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View Quote No, it should become a tradition that the first spaceship of a line that is American made should be named Enterprise. |
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View Quote Fail. Not from today. Fail. |
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Quoted: Alright fellow space cadets. I’m in position for the day. Across the bay from the launch pad, ~15 miles. Weather is MUCH better today, some rain clouds but lots of blue sky. We’re going to catch rain over the afternoon but not the purple tornado death on Wednesday. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/428894/0FB2C740-B4CE-4CD7-9296-24CFF770C0DB_jpe-1439053.JPG View Quote That restaurant has excellent food! |
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Quoted: I don't think that the shuttle Enterprise was ever space worthy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: No, it should become a tradition that the first spaceship of a line that is American made should be named Enterprise. I don't think that the shuttle Enterprise was ever space worthy. Was only used as a test glider. Wasn't capable of spaceflight. Was supposed to be refitted to be capable eventually, but found to be too expensive. |
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I’m surprised at the number of you who weren’t watching the SpaceX feed.
Just go to spacex.com and click on a couple of links to go direct to their live YouTube feed (plays in the spacex.com window) Your comments about the other network feeds are exactly why I’d don’t watch them, with their continual interruption. |
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Quoted: I’m surprised at the number of you who weren’t watching the SpaceX feed. Just go to spacex.com and click on a couple of links to go direct to their live YouTube feed (plays in the spacex.com window) Your comments about the other network feeds are exactly why I’d don’t watch them, with their continual interruption. View Quote The NASA feed was also good. If you have a TV that allows you to stream and/or watch YouTube, there is literally no reason to watch a TV channel for coverage of this. |
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The ergonomics of the Dragon capsule strike me as a bit awkward.
Is it the camera angle(s)? Do they have any controls on the armrests? a HOTAS sort of thing? For as much as I use an iPhone and iPad I still find “mission critical” stuff better served by hard switches. I suspect it’s the same reason I prefer a manual over an automatic. If I have to I can MAKE it do what I want. But if software won’t cooperate incentivizing it with a hammer or crowbar still won’t help. == TOUR OF DRAGON CAPSULE “ENDEAVOR” Tour from Space: Inside the SpaceX Crew Dragon Spacecraft on Its Way to the Space Station |
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Happy to see my millennial generation accomplish at the fraction of cost and reusability of what the boomer generation could only do with bloated overspending at the taxpayers detriment, agency bureaucracy, and the inefficiency of the government sector.
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Quoted: Happy to see my millennial generation accomplish at the fraction of cost and reusability of what the boomer generation could only do with bloated overspending at the taxpayers detriment, agency bureaucracy, and the inefficiency of the government sector. View Quote My truck stereo used to have the only volume control on the touch screen. It was a pain in the ass to raise or lower the volume while moving. I'd hate to have to actual manage anything important that way. |
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Quoted: Happy to see my millennial generation accomplish at the fraction of cost and reusability of what the boomer generation could only do with bloated overspending at the taxpayers detriment, agency bureaucracy, and the inefficiency of the government sector. View Quote Ahem! Musk and Shotwell are Gen Xers. |
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Quoted: So, I'm no the only person who's inner narrator completed with '...McKenzie' every time an announcer said Bob and Doug. m View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Well done gentlemen and SpaceX, eh?! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57997/Bob_and_Doug_McKenzie_jpg-1439285.JPG m I'm still shocked I haven't seen memes with those two in space suits. |
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Quoted: I'm still shocked I haven't seen memes with those two in space suits. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well done gentlemen and SpaceX, eh?! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57997/Bob_and_Doug_McKenzie_jpg-1439285.JPG m I'm still shocked I haven't seen memes with those two in space suits. I'm wondering how long it's going to take for someone to put together a music video using scenes from today's launch and "Take Off" |
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Quoted: Quoted: Happy to see my millennial generation accomplish at the fraction of cost and reusability of what the boomer generation could only do with bloated overspending at the taxpayers detriment, agency bureaucracy, and the inefficiency of the government sector. Ahem! Musk and Shotwell are Gen Xers. Yeah I thought the same thing. I also think most this far along in their careers to build rockets are mostly gen x as well. |
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Elon Musk’s post-launch speech on Crew Demo-2 success, Starship and Moon Mission
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Quoted: I'm wondering how long it's going to take for someone to put together a music video using scenes from today's launch and "Take Off" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well done gentlemen and SpaceX, eh?! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57997/Bob_and_Doug_McKenzie_jpg-1439285.JPG m I'm still shocked I haven't seen memes with those two in space suits. I'm wondering how long it's going to take for someone to put together a music video using scenes from today's launch and "Take Off" Synch it up to where Gaddy Lee sings "Take Off" right along with the lift off. That would rock. |
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Quoted: My truck stereo used to have the only volume control on the touch screen. It was a pain in the ass to raise or lower the volume while moving. I'd hate to have to actual manage anything important that way. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Happy to see my millennial generation accomplish at the fraction of cost and reusability of what the boomer generation could only do with bloated overspending at the taxpayers detriment, agency bureaucracy, and the inefficiency of the government sector. My truck stereo used to have the only volume control on the touch screen. It was a pain in the ass to raise or lower the volume while moving. I'd hate to have to actual manage anything important that way. My understanding is that - unless something really unexpected happens - the crew on a mission like this are essentially just fragile cargo. |
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Quoted: Who just built upon the efforts of.......wait for it.......boomers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yeah I thought the same thing. I also think most this far along in their careers to build rockets are mostly gen x as well. Who just built upon the efforts of.......wait for it.......boomers. Who built upon the efforts of the greatest generation and the Nazis. |
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Wow. It really is a pretty small rocket. What a great show. I wish they hadn't "lost the feed" just before it landed.
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Here is my view of the later landing of the first stage
Seems like the drone ship landings are often around 8:30 (min:sec). I will check a Cargo Dragon press kit. CRS-20 - 8:17. MECO: 2:18 CRS-18 - 8:23. MECO: 2:18 CRS-17 - 8:27. MECO: 2:17 Crew Demo-1 - 9:52 Interesting. MECO: 2:35 Here is my guess. The lighter Crew Dragon versus Cargo Dragon means that the Crew Dragon first stage ends up higher than during a Cargo Dragon flight. That translates into a longer fall and hence a later landing of the first stage. |
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View Quote Hey look, there's part of the first SLS actually in the VAB! |
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Quoted: Here is my view of the later landing of the first stage Seems like the drone ship landings are often around 8:30 (min:sec). I will check a Cargo Dragon press kit. CRS-20 - 8:17. MECO: 2:18 CRS-18 - 8:23. MECO: 2:18 CRS-17 - 8:27. MECO: 2:17 Crew Demo-1 - 9:52 Interesting. MECO: 2:35 Here is my guess. The lighter Crew Dragon versus Cargo Dragon means that the Crew Dragon first stage ends up higher than during a Cargo Dragon flight. That translates into a longer fall and hence a later landing of the first stage. View Quote Have they said how far downrange this first stage landed? And how far do the usually go when they land on the drone ship? |
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Quoted: Happy to see my millennial generation accomplish at the fraction of cost and reusability of what the boomer generation could only do with bloated overspending at the taxpayers detriment, agency bureaucracy, and the inefficiency of the government sector. View Quote Since the first boomer was born in 1946, Mercury, Gemini, and all the development work on Apollo were all done before the first boomer graduated college. They had nothing to do with the development of manned space. I don't know any engineers who developed the Ford Trimotor, but I am quite certain none of them put down the achievement of the Wright Brothers. |
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Quoted: During the cold war, the Soviets cheated with the French on judged events in the Olympics. You're probably too young to understand. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Because the Russians are so good at landing their boosters in a recoverable manner? Nick During the cold war, the Soviets cheated with the French on judged events in the Olympics. You're probably too young to understand. Nick |
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Quoted: SpaceX seems to be doing a great job of keeping costs down. If Boeing was doing this they would probably have a barge the size of a Nimitz class carrier which would never leave port. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I want SpaceX to buy a bigger barge. Perhaps an automated factory ship of some sort that would begin prepping the section for another launch not long after it lands. EVERYTHING else will go up on a BFR. And the BFR boosters will return to dry land. SpaceX seems to be doing a great job of keeping costs down. If Boeing was doing this they would probably have a barge the size of a Nimitz class carrier which would never leave port. That's what happens when private enterprise is allowed to do what needs to be done. Provided society holds together, I think we might be witnessing the beginnings of the true Space Age. |
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Quoted: Have they said how far downrange this first stage landed? And how far do the usually go when they land on the drone ship? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Here is my view of the later landing of the first stage Seems like the drone ship landings are often around 8:30 (min:sec). I will check a Cargo Dragon press kit. CRS-20 - 8:17. MECO: 2:18 CRS-18 - 8:23. MECO: 2:18 CRS-17 - 8:27. MECO: 2:17 Crew Demo-1 - 9:52 Interesting. MECO: 2:35 Here is my guess. The lighter Crew Dragon versus Cargo Dragon means that the Crew Dragon first stage ends up higher than during a Cargo Dragon flight. That translates into a longer fall and hence a later landing of the first stage. Have they said how far downrange this first stage landed? And how far do the usually go when they land on the drone ship? ~600 miles |
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Drove over to see the launch. Also caught AirForce 1 leaving the scene from Coconuts at dinner.
Today was a good day. |
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Quoted: The ergonomics of the Dragon capsule strike me as a bit awkward. Is it the camera angle(s)? Do they have any controls on the armrests? a HOTAS sort of thing? For as much as I use an iPhone and iPad I still find “mission critical” stuff better served by hard switches. I suspect it’s the same reason I prefer a manual over an automatic. If I have to I can MAKE it do what I want. But if software won’t cooperate incentivizing it with a hammer or crowbar still won’t help. == TOUR OF DRAGON CAPSULE “ENDEAVOR” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llbIzbOStt4 View Quote The hard switches are under the flat screens. There’s a t-handle joystick between panels. The critical things necessary have real switches. It is beautifully simple, but 100% functional |
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Quoted: My understanding is that - unless something really unexpected happens - the crew on a mission like this are essentially just fragile cargo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Happy to see my millennial generation accomplish at the fraction of cost and reusability of what the boomer generation could only do with bloated overspending at the taxpayers detriment, agency bureaucracy, and the inefficiency of the government sector. My truck stereo used to have the only volume control on the touch screen. It was a pain in the ass to raise or lower the volume while moving. I'd hate to have to actual manage anything important that way. My understanding is that - unless something really unexpected happens - the crew on a mission like this are essentially just fragile cargo. That's supposedly how the scientists and engineers viewed the Mercury astronauts. |
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Quoted: That's supposedly how the scientists and engineers viewed the Mercury astronauts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Happy to see my millennial generation accomplish at the fraction of cost and reusability of what the boomer generation could only do with bloated overspending at the taxpayers detriment, agency bureaucracy, and the inefficiency of the government sector. My truck stereo used to have the only volume control on the touch screen. It was a pain in the ass to raise or lower the volume while moving. I'd hate to have to actual manage anything important that way. My understanding is that - unless something really unexpected happens - the crew on a mission like this are essentially just fragile cargo. That's supposedly how the scientists and engineers viewed the Mercury astronauts. If "The Right Stuff" is any indicator, indeed. Pilots have a way of developing skepticism of what engineers tell them not to worry about, usually out of hard earned experience. |
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Quoted: Do they have any controls on the armrests? a HOTAS sort of thing? View Quote i dont think it has a stick per se. they have basic attitude and translation controls for manual docking and what have you but i think they are touch screen. supposedly the spacex docking game on their website is somewhat representative of the interface though the physics in it are pretty shitty. Its not an airplane with a throttle and stick, they are mostly ballistic except when executing predetermined maneuvers. they kinda explained it in the tour of the spacecraft, most of the mechanical devices and switches are basically hard abort and contingency things. they're travelling 5 miles a second in a straight(ish) line there's not enough fuel on the spacecraft to do much else. |
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wake-up call was Black Sabbath's "Planet Caravan"
Planet Caravan - Black Sabbath |
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Since these guys took off I drank a bunch of beer, made a turkey dinner, watched 2 movies, slept all night, and did some arfcomming with coffee.
I couldn't imagine being stuck in that damn capsule the whole time lol |
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