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Posted: 2/23/2019 8:25:55 AM EDT
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Surefire’s Chief Admin Officer who describes himself as leftof Obama (his words) made those donations without authorization or telling anyone at Surefire. |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 8:29:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2019 8:32:11 AM EDT
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+1 so who do we have so far? Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A MASTER LIST of this shit needs to be compiled, published, and GO VIRAL throughout the 2A community! Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 8:37:16 AM EDT
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Who makes a good forearm flashlight replacement for my Benelli M4 to keep it 923 compliant? What about replacementS for my X300s and myX400 ?
This is is a depressing thread I must have about 5k worth of surefire stuff to chop up |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 8:55:23 AM EDT
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Who makes a good forearm flashlight replacement for my Benelli M4 to keep it 923 compliant? What about replacementS for my X300s and myX400 ? This is is a depressing thread I must have about 5k worth of surefire stuff to chop up |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 9:01:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2019 9:09:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2019 9:10:56 AM EDT
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Arfcom sinks another company
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Posted: 2/23/2019 9:11:11 AM EDT
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Overpriced, outdated stuff anyway.
#rememberthelumens |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 9:21:12 AM EDT
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Looks like my future lights will be Cloud Defense.
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Posted: 2/23/2019 9:22:18 AM EDT
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I've been avoiding clicking on this thread because I don't want to know the truth
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Posted: 2/23/2019 10:05:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2019 10:21:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2019 10:24:14 AM EDT
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Or you can ask the dude at Surefire who made the donations, Joel Smith. Heck, I’m sure you can even figure out his email.
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Posted: 2/23/2019 10:48:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here’s an idea, call your Surefire Military Account Manger on his personal mobile and ask him yourself. Oh wait, you don’t have one and don’t know anyone there? Shame, must suck to be common lol |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 10:50:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here’s an idea, call your Surefire Military Account Manger on his personal mobile and ask him yourself. Oh wait, you don’t have one and don’t know anyone there? Shame, must suck to be common lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Here’s an idea, call your Surefire Military Account Manger on his personal mobile and ask him yourself. Oh wait, you don’t have one and don’t know anyone there? Shame, must suck to be common lol Quoted:
Or you can ask the dude at Surefire who made the donations, Joel Smith. Heck, I’m sure you can even figure out his email. |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:27:15 AM EDT
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Surefire’s Chief Admin Officer who describes himself as leftof Obama (his words) made those donations without authorization or telling anyone at Surefire. Sure..... |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:31:34 AM EDT
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Surefire’s Chief Admin Officer who describes himself as leftof Obama (his words) made those donations without authorization or telling anyone at Surefire. https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=&cycle=&state=&zip=&employ=surefire&cand=Surefire |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:37:03 AM EDT
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Here’s an idea, call your Surefire Military Account Manger on his personal mobile and ask him yourself. Oh wait, you don’t have one and don’t know anyone there? Shame, must suck to be common lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:40:31 AM EDT
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Wait....what did LBTC do to be included on the naughty list ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A MASTER LIST of this shit needs to be compiled, published, and GO VIRAL throughout the 2A community! Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:40:56 AM EDT
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Who makes a good forearm flashlight replacement for my Benelli M4 to keep it 923 compliant? What about replacementS for my X300s and myX400 ? This is is a depressing thread I must have about 5k worth of surefire stuff to chop up 
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:43:42 AM EDT
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A MASTER LIST of this shit needs to be compiled, published, and GO VIRAL throughout the 2A community! Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:47:18 AM EDT
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Go with Malkoff. Awesome product, American made, the mfg actually answers the phone. Positively bulletproof gear.
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:47:50 AM EDT
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Here’s an idea, call your Surefire Military Account Manger on his personal mobile and ask him yourself. Oh wait, you don’t have one and don’t know anyone there? Shame, must suck to be common lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:49:54 AM EDT
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Go with Malkoff. Awesome product, American made, the mfg actually answers the phone. Positively bulletproof gear. |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:50:24 AM EDT
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Looks like everyone will be mounting O-lights on their Cold Steel swords!
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:55:33 AM EDT
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So where can I get my clone Surefire suppressors and lights? Seems only fitting for my clone builds now
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:58:37 AM EDT
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Go with Malkoff. Awesome product, American made, the mfg actually answers the phone. Positively bulletproof gear. |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:00:03 PM EDT
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A MASTER LIST of this shit needs to be compiled, published, and GO VIRAL throughout the 2A community! Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:02:19 PM EDT
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Donated to Ds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A MASTER LIST of this shit needs to be compiled, published, and GO VIRAL throughout the 2A community! Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge Just scanned the list but first thing I noticed is they had a mix of both R and Ds |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:04:18 PM EDT
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A MASTER LIST of this shit needs to be compiled, published, and GO VIRAL throughout the 2A community! Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge Just scanned the list but first thing I noticed is they had a mix of both R and Ds |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:05:45 PM EDT
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Yeah, I didn’t make the list I’m just telling you why they got put there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A MASTER LIST of this shit needs to be compiled, published, and GO VIRAL throughout the 2A community! Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge Just scanned the list but first thing I noticed is they had a mix of both R and Ds |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:11:06 PM EDT
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Understood. Don’t think I’m chopping up my LBTC gear however. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A MASTER LIST of this shit needs to be compiled, published, and GO VIRAL throughout the 2A community! Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge Just scanned the list but first thing I noticed is they had a mix of both R and Ds |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:23:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: +1 so who do we have so far? Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge The Leupold & Stevens PAC has given money to the likes of Susan Davis (D-CA) and Mark Udall (D-CO). Both have a long history of voting against your 2A rights. The treasurer of the Leupold & Stevens PAC is Leupold CFO Howard Werth. https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00548057&cycle=2014 |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:29:19 PM EDT
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A MASTER LIST of this shit needs to be compiled, published, and GO VIRAL throughout the 2A community! Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge Just scanned the list but first thing I noticed is they had a mix of both R and Ds If you sleep with your wife and some other women, does that balance it all out? If you spend your life building bridges and you fuck only one goat, do they call you a bridge builder or a goat fucker? |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:37:19 PM EDT
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Surefire’s Chief Admin Officer who describes himself as leftof Obama (his words) made those donations without authorization or telling anyone at Surefire. DOUG HOWARD, TREASURER THE SUREFIRE PAC 18300 MOUNT BALDY CIRCLE FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708-6122 http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/606/13330033606/13330033606.pdf#navpanes=0 |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:38:27 PM EDT
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Oh so now we suddenly care about campaign contributions to Democrats.
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:47:28 PM EDT
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I can't remember if I said this in this thread or not, but if there is one thing that we've all learned from this controversy is:
POLITICIANS ARE CHEAP. Seriously, look at how little money these people gave to politicians to get influence with them. So if you want to boycott, by all means boycott, but do more than just boycott - go buy a politician. For the price of a Hi Point you can influence how a politician votes - especially on the state level. So find out who your state reps and senators are, go to their fundraisers, write a check for $100, shake their hand and have a picture taken with them, and then briefly talk to them about supporting gun rights citing specific bills currently pending without coming off like a nut. Its easy. I have several politicians who I will donate to during a campaign. It puts me on the map in their world so when I send them an email about something they know who I am. When we have our annual gun rights rally at the court house I'll pop in to their office and say hi and let them know I'm in town for the rally. Take the money you're not spending on Surefire and Benchmade and whoever else and spend it on politicians you support. |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:49:01 PM EDT
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Doug Howard was listed as the treasurer of the Surefire PAC. According to LinkedIn his role at Surefire was finance manager. If you look at the actual FEC filings it clearly shows the PAC even uses Surefire's address. There's no way they didn't know. DOUG HOWARD, TREASURER THE SUREFIRE PAC 18300 MOUNT BALDY CIRCLE FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708-6122 http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/606/13330033606/13330033606.pdf#navpanes=0 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Surefire’s Chief Admin Officer who describes himself as leftof Obama (his words) made those donations without authorization or telling anyone at Surefire. DOUG HOWARD, TREASURER THE SUREFIRE PAC 18300 MOUNT BALDY CIRCLE FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708-6122 http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/606/13330033606/13330033606.pdf#navpanes=0 Out of those that donated to the PAC, we have.... John Matthews - Founder of of Newport Corporation, which is now known as Surefire Joel Smith - Chief Administrative Officer Gustav Bonse - Chief Operating Officer Sean Vo - Chief Financial Officer Matthew Hemenez - Vice President of Marketing, Sales, and Product Management Jennifer Curlee - Director, Information Technology The founder of the company, three chiefs, one vice president and one director.... all say @thanatos8541's account rep is more full of shit than a truck stop bathroom. |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 1:01:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Inforce Elzetta O-light The don't have the same wide spread holster compatibility as Surefire and Streamlight, but you can still find holsters for them. Hands down the best mounting system on their pl mini 2. Also, roll your own holster. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Holster-Build-and-Carry-Rig-Thread/5-2196476/&page=1&anc=77476166#i77476166 |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 1:10:52 PM EDT
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In other news, Inforce is donating $5 to USCCA for every light sold this weekend.
https://www.facebook.com/Inforce01/photos/a.1384163201621526/2015672911803882/?type=3&theater |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 1:14:52 PM EDT
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In other news, Inforce is donating $5 to USCCA for every light sold this weekend. https://www.facebook.com/Inforce01/photos/a.1384163201621526/2015672911803882/?type=3&theater |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 1:17:54 PM EDT
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Law Enforcement Today picked up the story.
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/surefire-lights-donates-to-dems/ |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 1:20:31 PM EDT
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Gene Malkoff personally answered my stupid questions very recently. Malkoff products rock. Hope he is ready for a shit ton more business.
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Posted: 2/23/2019 1:41:27 PM EDT
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I bought a used Surefire MP5 handguard a few weeks ago and replaced the old 100 lumen light with a Malkoff 550 lumen upgrade. Very happy with the price and results!
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Posted: 2/23/2019 1:44:40 PM EDT
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A MASTER LIST of this shit needs to be compiled, published, and GO VIRAL throughout the 2A community! Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge Just scanned the list but first thing I noticed is they had a mix of both R and Ds If you sleep with your wife and some other women, does that balance it all out? If you spend your life building bridges and you fuck only one goat, do they call you a bridge builder or a goat fucker?
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Posted: 2/23/2019 1:48:16 PM EDT
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She was a member of the House Armed Services Committee. They would have been stupid not to donate. I was an early adopter of Surefire and Benchmade both, but moved on as they failed to innovate while maintaining an unrealistic price point. |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 2:17:22 PM EDT
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Very honestly without Uncle Sugar over paying for Surefire shit, the company would have failed long ago. Their share of the consumer market is miniscule which is largely the result of their resting on their laurels whe the Asian manufacturers produced brighter, more efficient and equally reliable lights that use a prolific and rechargeable power source. I was an early adopter of Surefire and Benchmade both, but moved on as they failed to innovate while maintaining an unrealistic price point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/23/2019 2:22:48 PM EDT
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Why is everyone talking about chopping up their surefire gear? I swear, some of you guys are as bad as Benchmade!
SF already has your money. What is gained by destroying weapon components? You bought them in good faith, now you don't like SF, fine, don't buy anymore. But the cause of freedom is not helped by the destruction of military assets in the hands of free men. |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 3:52:56 PM EDT
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Very honestly without Uncle Sugar over paying for Surefire shit, the company would have failed long ago. Their share of the consumer market is miniscule which is largely the result of their resting on their laurels whe the Asian manufacturers produced brighter, more efficient and equally reliable lights that use a prolific and rechargeable power source. I was an early adopter of Surefire and Benchmade both, but moved on as they failed to innovate while maintaining an unrealistic price point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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