User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:40:37 AM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
In a society there are naturally restrictions on individual liberties. You don't get to do anything you want to do. If you want maximum individual liberty, find an empty island in the South pacific and live there by yourself so that no one will ever disagree with you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
I will never stop pointing out the idiocy of people who want our freedom and natural rights restricted. You don't get to do anything you want to do. If you want maximum individual liberty, find an empty island in the South pacific and live there by yourself so that no one will ever disagree with you. Quoted:
I have no need to possess explosive breaching charges. Neither do you or anyone else ranting in the thread that anyone should be able to walk into their local Lowes and buy the stuff over the counter with no restrictions. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:40:50 AM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I have no need to possess explosive breaching charges. Neither do you or anyone else ranting in the thread that anyone should be able to walk into their local Lowes and buy the stuff over the counter with no restrictions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
No, I’m “that lowly commoner that can’t be trusted with these weapons of war.” Apparently, so is Jamal. What you’re not realizing is, so are you. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:41:14 AM EST
[#3]
I think the infringements, rules, and regulations have that covered: You can't have it, only "authorities" can.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:41:49 AM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People owned warships too. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:42:50 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
racist much? You guys internalize your own desire to have this stuff and in your world view you apparently see only you or good guys possessing it I look at the reality of who would actually be in the ownership pool if it was unregulated. I can just imagine what home invasion robberies would look like if this stuff was available OTC |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:42:57 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
"All the terrible implements of the soldier" Kharn |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:43:17 AM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
People owned other people too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: People owned warships too. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:43:49 AM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There’s that dirty N word again, “need.” What does the left think you “need”? Furthermore, speak for yourself, you know what you need. Don’t presume that it does or should extend to others. Yeah, I didn't think so. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:44:38 AM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Realist. You guys internalize your own desire to have this stuff and in your world view you apparently see only you or good guys possessing it I look at the reality of who would actually be in the ownership pool if it was unregulated. I can just imagine what home invasion robberies would look like if this stuff was available OTC Freedom is freedom. I want every citizen who isn't in prison to be able to own whatever the fuck they want. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:45:27 AM EST
[#10]
To answer your question as to has a department actually done this, I saw it done on an episode of COPS
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:46:03 AM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is your ignorant interpretation. Find a court that agrees with you. Explosives are not arms. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:47:20 AM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
What's your need to blow a hole in someone's door or wall? Yeah, I didn't think so. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: There's that dirty N word again, "need." What does the left think you "need"? Furthermore, speak for yourself, you know what you need. Don't presume that it does or should extend to others. Yeah, I didn't think so. Why do you think the 2nd Amendment exists? What's the purpose of protecting an armed citizenry? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:48:50 AM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
What's your need to blow a hole in someone's door or wall? Yeah, I didn't think so. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: There’s that dirty N word again, “need.” What does the left think you “need”? Furthermore, speak for yourself, you know what you need. Don’t presume that it does or should extend to others. Yeah, I didn't think so. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:48:51 AM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
All armaments are considered arms under the 2A. The Second Amendment, as written, limits government. Period. The technology of the weapon does not matter. The limits on the government remain the same. Our Forefathers had just finished fighting a war for our freedom against a tyrannical government. They wanted to ensure that we the people would never be put in a bad position again. The statement "The Right of the People to Keep And Bear Arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED." Has one meaning ONLY. All gun laws are infringements. Taxation is theft. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:49:20 AM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy strawman. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:50:40 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Project much? Freedom is freedom. I want every citizen who isn't in prison to be able to own whatever the fuck they want. We can't lock bad guys up forever. The death penalty is a shrinking option for even the most heinous of crimes. Society is literally filled with people who shouldn't have access to "whatever the fuck they want". |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:52:32 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "the right of the people to keep and bear only commonly owned Arms, shall not be infringed" "The right of some people to keep and bear what the crown permits and does not rustle any jimmies shall not be fiddled with." |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:52:43 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Or do we just acknowledge what we like? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:54:30 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
You need to steal a whole bunch of stuff from work. I'll buy a shitload of beer, then we'll drink the beer and blow stuff up |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:54:34 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Or do we just acknowledge what we like? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Holy strawman.  Blacks are people and explosives are arms. Feels don't matter, and slavery was at odds with the Constitution itself from the beginning. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:54:44 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
People owned other people too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: People owned warships too. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:54:45 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what the fuck kind of commie bullshit is this  "the right of the people to keep and bear small Arms, shall not be infringed" well I'll be danged. My bad. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:55:04 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I have no need to possess explosive breaching charges. Neither do you or anyone else ranting in the thread that anyone should be able to walk into their local Lowes and buy the stuff over the counter with no restrictions. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:56:55 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Then your expectations are unrealistic We can't lock bad guys up forever. The death penalty is a shrinking option for even the most heinous of crimes. Society is literally filled with people who shouldn't have access to "whatever the fuck they want". Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Project much? Freedom is freedom. I want every citizen who isn't in prison to be able to own whatever the fuck they want. We can't lock bad guys up forever. The death penalty is a shrinking option for even the most heinous of crimes. Society is literally filled with people who shouldn't have access to "whatever the fuck they want". |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:57:06 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Last I read, it was the Bill of Rights. Not the bill of needs.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Last I read, it was the Bill of Rights. Not the bill of needs.... Oh my bad, says Mr Founder. Never mind what I said in my rebellious youth...…. Quoted:
When you swore to protect and defend the Constitution, were you just lying or were your fingers crossed? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:57:14 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
what do you think they charged their muskets with?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:57:23 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then your expectations are unrealistic We can't lock bad guys up forever. The death penalty is a shrinking option for even the most heinous of crimes. Society is literally filled with people who shouldn't have access to "whatever the fuck they want". |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:57:25 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
You have reading comprehension issues. I never mentioned small arms once. Explosives are not arms. They are explosives. You want to make IEDs then good luck. It is an issue you will never win no matter how you twist definitions in regards to the 2A. Calling people commies because they disagree with you won't win any points either. You're not going to bully me so save it for when you look in a mirror. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: what the fuck kind of commie bullshit is this "the right of the people to keep and bear small Arms, shall not be infringed" well I'll be danged. My bad. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:57:39 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
what faggots voted no? well if that doesn't seem a tad hypocritical............. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:57:48 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Not small arms. edit: this is pretty normal training stuff for SWAT teams it says "ARMS" and by 1790's definitions that would most definitely include breaching charges. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:58:06 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Then your expectations are unrealistic We can't lock bad guys up forever. The death penalty is a shrinking option for even the most heinous of crimes. Society is literally filled with people who shouldn't have access to "whatever the fuck they want". Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Project much? Freedom is freedom. I want every citizen who isn't in prison to be able to own whatever the fuck they want. We can't lock bad guys up forever. The death penalty is a shrinking option for even the most heinous of crimes. Society is literally filled with people who shouldn't have access to "whatever the fuck they want". 2. According to who? The same people who are scared of their own shadow and will give up everything just so they can pretend they're safer, when in reality they're ultimately making the world a more dangerous place for all of us. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:58:09 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So you are claiming they shoved IEDs down their barrels? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
what do you think they charged their muskets with? very tiny ones |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:58:24 AM EST
[#33]
Yes, how else will we get the donuts,
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:58:57 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is your ignorant interpretation. Find a court that agrees with you. Explosives are not arms. The ones that wrote it would disagree with you and the court. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:59:08 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The 2nd does not say "Small Arms" it says "ARMS" and by 1790's definitions that would most definitely include breaching charges. Explosives are not "arms".. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:59:36 AM EST
[#36]
How else will patriots storm for dwellings of tyrants?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 7:59:44 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Not small arms. edit: this is pretty normal training stuff for SWAT teams |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:00:00 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Not many individuals. It was more like Mr Dillon owning the expensive stuff he shows in his videos today. It was more a case of a small town to have communal ownership of a single small artillery field piece. Your occasional wealthy guy could afford to buy and equip a ship, which was brought up earlier in the thread . Equipping those ships was nowhere near the level of a Mon O' War, either. It was nowhere near as common for private citizens to own warships or artillery as is being inferred here. I don't see where this argument has anything to do with justifying people owning breaching charges today Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
People owned crew served weapons back then It was more like Mr Dillon owning the expensive stuff he shows in his videos today. It was more a case of a small town to have communal ownership of a single small artillery field piece. Your occasional wealthy guy could afford to buy and equip a ship, which was brought up earlier in the thread . Equipping those ships was nowhere near the level of a Mon O' War, either. It was nowhere near as common for private citizens to own warships or artillery as is being inferred here. I don't see where this argument has anything to do with justifying people owning breaching charges today |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:00:36 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You have reading comprehension issues. I never mentioned small arms once. Explosives are not arms. They are explosives. You want to make IEDs then good luck. It is an issue you will never win no matter how you twist definitions in regards to the 2A. Calling people commies because they disagree with you won't win any points either. You're not going to bully me so save it for when you look in a mirror. Can it be classified as an armament? An explosive would be covered by the 2nd Amendment. Because the Second Amendment does not apply to explosives. The Second Amendment is a limitation on government. The government shall make no law barring a free man from the use of any arms. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:00:44 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People owned crew served weapons mounted on warships too |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:00:50 AM EST
[#41]
Shocking disagreements here. Think I’ll finish my coffee.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:00:59 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
And the Founders loved to talk about periodically refreshing the Tree of Liberty...until they were in charge and a portion of the public decided to rebel against THEIR leadership. Oh my bad, says Mr Founder. Never mind what I said in my rebellious youth.... As I see it, the Constitution doesn't protect your right to privately own breaching charges. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Last I read, it was the Bill of Rights. Not the bill of needs.... Oh my bad, says Mr Founder. Never mind what I said in my rebellious youth.... Quoted:
When you swore to protect and defend the Constitution, were you just lying or were your fingers crossed? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:03:28 AM EST
[#43]
I've played my fair share of Rainbow Six so I'm basically a breaching expert
To answer your question, yes it should be protected. It never ceases to amaze me how many gun-grabbers we have on this site. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:03:36 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
And the Founders loved to talk about periodically refreshing the Tree of Liberty...until they were in charge and a portion of the public decided to rebel against THEIR leadership. Oh my bad, says Mr Founder. Never mind what I said in my rebellious youth...…. As I see it, the Constitution doesn't protect your right to privately own breaching charges. And, again, the 2nd Amendment does not apply to explosives or weapons. The 2nd Amendment limits government. Period. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:03:49 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Tell us what Jamal in the section 8 apartment complex is likely to do with a breaching charge. Anything constructive? Good? Self-defensive? Probably NOT. Look, if the government wants to make these things available with the same restrictions as there are for dynamite, then go for it. Certainly not any acceptable reason for these things to be readily available to the general public. the is no acceptable reason for Jamal as you say to own an AR15. An acceptable reason is the unwritten threat of don't become a tyrannical government and we wont use these things against you, or another would be dont invade America and we wont use this stuff against you. Both of those are acceptable arguments. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:07:32 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Realist. You guys internalize your own desire to have this stuff and in your world view you apparently see only you or good guys possessing it I look at the reality of who would actually be in the ownership pool if it was unregulated. I can just imagine what home invasion robberies would look like if this stuff was available OTC Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
racist much? You guys internalize your own desire to have this stuff and in your world view you apparently see only you or good guys possessing it I look at the reality of who would actually be in the ownership pool if it was unregulated. I can just imagine what home invasion robberies would look like if this stuff was available OTC Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither. ... He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither. Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither. Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:07:35 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
This issue has been discussed here previously. Explosives are not "arms".. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
The 2nd does not say "Small Arms" it says "ARMS" and by 1790's definitions that would most definitely include breaching charges. Explosives are not "arms".. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:07:44 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
You have reading comprehension issues. I never mentioned small arms once. Explosives are not arms. They are explosives. You want to make IEDs then good luck. It is an issue you will never win no matter how you twist definitions in regards to the 2A. Calling people commies because they disagree with you won't win any points either. You're not going to bully me so save it for when you look in a mirror. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: what the fuck kind of commie bullshit is this "the right of the people to keep and bear small Arms, shall not be infringed" well I'll be danged. My bad.
1. An Universal Etymological English Dictionary of 1775 defines arms as Manner of Weapns for Fighting, and Weapons as All Sorts of Warlike Instruments. Twisting definitions indeed.... 2. I don't call people commies because they disagree with me. I call them commies when they want to destroy our rights and liberty. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:09:28 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So you are claiming they shoved IEDs down their barrels? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
what do you think they charged their muskets with? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/28/2019 8:09:53 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I will never stop pointing out the idiocy of people who want our freedom and natural rights restricted. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
