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Link Posted: 11/7/2021 4:38:03 PM EST
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Still gotta beat Bama which is the obstacle for natty contenders
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The problem with LSU is the level of competition inherent to the West (and SEC as a whole).  USC is a much better option, significantly easier conference to play in.


Still gotta beat Bama which is the obstacle for natty contenders


That’s true but the every weekend level of competition is better too.
Look at the current rankings. 1 Pac12 team in top 25. 5 SEC teams. Easier path to playoffs for a good team in the Pac12.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 4:42:56 PM EST
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That’s true but the every weekend level of competition is better too.
Look at the current rankings. 1 Pac12 team in top 25. 5 SEC teams. Easier path to playoffs for a good team in the Pac12.
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The problem with LSU is the level of competition inherent to the West (and SEC as a whole).  USC is a much better option, significantly easier conference to play in.


Still gotta beat Bama which is the obstacle for natty contenders


That’s true but the every weekend level of competition is better too.
Look at the current rankings. 1 Pac12 team in top 25. 5 SEC teams. Easier path to playoffs for a good team in the Pac12.


That's why so many PAC teams have made it
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 4:47:58 PM EST
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Bama didn't really move up, Cinci moved down.  

Tulsa beat Cinci in nearly every statistic yesterday except the score.  Bama looked bad, but at least they didn't look as bad as Cinci.  That's the way I read that swap in ranking.
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There is a lot of WTF in that ranking.

Bama moves up after struggling against a bad LSU?
TTUN ranked ahead of TTUN State despite losing to them last week?


Bama didn't really move up, Cinci moved down.  

Tulsa beat Cinci in nearly every statistic yesterday except the score.  Bama looked bad, but at least they didn't look as bad as Cinci.  That's the way I read that swap in ranking.


Also everyone is focused on the winners performance.
What about level of competition?
What happens if Bama plays Tulsa?
And LSU plays Cincinnati?
Which is a guaranteed win and which one could go either way?
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 4:56:40 PM EST
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Also everyone is focused on the winners performance.
What about level of competition?
What happens if Bama plays Tulsa?
And LSU plays Cincinnati?
Which is a guaranteed win and which one could go either way?
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There is a lot of WTF in that ranking.

Bama moves up after struggling against a bad LSU?
TTUN ranked ahead of TTUN State despite losing to them last week?


Bama didn't really move up, Cinci moved down.  

Tulsa beat Cinci in nearly every statistic yesterday except the score.  Bama looked bad, but at least they didn't look as bad as Cinci.  That's the way I read that swap in ranking.


Also everyone is focused on the winners performance.
What about level of competition?
What happens if Bama plays Tulsa?
And LSU plays Cincinnati?
Which is a guaranteed win and which one could go either way?


Lsu tulsa game is the one I wanna see.  I'd say upset alert

Coach O got lucky with coordinators and players once.  I think luck had a lot to do with it and otherwise he's not good at coaching per say
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 5:00:38 PM EST
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There is a lot of WTF in that ranking.

Bama moves up after struggling against a bad LSU?
TTUN ranked ahead of TTUN State despite losing to them last week?
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Tosu in front of Oregon?

Tarded.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 5:01:26 PM EST
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How is Purdue not ranked?
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 5:22:49 PM EST
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How is Purdue not ranked?
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3 losses?
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 5:43:36 PM EST
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3 losses?
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How is Purdue not ranked?

3 losses?


6-3 this late in the season isn’t terrible.

Name another team with 2 Top 5 wins?
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 5:45:54 PM EST
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6-3 this late in the season isn’t terrible.

Name another team with 2 Top 5 wins?
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How is Purdue not ranked?

3 losses?


6-3 this late in the season isn’t terrible.

Name another team with 2 Top 5 wins?


What about quality losses?
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 5:48:36 PM EST
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What about quality losses?
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3 losses?


6-3 this late in the season isn’t terrible.

Name another team with 2 Top 5 wins?


What about quality losses?




Sorry I forgot losses > wins
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 5:52:13 PM EST
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Sorry I forgot losses > wins
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How is Purdue not ranked?

3 losses?


6-3 this late in the season isn’t terrible.

Name another team with 2 Top 5 wins?


What about quality losses?




Sorry I forgot losses > wins


Wins don't matter
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 6:07:09 PM EST
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6-3 this late in the season isn’t terrible.

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Jumping there shark bud?
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Jumping there shark bud?
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6-3 this late in the season isn’t terrible.

Name another team with 2 Top 5 wins?


Jumping there shark bud?


Huh?

Link Posted: 11/7/2021 6:30:31 PM EST
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Jumping there shark bud?
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6-3 this late in the season isn’t terrible.

Name another team with 2 Top 5 wins?


Jumping there shark bud?


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Link Posted: 11/7/2021 6:37:05 PM EST
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They don't have 2 top 5 wins.  They have 1 top 5 win.  Their next game against a top 5 team is this weekend and if they win this weekend they'll have 2 top 5 wins.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 6:48:27 PM EST
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They don't have 2 top 5 wins.  They have 1 top 5 win.  Their next game against a top 5 team is this weekend and if they win this weekend they'll have 2 top 5 wins.
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They don't have 2 top 5 wins.  They have 1 top 5 win.  Their next game against a top 5 team is this weekend and if they win this weekend they'll have 2 top 5 wins.


#2 Iowa
#3 MSU

Lost to #12 ND

Faces Ohio State this weekend
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 7:01:31 PM EST
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#2 Iowa
#3 MSU

Lost to #12 ND

Faces Ohio State this weekend
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They don't have 2 top 5 wins.  They have 1 top 5 win.  Their next game against a top 5 team is this weekend and if they win this weekend they'll have 2 top 5 wins.


#2 Iowa
#3 MSU

Lost to #12 ND

Faces Ohio State this weekend


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Link Posted: 11/7/2021 7:04:13 PM EST
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They don't have 2 top 5 wins.  They have 1 top 5 win.  Their next game against a top 5 team is this weekend and if they win this weekend they'll have 2 top 5 wins.
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They don't have 2 top 5 wins.  They have 1 top 5 win.  Their next game against a top 5 team is this weekend and if they win this weekend they'll have 2 top 5 wins.

Drunkenness confirmed.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 7:04:34 PM EST
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What about quality losses?
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How is Purdue not ranked?

3 losses?


6-3 this late in the season isn’t terrible.

Name another team with 2 Top 5 wins?


What about quality losses?


Nebraska has quite a few quality losses.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 7:07:49 PM EST
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#2 Iowa
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You mean #22 Iowa right

#22 Iowa who was never a top five caliber team

#22 Iowa who got a top 5 billing after beating an overrated (and unranked) Iowa St.

I mean we going down that path and we calling Clemson a top 5 win for the teams that beat them?  Nope, because Clemson face planted this year.  

There is a reason that when you look at a team's wins/losses this week it reflects the current rankings of those teams now, and not the rank when the game was played.  Because we know more about a team's true rank today based on all their accumulated body of work.  That's also the reason that today's rank will mean less than the end of the season in 4 weeks when we will see season end ranks only.

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Link Posted: 11/7/2021 7:32:33 PM EST
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I am pretty sure Iowa was ranked #2 when Purdue beat them regardless of where you think they should be ranked or are ranked now.  That's the point being made.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 7:44:37 PM EST
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You mean #22 Iowa right

#22 Iowa who was never a top five caliber team

#22 Iowa who got a top 5 billing after beating an overrated (and unranked) Iowa St.

I mean we going down that path and we calling Clemson a top 5 win for the teams that beat them?  Nope, because Clemson face planted this year.  

There is a reason that when you look at a team's wins/losses this week it reflects the current rankings of those teams now, and not the rank when the game was played.  Because we know more about a team's true rank today based on all their accumulated body of work.  That's also the reason that today's rank will mean less than the end of the season in 4 weeks when we will see season end ranks only.

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#2 Iowa
#3 MSU

Lost to #12 ND

Faces Ohio State this weekend


You mean #22 Iowa right

#22 Iowa who was never a top five caliber team

#22 Iowa who got a top 5 billing after beating an overrated (and unranked) Iowa St.

I mean we going down that path and we calling Clemson a top 5 win for the teams that beat them?  Nope, because Clemson face planted this year.  

There is a reason that when you look at a team's wins/losses this week it reflects the current rankings of those teams now, and not the rank when the game was played.  Because we know more about a team's true rank today based on all their accumulated body of work.  That's also the reason that today's rank will mean less than the end of the season in 4 weeks when we will see season end ranks only.

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With what you’re saying Purdue doesn’t have any Top 5 wins then.
You can’t discount when they beat #2 Iowa and give them credit for #3 Michigan St who isn’t Top 5 anymore either.


Link Posted: 11/7/2021 7:45:04 PM EST
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You mean #22 Iowa right

#22 Iowa who was never a top five caliber team

#22 Iowa who got a top 5 billing after beating an overrated (and unranked) Iowa St.

I mean we going down that path and we calling Clemson a top 5 win for the teams that beat them?  Nope, because Clemson face planted this year.  

There is a reason that when you look at a team's wins/losses this week it reflects the current rankings of those teams now, and not the rank when the game was played.  Because we know more about a team's true rank today based on all their accumulated body of work.  That's also the reason that today's rank will mean less than the end of the season in 4 weeks when we will see season end ranks only.

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#2 Iowa
#3 MSU

Lost to #12 ND

Faces Ohio State this weekend


You mean #22 Iowa right

#22 Iowa who was never a top five caliber team

#22 Iowa who got a top 5 billing after beating an overrated (and unranked) Iowa St.

I mean we going down that path and we calling Clemson a top 5 win for the teams that beat them?  Nope, because Clemson face planted this year.  

There is a reason that when you look at a team's wins/losses this week it reflects the current rankings of those teams now, and not the rank when the game was played.  Because we know more about a team's true rank today based on all their accumulated body of work.  That's also the reason that today's rank will mean less than the end of the season in 4 weeks when we will see season end ranks only.

ETA:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/151633/Screen_Shot_2021-11-07_at_6_08_44_PM_png-2158781.JPG


Neat.  

Purdue still beat #2 Iowa and #3 MSU
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 7:46:15 PM EST
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It's not what I think.  Or what any of us think.

The original statement was "I don't understand why Perdu isn't ranked.  They are the only team with 2 top 5 wins.".

I was pointing out what the ranking systems think.  They think Perdu wasn't worth a ranking because one of the wins that looked good weeks ago turns out to be a worthless win over a junk team.  

Any of us can think that sucks.  Any of us can take issue with the model and how it performs historical look backs.  But this is the reason that the model doesn't see Perdu as having 2 top 5 wins.
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It's not what I think.  Or what any of us think.

The original statement was "I don't understand why Perdu isn't ranked.  They are the only team with 2 top 5 wins.".

I was pointing out what the ranking systems think.  They think Perdu wasn't worth a ranking because one of the wins that looked good weeks ago turns out to be a worthless win over a junk team.  

Any of us can think that sucks.  Any of us can take issue with the model and how it performs historical look backs.  But this is the reason that the model doesn't see Perdu as having 2 top 5 wins.
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It's not what I think.  Or what any of us think.

The original statement was "I don't understand why Perdu isn't ranked.  They are the only team with 2 top 5 wins.".

I was pointing out what the ranking systems think.  They think Perdu wasn't worth a ranking because one of the wins that looked good weeks ago turns out to be a worthless win over a junk team.  

Any of us can think that sucks.  Any of us can take issue with the model and how it performs historical look backs.  But this is the reason that the model doesn't see Perdu as having 2 top 5 wins.


The poll voters likely don't even notice purdue is missing
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 7:51:47 PM EST
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Ya because Alabama lost to a unranked, I mean a future #11 Texas A&M team right!?!?!?!
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 7:56:06 PM EST
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Nah, ESPN has been pushing Purdue effectively enough in the narrative.  They are getting air time and are in the conversation.  They might be ranked in this week's playoff ranking.

The top 5 win(s) comment aside there are other things in the model working against Purdue.  Mainly recent losses are punished more than old losses.  And consistency is rewarded more than inconsistency.  Purdue has both recent losses and they are seesawing back and forth between loss and win which makes them inconsistent and unpredictable.
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Nah, ESPN has been pushing Purdue effectively enough in the narrative.  They are getting air time and are in the conversation.  They might be ranked in this week's playoff ranking.

The top 5 win(s) comment aside there are other things in the model working against Purdue.  Mainly recent losses are punished more than old losses.  And consistency is rewarded more than inconsistency.  Purdue has both recent losses and they are seesawing back and forth between loss and win which makes them inconsistent and unpredictable.
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Nah, ESPN has been pushing Purdue effectively enough in the narrative.  They are getting air time and are in the conversation.  They might be ranked in this week's playoff ranking.

The top 5 win(s) comment aside there are other things in the model working against Purdue.  Mainly recent losses are punished more than old losses.  And consistency is rewarded more than inconsistency.  Purdue has both recent losses and they are seesawing back and forth between loss and win which makes them inconsistent and unpredictable.


If espn wanted purdue ranked they'd be ranked
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Mmmmm....probably.  Point is the ranking committee isn't "forgetting they exist".
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Boiler Up!

Purdue probably doesn't deserve to be ranked, but yes, they have beat 2 top 5 teams. But the rankings feel like such a sham this year, idk. The pat on the back 25th ranking was nice after beating Iowa. Another win over Ohio State would be massive. Purdue isn't going to sneak up on them though. As of right now I think they are 20 point underdogs. Only a 3.5 underdog against MSU. I'm pretty excited Purdue gets to go a bowl game!! It doesn't happen too often, so I really try to savor it!!
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I just found out that I’m related to UAB’s head coach Bill Clark.
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If espn wanted purdue ranked they'd be ranked


Mmmmm....probably.  Point is the ranking committee isn't "forgetting they exist".


The ranking committee huh?  

Sure ya ain't drunk
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Ya because Alabama lost to a unranked, I mean a future #11 Texas A&M team right!?!?!?!
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The poll voters likely don't even notice purdue is missing


Nah, ESPN has been pushing Purdue effectively enough in the narrative.  They are getting air time and are in the conversation.  They might be ranked in this week's playoff ranking.

The top 5 win(s) comment aside there are other things in the model working against Purdue.  Mainly recent losses are punished more than old losses.  And consistency is rewarded more than inconsistency.  Purdue has both recent losses and they are seesawing back and forth between loss and win which makes them inconsistent and unpredictable.


If espn wanted purdue ranked they'd be ranked


I bet the playoff committee ranks them.
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Well you do live in Alabama
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I bet the playoff committee ranks them.
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Nah, ESPN has been pushing Purdue effectively enough in the narrative.  They are getting air time and are in the conversation.  They might be ranked in this week's playoff ranking.

The top 5 win(s) comment aside there are other things in the model working against Purdue.  Mainly recent losses are punished more than old losses.  And consistency is rewarded more than inconsistency.  Purdue has both recent losses and they are seesawing back and forth between loss and win which makes them inconsistent and unpredictable.


If espn wanted purdue ranked they'd be ranked


I bet the playoff committee ranks them.


Need to up that OSU sos so they can get past a team who beat them at home
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Wife’s distant female cousin is his wife.
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Less fun
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lol maybe I’m just slow but I had to read that 3 times
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You mean #22 Iowa right

#22 Iowa who was never a top five caliber team

#22 Iowa who got a top 5 billing after beating an overrated (and unranked) Iowa St.

I mean we going down that path and we calling Clemson a top 5 win for the teams that beat them?  Nope, because Clemson face planted this year.  

There is a reason that when you look at a team's wins/losses this week it reflects the current rankings of those teams now, and not the rank when the game was played.  Because we know more about a team's true rank today based on all their accumulated body of work.  That's also the reason that today's rank will mean less than the end of the season in 4 weeks when we will see season end ranks only.

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I guess you could say the same about TAM then.  

They were totally overrated at the start of the year.  Agreed?


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Probably lost interest in the football season and is hanging out on Duke basketball message boards where hope for a successful season still abounds.

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Unc wake game and play by play guys are eating sammiches on TV

Where is @USPcompact? Did he get banned, too?


Probably lost interest in the football season and is hanging out on Duke basketball message boards where hope for a successful season still abounds.



Fuck dook.  

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I saw this on SurlyHorns last night and it just about made me blow soda out my nose.

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Wife’s distant female cousin is his wife.
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I just found out that I’m related to UAB’s head coach Bill Clark.


Well you do live in Alabama


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Wife’s distant female cousin is his wife.


You can marry 1st cousins in Louisiana
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 8:54:40 PM EST
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I guess you could say the same about TAM then.  

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Yep.  When you lose 4 out of 5 starters on your offensive line and your starting QB.  You're damn right we are no longer a Top 5 team.  We luckily got one of our O-line back, but we are still sitting on the youngest O-line in the SEC with the least amount of experience.  The only reason we are now clicking is the talent that was recruited and the coaching getting them up to speed.  Not sure where we will end up, but we are a shadow of our pre-season selves and are one hit away from playing a 3rd stringer walk on QB.

So yes, I agree, we were over ranked at the start of the year.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 8:56:25 PM EST
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Yep.  When you lose 4 out of 5 starters on your offensive line and your starting QB.  You're damn right we are no longer a Top 5 team.  We luckily got one of our O-line back, but we are still sitting on the youngest O-line in the SEC with the least amount of experience.  The only reason we are now clicking is the talent that was recruited and the coaching getting them up to speed.  Not sure where we will end up, but we are a shadow of our pre-season selves and are one hit away from playing a 3rd stringer walk on QB.

So yes, I agree, we were over ranked at the start of the year.
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I guess you could say the same about TAM then.  

They were totally overrated at the start of the year.  Agreed?




Yep.  When you lose 4 out of 5 starters on your offensive line and your starting QB.  You're damn right we are no longer a Top 5 team.  We luckily got one of our O-line back, but we are still sitting on the youngest O-line in the SEC with the least amount of experience.  The only reason we are now clicking is the talent that was recruited and the coaching getting them up to speed.  Not sure where we will end up, but we are a shadow of our pre-season selves and are one hit away from playing a 3rd stringer walk on QB.

So yes, I agree, we were over ranked at the start of the year.


Texas tech has used 3+ QBs since 2016 to get seasons finished.  OL ain't been too hot either
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Unc wake game and play by play guys are eating sammiches on TV

Where is @USPcompact? Did he get banned, too?


Probably lost interest in the football season and is hanging out on Duke basketball message boards where hope for a successful season still abounds.



Fuck dook.  

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Cow? Or show us some horns.
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