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Posted: 7/3/2018 10:07:47 AM EST
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There is a YouTube that explains this, search for “flat earth magnets time differential” and you’ll learn all you need to know.
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Posted: 7/3/2018 10:30:55 AM EST
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Akron Fulton Airport Longitude 81.4672° W
Cape Hatteras, NC Longitude 75.5393° W 5.9279 degrees Longitude difference with an averaged east west difference of 321.5 miles. A rough rotational speed of 1000 mph means that you're going to have around 20 min difference between sunsets at the given longitudes. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 10:34:50 AM EST
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It's weird that the OP isn't using "BOSS OUT"in this thread.
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Posted: 7/3/2018 10:49:40 AM EST
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I don't have the time, nor the crayons.
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Posted: 7/3/2018 10:49:49 AM EST
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Akron Fulton Airport Longitude 81.4672° W Cape Hatteras, NC Longitude 75.5393° W 5.9279 degrees Longitude difference with an averaged east west difference of 321.5 miles. A rough rotational speed of 1000 mph means that you're going to have around 20 min difference between sunsets at the given longitudes. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:10:38 AM EST
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Which doesn't make sense. It's more than a 20 minute difference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Akron Fulton Airport Longitude 81.4672° W Cape Hatteras, NC Longitude 75.5393° W 5.9279 degrees Longitude difference with an averaged east west difference of 321.5 miles. A rough rotational speed of 1000 mph means that you're going to have around 20 min difference between sunsets at the given longitudes. Google that. Again, neither the time nor crayons. The fact that you didn't learn that in school is troublesome. And I'm a, "damned millennial". |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:13:11 AM EST
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Which doesn't make sense. It's more than a 20 minute difference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Akron Fulton Airport Longitude 81.4672° W Cape Hatteras, NC Longitude 75.5393° W 5.9279 degrees Longitude difference with an averaged east west difference of 321.5 miles. A rough rotational speed of 1000 mph means that you're going to have around 20 min difference between sunsets at the given longitudes. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:15:55 AM EST
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Sure it does, when you also take into account the axial tilt of the Earth in the summer. Google that. Again, neither the time nor crayons. The fact that you didn't learn that in school is troublesome. And I'm a, "damned millennial". |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:19:15 AM EST
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 Moar details!  Time zones are something humans designed and imposed, that are fixed, into a variable situation. We then also military time zones (25), things like DST, Sun time, etc. etc. All follow the same idea: Give people a set time standard to follow. The only thing it has to do with the sun, is in some cases, it goes off 15 degree longitude lines. Sometimes. Not always. Also depends on the country. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:21:14 AM EST
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Just...wow...
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:24:00 AM EST
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Latitude also makes a difference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Akron Fulton Airport Longitude 81.4672° W Cape Hatteras, NC Longitude 75.5393° W 5.9279 degrees Longitude difference with an averaged east west difference of 321.5 miles. A rough rotational speed of 1000 mph means that you're going to have around 20 min difference between sunsets at the given longitudes. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:26:17 AM EST
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In ohio at this time of year at 9:15pm it is still light out, just getting dusk I was recently on the North Carolina coast and at 9:15pm it was pitch dark. How is this? Same time zones? I'm ignorant to it |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:29:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty well known down in the Carolinas that God loves us more. He's always doing nice little stuff for us. Extra sleep time, great beaches, best BBQ... |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:33:31 AM EST
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The world rotates east to west |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:34:26 AM EST
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Who's gonna be the guy that tells OP about the sun coming up earlier in eastern cities?
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:35:26 AM EST
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:36:32 AM EST
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Thanks for this. This kinda makes the most sense to me. But it still doesn't explain why they wouldn't make them different time zones if the difference is that extreme Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: FFS lets reason through this... The earth rotates through 360 degrees in 24 hours (high noon to high noon, you can test this at home- you just have to go outside) 360° / 24 hours = 15 Degrees per hour longitude is divided in to degrees, minutes and seconds; based on the rotational period of the sun. Central Ohio (downtown Columbus) has a longitude of -83° The North Carolina (randomly picked Beaufort) -76.6° There's a longitudinal difference of 6.4° 6.4/15 = .42 hours or ~26 minutes Looking at today's sunset for both 9:04 Columbus and 8:24 in Beaufort is 40 minutes apart, the extra 15 minutes is because of the difference in latitude. So your 9:15 to 9:15 pm comparison is actually seeing conditions separated by 40 minutes. To test this, watch the sunset in ohio, then wait 40 minutes and see if it's roughly the same darkness as you remembered from NC. Being a little discouraged that the above math didn't quite work out, I checked the sunset times for Columbus and Beaufort on March 20 (the Vernal Equinox) and got 7:44 Columbus, and 7:18 Beaufort, A difference of 26 minutes. So on an equinox the sun will set in Beaufort, then 26 minutes later it will set in Columbus. They could have done more time zones but adding or subtracting an hour is easier to keep straight than say 15 minutes. "You crossed a country line, you have to change your clock by 15 minutes", that kind of hassle isn't worth it just so some guy isn't confused by the 9:15pm sky looking different on the East and West edges of a time zone. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:38:49 AM EST
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Who's gonna be the guy that tells OP about the sun coming up earlier in eastern cities? |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:39:11 AM EST
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We should just have the same time zone for the entire country that way the sun would set at the same time on both coasts. Amirite? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In ohio at this time of year at 9:15pm it is still light out, just getting dusk I was recently on the North Carolina coast and at 9:15pm it was pitch dark. How is this? Same time zones? I'm ignorant to it 
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:39:39 AM EST
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You were supposed to stock up on your daylight savings time before going back to Ohio. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:43:13 AM EST
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Who's gonna be the guy that tells OP about the sun coming up earlier in eastern cities? |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:45:58 AM EST
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Of course not, the photons are completely different. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To start with, the sun doesn't magically jump 1/24'th of a distance across the sky each hour. Where you are east to west in the time zone matters. Where you are north to south also matters as far as how much daylight there is at any particular time of the year. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:46:09 AM EST
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I’d go northWest over Alaska Yeah polar is shortest Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another mind teaser.....Say your on a flight from NYC to China and assuming you want most direct route ....would you fly due east or fly north over Greenland Yeah polar is shortest It passes through both places and is 'centered' on the middle of the earth. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:46:44 AM EST
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In on 4!! Did we figure out that the sun doesn't jump forward every hour to make the time zones work out? |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:50:03 AM EST
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The apparent time of sunset and sunrise is more a function of Latitude (North and South) than it is of Longitude (East or West). That's why you can have days and even weeks where there is no sun at all (or no night) at extremes of Latitude. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In ohio at this time of year at 9:15pm it is still light out, just getting dusk I was recently on the North Carolina coast and at 9:15pm it was pitch dark. How is this? Same time zones? I'm ignorant to it The apparent time of sunset and sunrise is more a function of Latitude (North and South) than it is of Longitude (East or West). That's why you can have days and even weeks where there is no sun at all (or no night) at extremes of Latitude. There is a reason their are 24 'time zones' around the globe. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:53:56 AM EST
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Navigation at sea was a thing before railroads. BUT, I understand you are breaking it down, Barney style. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:55:32 AM EST
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For real? Yes, people are really that ignorant and simple minded. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:58:26 AM EST
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How many hundreds of time zones would you like? Also have you ever wondered how you can jump and land in roughly the same spot if the Earth is spinning 460 meters per second? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Thanks for this. This kinda makes the most sense to me. But it still doesn't explain why they wouldn't make them different time zones if the difference is that extreme Also have you ever wondered how you can jump and land in roughly the same spot if the Earth is spinning 460 meters per second? Ships did not move fast enough and on fixed rails for it to matter all that much. You DO need accurate time for ship navigation though. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 11:59:34 AM EST
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I bet you and Einstein are laughing your asses off. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:01:59 PM EST
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So, let me get this straight OP. You think an imaginary Time Zone line actually affects whether there will be light or darkness in that area? Please tell me you cannot be that moronically inept to simply comprehend this particular "issue".
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:10:49 PM EST
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You know, I'm starting to suspect OP isn't a police officer like he claims. Someone should make a pit thread and confirm...
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:20:20 PM EST
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Because in the summer time in the northern hemisphere the further north you go the more hours of daylight you have. North Carolina is further south than Ohio, so it gets darker sooner there in the summer.
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:21:02 PM EST
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You know, I'm starting to suspect OP isn't a police officer like he claims. Someone should make a pit thread and confirm... |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:26:32 PM EST
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Beat bad. Should have read past the OP before posting. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:35:16 PM EST
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We need to make Time zones every minute. It's a fairness issue. Uneven distribution of sunlight the way it is now.
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:37:25 PM EST
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Play? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Haha, nice shitposting OP. There is a fine line to walk, if you act too dumb it's too easy to tell. Too make it believable to you have to act like you are at least as smart as even the dumbest person we've ever met. That's why I always laugh at people when they try to "play dumb" online... if it works they look dumb, if it don't they look dumb. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:44:16 PM EST
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Why does a year have to be 365 days long? We should use a round number, something metric
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:45:18 PM EST
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The important question, has OP asked for a refund yet?
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:47:55 PM EST
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Beat bad. Should have read past the OP before posting. The song Changes in Attitudes, Changes in Latitudes is about how people's attitudes change in relation to their abode's location north and south. Latitude is up and down. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:48:33 PM EST
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I sleep better at night knowing you are a LEO. 
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:49:18 PM EST
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When you first meet people, do they talk slowly and loud to you? Maybe say they like your helmet? |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:54:09 PM EST
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Time zones are a social construct.
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:55:03 PM EST
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In North Carolina you have to stand on top of your Yeti to see the sun at 9:15. 
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:55:18 PM EST
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Who's gonna be the guy that tells OP about the sun coming up earlier in eastern cities? |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 12:56:08 PM EST
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I LOLed Sig line material right there. Can I use it ? |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 1:02:11 PM EST
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Why does a year have to be 365 days long? We should use a round number, something metric
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Posted: 7/3/2018 1:13:29 PM EST
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SR71's were based in California. I read a pilot's story that they could take off and land in the afternoon, and if they were flying east they actually got some night time by flying past the sunset and back into the light. e said it sometimes got interesting trying to explain 20 minutes of night time to the bean counters when they took off and landed before sunset the same day.
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Posted: 7/3/2018 1:16:40 PM EST
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Someone with nothing to do please cross reference posters/opinions with the latest dowsing thread. K thx.
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Posted: 7/3/2018 1:17:54 PM EST
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Which doesn't make sense. It's more than a 20 minute difference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Akron Fulton Airport Longitude 81.4672° W Cape Hatteras, NC Longitude 75.5393° W 5.9279 degrees Longitude difference with an averaged east west difference of 321.5 miles. A rough rotational speed of 1000 mph means that you're going to have around 20 min difference between sunsets at the given longitudes. |
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Posted: 7/3/2018 2:27:21 PM EST
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Should have gotten a gift card to some place that sells books or maps.
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