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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:00:56 AM EDT
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I don't quite understand, I can get 40rds mags for $10 why would I spend $120 more for 20 extra rounds. the math is: $10/40rds= .25 per rd $130/60rds= $2.17 per rd 'Cause! Being uber tacticool the winner is priceless! 
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:02:56 AM EDT
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ooooooohhh more thrust per squeeze
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:05:44 AM EDT
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If these mags give our boys an edge in that situation, then I am 100% for them! Me too. However, more ammo in a hard to live with device isn't better. The 100 rounder is out because it renders going prone impossible. If the 60 can go prone well enough, and it passes all other field reliablity and utiltiy testing, have at it! As I said earlier, quad stacks by their very nature have very heavy spring tension, and that will make field reloads more difficult. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:07:02 AM EDT
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Mother of Ctuhulu. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu. The 100 rounder looks like it might be a fun range toy at best, but the 60 looks promising if a bit unwieldly. Good for "Deep Ones" 
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:07:18 AM EDT
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I'd buy one of each just for fun... if I lived in a free state
 
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:08:42 AM EDT
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Seems to me that you don't know much about patrolling with an M16/M4. That is a lot of weight to lug around in your arms. There are tools for fire suppression; they are the SAW and M240B. The M16/M4 is not that tool. If you want to talk about IARs, then yes, this might be a good mag. However, a more compact drum mag might be better suited for the job. A 9000 round magazine will do you no good if you can't accurately aim the rifle after carrying it for hours on end. I've spent my share of time patrolling with a loaded rifle and I would carry the 60 in a heartbeat. I would only put 58 rounds in it though.  +1, and +1 |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:10:49 AM EDT
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I wonder if they'll fit in a Redi-Mag / Redi-Mod. Or at the very least if I could put one 60 rounder in the rifle with a standard 30 round mag in the Redi-mod.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:16:23 AM EDT
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great googly moogly that is a big ass mag
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:16:32 AM EDT
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Let's see. Adds about 5 more pounds to the rifle. Barrel doesn't get to cool at all during mag changes that would be normal with 20 and 30 round mags. Not a good idea. Wow, five pounds? You're saying that the magazine body weighs 4 pounds more than a standard 30-rounder's? I didn't see that, I agree it changes my opinion of the thing. I thought it would only be double the weight of a 30-round body, so maybe it'd add a pound total, when fully loaded. And you're right, barrel coolling during reloads is essential. I believe that's why the SEALs have transitioned to 5 round magazines. How much do you think 100 rounds of 5.56 weighs? |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:17:26 AM EDT
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I like, looks better than Beta mags
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:18:13 AM EDT
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Let's see. Adds about 5 more pounds to the rifle. Barrel doesn't get to cool at all during mag changes that would be normal with 20 and 30 round mags. Not a good idea. Wow, five pounds? You're saying that the magazine body weighs 4 pounds more than a standard 30-rounder's? I didn't see that, I agree it changes my opinion of the thing. I thought it would only be double the weight of a 30-round body, so maybe it'd add a pound total, when fully loaded. And you're right, barrel coolling during reloads is essential. I believe that's why the SEALs have transitioned to 5 round magazines. How much do you think 100 rounds of 5.56 weighs? We're talking about the 60 round magazine. The 100 round magazine is unsuitable for normal infantry since it's unusable while prone. And 30 extra rounds of 5.56 weigh a little under 0.9 lbs. 70 extra would be about 2 lbs. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:22:03 AM EDT
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"The MAG5-100, $179, above, looks a bit unwieldy but the MAG5-60, $129, below looks a lot less intimidating. "
Just like everything Surefire: High quality, high cost.... but extremely low value... =/ I'm not made of money, so I'll stick to my $10 CProduct 40-rounders. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:30:03 AM EDT
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i am all for more ammo but also have another concern for the door kickers.... failure drills, misfeed, etx.... drop magazine just loast 1/3rd of your ammo load generally. don't generally want to put a potentially bad mag back into the fight. these would be fun range toys etc... but for the guys actually needing more firepower i just don't see them as the end all solution. i don't see combat troops screaming for larger mags. More bullk means fewer useable magazines, thick gear on an already insanly thick chest rig with armor and pouches. off balance for weight distrobution etc.... i like option they are always a good thing, i just don't see a great deal of untility for the cost here. There are downsides to any equipment. If there werent everyone would use the same loadout. There are also upsides. oh i agree. like i said options are always good. I doubt these were designed with the "rang warrior" in mind to begin with.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:31:32 AM EDT
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Let's see. Adds about 5 more pounds to the rifle. Barrel doesn't get to cool at all during mag changes that would be normal with 20 and 30 round mags. Not a good idea. Wow, five pounds? You're saying that the magazine body weighs 4 pounds more than a standard 30-rounder's? I didn't see that, I agree it changes my opinion of the thing. I thought it would only be double the weight of a 30-round body, so maybe it'd add a pound total, when fully loaded. And you're right, barrel coolling during reloads is essential. I believe that's why the SEALs have transitioned to 5 round magazines. How much do you think 100 rounds of 5.56 weighs? We're talking about the 60 round magazine. The 100 round magazine is unsuitable for normal infantry since it's unusable while prone. And 30 extra rounds of 5.56 weigh a little under 0.9 lbs. 70 extra would be about 2 lbs. and you likely won't carry the same number of mags. fewer mags, same amount of ammo. same weight for the load if not lighter due to fewer mag bodies. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:33:44 AM EDT
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I really like the look of the 60 round magazine. The 100 round one looks like it might be fun for FA toys at a special FA shoot. Yeah.... pretty pointless with the straight pull stuff we have...... I like 30 rounders just because my arms get a rest from faffing with the cocking every shot.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:37:20 AM EDT
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my arms get a rest from faffing with the cocking every shot. that just sounds dity |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:39:12 AM EDT
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Quoted: my arms get a rest from faffing with the cocking every shot. When will the British learn how to speak English?  
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:40:21 AM EDT
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I don't quite understand, I can get 40rds mags for $10 why would I spend $120 more for 20 extra rounds. the math is: $10/40rds= .25 per rd $130/60rds= $2.17 per rd Because someone in a firefight would gladly pay $120 to have 20 more rounds on tap before a reload, I certainly would. Does everyone think they are Surefire's only customer? Do you really think they are marketing $600 flashlights to people who's average use of a firearm is blasting away at a shooting range? Actually, yes they are. Tactical ninjas are where the money is at. Any gun shop owner will tell you so. I'm a FFL
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:51:52 AM EDT
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I believe that's why the SEALs have transitioned to 5 round magazines. DAMNIT!! So now I have to trade dozens of 30 round GI and Magpuls for 5 round mags to stay tacticooool now? 
I look forward to the release... definetly a couple of 60's, probably a 100 round mag just to have as well |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:51:55 AM EDT
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"If it's stupid, but it works, it isn't stupid"
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Posted: 12/6/2010 6:58:49 AM EDT
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WIN!
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:04:39 AM EDT
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Quoted: In my case, entirely pointless. I don't have any rifle to use them with. Yeah.... pretty pointless with the straight pull stuff we have...... I like 30 rounders just because my arms get a rest from faffing with the cocking every shot. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:06:09 AM EDT
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That is too much weight to add to the rifle. 30 rounds is enough; if you can't get the job done with thirty, you need to work on your marksmanship skills. No different than having a redimag on your gun. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:07:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:17:29 AM EDT
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USMC M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:25:26 AM EDT
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Is there a way to block the 100 rounder so that it will only accept ten rounds?
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:26:23 AM EDT
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extended clips
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:28:47 AM EDT
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It's not offered in baby shit brown FDE. So no thank you I'll pass.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:37:27 AM EDT
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I'm not made of money, so I'll stick to my $10 CProduct 40-rounders. Link please? |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:41:29 AM EDT
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That is too much weight to add to the rifle. 30 rounds is enough; if you can't get the job done with thirty, you need to work on your marksmanship skills. Tell that to the hoard of fucking zombies. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:42:35 AM EDT
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That 60 rounder looks practical. I'd buy it.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:46:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I love Ohio, but I hate the 30-round limit on magazines. SBRs are exempt(not that anyone enforces it anyways). Ownership is legal , just can't get caught with over 30rd in it. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:46:31 AM EDT
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That's super bad ass.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:54:13 AM EDT
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I would get some of the 60 rnd mags. The 100 rnd mag just doesn't look right but I would still get a couple.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:00:47 AM EDT
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........wat.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:01:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:04:41 AM EDT
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That is too much weight to add to the rifle. 30 rounds is enough; if you can't get the job done with thirty, you need to work on your marksmanship skills. Don't know much about near ambush or break contact procedures, do you? To me this seems like a natural fit for the IAR concept and I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they developed the mags with that system in mind. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Seems to me that you don't know much about patrolling with an M16/M4. That is a lot of weight to lug around in your arms. There are tools for fire suppression; they are the SAW and M240B. The M16/M4 is not that tool. If you want to talk about IARs, then yes, this might be a good mag. However, a more compact drum mag might be better suited for the job. A 9000 round magazine will do you no good if you can't accurately aim the rifle after carrying it for hours on end. I dont think the weight is that big of a deal, hell after the pec 2, surefire, CCO ur already screwed plus a lot of guys were already carrying a coupled mag upfront for a quicker reload.
even with all that crap its still a light rifle. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:05:15 AM EDT
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Did MP design these for SF?
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:14:25 AM EDT
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Interesting...
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:16:12 AM EDT
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That would be a pretty badass on my 7.5" SBR.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:18:25 AM EDT
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Epic win for the zombie apocalypse.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:32:09 AM EDT
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250 rounds bitches! |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:35:21 AM EDT
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To me this seems like a natural fit for the IAR concept and I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they developed the mags with that system in mind. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile winner |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:44:48 AM EDT
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In on one. Like everyone else I'll wait til the prices drop (or buy the Korean knock off). $129 is a small price to pay for preparation for the zombie infestation. For that much money I can get a Jack Bauer Havoc Sack full of GI Mags, or 5 P-Mags. For the price of three of those mags I can get my JB Havoc Sack full of GI Mags loaded with Quality Ammo plus a couple of performance food bars and a couple of liter bottles of water. I guess it is all about priorities. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:48:51 AM EDT
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Is there a way to block the 100 rounder so that it will only accept ten rounds? I lol'd. It sucks living in a ban state
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:53:11 AM EDT
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I gotta say I really dont see these being a big hit. +1 I'll stick with a beta mag for 100 rds |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 8:59:21 AM EDT
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I think a couple of these will go nice with my Franken LMG...
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Posted: 12/6/2010 9:07:52 AM EDT
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That is too much weight to add to the rifle. 30 rounds is enough; if you can't get the job done with thirty, you need to work on your marksmanship skills. Didn't Bill Ruger say something like that when he supported the AWB during Clinton's administration? I have never been in an ambush, but I'm not going to tell a soldier who is that he shouldn't have more than 30 rds. in a mag cuz he needs to learn how to shoot better Holy fuckballs! Unleash the dogs of ARFCOM!!!!! If this mag works for someone, by all means, use it. I am not saying that this mag has no use. Redimags, mag couplers, and 9000 round mags all have a use. However, fireteams work in teams. When working in teams, reload speed is far less important than many people will emphasize. Also, reloading should be done from cover; this also reduces the emphasis for speed. If you are not in a team (or as I like to say, alone) and you get ambushed, you are dead. It does not matter how may rounds you have in your mag, they will shoot you before you have the chance to fire off a single round. This is why I have put more weight on traditional roles of suppressive fire, and less on the rifleman. The SAW (or other suppressive fire tool (even the IAR))can keep the enemies head down (hopefully) while the riflemen reload. Teamwork. Quoted:
I guess it is a good thing our soldiers were never issued a 9.5 lb rifle. They weren't carrying nearly as much supplementary gear as current soldiers do.
In closing, I see 9000 round mags to have limited use. I do not claim that they are bad; only that they may not have many advantages over a 30 round mag. Sometimes less is more. Case in point: http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/tacticoolAR15.jpg I see through your clever ruse. The flashhider on that rifle is not .mil issue. Yes it is, it's on the Mk12Mod0. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 9:10:25 AM EDT
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If these mags give our boys an edge in that situation, then I am 100% for them! Me too. However, more ammo in a hard to live with device isn't better. The 100 rounder is out because it renders going prone impossible. If the 60 can go prone well enough, and it passes all other field reliablity and utiltiy testing, have at it! As I said earlier, quad stacks by their very nature have very heavy spring tension, and that will make field reloads more difficult. Just get a LULA. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 9:10:46 AM EDT
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Quoted: 250 rounds bitches! Dang, I'm not usually one to point out phallic symbols, but that reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallly looks like it "gives more thrusts per squeeze". |
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