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Posted: 6/1/2019 10:58:20 AM EST

I have a guy in the office, not really a stolen valor guy but he definitely wears camo outside of the office.

He is sorta autistic when it comes to military and history stuff. So I kinda just think he is a militaria buff and dont think much of it.

However when on the phone with customers and going over catalog numbers and sales numbers, its all military phonetic alphabet. There are times where I swear he is calling in air support or an artillery attack.

No one else in the office has issues speaking with customers and none of us need to rattle off sierra, foxtrot zulu all day, not sure why he does. I feel like this is confusing to customers, especially those that have no idea whiskey tango foxtrot he is talking about.

ETA....going to add the civilian vs military phonetic alphabet

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:01:46 AM EST

[#1]

Yankee Echo Sierra

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:01:50 AM EST

[#2]

I am glad your life is so good that you have time to worry about this.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:03:00 AM EST

[#3]

You do realize that the phonetic alphabet isn't only a military thing, right?

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:03:02 AM EST

[#4]

Lima Oscar Lima

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:03:04 AM EST

[#5]

Absolutely not.

Not professional enough.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:03:22 AM EST

[#6]

Yes, but he should drop for push-ups every time he does it.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:05:11 AM EST

[#7]

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Even the NATO phonetic alphabet? I am not talking about the civilian phonetic alphabet.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:05:12 AM EST

[#8]

They work, particularly for those of us who don't hear that well over telephone. I taught it to my Wife so she could more effective talk to on cell phones. Remember how horrible the audio quality was of those old Nokia's?

Don't sweat it.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:05:16 AM EST

[#9]

Lima Oscar Lima.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:05:18 AM EST

[#10]

whiskey tango foxtrot

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:05:41 AM EST

[#11]

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I have a guy in the office, not really a stolen valor guy but he definitely wears camo outside of the office.

He is sorta autistic when it comes to military and history stuff. So I kinda just think he is a militaria buff and dont think much of it.

However when on the phone with customers and going over catalog numbers and sales numbers, its all military phonetic alphabet. There are times where I swear he is calling in air support or an artillery attack.

No one else in the office has issues speaking with customers and none of us need to rattle off sierra, foxtrot zulu all day, not sure why he does. I feel like this is confusing to customers, especially those that have no idea whiskey tango foxtrot he is talking about.

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Because its the correct thing to do? Its a skill every man should have. I hate it when people try to say things like: "B, as is Babushka" , "C, as is Clarinet", now THAT sounds annoying. Just about everyone I know uses correct phonetic alphabet code; anything else is just plain ignorant.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:06:02 AM EST

[#12]

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You do realize that the phonetic alphabet isn't only a military thing, right?

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Was gonna say this. When on the phone with part numbers or serial numbers the pronunciation of some letters sound too much alike to distinguish wtf the person on the other end really said.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:06:16 AM EST

[#13]

Nato standard, aviation, boating, law enforcement, fucking useless indian tech support even uses it.

It's pretty much the world standard when communicating in English.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:06:31 AM EST

[#14]

Well, it was created by a civilian aviation organization, so there's that.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:06:38 AM EST

[#15]

It’s only weird if he also says tree, fowr, fife, niner and gets pissed when people ask him to “repeat” himself.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:07:22 AM EST

[#16]

So , do you think I shouldn't be able to use FUBAR and Charlie Fox Trot?

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:07:40 AM EST

[#17]

M as in Mancy

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:08:02 AM EST

[#18]

If non military folks are not allowed to use the military phonetics, thereby depriving them of their First Amendment rights, then it will only be a matter of time until non military folks are not allowed to exercise their Second Amendment rights.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:08:14 AM EST

[#19]

Brah, do you Ham?

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:08:42 AM EST

[#20]

The Nics uses it.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:09:06 AM EST

[#21]

say again?

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:09:19 AM EST

[#22]

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Dang. Beat to it.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:09:24 AM EST

[#23]

It's military culture appropriation, and it must stop.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:09:27 AM EST

[#24]

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You do realize that the phonetic alphabet isn't only a military thing, right?

Even the NATO phonetic alphabet? I am not talking about the civilian phonetic alphabet.

ICAO or military phonetics are used in aviation every day. What is the civilian phonetic? The cop version?

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:09:37 AM EST

[#25]

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Even the NATO phonetic alphabet? I am not talking about the civilian phonetic alphabet.

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ICAO came up with it first - what you call "NATO phonetic alphabet" is really "ICAO phonetic alphabet". (There are some slight differences now, but they are effectively the same, by and large.)

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:10:17 AM EST

[#26]

If you don’t use the NATO phonetic alphabet, you end up with confusing shit like this.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:10:35 AM EST

[#27]

All your military are belong to us.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:10:39 AM EST

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Even the NATO phonetic alphabet? I am not talking about the civilian phonetic alphabet.

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What the fuck?

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:10:41 AM EST

[#29]

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It’s only weird if he also says tree, fowr, fife, niner and gets pissed when people ask him to “repeat” himself.

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Did I catch a "niner" in there? Were you calling from a walkie talkie?

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:11:34 AM EST

[#30]

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Thank God.

If you had said "repeat", the artillery folks would have been shelling us relentlessly. I know it's true because some NCO told me years ago.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:12:23 AM EST

[#31]

I don’t see why it matters, I use phonetic when on the phone, you don’t need to be military to say simple words

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:12:23 AM EST

[#32]

M as in Mancy.wmv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4jxLxZrMfs

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:12:51 AM EST

[#33]

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If you don’t use the NATO phonetic alphabet, you end up with confusing shit like this.

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LMAO, I'm going to start using some of those at work, just to fuck with people.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:13:21 AM EST

[#34]

P as in Philadelphia.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:13:40 AM EST

[#35]

Lima Oscar Lima

It’s a lot better than dipshits trying to read me a VIN:
S as in Sea
T as in terry
G as in Gerry
F as in ferry
V as in very
X as in xylophone
E as in Eye

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:13:57 AM EST

[#36]

Maybe hes a ham radio guy. I am and I use phonetics all the time on the phone. Jugdar in India rattles off some numbers in what he thinks is English and I don't understand.
I'm hooked on Phonetics!

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:14:08 AM EST

[#37]

Foxtrot Papa November India

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:14:11 AM EST

[#38]

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Even the NATO phonetic alphabet? I am not talking about the civilian phonetic alphabet.

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I use the cop phonetic alphabet.

NATO is better.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:14:43 AM EST

[#39]

It sound super autistic when military folks use them in normal conversation, too.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:14:58 AM EST

[#40]

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I don't see why it matters, I use phonetic when on the phone, you don't need to be military to say simple words

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Bullshit. I better not be hearing any civilians say Alpha or Zulu!

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:15:28 AM EST

[#41]

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If you don’t use the NATO phonetic alphabet, you end up with confusing shit like this.

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Ouja Mnemonic Gnat....I just pissed myself laughing.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:15:48 AM EST

[#42]

Stolen voweler.

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:15:49 AM EST

[#43]

Nothing annoys me more than someone who uses random words for a phonetic alphabet.

Part number DT35910D6

Over the phone is
Dog
Tree
3
5
9
1
0
Door
6

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:16:02 AM EST

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I use the cop phonetic alphabet.

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Its so hard to understand.

A = Donut
B = Donut
C = Donut
D = Donut
E = Donut
F = Donut....

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:16:34 AM EST

[#45]

I may judge you for saying tree or niner

Posted: 6/1/2019 11:17:49 AM EST

[#46]

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Because its the correct thing to do? Its a skill every man should have. I hate it when people try to say things like: "B, as is Babushka" , "C, as is Clarinet", now THAT sounds annoying. Just about everyone I know uses correct phonetic alphabet code; anything else is just plain ignorant.

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Larry Orange Larry