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Posted: 7/21/2018 1:56:19 AM EST
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Well this thread made me start watching the series. I love SW and not sure why I haven't tuned in before. I'm watching it in chronological order instead of by season. I'll probably be binge watching them on my days off. Is Rebels worth watching too?
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Posted: 7/21/2018 2:54:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What the hell. According to that list they aren't even numbered in order? Why are the jumbled like that Rebels was good too but it's aimed more at younger audiences. |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 6:30:52 AM EST
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Great video on Ashoka vs Rey.
Another comparison that is similar is between Rex and Finn, we even though Rex is "just a clone" we appreciate that he develops into much more over time, especially in rebels. Then there is the super shitty "strong female character" of captain Phasma. |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 7:04:08 AM EST
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She had to become a strong character, she did not just appear and automatically have skills...she got her ass whooped a lot of times, grievous and ventress straight up tuned her up, her style was flawed, she was scared, she knew whe was outmatched and she was weak. They made her great, by not overdoing it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Exactly. Ashley Eckstein, the voice of Ahsoka, said yesterday during the panel that one thing that makes Ahsoka endearing is the fact that she has actual character development from a snotty brat to a seasoned and respected warrior. The audience’s reaction toward the character changed correspondingly from one of hatred to loving the character, and Eckstein said this was in large part due to the time taken to carefully develop the character over the years. As she was saying this, Filoni nodded in agreement. It’s clear that they knew the basic concept of the hero’s journey and applied it well. You get none of this in the new trilogy. Rey is just a badass because she is female, and the male characters are stupid and flawed because they are men. It’s poor, lazy, and sexist writing that has turned off most of the fanbase, and for good reason. They made her great, by not overdoing it. |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 7:11:39 AM EST
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Clone Wars pretty much sucks.
Got all excited by this thread to watch it. Hit Netflix and got the list of true chronological order. First episode: season 2, episode 16. What the Fuck. Next session 1, episode 16 Then a movie, Then season 2 episode something No intros, no crawl text, just a bunch of nameless cartoon actors.I recognize obi,I think that's skywalkerbut doesn't look out sound like him. I am not sure where your enthusiasm comes from. Who the Fuck releases movies in this tossed salad configuration?! This is why I dropped it the first time, it's confusing as fuck and hard to understand what's going on cause it's so disjointed. I'm going to grind through a grew more episodes but it's painful to start each one wondering what the hell is going on |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 7:24:18 AM EST
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Clone Wars pretty much sucks. Got all excited by this thread to watch it. Hit Netflix and got the list of true chronological order. First episode: season 2, episode 16. What the Fuck. Next session 1, episode 16 Then a movie, Then season 2 episode something No intros, no crawl text, just a bunch of nameless cartoon actors.I recognize obi,I think that's skywalkerbut doesn't look out sound like him. I am not sure where your enthusiasm comes from. Who the Fuck releases movies in this tossed salad configuration?! This is why I dropped it the first time, it's confusing as fuck and hard to understand what's going on cause it's so disjointed. I'm going to grind through a grew more episodes but it's painful to start each one wondering what the hell is going on |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 7:39:50 AM EST
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Clone Wars pretty much sucks. Got all excited by this thread to watch it. Hit Netflix and got the list of true chronological order. First episode: season 2, episode 16. What the Fuck. Next session 1, episode 16 Then a movie, Then season 2 episode something No intros, no crawl text, just a bunch of nameless cartoon actors.I recognize obi,I think that's skywalkerbut doesn't look out sound like him. I am not sure where your enthusiasm comes from. Who the Fuck releases movies in this tossed salad configuration?! This is why I dropped it the first time, it's confusing as fuck and hard to understand what's going on cause it's so disjointed. I'm going to grind through a grew more episodes but it's painful to start each one wondering what the hell is going on |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 7:41:59 AM EST
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Well this thread made me start watching the series. I love SW and not sure why I haven't tuned in before. I'm watching it in chronological order instead of by season. I'll probably be binge watching them on my days off. Is Rebels worth watching too? |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 7:44:20 AM EST
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Can't watch it now that I know it ends with Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight, sucking a seacow tit and evaporating like a fart. |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 7:54:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, I saw Starwars day one when it first came out. Now it’s dead to me. |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 9:53:06 AM EST
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As I said earlier in the thread, TCW starts off a bit rough. The animation kinda sucked and it was more childish. It’s a show that rewards those who keep watching past the first season. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Clone Wars pretty much sucks. Got all excited by this thread to watch it. Hit Netflix and got the list of true chronological order. First episode: season 2, episode 16. What the Fuck. Next session 1, episode 16 Then a movie, Then season 2 episode something No intros, no crawl text, just a bunch of nameless cartoon actors.I recognize obi,I think that's skywalkerbut doesn't look out sound like him. I am not sure where your enthusiasm comes from. Who the Fuck releases movies in this tossed salad configuration?! This is why I dropped it the first time, it's confusing as fuck and hard to understand what's going on cause it's so disjointed. I'm going to grind through a grew more episodes but it's painful to start each one wondering what the hell is going on |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 10:11:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just watched it how it came up on Netflix. I had no problem following it |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 11:22:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But he has so much skin!t |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 11:23:16 AM EST
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thanks creepio Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/21/2018 11:53:25 AM EST
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I’ve wondered why they wrote them out of chronological order. Maybe there were production issues on some of the earlier episodes, or they just decided to fill in the gaps later. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I just watched it how it came up on Netflix. I had no problem following it |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:05:15 PM EST
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You sound like a real fun person to hang around and play lightsabers with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Clone Wars pretty much sucks. Got all excited by this thread to watch it. Hit Netflix and got the list of true chronological order. First episode: season 2, episode 16. What the Fuck. Next session 1, episode 16 Then a movie, Then season 2 episode something No intros, no crawl text, just a bunch of nameless cartoon actors.I recognize obi,I think that's skywalkerbut doesn't look out sound like him. I am not sure where your enthusiasm comes from. Who the Fuck releases movies in this tossed salad configuration?! This is why I dropped it the first time, it's confusing as fuck and hard to understand what's going on cause it's so disjointed. I'm going to grind through a grew more episodes but it's painful to start each one wondering what the hell is going on It's just irritating, even the wife kept saying "who is this person" "what's going on?!" None of us knew cause you literally start with season 2 ep16, so you're just dropped in the middle of it and not a clue what's happening. It's making it Super hard to engage with. It's just a piss poor way to deliver any serialized show. The damn Simpson's deliver every episode in order, on time, for decades |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:36:12 PM EST
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Ahsoka vs Rey
Ahsoka = would serve under Rey = would smash Watch order IV, V, II, TCW shorts anime (CN original), III, VI, TCW series, Rogue One, Rebels, then pick your poison if you must |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:43:06 PM EST
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:44:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY LIGHT SABER!! It's just irritating, even the wife kept saying "who is this person" "what's going on?!" None of us knew cause you literally start with season 2 ep16, so you're just dropped in the middle of it and not a clue what's happening. It's making it Super hard to engage with. It's just a piss poor way to deliver any serialized show. The damn Simpson's deliver every episode in order, on time, for decades |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:45:45 PM EST
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Possible. I'm pretty sure that type of animation doesn't come cheap 
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:54:19 PM EST
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It doesn’t. Heard somewhere it cost over a million dollars per episode to animate it, or something ridiculous like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Possible. I'm pretty sure that type of animation doesn't come cheap 
It took me a while to get into that type of animation. I remember when it was on tv and just couldn't watch it. Decided about a month ago to force myself to watch it. Said if I can get through 4-5 episodes I think I could finally get into it. Glad I stuck it out. |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 1:11:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn’t. Heard somewhere it cost over a million dollars per episode to animate it, or something ridiculous like that. |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 1:22:48 PM EST
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Clone Wars pretty much sucks. Got all excited by this thread to watch it. Hit Netflix and got the list of true chronological order. First episode: season 2, episode 16. What the Fuck. Next session 1, episode 16 Then a movie, Then season 2 episode something No intros, no crawl text, just a bunch of nameless cartoon actors.I recognize obi,I think that's skywalkerbut doesn't look out sound like him. I am not sure where your enthusiasm comes from. Who the Fuck releases movies in this tossed salad configuration?! This is why I dropped it the first time, it's confusing as fuck and hard to understand what's going on cause it's so disjointed. I'm going to grind through a grew more episodes but it's painful to start each one wondering what the hell is going on |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 1:26:51 PM EST
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George Lucas said a million per episode for everything, not just animation. That's actually towards the low end of quality tv episodes, including live action. Either way, the new trailer looks pretty good. I wonder if they got the old animation company to do it. |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 2:31:29 PM EST
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You sound like a real fun person to hang around and play lightsabers with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Clone Wars pretty much sucks. Got all excited by this thread to watch it. Hit Netflix and got the list of true chronological order. First episode: season 2, episode 16. What the Fuck. Next session 1, episode 16 Then a movie, Then season 2 episode something No intros, no crawl text, just a bunch of nameless cartoon actors.I recognize obi,I think that's skywalkerbut doesn't look out sound like him. I am not sure where your enthusiasm comes from. Who the Fuck releases movies in this tossed salad configuration?! This is why I dropped it the first time, it's confusing as fuck and hard to understand what's going on cause it's so disjointed. I'm going to grind through a grew more episodes but it's painful to start each one wondering what the hell is going on |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 10:35:59 PM EST
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One of the funnier (and more accurate) memes to come out of the last few days:
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Posted: 7/22/2018 10:53:08 PM EST
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Why on Earth would you watch them out of release order? I went to Netflix, started on season 1, episode 1, and hit play. Everything makes sense to me Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Clone Wars pretty much sucks. Got all excited by this thread to watch it. Hit Netflix and got the list of true chronological order. First episode: season 2, episode 16. What the Fuck. Next session 1, episode 16 Then a movie, Then season 2 episode something No intros, no crawl text, just a bunch of nameless cartoon actors.I recognize obi,I think that's skywalkerbut doesn't look out sound like him. I am not sure where your enthusiasm comes from. Who the Fuck releases movies in this tossed salad configuration?! This is why I dropped it the first time, it's confusing as fuck and hard to understand what's going on cause it's so disjointed. I'm going to grind through a grew more episodes but it's painful to start each one wondering what the hell is going on What do I know? Edit to add: maybe I'll just watch in release order and hope it all works out |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 11:38:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Serious star wars nerds told me to! What do I know? Edit to add: maybe I'll just watch in release order and hope it all works out |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 11:46:48 PM EST
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It’s what I did. Worked just fine for me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/23/2018 12:43:32 AM EST
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Me too. I didn't know there was a different order for them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Serious star wars nerds told me to! What do I know? Edit to add: maybe I'll just watch in release order and hope it all works out I didn't know there was a different order for them. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 7:22:21 AM EST
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Ahsoka vs Rey Ahsoka = would serve under Rey = would smash Watch order IV, V, II, TCW shorts anime (CN original), III, VI, TCW series, Rogue One, Rebels, then pick your poison if you must Eh, let me rephrase, Grown up Ahsoka is hot. (From the Rebels series) |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 7:24:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey Ahsoka is hot despite her orange skin a tentacle hair! Eh, let me rephrase, Grown up Ahsoka is hot. 
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Posted: 7/23/2018 7:44:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless you mean Rebels Ahsoka, she’s like 16 in the later seasons. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 8:37:39 AM EST
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Just saw the trailer on YT and came straight here to see if there was a thread started. Forgive me if this has already been asked, but is there any speculation as to who was standing beside Anakin at the end, with the long dark hair, red bandanna and jetpack on?
My favorite characters were Ahsoka (obviously) and Grievous. Asajj Ventress was also fun to watch after reading Dark Disciple (I've watched the entire series twice now, beginning to end). Maul and Savage were also fun to see come to life. I assume the lost missions will be finished and included in this new series? |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 8:40:09 AM EST
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Serious star wars nerds told me to! What do I know? Edit to add: maybe I'll just watch in release order and hope it all works out Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Clone Wars pretty much sucks. Got all excited by this thread to watch it. Hit Netflix and got the list of true chronological order. First episode: season 2, episode 16. What the Fuck. Next session 1, episode 16 Then a movie, Then season 2 episode something No intros, no crawl text, just a bunch of nameless cartoon actors.I recognize obi,I think that's skywalkerbut doesn't look out sound like him. I am not sure where your enthusiasm comes from. Who the Fuck releases movies in this tossed salad configuration?! This is why I dropped it the first time, it's confusing as fuck and hard to understand what's going on cause it's so disjointed. I'm going to grind through a grew more episodes but it's painful to start each one wondering what the hell is going on What do I know? Edit to add: maybe I'll just watch in release order and hope it all works out |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 9:12:46 AM EST
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Just saw the trailer on YT and came straight here to see if there was a thread started. Forgive me if this has already been asked, but is there any speculation as to who was standing beside Anakin at the end, with the long dark hair, red bandanna and jetpack on? My favorite characters were Ahsoka (obviously) and Grievous. Asajj Ventress was also fun to watch after reading Dark Disciple (I've watched the entire series twice now, beginning to end). Maul and Savage were also fun to see come to life. I assume the lost missions will be finished and included in this new series? Bad Batch playlist There was also the Crystal Crisis, which involved some of the funniest moments in the series IMO:  Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Season 6 ALL STORY REELS 1-4 HD 1080p As for what we will be seeing in the new episodes, I’m not sure. We will for sure be seeing The Siege of Mandalore, which was supposed to be the series finale (you can see Bo Katan and Ahsoka in the trailer, which points to this being true). We aren’t sure if we will see Crystal Crisis or the Bad Batch episodes yet, or something else entirely since there were other story arcs completed. I don’t think we will see the Son of Dathomir or the Maul arcs because those were already completed in a novel and a comic book. We also don’t know if the episodes will be 20 or 45 minutes long (would be AWESOME if it was the latter). There just isn’t much info out there, but I’ll try to keep this thread alive so we can talk about it when we learn more and when the series comes out. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 9:16:34 AM EST
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He’s Sergeant Hunter, one of the guys from the Bad Batch, which involved a group of mutated clones who formed a special forces unit. The unfinished animation is on YouTube: Bad Batch playlist There was also the Crystal Crisis, which involved some of the funniest moments in the series IMO:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pWKXyPZm2cAs for what we will be seeing in the new episodes, I’m not sure. We will for sure be seeing The Siege is Mandalore, which was supposed to be the series finale (you can see Bo Katan and Ahsoka in the trailer, which points to this being true). We aren’t sure if we will see Crystal Crisis or the Bad Batch episodes yet, or something else entirely. We also don’t know if the episodes will be 20 or 45 minutes long (would be AWESOME if it was the latter). There just isn’t much info out there, but I’ll try to keep this thread alive so we can talk about it when we learn more and when the series comes out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just saw the trailer on YT and came straight here to see if there was a thread started. Forgive me if this has already been asked, but is there any speculation as to who was standing beside Anakin at the end, with the long dark hair, red bandanna and jetpack on? My favorite characters were Ahsoka (obviously) and Grievous. Asajj Ventress was also fun to watch after reading Dark Disciple (I've watched the entire series twice now, beginning to end). Maul and Savage were also fun to see come to life. I assume the lost missions will be finished and included in this new series? Bad Batch playlist There was also the Crystal Crisis, which involved some of the funniest moments in the series IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pWKXyPZm2cAs for what we will be seeing in the new episodes, I’m not sure. We will for sure be seeing The Siege is Mandalore, which was supposed to be the series finale (you can see Bo Katan and Ahsoka in the trailer, which points to this being true). We aren’t sure if we will see Crystal Crisis or the Bad Batch episodes yet, or something else entirely. We also don’t know if the episodes will be 20 or 45 minutes long (would be AWESOME if it was the latter). There just isn’t much info out there, but I’ll try to keep this thread alive so we can talk about it when we learn more and when the series comes out. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 9:18:32 AM EST
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Ah, ok. Thanks. I've watched all the lost missions but only once so my memory is fuzzy on them. I'll go back and watch them again this weekend. I hope that by seeing Disney bring TCW back to life maybe we could get an extension on Rebels? I watched the next to last episode of Rebels this morning so I only have the last episode of S4 of Rebels left to watch and I don't want it to end. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just saw the trailer on YT and came straight here to see if there was a thread started. Forgive me if this has already been asked, but is there any speculation as to who was standing beside Anakin at the end, with the long dark hair, red bandanna and jetpack on? My favorite characters were Ahsoka (obviously) and Grievous. Asajj Ventress was also fun to watch after reading Dark Disciple (I've watched the entire series twice now, beginning to end). Maul and Savage were also fun to see come to life. I assume the lost missions will be finished and included in this new series? Bad Batch playlist There was also the Crystal Crisis, which involved some of the funniest moments in the series IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pWKXyPZm2cAs for what we will be seeing in the new episodes, I’m not sure. We will for sure be seeing The Siege is Mandalore, which was supposed to be the series finale (you can see Bo Katan and Ahsoka in the trailer, which points to this being true). We aren’t sure if we will see Crystal Crisis or the Bad Batch episodes yet, or something else entirely. We also don’t know if the episodes will be 20 or 45 minutes long (would be AWESOME if it was the latter). There just isn’t much info out there, but I’ll try to keep this thread alive so we can talk about it when we learn more and when the series comes out. 
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Posted: 7/25/2018 9:24:30 AM EST
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Well, I won’t spoil Rebels for you, but suffice to say I don’t think at least some of the characters’ stories are over yet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just saw the trailer on YT and came straight here to see if there was a thread started. Forgive me if this has already been asked, but is there any speculation as to who was standing beside Anakin at the end, with the long dark hair, red bandanna and jetpack on? My favorite characters were Ahsoka (obviously) and Grievous. Asajj Ventress was also fun to watch after reading Dark Disciple (I've watched the entire series twice now, beginning to end). Maul and Savage were also fun to see come to life. I assume the lost missions will be finished and included in this new series? Bad Batch playlist There was also the Crystal Crisis, which involved some of the funniest moments in the series IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pWKXyPZm2cAs for what we will be seeing in the new episodes, I’m not sure. We will for sure be seeing The Siege is Mandalore, which was supposed to be the series finale (you can see Bo Katan and Ahsoka in the trailer, which points to this being true). We aren’t sure if we will see Crystal Crisis or the Bad Batch episodes yet, or something else entirely. We also don’t know if the episodes will be 20 or 45 minutes long (would be AWESOME if it was the latter). There just isn’t much info out there, but I’ll try to keep this thread alive so we can talk about it when we learn more and when the series comes out. I know what I'm doing on my lunch break now
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Posted: 7/25/2018 9:55:59 AM EST
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Good. I know what I'm doing on my lunch break now |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 10:04:25 AM EST
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I thought Clone Wars sucked.
Tried and tried and tried. Terrible writing. They needed MILITARY ADVISORS so it wouldn't be stupid. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 10:07:27 AM EST
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Clone Wars pretty much sucks. Got all excited by this thread to watch it. Hit Netflix and got the list of true chronological order. First episode: season 2, episode 16. What the Fuck. Next session 1, episode 16 Then a movie, Then season 2 episode something No intros, no crawl text, just a bunch of nameless cartoon actors.I recognize obi,I think that's skywalkerbut doesn't look out sound like him. I am not sure where your enthusiasm comes from. Who the Fuck releases movies in this tossed salad configuration?! This is why I dropped it the first time, it's confusing as fuck and hard to understand what's going on cause it's so disjointed. I'm going to grind through a grew more episodes but it's painful to start each one wondering what the hell is going on |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 12:11:13 PM EST
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I thought Clone Wars sucked. Tried and tried and tried. Terrible writing. They needed MILITARY ADVISORS so it wouldn't be stupid. 
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Posted: 7/25/2018 12:20:12 PM EST
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Posted: 7/25/2018 12:21:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You didn’t want to watch an episode where Fives went to sexual harassment training, while Heavy got stuck redoing the weekend safety brief PowerPoint? 
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Posted: 7/25/2018 1:04:50 PM EST
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I thought Clone Wars sucked. Tried and tried and tried. Terrible writing. They needed MILITARY ADVISORS so it wouldn't be stupid.
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Posted: 7/25/2018 1:09:55 PM EST
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I think you’ll be satisfied. My wife hasn’t seen the finale, and we have just made our way through the series ourselves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/25/2018 1:20:18 PM EST
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You didn’t want to watch an episode where Fives went to sexual harassment training, while Heavy got stuck redoing the weekend safety brief PowerPoint? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/25/2018 1:32:06 PM EST
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Just watched it. They can't leave it like that, there has to be a revival... |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 3:32:28 PM EST
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You didn’t want to watch an episode where Fives went to sexual harassment training, while Heavy got stuck redoing the weekend safety brief PowerPoint? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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