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Link Posted: 11/7/2021 10:02:21 PM EDT
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Mmmmm....probably.  Point is the ranking committee isn't "forgetting they exist".
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Exactly.  They rank every team, not just the top twenty five.  Most publications and websites list only the top twenty for brevity.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 10:13:30 PM EDT
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Hevesy has been with Mullen for awhile now.

Grantham has been with Mullen the longest of any defensive coordinator he's ever had.

At MSU we had a different DC nearly every year. Longest stint was 2 years and those weren't consecutive (Manny Diaz).
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 10:14:45 PM EDT
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Yep.  When you lose 4 out of 5 starters on your offensive line and your starting QB.  You're damn right we are no longer a Top 5 team.  We luckily got one of our O-line back, but we are still sitting on the youngest O-line in the SEC with the least amount of experience.  The only reason we are now clicking is the talent that was recruited and the coaching getting them up to speed.  Not sure where we will end up, but we are a shadow of our pre-season selves and are one hit away from playing a 3rd stringer walk on QB.

So yes, I agree, we were over ranked at the start of the year.
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I guess you could say the same about TAM then.  

They were totally overrated at the start of the year.  Agreed?




Yep.  When you lose 4 out of 5 starters on your offensive line and your starting QB.  You're damn right we are no longer a Top 5 team.  We luckily got one of our O-line back, but we are still sitting on the youngest O-line in the SEC with the least amount of experience.  The only reason we are now clicking is the talent that was recruited and the coaching getting them up to speed.  Not sure where we will end up, but we are a shadow of our pre-season selves and are one hit away from playing a 3rd stringer walk on QB.

So yes, I agree, we were over ranked at the start of the year.

Everyone talks about teams being underrated or overrated every season, but teams evolve as the season goes on because of injuries, learning, maturity, coaching, etc.  Sometimes a starter goes down and a team loses games because of it, but sometimes a backup has the lightbulb go off and makes the team better.  Teams their favorite team beat are always meaningful wins and teams they hate always play cupcakes.  Geez.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 10:16:26 PM EDT
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Firing a coordinator this early in the season doesn’t usually have the head coach coming back next year.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 10:18:01 PM EDT
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Cow? Or show us some horns.
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Unc wake game and play by play guys are eating sammiches on TV

Where is @USPcompact? Did he get banned, too?


Probably lost interest in the football season and is hanging out on Duke basketball message boards where hope for a successful season still abounds.



Fuck dook.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53154/18193AA3-111C-4F4E-8273-71DFD83FACF8_jpe-2158938.JPG


Cow? Or show us some horns.


Antlers, you Texas heathen.  

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Edit:   I wasn’t the shooter.   An Aggie from the class of ‘00 pulled the trigger.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 10:19:49 PM EDT
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I didn’t realize NC had the same size deer as Michigan
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 10:21:13 PM EDT
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Exactly.  They rank every team, not just the top twenty five.  Most publications and websites list only the top twenty for brevity.
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Mmmmm....probably.  Point is the ranking committee isn't "forgetting they exist".

Exactly.  They rank every team, not just the top twenty five.  Most publications and websites list only the top twenty for brevity.


AP top 130?
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 10:22:51 PM EDT
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Texas tech has used 3+ QBs since 2016 to get seasons finished.  OL ain't been too hot either
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And how has that worked out for either of us
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 10:23:35 PM EDT
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Firing a coordinator this early in the season doesn’t usually have the head coach coming back next year.
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In this case I think it’s the opposite.  Was either get rid of them or fired himself.  I think getting rid of them will buy him 1 more year, but we’ll see.  

That’s if they win out.  If he loses to Mizzou or FSU he might be following them out the door.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 10:40:07 PM EDT
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And how has that worked out for either of us
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Texas tech has used 3+ QBs since 2016 to get seasons finished.  OL ain't been too hot either


And how has that worked out for either of us


Necessity.  

Bowman left TTU and can't get a snap at Michigan
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AP top 130?
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Look it up.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 10:51:16 PM EDT
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Antlers, you Texas heathen.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53154/485FFC2F-2964-4C54-BE30-D1DE9979A4EA_jpe-2158968.JPG

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Unc wake game and play by play guys are eating sammiches on TV

Where is @USPcompact? Did he get banned, too?


Probably lost interest in the football season and is hanging out on Duke basketball message boards where hope for a successful season still abounds.



Fuck dook.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53154/18193AA3-111C-4F4E-8273-71DFD83FACF8_jpe-2158938.JPG


Cow? Or show us some horns.


Antlers, you Texas heathen.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53154/485FFC2F-2964-4C54-BE30-D1DE9979A4EA_jpe-2158968.JPG

Edit:   I wasn’t the shooter.   An Aggie from the class of ‘00 pulled the trigger.

Obviously you weren’t the shooter, you’ve got some skinny arms.
Link Posted: 11/7/2021 11:01:53 PM EDT
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Obviously you weren’t the shooter, you’ve got some skinny arms.
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Unc wake game and play by play guys are eating sammiches on TV

Where is @USPcompact? Did he get banned, too?


Probably lost interest in the football season and is hanging out on Duke basketball message boards where hope for a successful season still abounds.



Fuck dook.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53154/18193AA3-111C-4F4E-8273-71DFD83FACF8_jpe-2158938.JPG


Cow? Or show us some horns.


Antlers, you Texas heathen.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53154/485FFC2F-2964-4C54-BE30-D1DE9979A4EA_jpe-2158968.JPG

Edit:   I wasn’t the shooter.   An Aggie from the class of ‘00 pulled the trigger.

Obviously you weren’t the shooter, you’ve got some skinny arms.


Im about 50 pounds heavier and 6” taller.  



Link Posted: 11/7/2021 11:10:22 PM EDT
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Antlers, you Texas heathen.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53154/485FFC2F-2964-4C54-BE30-D1DE9979A4EA_jpe-2158968.JPG

Edit:   I wasn’t the shooter.   An Aggie from the class of ‘00 pulled the trigger.
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Unc wake game and play by play guys are eating sammiches on TV

Where is @USPcompact? Did he get banned, too?


Probably lost interest in the football season and is hanging out on Duke basketball message boards where hope for a successful season still abounds.



Fuck dook.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53154/18193AA3-111C-4F4E-8273-71DFD83FACF8_jpe-2158938.JPG


Cow? Or show us some horns.


Antlers, you Texas heathen.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53154/485FFC2F-2964-4C54-BE30-D1DE9979A4EA_jpe-2158968.JPG

Edit:   I wasn’t the shooter.   An Aggie from the class of ‘00 pulled the trigger.


As long as you get to eat it.
Link Posted: 11/8/2021 7:55:44 AM EDT
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Lol, Florida....the problem is much deeper than just Grantham & Hevesy.
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Lol, Florida....the problem is much deeper than just Grantham & Hevesy.
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Lol, Florida....the problem is much deeper than just Grantham & Hevesy.


It seems like they always start with assistants. Then the next year the HC gets fired.
Link Posted: 11/8/2021 8:55:39 AM EDT
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Thats the word I've been hearing.  Coordinators and staff will be important too
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Thats the word I've been hearing.  Coordinators and staff will be important too
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Thats the word I've been hearing.  Coordinators and staff will be important too


So as the local Tech expert it’s a solid hire in your opinion?
Link Posted: 11/8/2021 9:49:27 AM EDT
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So as the local Tech expert it’s a solid hire in your opinion?
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Thats the word I've been hearing.  Coordinators and staff will be important too


So as the local Tech expert it’s a solid hire in your opinion?


Honestly I think it coulda gone worse.  JM is seemingly an excellent person and top notch recruiter.  Literally recruiting West Texas better than Matt Wells or Kliff could.  First hire that wasn't the first guy interviewed, and a committee decided not the AD by himself as he sucks at FB coach hires

He's 5 years removed as Cedar Hill HS HC, and self proclaimed not an X and Os guy.  

Hearing the budget for coordinators is more than the normal ~500k range, hoping assistants have greater than the usual ~125k range too..  need to put a really solid staff together.  

Mike Leaches TTU staffs included Holgo, Briles, Dykes, Riley, Ruffin, etc.  Neal Brown under Tubberville is the only assistant currently a HC at WVU
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Joey McGuire is supposed to be a recruiter and personality/interpersonal skills akin to Mack Brown or Pete Carrol.  TX HS coaches seem to think its a slam dunk hire for TTU... we need better players and actual depth with quality players.
Link Posted: 11/8/2021 10:48:10 AM EDT
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I think that’s a good hire, but y’all know what I say… bet against me regularly and you’ll get rich.
Link Posted: 11/8/2021 10:56:49 AM EDT
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I am smart enough not to bet money on Texas Tech to win... its been a rough 11 or so years.  

Deion Sanders to Texas coming?  

Link Posted: 11/8/2021 10:57:50 AM EDT
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Not even official yet and already recruiting for the good guys
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Unfortunately Texas Tech plays Iowa State at home this weekend and it'll likely be worse than the UT whooping
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Link Posted: 11/8/2021 11:29:35 AM EDT
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I am smart enough not to bet money on Texas Tech to win... its been a rough 11 or so years.  

Deion Sanders to Texas coming?  

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I think that’s a good hire, but y’all know what I say… bet against me regularly and you’ll get rich.


I am smart enough not to bet money on Texas Tech to win... its been a rough 11 or so years.  

Deion Sanders to Texas coming?  


That guy is joking.


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That guy is joking.


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I think that’s a good hire, but y’all know what I say… bet against me regularly and you’ll get rich.


I am smart enough not to bet money on Texas Tech to win... its been a rough 11 or so years.  

Deion Sanders to Texas coming?  


That guy is joking.


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Honestly Deion is getting some stud players for Jacksonville State so I think he would do really well on the big stage.  

But it comes with the risk of total epic nuclear meltdown, maybe at least.
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Word is McGuire starts today building a staff and recruiting his tail off.  Texas Tech might be the most improved recruiting school and still not have a top 25 class
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Deion Sanders to Texas coming?  

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I think that’s a good hire, but y’all know what I say… bet against me regularly and you’ll get rich.


I am smart enough not to bet money on Texas Tech to win... its been a rough 11 or so years.  

Deion Sanders to Texas coming?  


Oh UT.  You so crazy...
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Honestly Deion is getting some stud players for Jacksonville State so I think he would do really well on the big stage.  

But it comes with the risk of total epic nuclear meltdown, maybe at least.
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Is there anything left to melt?
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In this case I think it’s the opposite.  Was either get rid of them or fired himself.  I think getting rid of them will buy him 1 more year, but we’ll see.  

That’s if they win out.  If he loses to Mizzou or FSU he might be following them out the door.
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Firing a coordinator this early in the season doesn’t usually have the head coach coming back next year.

In this case I think it’s the opposite.  Was either get rid of them or fired himself.  I think getting rid of them will buy him 1 more year, but we’ll see.  

That’s if they win out.  If he loses to Mizzou or FSU he might be following them out the door.

That’s the head coach’s line of thinking that if they deflect and make it look like the coordinator was the problem he will get a second chance.  I understand the logic, but what I’m saying is that the AD and boosters usually decide the head coach is the problem.
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Honestly Deion is getting some stud players for Jacksonville State so I think he would do really well on the big stage.  

But it comes with the risk of total epic nuclear meltdown, maybe at least.

Is there anything left to melt?


Egos
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SEC Shorts - Florida tries to win a hot seat
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Incarnate Word in San Antonio has their winningest HC Eric Morris ... he's 21-17 over 4 years but 7-2 this year.  

Kid from Shallowater Texas (lubbock Suburb now) and former TTU OC under Kliff.  His wife is about 10000x better looking than he is so I'm surprised he's not a better recruiter
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I am smart enough not to bet money on Texas Tech to win... its been a rough 11 or so years.  

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Let me say it again.  Only a stupid person would accept the head ball coach position at texas, so they will only ever have a stupid head ball coach.
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Early November and Texas Tech fans are more upbeat about the programs future.  

First time that's happened since 2015 with Mahomes, 2008/09 before that....

Firing ya coach early pays if you hire the new coach early too
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I love Coach Leach!  Dude is an absolute treasure for college football.
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it worked at Texas Tech in 2008, sorta.  We had a terrible FG kicker, after 4 stud years with Trilicia, and a student kicking contest got us a kid we called Linwood as his kick was supposed to get him a free apartment for 6 months.  

Pretty sure he had to decline the contest winnings but he could make reasonable distance FG's and extra points
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I love Coach Leach!  Dude is an absolute treasure for college football.
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I miss his interesting personality.  While most coaches keep their traps shut around reporters he is more than happy to talk about mostly non football things.
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Let me say it again.  Only a stupid person would accept the head ball coach position at texas, so they will only ever have a stupid head ball coach.
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If you hire on with the understanding that you will likely be fired three years in even putting forth a great effort to succeed, you can pad your bank account pretty nicely.
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Let me say it again.  Only a stupid person would accept the head ball coach position at texas, so they will only ever have a stupid head ball coach.
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I am smart enough not to bet money on Texas Tech to win... its been a rough 11 or so years.  

Deion Sanders to Texas coming?  

Let me say it again.  Only a stupid person would accept the head ball coach position at texas, so they will only ever have a stupid head ball coach.


Those 37mil+ guaranteed contracts are harder to turn down than one might think
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If you hire on with the understanding that you will likely be fired three years in even putting forth a great effort to succeed, you can pad your bank account pretty nicely.
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Let me say it again.  Only a stupid person would accept the head ball coach position at texas, so they will only ever have a stupid head ball coach.

If you hire on with the understanding that you will likely be fired three years in even putting forth a great effort to succeed, you can pad your bank account pretty nicely.


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it worked at Texas Tech in 2008, sorta.  We had a terrible FG kicker, after 4 stud years with Trilicia, and a student kicking contest got us a kid we called Linwood as his kick was supposed to get him a free apartment for 6 months.  

Pretty sure he had to decline the contest winnings but he could make reasonable distance FG's and extra points
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it worked at Texas Tech in 2008, sorta.  We had a terrible FG kicker, after 4 stud years with Trilicia, and a student kicking contest got us a kid we called Linwood as his kick was supposed to get him a free apartment for 6 months.  

Pretty sure he had to decline the contest winnings but he could make reasonable distance FG's and extra points

Not a bad move at all.  Pretty low percentage in it working but you can get lucky sometimes.
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