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Posted: 3/2/2020 11:56:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.scribd.com/document/449771442/3-2-2020-Supreme-Court-Orders read the "statement" towards the bottom. |
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Posted: 3/2/2020 12:06:02 PM EDT
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https://www.scribd.com/document/449771442/3-2-2020-Supreme-Court-Orders read the "statement" towards the bottom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/2/2020 12:10:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks promising. Somebody's paying attention. |
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Posted: 3/2/2020 12:17:42 PM EDT
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https://www.scribd.com/document/449771442/3-2-2020-Supreme-Court-Orders read the "statement" towards the bottom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Today read the "statement" towards the bottom. Thanks NOLO. |
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Posted: 3/2/2020 12:19:55 PM EDT
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There is still hope but GOD DAMN it would be nice if we could get Ginsburg out of there.
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Posted: 3/2/2020 12:22:28 PM EDT
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Looks promising. Somebody's paying attention. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/2/2020 12:33:14 PM EDT
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Gorsuch just told the lower appellate courts "this is how you decide this, don't screw it up." Hopefully they'll get the message. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: https://www.scribd.com/document/449771442/3-2-2020-Supreme-Court-Orders read the "statement" towards the bottom. Hopefully they'll get the message. So, am I wrong? |
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Posted: 3/2/2020 12:34:31 PM EDT
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Why is a case like this even debatable?
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Posted: 3/2/2020 12:46:37 PM EDT
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Why is a case like this even debatable? |
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Posted: 3/2/2020 1:17:30 PM EDT
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Chevron is a dead precedence walking. We have a majority of justices now with a justice boner to smack it with.
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Posted: 3/2/2020 2:48:42 PM EDT
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https://www.scribd.com/document/449771442/3-2-2020-Supreme-Court-Orders read the "statement" towards the bottom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/2/2020 5:47:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.scribd.com/document/449771442/3-2-2020-Supreme-Court-Orders read the "statement" towards the bottom. |
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Posted: 3/2/2020 6:06:02 PM EDT
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The 2A is in the bill of rights, the rights listed are both individual and collective rights, but they are all individual rights. What the hell is so hard.
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Posted: 3/3/2020 5:42:01 PM EDT
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So even if the Bumpstock ban gets overturned,what is going to happen?
The company is already out of business,the vast majority of them have been destroyed,and how many states have banned them as well. Guess you could 3D print your own,because I don't see a company starting to make them again..... |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 11:51:30 PM EDT
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So even if the Bumpstock ban gets overturned,what is going to happen? The company is already out of business,the vast majority of them have been destroyed,and how many states have banned them as well. Guess you could 3D print your own,because I don't see a company starting to make them again..... 
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Posted: 3/4/2020 1:51:52 AM EDT
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Yet somehow a right to privacy, implying a right to an abortion at certain gestational periods, somehow is interpreted out of this: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While not entirely relevant, this article does mention this case. The Mysterious Meaning of the Second Amendment Even with the help of powerful 21st-century linguistic databases, the phrase "keep and bear arms" remains debatable. I know what that article is saying but they try to get too specific because that phrase means BOTH to keep and bear arms for (1) personal, individual purposes and (2) for militia purposes. Plus, the reason for BOTH purposes is simply to guard against tyranny, lawlessness and foreign invasion. The fact that people have chosen to disregard that plain meaning is because they have political and ideological motives that run contrary to it. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. 
It's the penumbras man, all about the penumbras 
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Posted: 3/4/2020 6:58:55 AM EDT
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So even if the Bumpstock ban gets overturned,what is going to happen? The company is already out of business,the vast majority of them have been destroyed,and how many states have banned them as well. Guess you could 3D print your own,because I don't see a company starting to make them again..... 
About the same % as if there would be a mandatory turn in. 
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Posted: 3/12/2020 7:46:10 PM EDT
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Supreme court building closed to public until further notice.
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Posted: 3/16/2020 10:44:34 AM EDT
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Supreme Court to postpone March arguments
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Posted: 3/16/2020 10:49:35 AM EDT
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Supreme Court to postpone March arguments |
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Posted: 3/16/2020 10:51:42 AM EDT
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that's fine, they should have all kinds of time to push cuomo's shit in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/16/2020 12:29:58 PM EDT
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Supreme court building closed to public until further notice. Congress should actually pass a law mandating that all federal court proceedings will be televised. |
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Posted: 3/16/2020 1:39:10 PM EDT
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This is why all SCOTUS cases should be televised - then they could continue normal business & there is no need to allow the general public into the gallery. Congress should actually pass a law mandating that all federal court proceedings will be televised. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Supreme court building closed to public until further notice. Congress should actually pass a law mandating that all federal court proceedings will be televised. Kharn |
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Posted: 3/16/2020 8:34:15 PM EDT
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The Court has refused television cameras as advocates would then sell their case to popular opinion rather than stick to judicial principles. The 9th Circuit videos their hearings and look what bullshit they get. The SC audio records arguments and releases the recordings on Fridays (so soundbites can't be used in that evening's news cycle), while transcripts are available within 8 hours of the arguement. Kharn Plus it is not widely distributed because almost nobody listens to the audio (& even less read the transcripts), whereas if it was televised live there would be millions of people watching & even more DVRing it for later. The 9th Circus is the way it is because of liberal activist judges - The Turtle finally ended the (blue slip) process of getting approval from the senators in that state prior to bringing a nominee to the floor. Up until now the only judges on the left coast that could get a floor vote were liberal activists - the 9th circus is finally being changed. |
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Posted: 3/16/2020 10:58:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More likely it is because they don't want the general public to see in real time who is not paying attention, & how the crypt-keeper is asleep on the bench for the entire day. Plus it is not widely distributed because almost nobody listens to the audio (& even less read the transcripts), whereas if it was televised live there would be millions of people watching & even more DVRing it for later. The 9th Circus is the way it is because of liberal activist judges - The Turtle finally ended the (blue slip) process of getting approval from the senators in that state prior to bringing a nominee to the floor. Up until now the only judges on the left coast that could get a floor vote were liberal activists - the 9th circus is finally being changed. |
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Posted: 3/16/2020 11:06:14 PM EDT
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I attended NYSRPA in person, and watching Ginsburg leave the bench at the end was hilarious. Everyone stood there for a good 15-20 seconds and just watched her slowly turn around and walk out the back. It took what seemed like FOREVER. I don't think they'd want that televised.
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Posted: 3/16/2020 11:12:41 PM EDT
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I attended NYSRPA in person, and watching Ginsburg leave the bench at the end was hilarious. Everyone stood there for a good 15-20 seconds and just watched her slowly turn around and walk out the back. It took what seemed like FOREVER. I don't think they'd want that televised.
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Posted: 3/16/2020 11:16:33 PM EDT
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she was obviously not well, she made some comments during the arguments that were almost not anti-gun. |
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Posted: 3/17/2020 9:01:01 PM EDT
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So there's a recent order for a preliminary injunction on the 3D printed gun files case, which starts to dabble in the same rulemaking stuff that impacts the bumpstock case. Any of you lawyers check this out yet, and/or have a read on what impact it may have on the bumpstock case?
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/3DGuns-PInj.pdf Feel free to tell me to go away if this is too far afield from the NYSPRA case and I'll go play in a corner somewhere. |
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Posted: 3/20/2020 12:56:31 AM EDT
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I have a bad feeling ChinaVirus is going to fuck us on this
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Posted: 3/20/2020 10:32:05 AM EDT
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I have a bad feeling ChinaVirus is going to fuck us on this |
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Posted: 3/20/2020 10:43:18 AM EDT
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Yeah.. really hope Ginsburg doesnt get it,she's so old and frail.. dont think she'd survive.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a bad feeling ChinaVirus is going to fuck us on this |
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Posted: 3/20/2020 12:32:18 PM EDT
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Yeah.. really hope Ginsburg doesnt get it,she's so old and frail.. dont think she'd survive.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a bad feeling ChinaVirus is going to fuck us on this |
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Posted: 3/20/2020 12:44:10 PM EDT
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I have little faith that the black robes will defend the constitution. 
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Posted: 3/20/2020 12:48:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They could, but the court has already voted to take the case. |
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Posted: 3/20/2020 1:04:14 PM EDT
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she was obviously not well, she made some comments during the arguments that were almost not anti-gun. |
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Posted: 3/20/2020 1:34:46 PM EDT
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That bitch will survive Armageddon. The only thing that will be left is her and cockroaches. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a bad feeling ChinaVirus is going to fuck us on this |
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Posted: 3/20/2020 1:38:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get real. Get real. |
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Posted: 3/20/2020 1:46:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think otherwise? Forget the 5-4 votes on Heller and McDonald? That we were one vote away from a decision that the right to keep and bear arms was a collective right, not a personal one? Get real. |
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Posted: 3/20/2020 1:49:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude, we won and you still think we are doomed and all is lost. Being a Doom and Gloom Nancy does not make it so. You are no prophet. Me pointing out that your comment was at best naive and worst moronic does not mean I think we're doomed. Anything else you want to grossly extrapolate out of the one sentence I made? |
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Posted: 3/20/2020 7:26:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thomas is no spring chicken either Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have a bad feeling ChinaVirus is going to fuck us on this Yeah.. really hope Ginsburg doesnt get it,she's so old and frail.. dont think she'd survive.. Thomas is no spring chicken either Or Breyer. |
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Posted: 3/21/2020 12:59:50 PM EDT
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All justices are healthy, orders coming Monday morning.
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Posted: 3/21/2020 2:05:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe I’m wrong, but I read that as saying in cases of constitutional rights the whole “Interpretation” of statute thing can only go so far. So, am I wrong? You’re not wrong. He’s saying Chevron deference does not apply to interpreting a criminal statute. He may also be saying that a criminal statute can be unconstitutionally vague if an agency can reasonably interpret it to both permit and outlaw the same conduct. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 9:44:55 AM EDT
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Maybe some decisions today
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Posted: 3/23/2020 9:49:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe some decisions today |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 9:55:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How? The clerks still working? Publishing opinions from home? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe some decisions today The building is open for employees, the clerk's office is also excellent at posting to their website within moments of events in the courtroom. ETA: the press are being received inside the building, but they might not get into the actual press room itself. Kharn |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 9:55:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How? The clerks still working? Publishing opinions from home? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe some decisions today The justices “met” Friday and said orders and decisions this morning. ETA No new cases taken up today. |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 11:56:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The justices “met” Friday and said orders and decisions this morning. ETA No new cases taken up today. Thank you for keeping this thread updated. |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 12:06:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The building is open for employees, the clerk's office is also excellent at posting to their website within moments of events in the courtroom. ETA: the press are being received inside the building, but they might not get into the actual press room itself. Kharn  |
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Posted: 3/25/2020 7:51:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The justices “met” Friday and said orders and decisions this morning. ETA No new cases taken up today. Any updates? |
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