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Posted: 11/30/2021 3:57:29 PM EDT
So I think we all know SOLGW has carved out their piece of the market and they definitely have a following. Recently I came across a poll on social media asking about the “best” AR15 rifle, and wouldn’t you know it, SOLGW is in the running to be a finalist, currently head to head with KAC. Granted, this is nothing more than a popularity poll (no operational testing what so ever), but bare with me here. One thing is obvious: people LOVE this company. I would also like to say that I own not a single SOLGW firearm or item.

So then I got to thinking. For a company that manufactures nothing and outsources all of their parts, they have it together. They advertise high end, tight specs on every piece of the gun. This allows them to charge a premium without investing big into what it takes to make these parts in house. This allows them to warranty these parts basically forever and against anything.

The owner hands out customer service left and right. Call him if you have an issue. He gives you a replacement gun if you use yours to defend yourself and it gets taken as evidence. List goes on.

Obviously what they are doing is working. Their stuff stays out of stock everywhere and brings premium money when it is in stock.

I think from a business perspective we could all learn a lot from SOLGW.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 4:02:53 PM EDT
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They have the best pre-packaged LPK on the market as far as I am concerned. Parts from L.W. Schneider or Schmid and KNS. Not sure who makes the springs.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 4:03:40 PM EDT
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The business perspective as an end user typically works well.  Mike and them are all shooters and support your rights to the end.  Pair that with a quality product and open sight to the sources and you have a winner.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 4:07:07 PM EDT
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Sons of liberty gun assemblers
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 4:10:04 PM EDT
[#4]
If they are making money (Or hey... run it at Zero) then they are doing great!
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 4:10:26 PM EDT
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Im going to name my company guy who's been drinking bourbon for 3 hours riflewerkz
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 4:20:03 PM EDT
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I like to buy parts from them.  I always know they use and sell excellent quality stuff.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 4:29:47 PM EDT
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Indeed...
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 4:33:08 PM EDT
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They do make a pretty cool muzzle device (The Nox) and their mlok rails are pretty nice as well.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 4:36:04 PM EDT
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SOLGW should not even be spoken in the same sentence as Knights Armament. Period.

One is the very top of the food chain, the other a dumb boutique parts assembler.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:01:28 PM EDT
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Is BCM on the shit-list and I've just been under a rock?
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:05:03 PM EDT
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LOL no. The thread about the high rate of fire being bad for their barrels made the internet Navy Ranger Scout SEALS spidey senses tingle.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:05:56 PM EDT
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They sure went from unknown to marketing success rapidly, take note.

But their stuff is way overpriced.  It's just standard dime a dozen AR stuff.  They may assemble some nice parts but who couldn't for 2700 bucks.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:10:57 PM EDT
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You're further proving my point.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:12:50 PM EDT
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I didn't know anything about them really until I saw the owner on a Brownell's video talking about A5 gas systems. He seems to have a passion for it.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:13:10 PM EDT
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They sure went from unknown to marketing success rapidly, take note.

But their stuff is way overpriced.  It's just standard dime a dozen AR stuff.  They may assemble some nice parts but who couldn't for 2700 bucks.
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The vast majority of their rifles are under 2k.....

They even have models around 1k. Sometimes under
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:15:45 PM EDT
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Maybe BCM will learn from SOLGW
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:17:48 PM EDT
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From a technical standpoint this is very true
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:19:47 PM EDT
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They’ve had some issues
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:20:11 PM EDT
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Good CS, but not near the top of the best AR-15's being made.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:20:31 PM EDT
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Their Black Friday email was beyond depressing.

Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:21:03 PM EDT
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I've never heard of them.

ARs were easy back in the day.
Just ABC and the 'Chart'.


Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:22:13 PM EDT
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I was tempted to buy the Geissele/SOLGW collaboration upper on Brownell’s during BF…I waited too long. Oh well.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:22:26 PM EDT
[#23]
What about Aero Precision?
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:22:50 PM EDT
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I've never heard of them.

ARs were easy back in the day.
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Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:23:10 PM EDT
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It's ok.....if you're poor.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:24:42 PM EDT
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Have a barrel and LPK for a 11.5" pistol. Had no idea who they were as it was the only 11.5" I could find at the time and happened to need an LPK for the build as well.

It shoots. All that matters I guess?
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:30:52 PM EDT
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Sorry, I thought you said "Sons of Guns"




Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:32:07 PM EDT
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Lmao

Solgw same as kac


Lmaooooooooooooooooooo


Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:37:45 PM EDT
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Manufacturers and assemblers are not the same.

Instagram marketing. That’s all it is.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 6:45:10 PM EDT
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People on this site constantly say PSA is good, I wouldn't expect them to know anything about quality AR rifles.

I love SOLGW, hell, half of my rifles are built on sons lowers.  But they are not in the same league as lmt or kac or hodge
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 7:08:42 PM EDT
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They're definitely #1 at marketing.  That's not saying their product isn't good, but I would never say they're at the same level as KAC, LMT, or HK.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 7:14:01 PM EDT
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Usually when I am buying something like this, I buy the company, the product is a reflection of the company involved.  

Crappy company usually produces a crappy product.  A great company provides me a great product.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 7:18:46 PM EDT
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Their m4e1 enhanced upper/lower should take over the world. Best AR system on the market imo.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 7:20:48 PM EDT
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LOL no. The thread about the high rate of fire being bad for their barrels made the internet Navy Ranger Scout SEALS spidey senses tingle.
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LOL no. The thread about the high rate of fire being bad for their barrels made the internet Navy Ranger Scout SEALS spidey senses tingle.


No, their "serious trigger puller" post in GD sent anyone who wasn't a mindless fanboi packing.

ETA: That and them not having anything in stock for the last decade
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 7:30:47 PM EDT
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They’ve had some issues
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They’ve had some issues


I'm not into their metal stuff, but their buttstock, and foregrip are really nice.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 7:48:51 PM EDT
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My point exactly. People don't seem to care, though.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 7:53:56 PM EDT
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How do they guarantee these tight specs?  Do they have a metrology department?
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 7:55:20 PM EDT
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Give it a bit. Eventually arfcom will hate them and some busybodies will claim they never liked them first.

Bandsaw
Have bill call me

BCM
PSA lost a customer….
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 8:00:05 PM EDT
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Give it a bit. Eventually arfcom will hate them and some busybodies will claim they never liked them first.

Bandsaw
Have bill call me

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They already have enough hate here that Mike has outright said he does not cater to Arfcom as a market audience.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 8:01:46 PM EDT
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He caters to the gear queer autists on instagram who's only shooting is highly filtered pictures.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 8:07:19 PM EDT
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You're paying for quality control,  and not shitty parts sourced from you don't know where. Transparency and upfront specs are what you get. I have a few bcg's but I'm happy with my sionic rifles.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 8:11:18 PM EDT
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Whenever I hear about how awesome a place is about customer service with their product too often I consider many people are having problems with their products.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 8:16:13 PM EDT
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LOL no. The thread about the high rate of fire being bad for their barrels made the internet Navy Ranger Scout SEALS spidey senses tingle.
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You called? Internet Navy Ranger Scout SEAL Delta Od detachment reporting for service, SIR!!! don't try even try to verify. My records are classifieds. Only the president can unseal them.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 8:17:37 PM EDT
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It was also many many people reporting poor to mediocre accuracy over the years.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 8:18:27 PM EDT
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I don’t have a complete SOLGW gun, but I have used 14 of their LPKs over the last two years and their lowers are Mega.  Can’t beat ‘em.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 8:19:43 PM EDT
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They just had a 13.7 pin and weld job with a 13 inch Geissele rail upper that looked pretty damn good.  Almost bit but it was something like 1,200-1,300 bucks
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 8:24:22 PM EDT
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Great guys, great customer service, great product, fair prices.

Boom.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 8:25:38 PM EDT
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They are selling some good stuff.

I'm not a huge fan of the marketing, but c'est la vie.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 8:28:03 PM EDT
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Think it was the higher than normal failure rate of parts they were sending out.

Not sure if it was due to the covid blitz.
Link Posted: 11/30/2021 8:28:24 PM EDT
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What’s going to keep them from becoming another Spike’s?

Very similar, disruptive business models, 10 years apart.  
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