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Quoted: Docking/escape hatch is in progress.
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Automotive paint funnels. The ones used to pour the paint into the spray gun. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Google "Lamp Shades" maybe you will get lucky. There are an awful lot of them out there. You talking about for the RCS bells? I'm not sure there are lamp shades that are 1 3/8" in diameter. Automotive paint funnels. The ones used to pour the paint into the spray gun. not a bad idea, they cant be wax coated wax in a paint job would be a nightmare |
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You could start with something like this and cut them down: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41YJKw-FOvL._AC_US160_.jpg They have them at Amazon, and probably a craft store like Michaels. 2" across at the open end. View Quote Those would work, but I think we will just make our own. It's going well right now. |
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Can't the woodshop have some spun out on a lathe pretty quick for you? Or aren't they that far into their semester?
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+$75.00 T 50 stapler, door trim, screws, and a 7/16ths sheet of chip board for the satellite. -------------------- $772.00 sub total for the project. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Subtotal so far: 347.00 I'm going to update this a bit. We used approximately 100 sheets of pen and ink board so far. Those cost about $3.50 each so : $347.00 + 350.00 --------------- Sub total so far on the project: $697.00 +$75.00 T 50 stapler, door trim, screws, and a 7/16ths sheet of chip board for the satellite. -------------------- $772.00 sub total for the project. Adding some expanding foam today. Needed another can. + 12.00 ----------------- $784.00 New sub total |
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https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5566/30125287023_aa96e68e16_h.jpg My God, you really are going to make them do it. View Quote Surprisingly, I had quite a few volunteers today. Some were adamant about not wanting to do it, but there were those who thought it was pretty fun. At least we aren't writing numbers on each tile. |
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Surprisingly, I had quite a few volunteers today. Some were adamant about not wanting to do it, but there were those who thought it was pretty fun. At least we aren't writing numbers on each tile. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5566/30125287023_aa96e68e16_h.jpg My God, you really are going to make them do it. Surprisingly, I had quite a few volunteers today. Some were adamant about not wanting to do it, but there were those who thought it was pretty fun. At least we aren't writing numbers on each tile. Is that a kid who had the nerve to express something that wasn't exuberant cheer at some earlier point in this project? And I gotta ask, why no numbers? You are going this far for thermal blankie texture, but some little numbers are over the top? Time to get a laser cut metal 10pt font stencil and have one of the less Team Players get going on the numbers with watered down paint. |
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Is that a kid who had the nerve to express something that wasn't exuberant cheer at some earlier point in this project? And I gotta ask, why no numbers? You are going this far for thermal blankie texture, but some little numbers are over the top? Time to get a laser cut metal 10pt font stencil and have one of the less Team Players get going on the numbers with watered down paint. View Quote No, but that young man did work on the tiles by his own choice also. Like i said, they thought it was fun. As to the numbers, it would be impossible, as small as they would need to be. |
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Update 11/3 Wing surface details started to get serious today. This guy had too much of finishing the wing edge today and went a bit off the side of the boat...... It probably had something to do with the spray foam. He ended up with some in his hair. He did however, finish the wing edge so details can begin on both wings. They were a bit goofy today. The gloves on his head are his used ones....including sticky foam. I chew them out for wasting rubber gloves. That is how he got foam in his hair. https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5340/30460119640_ac22e1a44d_h.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5754/30644250192_d50654f83d_h.jpg https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5502/30760853155_93eb8579cc_h.jpg https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5653/30760819485_3131697626_h.jpg Edge clean up around the windows. https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5672/30672554891_4649832a08_h.jpg Overzealous use of caulking.... https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5619/30460230100_e67f2d538f_h.jpg OHSA approved vertical enhancement. https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5507/30672593791_b21511fa39_h.jpg https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5479/30644269412_1a917dbfce_h.jpg Tile work coming along. https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5566/30125287023_aa96e68e16_h.jpg More wing details being laid out and cut. https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5450/30125184193_fcffed50a2_h.jpg https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5618/30460129950_4e25238e21_h.jpg topside replication https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5481/30760774935_cee2f1b39a_h.jpg https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5538/30460082740_6a6092a785_h.jpg View Quote Fine looking ship! I don't know if it is too late to add in but the star tracker doors are missing. They are the figure 8ish or peanut shaped indentations on the port side fwd of windows 2 and 3. The doors covered the star tracker cameras, one pointed strait up along the x axis and the other pointed strait out the port side or y axis. during orbit the vehicle would snap a picture out both cameras and compare the stars against maps loaded into the computer to determine location and vehicle flight orientation. Tile and blanket installation is looking good, realistic. |
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Fine looking ship! I don't know if it is too late to add in but the star tracker doors are missing. They are the figure 8ish or peanut shaped indentations on the port side fwd of windows 2 and 3. The doors covered the star tracker cameras, one pointed strait up along the x axis and the other pointed strait out the port side or y axis. during orbit the vehicle would snap a picture out both cameras and compare the stars against maps loaded into the computer to determine location and vehicle flight orientation. Tile and blanket installation is looking good, realistic. View Quote There's a good photo of the star tracker doors back on page 8 of this thread. |
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Fine looking ship! I don't know if it is too late to add in but the star tracker doors are missing. They are the figure 8ish or peanut shaped indentations on the port side fwd of windows 2 and 3. The doors covered the star tracker cameras, one pointed strait up along the x axis and the other pointed strait out the port side or y axis. during orbit the vehicle would snap a picture out both cameras and compare the stars against maps loaded into the computer to determine location and vehicle flight orientation. Tile and blanket installation is looking good, realistic. View Quote I think I know what you are talking about and we haven't gotten to them yet. My student who will be cutting those out wasn't here this morning. I've got one student I trust to lay out those kind of details, then cut into the skin to sculpt. I looked on pg8, and am pretty sure what you are talking about. |
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I don't know if it is too late to add in but the star tracker doors are missing. They are the figure 8ish or peanut shaped indentations on the port side fwd of windows 2 and 3. The doors covered the star tracker cameras, one pointed strait up along the x axis and the other pointed strait out the port side or y axis. during orbit the vehicle would snap a picture out both cameras and compare the stars against maps loaded into the computer to determine location and vehicle flight orientation. Tile and blanket installation is looking good, realistic. View Quote I'm confused by what you are referring to. Can you circle them in a photo or something so I can then go "ahh, that's what that was." ? How obvious were these ports/doors? More obvious than the individual tiles? |
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Yup, those are the doors. That one picture is a good rare one of them actually being open and the lense is visible, they are normally closed for keeping debris away from the lense.
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Well, I done messed up. I thought I checked twice at the direction that the tiles were supposed to go, but looking again today, we've got them going the wrong way. We were never going to get the pattern exact, as it is pretty complicated, but I thought we'd at least get most of the tiles going the correct way. Ugggg. It's too late to go back and start over, I'd lose the patience of my tilers. Dang. Pretty sure we won't survive re-entry now. |
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Well, I done messed up. I thought I checked twice at the direction that the tiles were supposed to go, but looking again today, we've got them going the wrong way. We were never going to get the pattern exact, as it is pretty complicated, but I thought we'd at least get most of the tiles going the correct way. Ugggg. It's too late to go back and start over, I'd lose the patience of my tilers. Dang. Pretty sure we won't survive re-entry now. View Quote Ya'll should launch it from the top of the foot ball stadium to verify it glides. |
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Word of caution. I imagine some forlorn English teacher in your school is plotting how they can be adopted by arfcom to get rare editions sent to them, or at the very least, free pens.
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Quoted: Tiles coming along. Wrong, but along. https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5760/30744090506_961040fb90_h.jpg View Quote |
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I don't know if it is too late to add in but the star tracker doors are missing. They are the figure 8ish or peanut shaped indentations on the port side fwd of windows 2 and 3. The doors covered the star tracker cameras, one pointed strait up along the x axis and the other pointed strait out the port side or y axis. during orbit the vehicle would snap a picture out both cameras and compare the stars against maps loaded into the computer to determine location and vehicle flight orientation. Tile and blanket installation is looking good, realistic. I'm confused by what you are referring to. Can you circle them in a photo or something so I can then go "ahh, that's what that was." ? How obvious were these ports/doors? More obvious than the individual tiles? http://www.drafts.de/archiv/images/ms/en/9o4gpdx8l1rv2sjpxxyse6lshejzv6-pre.jpg http://www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/1/0/1/1861101.jpg Ok, I see now. I have no clue what the second picture is showing, but I see it in the top photo. As far as the tiling goes, I think there's an easier way to go about it. A Roller thingy where the tiles would sit, which is then rolled through adhesive, and the tiles would then get rolled onto the wing in the right orientation and spacing. I'm wondering if the Students are going to actually make the thing correct now, both adding the Celestial Navigation, and doing the tiles correctly. Seems they are doing it the really slow way. Find the person who decided to start the tiles going the wrong direction, and it's his job to remove what is there, and start over correctly. Do they think they have some sort of union job or something? |
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I'm wondering if the Students are going to actually make the thing correct now, both adding the Celestial Navigation, and doing the tiles correctly. Seems they are doing it the really slow way. Find the person who decided to start the tiles going the wrong direction, and it's his job to remove what is there, and start over correctly. Do they think they have some sort of union job or something? View Quote You fellas need to work on your delivery. My students were in top form today giving me crap about the tiles. 8th hour, the last hour of the day was a rough one. |
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Quoted: "Ahhhhhh, that new tool smell". Fresh from the box!! https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5821/30478237860_9377c304ca_h.jpg Putting it to use right off the bat..... https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5332/30662307662_b47b79fe6e_h.jpg Smoothing out the nose with paper machete https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5478/30779591555_cf5220921c_h.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: Tiles coming along. Wrong, but along. https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5760/30744090506_961040fb90_h.jpg View Quote If you get it wrong, sell it wrong. "Wrong is the right way of doing it, and NASA should have done it this way in the first place." Democrats have been doing it for years. |
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"Ahhhhhh, that new tool smell". Fresh from the box!! https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5821/30478237860_9377c304ca_h.jpg Putting it to use right off the bat..... https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5332/30662307662_b47b79fe6e_h.jpg Smoothing out the nose with paper machete https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5478/30779591555_cf5220921c_h.jpg You were way too generous with that . That saw is so quiet! Than you again! |
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Look at this kids! LOOK! http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-114/hires/iss011e11078.jpg View Quote That damn photo.... I've got it printed off all over the place, and still, I messed it up. I was going to have them switch the pattern to the correct way on the other areas under the shuttle, but I may just have them continue as it is. It will look really messed up if we change it. As for the speed of this, the tiling is actually going pretty well, given the few students who've worked on it so far. I think when we get serious, we can cover ground quickly. The kids also like the way it looks, so that makes them want to do more. |
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Crazy schedule the next few days. Parent Teacher conferences tonight and Tuesday from 5-8pm. Tiling went well today. Students are starting to get in a rhythm. https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5646/30213281383_1d20fd74d6_h.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5756/30216445344_2832192f5f_h.jpg Tail trim finishing up. https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5576/30216422034_def483f91f_h.jpg Nose got sanded, then we added bondo to clean up the lines a little. More sanding tomorrow. https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5703/30760699451_34ec99cb2a_h.jpg Hatch got more details finished. Tiles around it start tomorrow. https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5562/30848468745_05867e8bad_h.jpg Details on the wings. https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5503/30216385394_931f1cb84e_h.jpg View Quote |
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Update 11/8 Long day.... for many reasons. Parent teacher conferences the last two nights, kids put an elk together today, the election, and it's only Tues. Brass, thank you again! Coolest connector ever! This will really help us when we get to airbrushing. We are getting close to paint! https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5572/30834876286_bb950cc1ad_h.jpg The week's Haiku.... https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5810/30570215530_f392999733_h.jpg We noticed that the blankets weren't the same on all the shuttles. We decided to go with something in the middle, as far as he pattern along the edges. https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5828/30782934821_309adca2ad_h.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5830/30239191464_b94829b2c1_h.jpg These go under the cowlings. Lots of details left before they will be added in a relief. https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5792/30754858472_e16895ceb5_h.jpg The beginning of Ikon. https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5491/30834897226_f0659feb9a_h.jpg Does the shuttle need rockets??? These will turn around and be cut down. Wait and see. https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5528/30235880113_e804f2e7d2_h.jpg View Quote Your students have discovered the dual purpose of those thrusters! |
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Update 11/9 Much easier day today. Elk looks good. Almost all the students were buzzing about the election. I try to stay away from political conversations, as I don't think it's my place, but I was asked probably 10 times today who I voted for, and mostly by girls. I tried to brush off their questions, but I would always answer, "you know what I do in my free time." Surprisingly, they were all excited that I had voted for Trump. Odd, and interesting. Today, good details were coming along. This will be recessed in the panel. https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5696/30797833921_770c4b79c3_h.jpg The front end is looking good. https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5765/30770085712_4438dba4c0_h.jpg More bondo on the nose, and more sanding. https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5722/30886293595_4e1e2345a3_h.jpg https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5660/30797836451_55b726a31d_h.jpg Tomorrow I'm buying paint. White, satin is what I think we will start with as a base coat. May pick up a can of gray for the wing edges too. View Quote LH2 umbilical panel looking good there Guns! |
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LH2 umbilical panel looking good there Guns! View Quote I was hoping you'd tell is what the proper name was. And thank you, the student has been pretty dedicated to the details on it. Hes being more thorough than I would have been. Any close ups of it would be appreciated if someone has them. |
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I was hoping you'd tell is what the proper name was. And thank you, the student has been pretty dedicated to the details on it. Hes being more thorough than I would have been. Any close ups of it would be appreciated if someone has them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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LH2 umbilical panel looking good there Guns! I was hoping you'd tell is what the proper name was. And thank you, the student has been pretty dedicated to the details on it. Hes being more thorough than I would have been. Any close ups of it would be appreciated if someone has them. I actually don't know what the panel is called on the orbiter. It's the connection points for the two T-0 umbilicals on the Mobile Launch Platform. One supplies LH2 and the other supplies LOX as well as electrical power. They detach and retract into the MLP immediately after the SRB's light. If you'd like you can read all about it here: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20090033695.pdf Anyway, here are the best images I was able to find on the web. I'll dig through my books here and see if there's anything better in them. Port side is on the left and starboard side is on the right, bottom edge of the OMS pods are at top in both images: The original photos had some photo editing done to correct all the 90° angles to actually 90° and they came up with this: Original images at George's Rocketry Page. Here's a pretty good view of the port side plate: Original Hi-Res Image And a good shot of the starboard side: Original Hi-Res Image |
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I actually don't know what the panel is called on the orbiter. It's the connection points for the two T-0 umbilicals on the Mobile Launch Platform. One supplies LH2 and the other supplies LOX as well as electrical power. They detach and retract into the MLP immediately after the SRB's light. If you'd like you can read all about it here: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20090033695.pdf Anyway, here are the best images I was able to find on the web. I'll dig through my books here and see if there's anything better in them. Port side is on the left and starboard side is on the right, bottom edge of the OMS pods are at top in both images: http://georgesrockets.com/grp/scale/Shuttle-G/Scale_Details/Umbilical_plate_pics.JPG The original photos had some photo editing done to correct all the 90° angles to actually 90° and they came up with this: http://georgesrockets.com/grp/scale/Shuttle-G/Scale_Details/Umbilical_test.GIF Original images at George's Rocketry Page. Here's a pretty good view of the port side plate: Original Hi-Res Image https://naturetime.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/ksc-shuttle-back.jpg And a good shot of the starboard side: Original Hi-Res Image https://jasonstravelsdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/space-shuttle-discovery-udvar-hazy-center-smithsonian-museum-washinton-dc.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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LH2 umbilical panel looking good there Guns! I was hoping you'd tell is what the proper name was. And thank you, the student has been pretty dedicated to the details on it. Hes being more thorough than I would have been. Any close ups of it would be appreciated if someone has them. I actually don't know what the panel is called on the orbiter. It's the connection points for the two T-0 umbilicals on the Mobile Launch Platform. One supplies LH2 and the other supplies LOX as well as electrical power. They detach and retract into the MLP immediately after the SRB's light. If you'd like you can read all about it here: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20090033695.pdf Anyway, here are the best images I was able to find on the web. I'll dig through my books here and see if there's anything better in them. Port side is on the left and starboard side is on the right, bottom edge of the OMS pods are at top in both images: http://georgesrockets.com/grp/scale/Shuttle-G/Scale_Details/Umbilical_plate_pics.JPG The original photos had some photo editing done to correct all the 90° angles to actually 90° and they came up with this: http://georgesrockets.com/grp/scale/Shuttle-G/Scale_Details/Umbilical_test.GIF Original images at George's Rocketry Page. Here's a pretty good view of the port side plate: Original Hi-Res Image https://naturetime.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/ksc-shuttle-back.jpg And a good shot of the starboard side: Original Hi-Res Image https://jasonstravelsdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/space-shuttle-discovery-udvar-hazy-center-smithsonian-museum-washinton-dc.jpg Perfect!!! Thank you! |
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