers get paid to sleep when they're out of hours. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Progressive Insurance has rooms with super comfy chairs you can nap in (so says one of my coworkers, who used to work there). My employer has "nap forms" we can fill out and take a half hour nap. But my job's a little different, there's been plenty of days where the dispatcher told us right from the get go "My boss' boss says you're not working today". And CDL drivers get paid to sleep when they're out of hours. Only if you work for walmart. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:17:01 AM EST
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Am I the only one that noticed the mysterious and ghostly floating EBR in this photo?
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:22:12 AM EST
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If nobody is calling and their workspace is clean, what work are they supposed to be doing exactly? How do you know they're neglecting their duties? It is in fact possible to be in a light sleep and ready to answer the phone when it rings. Did they fail to answer any calls? Quote HistoryQuoted:
If nobody is calling and their workspace is clean, what work are they supposed to be doing exactly? How do you know they're neglecting their duties? It is in fact possible to be in a light sleep and ready to answer the phone when it rings. Did they fail to answer any calls? A) The photo shows fraud. The media is reporting that training was supposed to be taking place and instead the Dispatch Supevisor and her student were both asleep. B) Show us where in the Job Description for a Dispatch Supervisor that states that is part of your duties to sleep while on the clock (i.e. not on break). It's just making excuses for laziness and stealing a salary for work not provided. To be honest, you really can't complain about 911 operators ignoring 911 calls when Miami cops ignore 911 dispatches for emergencies. Several Miami-Dade Officers Fired, Suspended For Dereliction Of Duty February 4, 2013 
MIAMI (CBS4) – The Miami Dade Police Department has fired a sergeant and two officers for dereliction of duty and suspended three others without pay in what is considered one of the worst incidents of delinquency in the department’s history.
The accusations vary against each officer, but they include: failing to respond to emergency calls, pretending to be on calls when they weren’t, and falsifying police records. The officers – an entire squad assigned to patrol a large swath of Kendall – were followed and caught on surveillance video by Internal Affairs in 2010. Investigators even used tracking devices on the officers’ cars to catalog their movements. But it wasn’t until September 2012 that they were ultimately disciplined. The most egregious incident involved an emergency call in which a five month old child was unconscious and in need of medical attention. Both Socarras and paramedics are dispatched, with each being told to proceed with lights and sirens.
Socarras tells the dispatcher he is “en route.” In reality, he was sitting at an outdoor table at Casa Larios drinking coffee. He never tried to go to the call. Paramedics would reach and care for the child. And even though he didn’t go, Socarras wrote on his daily report that he went to the scene. http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/02/04/several-miami-dade-officers-fired-suspended-for-dereliction-of-duty/ |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:26:56 AM EST
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Is there anything "familiar" w/ those photographs ? Yeah they're .gov workers. We slept constantly at work. i liked the photos of the corrections officer sleeping, the photos taken by an inmate standing three feet away with no bars or glass separating them. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:36:08 AM EST
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Fat people need sleep too. Seriously, they're all fat. ?? High stress job, nighttime and rotating shifts, incredible amounts of unscheduled mandatory OT and a sedentary job means a completely fucked up circadian rhythm, irregular eating habits and trying to maintain an exercise schedule is impossible. Crappy sleeping, eat what you can grab when you can grab it and no time for the gym means yeah, these folks have a hard time keeping weight off. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:39:50 AM EST
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No problem with this from my point of view. Way too many unknowns here. I spent two years as a C-shift supervisor. Almost every night someone would fall asleep. Sometimes it would be me. It was never the same people so I never did much about it. Some would sleep during breaks or during lunch. We were all permanent third shift. I would get what I called "the slows". The whole world would shift into slow motion. Even when walking it was like walking in slow motion. A quick 5 or 10 minute rest and I would be good to go for the rest of the shift. It only happened once a month or so, but it when it did you could not fight it.
FWIW, I came off third shift in 1985 and I still feel the effects of what lack of sleep did to me during those two years. It's like all my get up and go got up and left. I really have to force myself to maintain any sort of ambition to get things done. Essentially working third shit was two solid years of jet lag. Every weekend I would switch to days for the family. One day my kids came up to me and told me that I should tell my boss I was going back on days because I was a lot nicer then. ETA: I did get sick and tired of all comments about the night shift during management meetings. I finally asked one of the worst offenders why my shift had 1/3 the absentee rate of his shift and why my shift. which had half as many techs as his, was able to get twice as much testing done. From my point of view my people were working 4 times as hard as his and that he should tend to his own crew first. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:41:14 AM EST
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So fucking what? Most 911 stations are manned by several employees at the same time and many don't get a call for several hours on end. Show me where a 911 station failed to receive a call, then I might get excited. Your type will never work for me. I have dispatchers and we have plenty for them to do. What do you mean, "Your type"?
I have a few employees that sleep while they work for me. They are on call just in case of an emergency. If they miss the call, guess what? We have a redundant backup system so another person gets the call. If only they had such a thing, or maybe one of them audible alarm thingy's,,, |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:43:43 AM EST
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Where the hell did I say that? If I call 911, I want someone alert and firing on all 8 cylinders, not groggy and disoriented because I just interrupted their nap. They're getting a salary paid for by tax dollars, they have no reason to be napping and getting paid for it. They and their supervisors need tobe terminated. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Ever worked Public Safety Dispatch? Should they be napping? no. But i challenge you to work that job 6 months and get back to us. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:59:11 AM EST
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Posted: 2/2/2014 7:59:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you mean, "Your type"? I have a few employees that sleep while they work for me. They are on call just in case of an emergency. If they miss the call, guess what? We have a redundant backup system so another person gets the call. If only they had such a thing, or maybe one of them audible alarm thingy's,,, Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So fucking what? Most 911 stations are manned by several employees at the same time and many don't get a call for several hours on end. Show me where a 911 station failed to receive a call, then I might get excited. Your type will never work for me. I have dispatchers and we have plenty for them to do. What do you mean, "Your type"? I have a few employees that sleep while they work for me. They are on call just in case of an emergency. If they miss the call, guess what? We have a redundant backup system so another person gets the call. If only they had such a thing, or maybe one of them audible alarm thingy's,,, Union Steward? |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 8:01:40 AM EST
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Obama's 'A' team |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 8:05:07 AM EST
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Dispatch can you run a party for locals and NCIC?....Dispatch ?
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Posted: 2/2/2014 8:06:03 AM EST
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Is this thread a competition to see who can feign the most outrage?
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Posted: 2/2/2014 8:06:12 AM EST
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what do you expect when you have diabetes and your the size of a whale Needs a CPAP machine built into the call center |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 8:58:56 AM EST
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Likely the only result of any investigation into this malfeasance will be counseling and a raise for all involved.
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Posted: 2/2/2014 9:12:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No problem with this from my point of view. Way too many unknowns here. I spent two years as a C-shift supervisor. Almost every night someone would fall asleep. Sometimes it would be me. It was never the same people so I never did much about it. Some would sleep during breaks or during lunch. We were all permanent third shift. I would get what I called "the slows". The whole world would shift into slow motion. Even when walking it was like walking in slow motion. A quick 5 or 10 minute rest and I would be good to go for the rest of the shift. It only happened once a month or so, but it when it did you could not fight it. FWIW, I came off third shift in 1985 and I still feel the effects of what lack of sleep did to me during those two years. It's like all my get up and go got up and left. I really have to force myself to maintain any sort of ambition to get things done. Essentially working third shit was two solid years of jet lag. Every weekend I would switch to days for the family. One day my kids came up to me and told me that I should tell my boss I was going back on days because I was a lot nicer then. ETA: I did get sick and tired of all comments about the night shift during management meetings. I finally asked one of the worst offenders why my shift had 1/3 the absentee rate of his shift and why my shift. which had half as many techs as his, was able to get twice as much testing done. From my point of view my people were working 4 times as hard as his and that he should tend to his own crew first. This gentlemen gets it. Unless you've worked it, you have no idea. It's even worse if you're on rotating shifts, your body never gets a chance to get on any sort of a normal cycle. I've been on straight mids now for the better part of nine years. If i told you I never fell asleep, I'd be a liar. Imagine it's 4AM, you're all arf'ed out, nothing else to do but stare at the clock, guess what happens. I can be a lot more lenient for a few minutes, but sleeping for a long time in REM mode is totally wrong. And our mids crew is more productive than eves or days too. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 9:27:42 AM EST
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Dispatch can you run a party for locals and NCIC?....Dispatch ? Truth be told, it's a lot easier to not realize there's traffic on the radio than it is to not realize the phone is ringing, especially in a center with multiple positions and multiple channels/talkgroups. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:25:12 AM EST
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Not unless you are suggesting they are missing calls whole sleeping. I find the idea that people are sleeping while the phones are ringing a bit absurd. Perhaps you do not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing new http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Stopping-Unanswered-911-Calls-227935821.html http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/12/20/mpls-residents-say-911-calls-are-going-unanswered/ http://www.inquisitr.com/674156/911-calls-unanswered/ http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/09/texas-man-hit-by-car-when-911-calls-go-unanswered/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/over-1000-south-side-911_n_188273.html http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/03/25/911_calls_go_unanswered/ What does a busy 911 center in Colorado Springs have to do with this? How do I get in on this gig? I posted at least 6 different news stories of unanswered 911 calls and you cant connect the dots with the sleeping 911 call center employees? Not unless you are suggesting they are missing calls whole sleeping. I find the idea that people are sleeping while the phones are ringing a bit absurd. Perhaps you do not. Never pulled CQ I take it. |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:33:55 AM EST
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Is this thread a competition to see who can feign the most outrage? http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu42uc6YIL1r13hpd.jpg That is an arfcom specialty! |
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:38:48 AM EST
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Posted: 2/2/2014 11:56:04 AM EST
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Nothing new http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Stopping-Unanswered-911-Calls-227935821.html http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/12/20/mpls-residents-say-911-calls-are-going-unanswered/ http://www.inquisitr.com/674156/911-calls-unanswered/ http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/09/texas-man-hit-by-car-when-911-calls-go-unanswered/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/over-1000-south-side-911_n_188273.html http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/03/25/911_calls_go_unanswered/ Wow I took way to long to actually go and read these. Two stories involve 911 calls that were answered, but for which no units were available to respond. Doesn't have anything to do with sleeping. Three stories have to do with 911 call centers who didn't have staffing enough during periods of extremely high call volume. Nothing to do with sleeping. One story speaks of a situation where 3 of 4 calltakers were on break, so a 911 call went unanswered. This possibly had something to do with sleeping. |
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