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Posted: 12/28/2018 3:28:28 AM EDT
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SC are a lot of things commonly:
Mentally ill- most of the time anyhow. There are degrees ranging from flat out nuts to those it takes 5 minutes of conversation to figure out Welfare leaches- yep, rail against the system, but take every dime offered, and lie to get more if possible... Dangerous to LE (and judges quite frequently -lots of phone threats and mailed in threats as well). Unpredictable (see above issues) But most of all, if they are true believers, they are the most NAIVE and/or GULLIBLE people in this country. Keep trying that same thing and it doesn't ever work, but they are sure they have a secret method to nullify the government. At first I watched the video, and thought "wow that went south real fast". But with the Deputy knowing this guys past behavior, and history of resisting arrest, I see no reason to screw around with him... Some people are slow learners. Soverign Citizens are the slowest learners though.... I have dealt with plenty of them, the made up paper license plates, the refusal to ID themselves, their threats against judges, cops, and anyone they deal with who doesn't agree with their tantrums. The lawsuits for stupid reasons, the fake lawsuits, etc. I believe they had to make a law called Simulation of Legal Process just to shut down some of the more frequent pretenders. I guarantee that guy will try some new variation of SC doctrine the next time he deals with a court, because one of these days, he knows he will convince a judge or jury or his overwhelming legal abilities... |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:02:19 AM EDT
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And the sovereign citizen was still at the "huh, pardon?"stage of processing. I don't think he expected it and I don't think he comprehended what had just occurred. Yes, I know his comprehension isn't required to place him under arrest. Tell me, what would have been so crazy about the officer telling the guy he was under arrest? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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THE JUDGE JUST TOLD HIM HE WAS ISSUING ANNARREST WARRANT. HE FUCKING KNEW HE WAS UNDER ARREST. this is embarrassing Tell me, what would have been so crazy about the officer telling the guy he was under arrest? The "Huh, Pardom" moment is when he whips out some long half hour quasi bullshit jailhouse lawyer speak about Gold Fringe on the Flag and places an fraudulent lien on the stenographer's cat for $32,000 in gold doubloons. They play fuck fuck games all the time. Fucker are Financial Scam Artists and are part of my bread and butter. They milk people out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. They claim to never recognize the authority of the US Government but they sure as shit recognize the authority of the US Dollar. Sweet Jesus, you of all people should know that me, as a cop I'm pretty fucking open about government abuses. But that wasn't abuse. That was all legit. The bailiff ain't there to explain to him shit. He isn't there to be with white gloves and say "Mr. Sovereign Citizen, Sir, please place your hands behind your back as I gently place these handcuffs on you. I have your consent to touch you correct?" Judge said he has a bench warrant. That is explanation enough. Fuck Sovereign Citizens |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:06:04 AM EDT
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I'm sure this guy is a chronic pain in everyone's neck and a complete asshole. But I still ask, why wouldn't you go through the formality of telling the guy you're placing him under arrest? Honest question - isn't that sort of standard procedure? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:09:54 AM EDT
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Look, I'll grant you everything you just said about Duck Dynasty there. But I still ask, why wouldn't you go through the formality of saying "I'm placing you under arrest" before putting your hands on him? I've heard two inconsistent arguments here: 1.) The guy knew the score and knew that he was being arrested. 2.) Grabbing him straight away gave the officer the element of surprise and made the arrest easier, therefore not going through the formality of telling him he was under arrest was a tactical element. Which is it? They can't both be true. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: And the sovereign citizen was still at the "huh, pardon?"stage of processing. I don't think he expected it and I don't think he comprehend what had just occurred. Yes, I know his comprehension isn't required to place him under arrest. Tell me, what would have been so crazy about the officer telling the guy he was under arrest? This was also not the sovereigns first time going into handcuffs. He knew exactly what was going on. Like i said, you're not even in the ball park of understanding when it comes to this incident. I've heard two inconsistent arguments here: 1.) The guy knew the score and knew that he was being arrested. 2.) Grabbing him straight away gave the officer the element of surprise and made the arrest easier, therefore not going through the formality of telling him he was under arrest was a tactical element. Which is it? They can't both be true. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:13:37 AM EDT
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wow, what a brilliant response. That explains everything. That arrest was pure vindictiveness and "I am going to show you who the boss is". Further alienating the thinking people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: When the judge called his case the idiot said he wasn't the defendant. Therefore the defendant isn't present and failed to appear for court so the judge issued a bench warrant for him. The deputy knew who the guy was so he immediate arrested him on the warrant the judge issued merely seconds prior. It's beautiful. Typical libtrard court logic, adding 2+2 and getting minus 10. Idiocracy is an upgrade from where we are. https://i.imgur.com/uYTvLq0.jpg That arrest was pure vindictiveness and "I am going to show you who the boss is". Further alienating the thinking people. As for the arrest.... LOL, you are soooo wrong on that one. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:16:38 AM EDT
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Thinking people already understand the situation. Government and law is nothing but polite violence. The Sovereign Citizens are goofy, because they attempt to emulate the same language, tone and demeanor to resist the government, as the government uses to justify it's use of force and application of violence. They're goofy because they think it's about words and ideas, when in reality it's about force. It's all gold fringes, admiralty courts, and petitions until the body slam. The simple truth is one man can't resist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: wow, what a brilliant response. That explains everything. That arrest was pure vindictiveness and "I am going to show you who the boss is". Further alienating the thinking people. Government and law is nothing but polite violence. The Sovereign Citizens are goofy, because they attempt to emulate the same language, tone and demeanor to resist the government, as the government uses to justify it's use of force and application of violence. They're goofy because they think it's about words and ideas, when in reality it's about force. It's all gold fringes, admiralty courts, and petitions until the body slam. The simple truth is one man can't resist. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:20:01 AM EDT
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... The "Huh, Pardom" moment is when he whips out some long half hour quasi bullshit jailhouse lawyer speak about Gold Fringe on the Flag and places an fraudulent lien on the stenographer's cat for $32,000 in gold doubloons. ... 
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:21:02 AM EDT
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The guy created his own problems and got what he deserved. There are very few freedom loving people here. Most of the people here are happy to see the heavy hand of government come down on the people. I'm not even talking about the stupid auditors and PINAC guys. I'm talk about people who have been busted for NFA violations and ARFCOM cheers for government to fuck these people over. So if you're looking for freedom loving this is not the place for you. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:33:07 AM EDT
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He said he wasn't there but he was!!
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:33:22 AM EDT
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... The "Huh, Pardom" moment is when he whips out some long half hour quasi bullshit jailhouse lawyer speak about Gold Fringe on the Flag and places an fraudulent lien on the stenographer's cat for $32,000 in gold doubloons. ... When we arrested him. He spouted the typical shit. Doesn't recognize the authority of the warrant because the court that issued it is a foreign court and enforces admiralty law. That he had sovereign immunity due to some bullshit about not being a corporate person. That he belonged to the "insert fake name here" tribe and as a tribal elder he wasn't a US Citizen, but was a representative of that nation. Threatened to place a financial lien against my property once he found out my corporate name. Etc, etc, etc.... They are truly a breed unto themselves. They are con artists that scam the fuck out of everyone. That is partially why I have no respect for the Bundy clan out in Nevada and when they took over the wildlife refuge in Oregon. They're the same shit. They don't recognize the authority of the government but they sure leech off it via every damn social service they can get and 9 out ot 10 times they do it through fraudulent means. Fucking shysters. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:34:18 AM EDT
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Because the formality was the JUDGE FUCKING TOLD HIM. When I arrest someone. I tell them "you're under arrest" once, that's it. I don't have to go into a long explanation on what the charges are or why. Hell, I present my cases to the State Attorney's Office and Judge for arrest warrants even though Inhave probable cause. Make it even easier. Why are the under arrest? Judge fucking said so. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:36:04 AM EDT
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Because the formality was the JUDGE FUCKING TOLD HIM. When I arrest someone. I tell them "you're under arrest" once, that's it. I don't have to go into a long explanation on what the charges are or why. Hell, I present my cases to the State Attorney's Office and Judge for arrest warrants even though Inhave probable cause. Make it even easier. Why are the under arrest? Judge fucking said so. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:37:20 AM EDT
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A bench warrant for Failure to Appear. Simply being in the galleries isn't an appearance before the courts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because the formality was the JUDGE FUCKING TOLD HIM. When I arrest someone. I tell them "you're under arrest" once, that's it. I don't have to go into a long explanation on what the charges are or why. Hell, I present my cases to the State Attorney's Office and Judge for arrest warrants even though Inhave probable cause. Make it even easier. Why are the under arrest? Judge fucking said so. All he had to say was "yes your Honor I am here" and walk up to the table and begin the hearing??? You have got to be fucking joking!!!
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:41:24 AM EDT
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It sure seems like if you were going to believe this sovereign citizen stuff you would want to see some evidence that it actually works. Why don't any of these sovereign citizen guys have video where one of these tards goes to court and the judge says, "WELP CAN'T DO SHIT, FLAG'S ALL WRONG YOU'RE FREE TO GO BLAH BLAH I'M AN ADMIRAL NOW BLAH" and then the tard smiles at the camera and says free man on the land etc I have the cheat code, hooked on gold fringe worked for me! 
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Posted: 12/28/2018 6:43:06 AM EDT
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If I was a judge set to retire, I would plan my last case for a SC and toss it out, saying I had no jurisdiction over a SC, and post the video to YouTube myself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It sure seems like if you were going to believe this sovereign citizen stuff you would want to see some evidence that it actually works. Why don't any of these sovereign citizen guys have video where one of these tards goes to court and the judge says, "WELP CAN'T DO SHIT, FLAG'S ALL WRONG YOU'RE FREE TO GO BLAH BLAH I'M AN ADMIRAL NOW BLAH" and then the tard smiles at the camera and says free man on the land etc I have the cheat code, hooked on gold fringe worked for me! He thought that would avoid an arrest if the judge found him guilty of whatever the fuck he was there for......but his alter ego was the only one there to "discuss this matter"??? And, as a result, we all know you cannot arrest someone's "alter ego"??? I can't stop laughing...…
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Posted: 12/28/2018 7:02:08 AM EDT
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What was this loon's "strategy" by saying he wasn't there but he really was there??? He thought that would avoid an arrest if the judge found him guilty of whatever the fuck he was there for......but his alter ego was the only one there to "discuss this matter"??? And, as a result, we all know you cannot arrest someone's "alter ego"??? I can't stop laughing... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It sure seems like if you were going to believe this sovereign citizen stuff you would want to see some evidence that it actually works. Why don't any of these sovereign citizen guys have video where one of these tards goes to court and the judge says, "WELP CAN'T DO SHIT, FLAG'S ALL WRONG YOU'RE FREE TO GO BLAH BLAH I'M AN ADMIRAL NOW BLAH" and then the tard smiles at the camera and says free man on the land etc I have the cheat code, hooked on gold fringe worked for me! He thought that would avoid an arrest if the judge found him guilty of whatever the fuck he was there for......but his alter ego was the only one there to "discuss this matter"??? And, as a result, we all know you cannot arrest someone's "alter ego"??? I can't stop laughing... The best way to describe it is they honestly believe they are immune from the authorities since they consider themselves to be separate as it this was a corporate business environment. They think they're self employed and that the government is another company. Since they're self employed, the other company can't tell them what to do. It's like you have your own machine shop and IBM comes in and says you're fired. They have no authority to do that. Same as when someone represents a business but legally speaking, a business and a person are two different things. So his line of thought is that he is representing the "business entity" that is being tried and he's just the PR spokesman. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 7:07:28 AM EDT
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Typical Sovereign bullshit about being a free man of real property or some such and representing his corporate person being tried in the case since as a sovereign, he isn't a subject of the Corporation that claims to be the US Government or its Political Subdivisions. The best way to describe it is they honestly believe they are immune from the authorities since they consider themselves to be separate as it this was a corporate business environment. They think they're self employed and that the government is another company. Since they're self employed, the other company can't tell them what to do. It's like you have your own machine shop and IBM comes in and says you're fired. They have no authority to do that. Same as when someone represents a business but legally speaking, a business and a person are two different things. So his line of thought is that he is representing the "business entity" that is being tried and he's just the PR spokesman. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It sure seems like if you were going to believe this sovereign citizen stuff you would want to see some evidence that it actually works. Why don't any of these sovereign citizen guys have video where one of these tards goes to court and the judge says, "WELP CAN'T DO SHIT, FLAG'S ALL WRONG YOU'RE FREE TO GO BLAH BLAH I'M AN ADMIRAL NOW BLAH" and then the tard smiles at the camera and says free man on the land etc I have the cheat code, hooked on gold fringe worked for me! He thought that would avoid an arrest if the judge found him guilty of whatever the fuck he was there for......but his alter ego was the only one there to "discuss this matter"??? And, as a result, we all know you cannot arrest someone's "alter ego"??? I can't stop laughing... The best way to describe it is they honestly believe they are immune from the authorities since they consider themselves to be separate as it this was a corporate business environment. They think they're self employed and that the government is another company. Since they're self employed, the other company can't tell them what to do. It's like you have your own machine shop and IBM comes in and says you're fired. They have no authority to do that. Same as when someone represents a business but legally speaking, a business and a person are two different things. So his line of thought is that he is representing the "business entity" that is being tried and he's just the PR spokesman.
So, if I am a SC......and I murder someone in cold blood, only my "corporation" can be arrested???
There HAS TO BE drugs or booze involved in this thought process!!
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Posted: 12/28/2018 7:14:11 AM EDT
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I used to think that Sovereign Citizens were just nutjobs. Then, I saw this video compilation and listened to the compelling arguments that the young lady in the first video clip levied. I was completely wrong. These people are pure genius, and clearly need to be in charge of writing judicial law. Watch the first 5 1/2 minutes of this video and tell me that I'm wrong. 
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Posted: 12/28/2018 7:16:45 AM EDT
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Is it just me, or did the deputy just attack a nonviolent person out of the blue? That's fucked up.  |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 7:24:25 AM EDT
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I don't think that was the defendant. It looked and sounded like Tommy Chong. I think a mistake was made.
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Posted: 12/28/2018 7:27:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2018 8:02:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2018 8:05:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I ended up settling it for $6 Billion. The joke was on him, though: I paid in worthless FRNs! |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 8:07:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Silly, you should have declared yourself a sovereign citizen and paid him in your own currency draw up with crayon. I would have paid him with an elevenity billion note and asked for change.
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Posted: 12/28/2018 8:19:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2018 8:21:30 AM EDT
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Seems like the bailiff should have informed the sovereign citizen that he was placing him under arrest and to assume his preferred position for cuffing before he immediately went hands on. But I know some here get a freedom boner from seeing agents of the state put criminals in their places so .... whatever.
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Posted: 12/28/2018 8:27:49 AM EDT
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Thinking people already understand the situation. Government and law is nothing but polite violence. The Sovereign Citizens are goofy, because they attempt to emulate the same language, tone and demeanor to resist the government, as the government uses to justify it's use of force and application of violence. They're goofy because they think it's about words and ideas, when in reality it's about force. It's all gold fringes, admiralty courts, and petitions until the body slam. The simple truth is one man can't resist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: wow, what a brilliant response. That explains everything. That arrest was pure vindictiveness and "I am going to show you who the boss is". Further alienating the thinking people. Government and law is nothing but polite violence. The Sovereign Citizens are goofy, because they attempt to emulate the same language, tone and demeanor to resist the government, as the government uses to justify it's use of force and application of violence. They're goofy because they think it's about words and ideas, when in reality it's about force. It's all gold fringes, admiralty courts, and petitions until the body slam. The simple truth is one man can't resist. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 8:31:13 AM EDT
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i dont understand the sovereign citizen thing. claiming it is like claiming you are a god. of course your not and dont have the powers of a god so arguing you are a god does you little good. but these folks claim their weird ideas anyway and end up suffering the results their idiocy. so why do folks claim this weird idea? since it gets them nowhere but fucked. are all such folks mentally deranged and believe they have special rights and powers that dont exist? |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 8:32:57 AM EDT
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If he's not a "person" the cops can't violate his rights
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Posted: 12/28/2018 8:48:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In his mind he wasn’t lying. His corporate entity wasn’t present because he didn’t agree to joinder with the corporation that was the court. Spend a little time looking into these nuts. It’s fascinating. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 9:47:06 AM EDT
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I have known and had the opportunity to work with about three or four. The one spent the maximum amount of time in federal prison that one could possibly spend as a result of his idiotic beliefs. The thing was that he was otherwis a smart guy, (but apparently not that smart). Different guy, I confronted one time about his direction to pay a fine or restitution. I dont remember which it was, he always carried a bible and said many times it was the ultimate codification of authority. I asked him about the verse "render unto Cesar that which is Ceasers and unto God that which is Gods" Mark 12:17. He said that wasn't in his bible.
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Posted: 12/28/2018 10:35:26 AM EDT
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The guy created his own problems and got what he deserved. There are very few freedom loving people here. Most of the people here are happy to see the heavy hand of government come down on the people. I'm not even talking about the stupid auditors and PINAC guys. I'm talk about people who have been busted for NFA violations and ARFCOM cheers for government to fuck these people over. So if you're looking for freedom loving this is not the place for you. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 10:45:24 AM EDT
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I have known and had the opportunity to work with about three or four. The one spent the maximum amount of time in federal prison that one could possibly spend as a result of his idiotic beliefs. The thing was that he was otherwis a smart guy, (but apparently not that smart). Different guy, I confronted one time about his direction to pay a fine or restitution. I dont remember which it was, he always carried a bible and said many times it was the ultimate codification of authority. I asked him about the verse "render unto Cesar that which is Ceasers and unto God that which is Gods" Mark 12:17. He said that wasn't in his bible.
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Posted: 12/28/2018 10:49:26 AM EDT
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The guy created his own problems and got what he deserved. There are very few freedom loving people here. Most of the people here are happy to see the heavy hand of government come down on the people. I'm not even talking about the stupid auditors and PINAC guys. I'm talk about people who have been busted for NFA violations and ARFCOM cheers for government to fuck these people over. So if you're looking for freedom loving this is not the place for you. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 11:23:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: wow, what a brilliant response. That explains everything. That arrest was pure vindictiveness and "I am going to show you who the boss is". Further alienating the thinking people. Government and law is nothing but polite violence. The Sovereign Citizens are goofy, because they attempt to emulate the same language, tone and demeanor to resist the government, as the government uses to justify it's use of force and application of violence. They're goofy because they think it's about words and ideas, when in reality it's about force. It's all gold fringes, admiralty courts, and petitions until the body slam. The simple truth is one man can't resist. Kharn |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 11:30:42 AM EDT
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The defendant will file a $500,000,000 lien against the judge and deputy payable only in gold coin. I’m not even kidding. They are all fucking retarded and need to me eliminated from society. Just my personal opinion You can google him with Shawn Rice Seligman. Long before that, I cited and released some woman, and at her pre-trial hearing, he shows up, representing her with a pile of worthless SC paper. Two thing occurred: The County Attorney and I wouldn't proceed until she got a real lawyer, which the CA later arranged with the public defender's office, and,,, I told Rice that he was not an attorney, nor licensed to practice law in AZ, and was not a certified document preparer in AZ, and if he, and if he did either again, I'd charge him with all the felonies that applied. Never heard from him again until he was arrested for the money laundering scheme he was eventually put into club fed for. Jay |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 11:31:03 AM EDT
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It appeared to me that the man in the beard created Joinder. Just kidding, this thread delivers.
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Posted: 12/28/2018 11:36:56 AM EDT
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Is it just me, or did the deputy just attack a nonviolent person out of the blue? That's fucked up. So you're saying that the bailiff has no duty to inform the guy that he's placing him under arrest? You're fine with a law officer just grabbing him without speaking a word? I have no idea if what the bailiff did was legal or not, and have made no comment on the legality. But it's not how law enforcement should function in a free country. If the guy was posing some threat then sure, do what you've got to do. But there would seem to be a moral (if not legal) obligation to give a suspect that has so far not posed a threat at least the opportunity to comply with an arrest. This suspect (idiot though he may be) wasn't given that opportunity. He can tell him later. Jay |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 11:42:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2018 11:42:36 AM EDT
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The guy created his own problems and got what he deserved. There are very few freedom loving people here. Most of the people here are happy to see the heavy hand of government come down on the people. I'm not even talking about the stupid auditors and PINAC guys. I'm talk about people who have been busted for NFA violations and ARFCOM cheers for government to fuck these people over. So if you're looking for freedom loving this is not the place for you. 
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Posted: 12/28/2018 12:04:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2018 12:13:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2018 12:18:28 PM EDT
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You guys sure are shocked by the sight of violence as a means of conflict resolution. By applying only the necessary force to enact an arrest, that deputy saved his county a bucket of money and the SC a ton of pain and suffering. When the Judge says "arrest him" you darn well do it. And you do it like you mean business. We've all seen video of officers who are all touchy feely and trying to avoid any discomfort and how they wind up getting their asses handed back to them.
When someone is taken into custody and doesn't carry on like a lunatic they don't get pig piled like that guy. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 12:25:09 PM EDT
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Seems a little excessive on the cops/courts part, these reactions actually seem to just market these types. Also odd, if you think the system doesn’t apply to you, why are you even in the court in the first place? How do?
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Posted: 12/28/2018 12:27:57 PM EDT
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Seems like a finding of contempt would be cleaner, but either way he was asking to get his pee pee smacked. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 12:37:36 PM EDT
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He fucking knew what was going on. It is all a game they play. Fucking con artists, shysters, schemers, and drifter scum bags. They're on par with the Roma, Gypsies, and Irish Travelers. The "Huh, Pardom" moment is when he whips out some long half hour quasi bullshit jailhouse lawyer speak about Gold Fringe on the Flag and places an fraudulent lien on the stenographer's cat for $32,000 in gold doubloons. They play fuck fuck games all the time. Fucker are Financial Scam Artists and are part of my bread and butter. They milk people out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. They claim to never recognize the authority of the US Government but they sure as shit recognize the authority of the US Dollar. Sweet Jesus, you of all people should know that me, as a cop I'm pretty fucking open about government abuses. But that wasn't abuse. That was all legit. The bailiff ain't there to explain to him shit. He isn't there to be with white gloves and say "Mr. Sovereign Citizen, Sir, please place your hands behind your back as I gently place these handcuffs on you. I have your consent to touch you correct?" Judge said he has a bench warrant. That is explanation enough. Fuck Sovereign Citizens
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Posted: 12/28/2018 12:38:54 PM EDT
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As a young attorney in the mid-90’s, my law firm thought I’d be the perfect candidate to handle a breach of contract case against a SC. I’ll say this about this particular individual, while he was nuttier than a fruitcake (more on that in just a sec), he made me, my client and the judge work overtime responding to the myriad of non-sensical briefs, motions and discovery requests that he filed. He also threatened my managing partner’s wife and kids during a particularly antagonistic court hearing.
To add to this SC’s nutty persona, he was also in the middle of transitioning from a man to a woman throughout both the trial court proceedings and the subsequent sham appellate court filings he engaged in. I began to rethink my career choice at that point. I still do, really, but my skill set is pretty limited nowadays. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 1:19:58 PM EDT
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As a young attorney in the mid-90’s, my law firm thought I’d be the perfect candidate to handle a breach of contract case against a SC. I’ll say this about this particular individual, while he was nuttier than a fruitcake (more on that in just a sec), he made me, my client and the judge work overtime responding to the myriad of non-sensical briefs, motions and discovery requests that he filed. He also threatened my managing partner’s wife and kids during a particularly antagonistic court hearing. To add to this SC’s nutty persona, he was also in the middle of transitioning from a man to a woman throughout both the trial court proceedings and the subsequent sham appellate court filings he engaged in. I began to rethink my career choice at that point. I still do, really, but my skill set is pretty limited nowadays. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 1:35:45 PM EDT
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I love how the judge said warrant and the bailif went into action like he already knew what was up. I bet there is a lot of prior history of that nut case.
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Posted: 12/28/2018 1:44:24 PM EDT
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[pothead deadbeat] I am not me !
I do not recognize your state and federal govt ! you rules and laws do not apply to me ! GIVE ME MY FUCKING WELLFARE CHECK NOW !!! ——— we should deport them
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