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Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:12:00 PM EST
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@Zhukov

What we know at this point....

Shooter was a white male in his 30's who indiscriminately shot innocent people, including children.

I think that last part should be sufficient to satisfy the "criteria of people [we] don't like."

That stands regardless of his politics, religion, sexual orientation, favorite color, favorite football team, and if he put beans in chili.



What we SHOULD be discussing is the fact that he was able to hijack a postal vehicle. If it weren't for gun free zones, the mail carrier would have / should have shot the son of a bitch dead on the spot and still made his deliveries on time.
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Kid was apparently hit by debris not bullets.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:12:04 PM EST
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@Zhukov

What we know at this point....

Shooter was a white male in his 30's who indiscriminately shot innocent people, including children.

I think that last part should be sufficient to satisfy the "criteria of people [we] don't like."

That stands regardless of his politics, religion, sexual orientation, favorite color, favorite football team, and if he put beans in chili.



What we SHOULD be discussing is the fact that he was able to hijack a postal vehicle. If it weren't for gun free zones, the mail carrier would have / should have shot the son of a bitch dead on the spot and still made his deliveries on time.
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Y'ALL CUT THIS SHIT OUT.

Bunch of people are engaged in "wishful thinking", hoping that the shooter fits some criteria of people THEY don't like. Earlier, someone once again thought it was Antifa. Just let the police do their work and wait until we find out more before you start pointing fingers at people who share a certain characteristic you deem undesirable. Some of y'all are being serious jackasses about this whole thing.
@Zhukov

What we know at this point....

Shooter was a white male in his 30's who indiscriminately shot innocent people, including children.

I think that last part should be sufficient to satisfy the "criteria of people [we] don't like."

That stands regardless of his politics, religion, sexual orientation, favorite color, favorite football team, and if he put beans in chili.



What we SHOULD be discussing is the fact that he was able to hijack a postal vehicle. If it weren't for gun free zones, the mail carrier would have / should have shot the son of a bitch dead on the spot and still made his deliveries on time.
Place your faith in the Govt.

FFS.

I know my postal carrier. She shouldn't have any access to a weapon unless she get's some training from me.

It's becoming more apparent to me that rifle training is our most undeveloped skill with youngsters.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:12:39 PM EST
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And it didn't catch fire? wow I would have thought there would have been flames with that.
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The guy who filmed one of the videos of the cops taking the suspect out just said the cops threw a flash bang into the back of the postal vehicle.
And it didn't catch fire? wow I would have thought there would have been flames with that.
Lot of modern 'bangers don't burn.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:13:39 PM EST
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Where did you see that?
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ODESSA, Texas (AP/Gray News) – At least five people were dead in West Texas after a man who was stopped by state troopers when his vehicle failed to signal a left turn opened fire and fled, shooting more than 20 people before he was killed by officers outside a movie theater, authorities said Saturday. Three law enforcement officers were among the injured.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:14:39 PM EST
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Place your faith in the Govt.

FFS.

I know my postal carrier. She shouldn't have any access to a weapon unless she get's some training from me.

It's becoming more apparent to me that rifle training is our most undeveloped skill with youngsters.
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Y'ALL CUT THIS SHIT OUT.

Bunch of people are engaged in "wishful thinking", hoping that the shooter fits some criteria of people THEY don't like. Earlier, someone once again thought it was Antifa. Just let the police do their work and wait until we find out more before you start pointing fingers at people who share a certain characteristic you deem undesirable. Some of y'all are being serious jackasses about this whole thing.
@Zhukov

What we know at this point....

Shooter was a white male in his 30's who indiscriminately shot innocent people, including children.

I think that last part should be sufficient to satisfy the "criteria of people [we] don't like."

That stands regardless of his politics, religion, sexual orientation, favorite color, favorite football team, and if he put beans in chili.



What we SHOULD be discussing is the fact that he was able to hijack a postal vehicle. If it weren't for gun free zones, the mail carrier would have / should have shot the son of a bitch dead on the spot and still made his deliveries on time.
Place your faith in the Govt.

FFS.

I know my postal carrier. She shouldn't have any access to a weapon unless she get's some training from me.

It's becoming more apparent to me that rifle training is our most undeveloped skill with youngsters.
My postal carrier is probably a member here. He's a retired Navy Chief, an avid shooter, and a reloader.

My grandfather, who served as an Army captain in 82nd Airborne in WWII, spent 4 decades as a mail carrier.

There are a lot of good men and woman in the USPS.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:15:24 PM EST
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Hope that's not the case here.

Wasn't the truck a Tacoma? Then if an ar15 with pistol brace and white male we have someone here on this site :(

This person was evil. I do hope the evil is from another identified group and not from within.  Better if we don't have evil in the word.
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Texas Department of Public Safety
Today at approximately 3:13 p.m. (CST), Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) Troopers attempted to conduct a traffic stop on a gold passenger vehicle on Interstate 20 westbound near mile marker 131. Prior to the vehicle coming to a complete stop, the male driver (and only occupant in the vehicle) pointed a rifle toward the rear window of his car and fired several shots toward the DPS patrol unit. The patrol unit was occupied by two Troopers, and one was hit by the gunfire. The suspect fled the scene and continued shooting innocent people, including a Midland police officer and an Odessa police officer.

The Trooper is in serious but stable condition, and the two other officers are in stable condition at a local hospital.

DPS initially provided and will continue to provide resources and support for this incident, including Troopers, Special Agents, Texas Rangers, multiple aircraft and our Major Crime Scene Unit.

This is an ongoing investigation, and no additional information will be released by DPS at this time. For information on victims of this shooting and any other questions, we would refer you to the Odessa Police Department.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:17:10 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:18:23 PM EST
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Found one!
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If you worked with the FBI in the past then you know that assistance to local and state LE when requested is one of the seven core missions on the FBI. The Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012 permits the U.S. attorney general—at the request of appropriate state or local law enforcement personnel—to provide federal assistance during active shooter incidents and mass killings (defined by the law as three or more people) in public places. The attorney general delegated this responsibility to the FBI.

There are things the FBI does well and things they don’t. One of those things the FBI does very well is crime scene processing. Another is  bringing in large numbers of trained personnel on short notice.

No matter how good the Midland, Odessa and DPS teams are, this incident involves multiple crime scenes over a large area. If you have worked crime scenes you know working them properly is a lot of work. Many hands make light work.

Also it’s not just the postal  truck, there are federal murder statutes The murder of a postal employee (or any federal employee) in the course of their employment is a federal crime under 18 USC 1114.
Found one!
Everything he said is correct. ANY experienced LE knows this. They can also bring in gear most state and local agencies simply can't afford.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:19:04 PM EST
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Here I thought all hope was lost for Austin. Looks like there is hope.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:20:42 PM EST
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This guy ain't wrong.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:21:34 PM EST
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Shooter was probably some or all of the following:

1) Came from broken family
2) "Educated" in public schools
3) On some type of drug
4) Atheist

ALL of these are products of liberalism.  Yet they want to blame guns and gun owners.  Screw them and screw their system.
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I disagree with  #4.  I have been an athiest all my life but my beliefs are all Judeo Christian. I just don't believe in God or a supreme being.

I will not deny  the majority of athiest seem to be assholes, EG;   suing about crosses, prayers at games the pledge of alliegence etc.

Just know that not every athiest is a A Hole
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:23:43 PM EST
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Rampage triggered by a traffic stop, just like how Benghazi was rampage triggered by a youtube video.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:24:19 PM EST
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Does he want to be President?
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:25:42 PM EST
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Pedo.
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Wow.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:25:44 PM EST
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I'm not much on kissing the rear-ends of single moms, but I have to say that this guy's claim that they should be able to carry a firearm without permission from the state is awful interesting.

We do need Constitutional Carry. We'd lose a ton of gun stores that rely on that money, but ...
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:27:51 PM EST
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WOW.

I spend the day cleaning, wood filling, sanding and painting my kitchen cabinets and all this shit is happening right around my neighborhood!!

My  nephew  Is on the OPD police force and I didn’t even get a call.

Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:28:06 PM EST
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Thankfully there are still plenty of good, honest, intelligent men who respect God and our Constitution and the people's right and need of armed defense.

We need more like him in government. Lots more.

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Does he want to be President?
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He's what we need.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:28:19 PM EST
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I haven't heard yet, but was there a postal employee in the USPS van?  The story is it was hijacked.  I'm not hearing if the employee was one of the victims, since this asshole was shooting everyone else.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:28:25 PM EST
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I’m not buying the guy had a rifle. How can someone drive and shoot behind them or be agile while driving with a rifle?  Wouldn’t a handgun be easier to deal with one handed?  Also, this guy would have been driving around with a rifle on the front seat ready to go?
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What if it was an AR pistol with brace, actually worn AS a brace? Then he could do everything you just said. Especially if this was his plan all along...
Edit - beat like a red headed stepchild.

Still something stinks
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:29:11 PM EST
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I'm betting this guy heard about the zero tolerance plan of the local police, loaded a weapon and went about breaking traffic laws until he got lit up.

He is known to law enforcement so I'm guessing he instigated it.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:30:17 PM EST
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This guy ain't wrong.
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Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:31:11 PM EST
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This guy ain't wrong.
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No he's not.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:31:50 PM EST
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I haven't heard yet, but was their a postal employee in the USPS van?  The story is it was hijacked.  I'm not hearing if the employee was one of the victims, since this asshole was shooting everyone else.
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USPS Employee was shot.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:32:49 PM EST
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The one eyed  pirate from Houston could take a lesson from this guy.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:34:15 PM EST
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Thankfully there are still plenty of good, honest, intelligent men who respect God and our Constitution and the people's right and need of armed defense.

We need more like him in government. Lots more.
(FVMC input: or we just need less government and more people like him)

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He's what we need.
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Thankfully there are still plenty of good, honest, intelligent men who respect God and our Constitution and the people's right and need of armed defense.

We need more like him in government. Lots more.
(FVMC input: or we just need less government and more people like him)

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Does he want to be President?
+1

He's what we need.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:35:09 PM EST
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Wow!!! Glad to see not all of Austin is commies. I completely agree with his statement.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:35:36 PM EST
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Lot of modern 'bangers don't burn.
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I didn't know that.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:35:55 PM EST
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I'm not much on kissing the rear-ends of single moms, but I have to say that this guy's claim that they should be able to carry a firearm without permission from the state is awful interesting.

We do need Constitutional Carry. We'd lose a ton of gun stores that rely on that money, but ...
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I'm not much on kissing the rear-ends of single moms, but I have to say that this guy's claim that they should be able to carry a firearm without permission from the state is awful interesting.

We do need Constitutional Carry. We'd lose a ton of gun stores that rely on that money, but ...
Same.% would likely still get ltc for its out of state benefits
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:37:30 PM EST
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Does he want to be President?
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He should be!
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:37:56 PM EST
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I have a friend in midland that says there's been an ongoing chase on I20 for about 20 min.  Local news says it's a 2nd suspect
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My local news here in Maine said the same. Story has since been updated and that part removed.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:37:57 PM EST
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Here I thought all hope was lost for Austin. Looks like there is hope.
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Here I thought all hope was lost for Austin. Looks like there is hope.
He votes IN Austin....he is the rep for they Tyler area (not near Austin)
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:38:19 PM EST
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WOW.

I spend the day cleaning, wood filling, sanding and painting my kitchen cabinets and all this shit is happening right around my neighborhood!!

My  nephew  Is on the OPD police force and I didn’t even get a call.

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I'm guessing he's been too busy. Have you got word from him yet?
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:39:43 PM EST
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It's going to be an AR or AK or some other targeted semi auto.
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rifle used
It's going to be an AR or AK or some other targeted semi auto.
With targeted accessories.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:40:24 PM EST
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Incorrect.

Someone who claims "i am not the baby's mom, but I know the family!" has a GoFundMe setup and has raised $84k so far.
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I do hope the person is legit and the family actually sees the money.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:40:28 PM EST
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Wow.
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Pedo.
Wow.
He might have been expecting a warrant....
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:43:41 PM EST
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So a traffic stop over a turn signal is was started this all?

Huh?!?
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:45:36 PM EST
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So a traffic stop over a turn signal is was started this all?

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That was their PC anywho. If the tango was known to local law enforcement, I'm guessing the DPS guys were 'fishing'.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:45:50 PM EST
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So a traffic stop over a turn signal is was started this all?

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At this point in time, looks like it.  At least until more of the motive is released.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:46:24 PM EST
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So a traffic stop over a turn signal is was started this all?

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I'm willing to bet that the shooter had some criminal activity going on before the stop.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:46:48 PM EST
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In.

This site has been more accurate and timely than the MSM for theast 5-6 years I can think of.
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This guy ain't wrong.
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Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:49:17 PM EST
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Still no ID on the shooter or weapon.  Unreal.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:51:31 PM EST
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Still no ID on the shooter or weapon.  Unreal.
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The police have not released the info and another presser isn't going to happen until tomorrow.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:51:53 PM EST
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Can't.

GD already loses their shit over cargo pockets. Imagine the loss of their collective shit over a militarized police chopper.
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Get a helo up and run him down and light him up from the air.
Can't.

GD already loses their shit over cargo pockets. Imagine the loss of their collective shit over a militarized police chopper.
They can , will, and have.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:52:09 PM EST
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Still no ID on the shooter or weapon.  Unreal.
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Must not fit the agenda they want..... Yet.

But they'll find a way to make it match.
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I didn't know that.
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Lot of modern 'bangers don't burn.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, agencies have been moving away from the "hot" ones after some lawsuits (especially one where a young child was burned).
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:53:18 PM EST
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I'm not much on kissing the rear-ends of single moms, but I have to say that this guy's claim that they should be able to carry a firearm without permission from the state is awful interesting.

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How would that effect gun stores?  Unless you have mandatory classes in your state that has to go through a store?
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:54:16 PM EST
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Well it seems you have inside info. So either don’t bring it up for Persec or spill it!

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I have... you're just not picking it up.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:55:05 PM EST
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Still no ID on the shooter or weapon.  Unreal.
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They're putting the finishing touches on "his" manifesto.
Link Posted: 8/31/2019 10:55:37 PM EST
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@Zhukov

What we know at this point....

Shooter was a white male in his 30's who indiscriminately shot innocent people, including children.

I think that last part should be sufficient to satisfy the "criteria of people [we] don't like."

That stands regardless of his politics, religion, sexual orientation, favorite color, favorite football team, and if he put beans in chili.



What we SHOULD be discussing is the fact that he was able to hijack a postal vehicle. If it weren't for gun free zones, the mail carrier would have / should have shot the son of a bitch dead on the spot and still made his deliveries on time.
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So William Munny is the shooter?
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