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Posted: 10/28/2019 6:05:02 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:07:31 AM EST
[#1]
Not small arms.
edit: this is pretty normal training stuff for SWAT teams
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:08:28 AM EST
[#2]
Yes. Yes. No. Yes!

ETA; order
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:09:01 AM EST
[#3]
First post fail. Of course it should be protected. Its just angry playdoh.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:18:18 AM EST
[#4]
right up there with field artillery
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:20:07 AM EST
[#5]
All armaments are considered arms under the 2A.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:22:34 AM EST
[#6]
Yes.

I'm not real comfortable with it, but that's liberty.  And just because I'm not comfortable with it doesn't mean that those who are should not be able to buy it, it just means that I wouldn't.  Because that's how rights and liberty work.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:23:25 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:24:51 AM EST
[#8]
Privately owned battleships were ok back then, so why not?
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:28:36 AM EST
[#9]
I have a natural right to wage war against tyranny and oppressors.  The Second keeps the government from denying me access to the tools of war.

It’s another example of the words being perfect, but the men who have the power are flawed.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:30:43 AM EST
[#10]
"All the terrible implements of the soldier"

Kharn
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:46:58 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:47:22 AM EST
[#12]
No restrictions. No tax stamps. Don't like it, got hurt feelings boo hoo, go feel sad somewhere else.

I'm surprised how many people pissed backward on this, there's a whole lot of brainwashed mothers out there.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:48:51 AM EST
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Is the cop in the still picture of the video pointing his gun at the cop in fronts head?
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:57:22 AM EST
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That is your ignorant interpretation. Find a court that agrees with you. Explosives are not arms.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 6:58:50 AM EST
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No, he should be pointing it at the door knob...which is likely near the breaches head. The #2 man should have all his focus on the door knob, if it starts to turn then he stitches the door in a military setting. No idea what LE would do...
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:00:02 AM EST
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That is your ignorant interpretation. Find a court that agrees with you. Explosives are not arms.
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That is your ignorant interpretation. Find a court that agrees with you. Explosives are not arms.
what the fuck kind of commie bullshit is this

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Not small arms.
"the right of the people to keep and bear small Arms, shall not be infringed"

well I'll be danged. My bad.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:03:11 AM EST
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People owned crew served weapons back then
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:03:43 AM EST
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Not small arms.
edit: this is pretty normal training stuff for SWAT teams
People owned crew served weapons back then
People owned warships too.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:04:27 AM EST
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what the fuck kind of commie bullshit is this

"the right of the people to keep and bear small Arms, shall not be infringed"

well I'll be danged. My bad.
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That is your ignorant interpretation. Find a court that agrees with you. Explosives are not arms.
what the fuck kind of commie bullshit is this

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Not small arms.
"the right of the people to keep and bear small Arms, shall not be infringed"

well I'll be danged. My bad.
The worst kind, the ones who think they're on "our side".
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:04:42 AM EST
[#20]
Yes.

I bought some Hatton rounds and a breaching choke, but obviously I need shape charges from Amazon Prime
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:05:19 AM EST
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what the fuck kind of commie bullshit is this
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That is your ignorant interpretation. Find a court that agrees with you. Explosives are not arms.
what the fuck kind of commie bullshit is this
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:10:17 AM EST
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That is your ignorant interpretation. Find a court that agrees with you. Explostives are not arms.
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All armaments are considered arms under the 2A.
That is your ignorant interpretation. Find a court that agrees with you. Explostives are not arms.
what do you think they charged their muskets with?
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:12:52 AM EST
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Has any police department really blown a hole in a wall? Is this something that you can really safely do if you aren't high speedy commando types with the time and money to practice all the time ?
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I've seen cops explosively breach CONUS.  Mostly it's doors and locks which can be accomplished through mechanical breaches but theres a lot of other situations too.   I went to a breacher course with the Colorado SWAT and they were telling me about an explosive roof breach they did into the basement of an armed nutcase who had barricaded himself in and was holding his wife hostage.  Wife went into the bathroom, then boom, down comes part of the roof and a couple highly motivated individuals.

In combat I breached quite a bit, both deliberately and emergency.

It doesn't take much training to learn, but it does take a lot of training to correctly understand the when, where, and how much.

This was another course I went to a few years ago, me holding the blanket.

Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:13:18 AM EST
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Not small arms.
edit: this is pretty normal training stuff for SWAT teams
People owned crew served weapons back then
People owned warships too.
People owned crew served weapons mounted on warships too
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:14:11 AM EST
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Not many individuals.

It was more like Mr Dillon owning the expensive stuff he shows in his videos today.
It was more a case of  a small town to have communal ownership of a single small artillery field piece.
Your occasional wealthy guy could afford to buy and equip a ship, which was brought up earlier in the thread . Equipping those ships was nowhere near the level of a Mon O' War, either.

It was nowhere near as common for private citizens to own warships or artillery as is being inferred here.

I don't see where this argument has anything to do with justifying people owning breaching charges today
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:16:52 AM EST
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Not many individuals.

It was more like Mr Dillon owning the expensive stuff he shows in his videos today.
It was more a case of  a small town to have communal ownership of a single small artillery field piece.
Your occasional wealthy guy could afford to buy and equip a ship, which was brought up earlier in the thread . Equipping those ships was nowhere near the level of a Mon O' War, either.

It was nowhere near as common for private citizens to own warships or artillery as is being inferred here.

I don't see where this argument has anything to do with justifying people owning breaching charges today
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People owned crew served weapons back then
Not many individuals.

It was more like Mr Dillon owning the expensive stuff he shows in his videos today.
It was more a case of  a small town to have communal ownership of a single small artillery field piece.
Your occasional wealthy guy could afford to buy and equip a ship, which was brought up earlier in the thread . Equipping those ships was nowhere near the level of a Mon O' War, either.

It was nowhere near as common for private citizens to own warships or artillery as is being inferred here.

I don't see where this argument has anything to do with justifying people owning breaching charges today
So your arguments that only rich people should be allowed to own breaching charges?

ok
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:18:22 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:19:49 AM EST
[#28]
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Not many individuals.

It was more like Mr Dillon owning the expensive stuff he shows in his videos today.
It was more a case of  a small town to have communal ownership of a single small artillery field piece.
Your occasional wealthy guy could afford to buy and equip a ship, which was brought up earlier in the thread . Equipping those ships was nowhere near the level of a Mon O' War, either.

It was nowhere near as common for private citizens to own warships or artillery as is being inferred here.

I don't see where this argument has anything to do with justifying people owning breaching charges today
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People owned crew served weapons back then
Not many individuals.

It was more like Mr Dillon owning the expensive stuff he shows in his videos today.
It was more a case of  a small town to have communal ownership of a single small artillery field piece.
Your occasional wealthy guy could afford to buy and equip a ship, which was brought up earlier in the thread . Equipping those ships was nowhere near the level of a Mon O' War, either.

It was nowhere near as common for private citizens to own warships or artillery as is being inferred here.

I don't see where this argument has anything to do with justifying people owning breaching charges today
"the right of a small number of individuals to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

well I'll be darned again, it's right there in the Cuntstitution
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:19:52 AM EST
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Orlando PD used explosive breaching charges at Pulse nightclub.  Dallas PD used them on the robot during their active shooter in 2016.

I’ve heard of them being used a few other times during search warrants on barricaded buildings.  It’s very rare.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:19:54 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:20:54 AM EST
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So your arguments that only rich people should be allowed to own breaching charges?

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No. I'm pointing out to all of the people arguing that some rich guy providing a privateer to the Revolutionary cause or a town being able to collectively purchase and use a single small field piece really means that private ownership of these things wasn't as common as they seem to think.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:22:06 AM EST
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No. I'm pointing out to all of the people arguing that private ownership of these things wasn't as common as they seem to think.
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So your arguments that only rich people should be allowed to own breaching charges?

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No. I'm pointing out to all of the people arguing that private ownership of these things wasn't as common as they seem to think.
So your point is they owned them but only if they could afford them which wasn’t many people.

Got it!
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:22:27 AM EST
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No. I'm pointing out to all of the people arguing that private ownership of these things wasn't as common as they seem to think.
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So your arguments that only rich people should be allowed to own breaching charges?

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No. I'm pointing out to all of the people arguing that private ownership of these things wasn't as common as they seem to think.
"the right of the people to keep and bear only commonly owned Arms, shall not be infringed"
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:25:06 AM EST
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Tell us what Jamal in the section 8 apartment complex is likely to do with a breaching charge.
Anything constructive? Good? Self-defensive? Probably NOT.

Look, if the government wants to make these things available with the same restrictions as there are for dynamite, then go for it.
Certainly not any acceptable reason for these things to be readily available to the general public.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:27:26 AM EST
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Tell us what Jamal in the section 8 apartment complex is likely to do with a breaching charge.
Anything constructive? Good? Self-defensive? Probably NOT.

Look, if the government wants to make these things available with the same restrictions as there are for dynamite, then go for it.
Certainly not any acceptable reason for these things to be readily available to the general public.
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"the right of the people to keep and bear only commonly owned Arms, shall not be infringed"
Tell us what Jamal in the section 8 apartment complex is likely to do with a breaching charge.
Anything constructive? Good? Self-defensive? Probably NOT.

Look, if the government wants to make these things available with the same restrictions as there are for dynamite, then go for it.
Certainly not any acceptable reason for these things to be readily available to the general public.
Never go full New York values

wait....are you talking about AR-15s or breaching charges now?

Jammal in section 8 housing can do whatever he damn well wants because he's a free man.  If he wants to cut his old car in half with a breaching charge, rock in roll. If he wants to break into his neighbors house, he goes to jail.  BTW, you can use other stuff to break into houses.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:29:20 AM EST
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"the right of the people to keep and bear only commonly owned Arms, shall not be infringed"
Tell us what Jamal in the section 8 apartment complex is likely to do with a breaching charge.
Anything constructive? Good? Self-defensive? Probably NOT.
"the right of the people (except black people) to keep and bear Arms, as long as they're for good, constructive or self-defense purposes, shall not be infringed"
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:29:47 AM EST
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2nd Amendment - Yes.

Hazardous materials storage requirements - also yes.

Need to make sure a house fire doesn't set off your breaching charge collection/fort.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:30:24 AM EST
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Keep it up.
You keep failing
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:30:36 AM EST
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Ask the survivors from pulse night club how they feel about explosive breaching.  Probably saved a bunch of them from joining the dead.

Much like shotgun breaching, when done properly, it is pretty darn safe.  It just looks and sounds ugly, so the general population thinks it is evil.

To answer your question about it being available to the public.  I would have to say no.  Look at the dumb shit that went on, and still goes on, with tannerite......
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:31:35 AM EST
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Tell us what Jamal in the section 8 apartment complex is likely to do with a breaching charge.
Anything constructive? Good? Self-defensive? Probably NOT.


Look, if the government wants to make these things available with the same restrictions as there are for dynamite, then go for it.
Certainly not any acceptable reason for these things to be readily available to the general public.
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"the right of the people to keep and bear only commonly owned Arms, shall not be infringed"
Tell us what Jamal in the section 8 apartment complex is likely to do with a breaching charge.
Anything constructive? Good? Self-defensive? Probably NOT.


Look, if the government wants to make these things available with the same restrictions as there are for dynamite, then go for it.
Certainly not any acceptable reason for these things to be readily available to the general public.
Thank you for demonstrating how the left thinks about us.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:32:33 AM EST
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Keep it up.
You keep failing
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"the right of the people (except black people) to keep and bear Arms, as long as they're for good, constructive or self-defense purposes, shall not be infringed"
Keep it up.
You keep failing
I will never stop pointing out the idiocy of people who want our freedom and natural rights restricted.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:33:55 AM EST
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Are you Jamal in the section 8 apartment?
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:35:22 AM EST
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I will never stop pointing out the idiocy of people who want our freedom and natural rights restricted.
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In a society there are naturally restrictions on individual liberties.
You don't get to do anything you want to do.
If you want maximum individual liberty, find an empty island in the South pacific and live there by yourself so that no one will ever disagree with you.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:35:38 AM EST
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Thank you for demonstrating how the left thinks about us.
Are you Jamal in the section 8 apartment?
Don't Red Flag him bro
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:35:45 AM EST
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Thank you for demonstrating how the left thinks about us.
Are you Jamal in the section 8 apartment?
No, I’m “that lowly commoner that can’t be trusted with these weapons of war.” Apparently, so is Jamal.

What you’re not realizing is, so are you.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:35:46 AM EST
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Everything is great until retards start blowing their arms off. I say no just because people are too stupid. Give us same day suppressors and legalize sbr without stamps then start talking goofy shit like explosives.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:37:14 AM EST
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what faggots voted no?
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:37:22 AM EST
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I've seen cops explosively breach CONUS.  Mostly it's doors and locks which can be accomplished through mechanical breaches but theres a lot of other situations too.   I went to a breacher course with the Colorado SWAT and they were telling me about an explosive roof breach they did into the basement of an armed nutcase who had barricaded himself in and was holding his wife hostage.  Wife went into the bathroom, then boom, down comes part of the roof and a couple highly motivated individuals.

In combat I breached quite a bit, both deliberately and emergency.

It doesn't take much training to learn, but it does take a lot of training to correctly understand the when, where, and how much.

This was another course I went to a few years ago, me holding the blanket.

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You need to steal a whole bunch of stuff from work. I'll buy a shitload of beer, then we'll drink the beer and blow stuff up
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:38:37 AM EST
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No, I’m “that lowly commoner that can’t be trusted with these weapons of war.” Apparently, so is Jamal.

What you’re not realizing is, so are you.
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I have no need to possess explosive breaching charges. Neither do you or anyone else ranting in the thread that anyone should be able to walk into their local Lowes and buy the stuff over the counter with no restrictions.
Link Posted: 10/28/2019 7:40:24 AM EST
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Tell us what Jamal in the section 8 apartment complex is likely to do with a breaching charge.
Anything constructive? Good? Self-defensive? Probably NOT.

Look, if the government wants to make these things available with the same restrictions as there are for dynamite, then go for it.
Certainly not any acceptable reason for these things to be readily available to the general public.
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"the right of the people to keep and bear only commonly owned Arms, shall not be infringed"
Tell us what Jamal in the section 8 apartment complex is likely to do with a breaching charge.
Anything constructive? Good? Self-defensive? Probably NOT.

Look, if the government wants to make these things available with the same restrictions as there are for dynamite, then go for it.
Certainly not any acceptable reason for these things to be readily available to the general public.
racist much?
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