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Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:25:32 PM EST
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I lived in Dallas for a year and a half. Spent two weeks there last year. I would say it's a toss up.
Wow
West TX is far worse. If any of y’all have Instagram visit 285fuckups.  I spend A LOT of time out west and it’s absolutely insane.

DFW traffic doesn’t hold a candle to the thunderDome.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:26:36 PM EST
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What are the facts so far?
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:26:56 PM EST
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Go ahead and log out. Damn.
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I think I'll stay.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:27:16 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:27:54 PM EST
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West TX is far worse. If any of y’all have Instagram visit 285fuckups.  I spend A LOT of time out west and it’s absolutely insane.

DFW traffic doesn’t hold a candle to the thunderDome.
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I lived in Dallas for a year and a half. Spent two weeks there last year. I would say it's a toss up.
Wow
West TX is far worse. If any of y’all have Instagram visit 285fuckups.  I spend A LOT of time out west and it’s absolutely insane.

DFW traffic doesn’t hold a candle to the thunderDome.
I've driven out there plenty. It is a complete cluster fuck.

None of them deserve to die.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:31:08 PM EST
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The guy who filmed one of the videos of the cops taking the suspect out just said the cops threw a flash bang into the back of the postal vehicle.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:33:01 PM EST
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The guy who filmed one of the videos of the cops taking the suspect out just said the cops threw a flash bang into the back of the postal vehicle.
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And it didn't catch fire? wow I would have thought there would have been flames with that.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:33:48 PM EST
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Damn. I'm just barely hearing about this. I used to live in San Angelo and would routinely drive out there to take direct flights from Southwest into Vegas. West TX is pretty rural and pretty red so this is an odd place for this to take place. I'll reserve judgment until more info is known..
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:34:16 PM EST
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OK, enough already with this damn circle jerk.....What the fuck happened?

I've gone back six pages and haven't figured it out what with all the two-step BS.

Best i can tell is some guy shot at the cops during a traffic stop.....took of, shooting folks as he went....Somehow got a mail truck....continued shooting folks....Then got deaded.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:35:14 PM EST
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Still no ID on the shooter or weapon used.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:36:01 PM EST
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If you worked with the FBI in the past then you know that assistance to local and state LE when requested is one of the seven core missions on the FBI. The Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012 permits the U.S. attorney general—at the request of appropriate state or local law enforcement personnel—to provide federal assistance during active shooter incidents and mass killings (defined by the law as three or more people) in public places. The attorney general delegated this responsibility to the FBI.

There are things the FBI does well and things they don’t. One of those things the FBI does very well is crime scene processing. Another is  bringing in large numbers of trained personnel on short notice.

No matter how good the Midland, Odessa and DPS teams are, this incident involves multiple crime scenes over a large area. If you have worked crime scenes you know working them properly is a lot of work. Many hands make light work.

Also it’s not just the postal  truck, there are federal murder statutes The murder of a postal employee (or any federal employee) in the course of their employment is a federal crime under 18 USC 1114.
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And you used the appropriate word..."request".
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:36:21 PM EST
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WTF is with the goddamned headline?

Police kill WHITE gunman.

Im getting damn tired of this shit.

Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:36:25 PM EST
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You get bonus points for not being able to defend yourself on on a public roadway.  Shame on you for not being able to defend your loved ones.   Shame on you for not being able to defend the innocent.  You must have a plan for this.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:36:34 PM EST
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OK, enough already with this damn circle jerk.....What the fuck happened?

I've gone back six pages and haven't figured it out what with all the two-step BS.

Best i can tell is some guy shot at the cops during a traffic stop.....took of, shooting folks as he went....Somehow got a mail truck....continued shooting folks....Then got deaded.
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Nailed it!
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:37:50 PM EST
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OK, enough already with this damn circle jerk.....What the fuck happened?

I've gone back six pages and haven't figured it out what with all the two-step BS.

Best i can tell is some guy shot at the cops during a traffic stop.....took of, shooting folks as he went....Somehow got a mail truck....continued shooting folks....Then got deaded.
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Yeah, that's pretty much all we know for sure right now too.

21 shot and 5 dead I believe?
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:38:15 PM EST
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OK, enough already with this damn circle jerk.....What the fuck happened?

I've gone back six pages and haven't figured it out what with all the two-step BS.

Best i can tell is some guy shot at the cops during a traffic stop.....took of, shooting folks as he went....Somehow got a mail truck....continued shooting folks....Then got deaded.
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Best you can tell is exactly what happened and all anyone knows for sure.  Not a whole lot of concrete info is getting released.  Shooter is a "white male in his mid 30's."
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:38:20 PM EST
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OK, enough already with this damn circle jerk.....What the fuck happened?

I've gone back six pages and haven't figured it out what with all the two-step BS.

Best i can tell is some guy shot at the cops during a traffic stop.....took of, shooting folks as he went....Somehow got a mail truck....continued shooting folks....Then got deaded.
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Looks like you are caught up with us then.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:39:23 PM EST
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No  asshole, i guess the barrel pointed out of the window and the glass exploding from the outside, to to the inner laminate, woould give me no clue to a culling.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:39:54 PM EST
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If he was stopped by the cops and suddenly started shooting, as Fox is reporting, I'm going with sovereign citizen.

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Pedo.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:40:15 PM EST
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I'm going to take a break from this for a bit.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:40:50 PM EST
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Traffic trying to get through there must be awful with the interstate shut down.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/390973/Screenshot_20190831-210448_Maps-1074398.jpg
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I just did it twice.  20 is open, the ramps all aren't though so the service roads are backed the fuck up with trucks/oilfield traffic.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:41:50 PM EST
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WTF is with the goddamned headline?

Police kill WHITE gunman.

Im getting damn tired of this shit.

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Yea they just added that in too.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:43:14 PM EST
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Just saw the headline in my email. Crazy. This guy really swung for the fences.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:43:20 PM EST
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OK, enough already with this damn circle jerk.....What the fuck happened?

I've gone back six pages and haven't figured it out what with all the two-step BS.

Best i can tell is some guy shot at the cops during a traffic stop.....took of, shooting folks as he went....Somehow got a mail truck....continued shooting folks....Then got deaded.
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Guy gets pulled over by two DPS officers on i20 for failure to use turn signal. He slow rolls his vehicle while firing a rifle out of the back window, hitting one DPS Officer. He speeds away shooting at other drivers between Midland and Odessa. He hijacks a postal vehicle and continues on until he rams a road block and one cop does a couple mag dumps into the postal van. 21 people injured (3 Leo's), 5 dead. Shooter white male, 30s, dead, hasn't been ID'd yet.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:43:30 PM EST
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You get bonus points for not being able to defend yourself on on a public roadway.  Shame on you for not being able to defend your loved ones.   Shame on you for not being able to defend the innocent.  You must have a plan for this.
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shame on your for not quoting the person you are replying to so anyone can figure out who the hell you're talking to
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:43:53 PM EST
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Looks like you are caught up with us then.
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OK, enough already with this damn circle jerk.....What the fuck happened?

I've gone back six pages and haven't figured it out what with all the two-step BS.

Best i can tell is some guy shot at the cops during a traffic stop.....took of, shooting folks as he went....Somehow got a mail truck....continued shooting folks....Then got deaded.
Looks like you are caught up with us then.
It was a chore.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:44:59 PM EST
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Kind of makes sense, if the guy was a sovereign citizen, he would be known by police from prior contact.
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Not why he was known.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:46:01 PM EST
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Or a drug dealer, or a pedo, or a lot of things actually.

He was ambiguous enough that nearly every type of lunatic shitstain would fit.
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One of these is correct.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:47:44 PM EST
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One of these is correct.
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Well, spill then and quit teasing.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:48:24 PM EST
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Damn. I'm just barely hearing about this. I used to live in San Angelo and would routinely drive out there to take direct flights from Southwest into Vegas. West TX is pretty rural and pretty red so this is an odd place for this to take place. I'll reserve judgment until more info is known..
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There was certainly a time when I would have called that "God's Country". It sure seemed like that when I was on Goodfellow.

Since then, the folks of San Angelo have lit the Lone Wolf Bridge up in rainbow colors at least once. That's a bridge, of course, out the back gate of GAFB. I'm awful familiar with it because I was fortunate enough to lay my hands on a murder weapon in those waters. Strictly a pedestrian crossing now.

That place has gotten to be a bit big for me. That's now an eastern edge of the Permian.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:49:01 PM EST
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Jesse Pinkman?
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:51:02 PM EST
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Fuck !
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:51:13 PM EST
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Breitbart says that the 17 month old is expected to recover. Trooper is in serious but stable condition. Gofund me for the little girl is over $70k already.

"UPDATE 8:00 p.m.: KENS5 reporter Audrey Castoreno tweeted a photo she says is of the baby that was shot in Odessa. She said she was a member of the Junior League with the baby's mother. She said the baby is expected to survive having been struck by a bullet fragment."

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/08/31/multiple-people-shot-in-west-texas-active-shooter-incident/
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Well that's great news to hear. Here's hoping the baby has a full recovery and no longterm complications.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:53:38 PM EST
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Y'ALL CUT THIS SHIT OUT.

Bunch of people are engaged in "wishful thinking", hoping that the shooter fits some criteria of people THEY don't like. Earlier, someone once again thought it was Antifa. Just let the police do their work and wait until we find out more before you start pointing fingers at people who share a certain characteristic you deem undesirable. Some of y'all are being serious jackasses about this whole thing.
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@Zhukov

What we know at this point....

Shooter was a white male in his 30's who indiscriminately shot innocent people, including children.

I think that last part should be sufficient to satisfy the "criteria of people [we] don't like."

That stands regardless of his politics, religion, sexual orientation, favorite color, favorite football team, and if he put beans in chili.



What we SHOULD be discussing is the fact that he was able to hijack a postal vehicle. If it weren't for gun free zones, the mail carrier would have / should have shot the son of a bitch dead on the spot and still made his deliveries on time.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:54:04 PM EST
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Guy gets pulled over by two DPS officers on i20 for failure to use turn signal. He slow rolls his vehicle while firing a rifle out of the back window, hitting one DPS Officer. He speeds away shooting at other drivers between Midland and Odessa. He hijacks a postal vehicle and continues on until he rams a road block and one cop does a couple mag dumps into the postal van. 21 people injured (3 Leo's), 5 dead. Shooter white male, 30s, dead, hasn't been ID'd yet.
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Only the UK sources says "rifle".  No one else has said it. It maybe but, to repeat the UK bs is ridiculous.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:54:20 PM EST
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I’ll give you bonus points...both for the D-bag usage and for pointing out a valid point about involving yourself in an unknown situation.
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The douchbag in this case was firing from moving vehicles. When you are driving, your sightline is often limited. Would you have noticed a bullet piercing a vehicle 100, or even 50 yards ahead of you? Then again, if you did, how do you know the circumstances of what's going on? Our hypothetical shooter may be an undercover cop firing at a douchbag like this current douchbag.

Can I get bonus points for using the word douchbag 3 times in one post?
I’ll give you bonus points...both for the D-bag usage and for pointing out a valid point about involving yourself in an unknown situation.
Fuck u all if a live round comes my way on the Interstate.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:54:45 PM EST
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One of the injured victims was identified as 17-month-old Anderson Davis, who was struck by shrapnel in her face and chest.

Young Anderson was airlifted to Lubbock and is expected to survive, her mother said in a GoFundMe campaign to raise funds for medical expenses.

'Her vitals are good. She is being flown to Lubbock while we drive. Not getting to fly with her is beyond painful,' the mother wrote.
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The dead aren't even in the ground and their daughter hasn't even spent the night at the hospital yet, but they have a GoFundMe up?

Kharn
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:55:35 PM EST
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Only the UK sources says "rifle".  No one else has said it. It maybe but, to repeat the UK bs is ridiculous.
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DPS issued a press release specifically mentioning a rifle.

Here's the Facebook link to them mentioning a rifle...Link
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:57:15 PM EST
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The dead aren't even in the ground and their daughter hasn't even spent the night at the hospital yet, but they have a GoFundMe up?

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One of the injured victims was identified as 17-month-old Anderson Davis, who was struck by shrapnel in her face and chest.

Young Anderson was airlifted to Lubbock and is expected to survive, her mother said in a GoFundMe campaign to raise funds for medical expenses.

'Her vitals are good. She is being flown to Lubbock while we drive. Not getting to fly with her is beyond painful,' the mother wrote.
The dead aren't even in the ground and their daughter hasn't even spent the night at the hospital yet, but they have a GoFundMe up?

Kharn
Incorrect.

Someone who claims "i am not the baby’s mom, but I know the family!" has a GoFundMe setup and has raised $84k so far.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:58:37 PM EST
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Guy gets pulled over by two DPS officers on i20 for failure to use turn signal. He slow rolls his vehicle while firing a rifle out of the back window, hitting one DPS Officer. He speeds away shooting at other drivers between Midland and Odessa. He hijacks a postal vehicle and continues on until he rams a road block and one cop does a couple mag dumps into the postal van. 21 people injured (3 Leo's), 5 dead. Shooter white male, 30s, dead, hasn't been ID'd yet.
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Is this correct? I thought it was only one dead.

Link Posted: 8/31/2019 9:58:41 PM EST
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If you worked with the FBI in the past then you know that assistance to local and state LE when requested is one of the seven core missions on the FBI. The Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012 permits the U.S. attorney general—at the request of appropriate state or local law enforcement personnel—to provide federal assistance during active shooter incidents and mass killings (defined by the law as three or more people) in public places. The attorney general delegated this responsibility to the FBI.

There are things the FBI does well and things they don’t. One of those things the FBI does very well is crime scene processing. Another is  bringing in large numbers of trained personnel on short notice.

No matter how good the Midland, Odessa and DPS teams are, this incident involves multiple crime scenes over a large area. If you have worked crime scenes you know working them properly is a lot of work. Many hands make light work.

Also it’s not just the postal  truck, there are federal murder statutes The murder of a postal employee (or any federal employee) in the course of their employment is a federal crime under 18 USC 1114.
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Found one!
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:00:24 PM EST
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Jesse Pinkman?
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Wrong.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:02:29 PM EST
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Stepped away for a bit.

What was up with the second chase and shots heard and announced by some one here??
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:02:59 PM EST
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I’m not buying the guy had a rifle. How can someone drive and shoot behind them or be agile while driving with a rifle?  Wouldn’t a handgun be easier to deal with one handed?  Also, this guy would have been driving around with a rifle on the front seat ready to go?
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:03:10 PM EST
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The FBI's job is to cover up evidence ( at the higher levels ).  Field agents just obey orders.  The FBI has been infiltrated at the highest State and Local levels.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:03:11 PM EST
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Wrong.
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Well it seems you have inside info. So either don’t bring it up for Persec or spill it!

Edit: FYI meant in a kidding manner
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:04:20 PM EST
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I’m not buying the guy had a rifle. How can someone drive and shoot behind them or be agile while driving with a rifle?  Wouldn’t a handgun be easier to deal with one handed?  Also, this guy would have been driving around with a rifle on the front seat ready to go?
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If only there was a device designed to make it easier for a person to fire a rifle (or large pistol) one handed.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:05:37 PM EST
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I'm not buying the guy had a rifle. How can someone drive and shoot behind them or be agile while driving with a rifle?  Wouldn't a handgun be easier to deal with one handed?  Also, this guy would have been driving around with a rifle on the front seat ready to go?
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You're right.

Finally we get the guy who has found the flaw in the story. The guy who sees what none of the rest of us can see.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:07:40 PM EST
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If only there was a device designed to make it easier for a person to fire a rifle (or large pistol) one handed.
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I’m not buying the guy had a rifle. How can someone drive and shoot behind them or be agile while driving with a rifle?  Wouldn’t a handgun be easier to deal with one handed?  Also, this guy would have been driving around with a rifle on the front seat ready to go?
If only there was a device designed to make it easier for a person to fire a rifle (or large pistol) one handed.
Hope that’s not the case here.

Wasn’t the truck a Tacoma? Then if an ar15 with pistol brace and white male we have someone here on this site :(

This person was evil. I do hope the evil is from another identified group and not from within.  Better if we don’t have evil in the word.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:10:44 PM EST
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Y'ALL CUT THIS SHIT OUT.

Bunch of people are engaged in "wishful thinking", hoping that the shooter fits some criteria of people THEY don't like. Earlier, someone once again thought it was Antifa. Just let the police do their work and wait until we find out more before you start pointing fingers at people who share a certain characteristic you deem undesirable. Some of y'all are being serious jackasses about this whole thing.
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Shooter was probably some or all of the following:

1) Came from broken family
2) "Educated" in public schools
3) On some type of drug
4) Atheist

ALL of these are products of liberalism.  Yet they want to blame guns and gun owners.  Screw them and screw their system.
Y'ALL CUT THIS SHIT OUT.

Bunch of people are engaged in "wishful thinking", hoping that the shooter fits some criteria of people THEY don't like. Earlier, someone once again thought it was Antifa. Just let the police do their work and wait until we find out more before you start pointing fingers at people who share a certain characteristic you deem undesirable. Some of y'all are being serious jackasses about this whole thing.
My other favorite are the people that have a conspiracy ready for EVERY possible situation.

Situation A:
Shooter's info is not immediately released....
"I see they're taking their time to make sure all of his info is scrubbed off the internet...how convenient."

Situation B:
Shooter's info is leaked quickly...
"Wow, how convenient the shooter's info is immediately leaked and it fits the narrative. Can we say patsy/false flag?"

Like no matter what, there is ALWAYS a conspiracy.
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