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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:07:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 1 thing the expanded playoffs will do that I think everyone here will agree on is put some emphasis back on being a conference champion. It’s the only way to be in the top 4 and get a first round bye. Notice how Utah and Clemson in that chart were in the Top4 and TCU and OSU weren’t? That’s a pretty big deal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What the 12 team playoff would look like based on todays rankings and selections. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/394844/7B7ECC2D-3896-4485-84E7-ACF62D3CF507_jpe-2623926.JPG It's the second year in a row where 4 teams is honestly too many and we're accelerating towards a 12 team playoff. Sure some folks care. And maybe this year it’s pretty obvious that Georgia and Michigan are better than everyone else. But it still needs to be proven on the field. So what’s wrong with watching Michigan beat TCU and Georgia beat OSU? And in other years there have been deserving teams left out. 2014 TCU should have been included. A&M deserved an opportunity in 2020 a helluva lot more than ND. And what about Western Michigan going undefeated in 2016 and UCF in 2018? Is it fair to leave out undefeated teams? Should participants be decided my men sitting around a table? At least 12 teams will implement some predetermined criteria on who’s included and take the favoritism factor out of the equation for the most part. Transfer portal, NIL, expanded playoffs, college football is changing and not everyone is going to like or agree to all the changes. I suspect many many won't/don't/aren't gonna like the new football world. Its changed a LOT in the last 10 years. Looks very dissimilar to 20 years ago in so many ways. I think the blue bloods will be the ones in the playoffs when they ought not be there. This year its UGA, then UM, then whomever else with 1 loss. The 1 thing the expanded playoffs will do that I think everyone here will agree on is put some emphasis back on being a conference champion. It’s the only way to be in the top 4 and get a first round bye. Notice how Utah and Clemson in that chart were in the Top4 and TCU and OSU weren’t? That’s a pretty big deal. I think KSU would be the slighted one in that scenario. Utah > KSU with the same records and conference championships. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:08:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ? He’s a recruit to Texas. ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:
Now do Arch Manning ? He’s a recruit to Texas. ? Texas has a couple of QBs in the portal with Ewers starting and Manning coming in |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:12:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OSU WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba opting out of the CFP to get healthy for the NFL draft. Uggghhh that’s a first I believe. I’d be pissed if I was a teammate. He’s quitting on a team playing for a NC. That’s not equal to some meaningless bowl game. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:13:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uggghhh that’s a first I believe. I’d be pissed if I was a teammate. He’s quitting on a team playing for a NC. That’s not equal to some meaningless bowl game. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OSU WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba opting out of the CFP to get healthy for the NFL draft. Uggghhh that’s a first I believe. I’d be pissed if I was a teammate. He’s quitting on a team playing for a NC. That’s not equal to some meaningless bowl game. Should recruit higher character players 
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:14:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OSU WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba opting out of the CFP to get healthy for the NFL draft. That's too bad. He had a hamstring injury and tried to come back, but injured himself again. I think he was only in three games this season. Harrison and Egbuka will no doubt step up. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:15:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s crazy to hear. 1st rounder is 10-12 million minimum. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Penix Jr, slated to be a first round draft pick, is coming back to play for UW next year. Maybe that will encourage his WRs to return as well. One is projected to also be a first rounder. That's big news for UW and bad news for the rest of the Pac12 That’s crazy to hear. 1st rounder is 10-12 million minimum. Probably doesn’t want the Detroit Lions drafting him. 
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:15:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Silly (portal/draft) Season is going to be interesting. Lots of bowls won't have some important players involved. Looks like it's going to be even worse this year with some big names bailing. Bowl games have been degrading for a few years now with all the best talent sitting out for the draft. And your right, it’s only going to get worse with the portal. The portal opened today and everyone is in a hurry to announce so they can secure a new home. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:16:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably doesn’t want the Detroit Lions drafting him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Penix Jr, slated to be a first round draft pick, is coming back to play for UW next year. Maybe that will encourage his WRs to return as well. One is projected to also be a first rounder. That's big news for UW and bad news for the rest of the Pac12 That’s crazy to hear. 1st rounder is 10-12 million minimum. Probably doesn’t want the Detroit Lions drafting him. Or go play for the Browns
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:19:40 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Uggghhh that’s a first I believe. I’d be pissed if I was a teammate. He’s quitting on a team playing for a NC. That’s not equal to some meaningless bowl game. I'd be more pissed at CJ Stroud saying he's not sure if he'd play in a non-CFP bowl game. Ryan Day should have made him commit or declare. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:19:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Might have, but QB3 got injured and is still injured as I've heard. QB1 is currently expected to be starter for Bowl game. Got another 4 star HS QB coming in January mind ya. QB3 Morton is a 4 star himself and quite talented but OC Kittley runs the Kliffense and its quite complicated Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Rumor is Donovan Smith (QB2) is going to hit the portal today, other rumor is Tyler Shough (QB1) may hit the portal after the bowl game Did they lose their starting jobs to #3 when they were injured? Might have, but QB3 got injured and is still injured as I've heard. QB1 is currently expected to be starter for Bowl game. Got another 4 star HS QB coming in January mind ya. QB3 Morton is a 4 star himself and quite talented but OC Kittley runs the Kliffense and its quite complicated Why are they all bailing then? Doesn’t sound like the job is locked down for next year? Haynes King is in the portal for A&M but that was expected after freshman Weigman did such a great job when given the opportunity. King knows he won’t win the starting job so if he wants playing time his only option is leaving. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:19:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or go play for the Browns Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Penix Jr, slated to be a first round draft pick, is coming back to play for UW next year. Maybe that will encourage his WRs to return as well. One is projected to also be a first rounder. That's big news for UW and bad news for the rest of the Pac12 That’s crazy to hear. 1st rounder is 10-12 million minimum. Probably doesn’t want the Detroit Lions drafting him. Or go play for the Browns 
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:22:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's too bad. He had a hamstring injury and tried to come back, but injured himself again. I think he was only in three games this season. Harrison and Egbuka will no doubt step up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OSU WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba opting out of the CFP to get healthy for the NFL draft. That's too bad. He had a hamstring injury and tried to come back, but injured himself again. I think he was only in three games this season. Harrison and Egbuka will no doubt step up. So he’s injured? If that’s the case it’s understandable. Wasn’t going to play anyway? |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:23:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are they all bailing then? Doesn’t sound like the job is locked down for next year? Haynes King is in the portal for A&M but that was expected after freshman Weigman did such a great job when given the opportunity. King knows he won’t win the starting job so if he wants playing time his only option is leaving. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Rumor is Donovan Smith (QB2) is going to hit the portal today, other rumor is Tyler Shough (QB1) may hit the portal after the bowl game Did they lose their starting jobs to #3 when they were injured? Might have, but QB3 got injured and is still injured as I've heard. QB1 is currently expected to be starter for Bowl game. Got another 4 star HS QB coming in January mind ya. QB3 Morton is a 4 star himself and quite talented but OC Kittley runs the Kliffense and its quite complicated Why are they all bailing then? Doesn’t sound like the job is locked down for next year? Haynes King is in the portal for A&M but that was expected after freshman Weigman did such a great job when given the opportunity. King knows he won’t win the starting job so if he wants playing time his only option is leaving. Shough (QB1) had some chippy comments post-OU win, so rumors are going strong. He was preseason starter last 2 years and is 7-1 in the 8/25 games he's been available to play in..... he's also got a weak collarbone |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:25:07 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably doesn’t want the Detroit Lions drafting him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Penix Jr, slated to be a first round draft pick, is coming back to play for UW next year. Maybe that will encourage his WRs to return as well. One is projected to also be a first rounder. That's big news for UW and bad news for the rest of the Pac12 That’s crazy to hear. 1st rounder is 10-12 million minimum. Probably doesn’t want the Detroit Lions drafting him. Didn’t Eli Manning do that to the Chargers? |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:27:00 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be more pissed at CJ Stroud saying he's not sure if he'd play in a non-CFP bowl game. Ryan Day should have made him commit or declare. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Uggghhh that’s a first I believe. I’d be pissed if I was a teammate. He’s quitting on a team playing for a NC. That’s not equal to some meaningless bowl game. I'd be more pissed at CJ Stroud saying he's not sure if he'd play in a non-CFP bowl game. Ryan Day should have made him commit or declare. Didn’t Bryce Young and some defensive stud at Bama say the same thing right before the playoff teams were announced? |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:30:39 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ? He’s a recruit to Texas. ? Oh, I know. I’m expecting him to decommit/transfer before he even starts a practice there. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:36:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn’t Eli Manning do that to the Chargers? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Penix Jr, slated to be a first round draft pick, is coming back to play for UW next year. Maybe that will encourage his WRs to return as well. One is projected to also be a first rounder. That's big news for UW and bad news for the rest of the Pac12 That’s crazy to hear. 1st rounder is 10-12 million minimum. Probably doesn’t want the Detroit Lions drafting him. Didn’t Eli Manning do that to the Chargers? Honestly I think it is more about being loyal to a head coach that has helped develop him for years...and possibly going for a Heisman. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:40:01 PM EST
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Spencer Sanders to the transfer portal. Didn't see that coming.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:40:40 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Uggghhh that’s a first I believe. I’d be pissed if I was a teammate. He’s quitting on a team playing for a NC. That’s not equal to some meaningless bowl game. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OSU WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba opting out of the CFP to get healthy for the NFL draft. Uggghhh that’s a first I believe. I’d be pissed if I was a teammate. He’s quitting on a team playing for a NC. That’s not equal to some meaningless bowl game. First player I’ve heard opting out. Likely going to be more in the future. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:41:44 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Spencer Sanders to the transfer portal. Didn't see that coming. Edit: I’m an idiot, I was thinking of Deion’s son |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:42:21 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn’t Bryce Young and some defensive stud at Bama say the same thing right before the playoff teams were announced? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Uggghhh that’s a first I believe. I’d be pissed if I was a teammate. He’s quitting on a team playing for a NC. That’s not equal to some meaningless bowl game. I'd be more pissed at CJ Stroud saying he's not sure if he'd play in a non-CFP bowl game. Ryan Day should have made him commit or declare. Didn’t Bryce Young and some defensive stud at Bama say the same thing right before the playoff teams were announced? young and will anderson. i dont think there ever said anything about it but people speculated |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:42:50 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So he’s injured? If that’s the case it’s understandable. Wasn’t going to play anyway? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: OSU WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba opting out of the CFP to get healthy for the NFL draft. That's too bad. He had a hamstring injury and tried to come back, but injured himself again. I think he was only in three games this season. Harrison and Egbuka will no doubt step up. So he’s injured? If that’s the case it’s understandable. Wasn’t going to play anyway? That was my take on it. Is there an update on the LSU QB? If there is, I missed it. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:43:08 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn’t Bryce Young and some defensive stud at Bama say the same thing right before the playoff teams were announced? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Uggghhh that’s a first I believe. I’d be pissed if I was a teammate. He’s quitting on a team playing for a NC. That’s not equal to some meaningless bowl game. I'd be more pissed at CJ Stroud saying he's not sure if he'd play in a non-CFP bowl game. Ryan Day should have made him commit or declare. Didn’t Bryce Young and some defensive stud at Bama say the same thing right before the playoff teams were announced? I think they said they hadn’t decided at that point, but I think that was before there was another chance of reaching the playoffs. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:44:10 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think they said they hadn’t decided at that point, but I think that was before there was another chance of reaching the playoffs. There was never a chance. 
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:44:43 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Spencer Sanders to the transfer portal. Didn't see that coming. does that mean OSU has someone waiting to take his place so he knew his 4 years of playing were all he'd get there? |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:45:56 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So he’s injured? If that’s the case it’s understandable. Wasn’t going to play anyway? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: OSU WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba opting out of the CFP to get healthy for the NFL draft. That's too bad. He had a hamstring injury and tried to come back, but injured himself again. I think he was only in three games this season. Harrison and Egbuka will no doubt step up. So he’s injured? If that’s the case it’s understandable. Wasn’t going to play anyway? Yeah, he keeps re-injuring his hamstring. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:50:40 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, he keeps re-injuring his hamstring. He should definitely sit out IMO |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:56:55 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He should definitely sit out IMO Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, he keeps re-injuring his hamstring. He should definitely sit out IMO Agreed. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:57:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, I know. I’m expecting him to decommit/transfer before he even starts a practice there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ? He’s a recruit to Texas. ? Oh, I know. I’m expecting him to decommit/transfer before he even starts a practice there. Texas has mucho NIL money I hear |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 3:58:18 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Spencer Sanders to the transfer portal. Didn't see that coming. Definitely didn't see that coming |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 4:08:54 PM EST
[#31]
Nick Bollettieri (the guy who started IMG) has died at 91.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 4:12:37 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So he's injured? If that's the case it's understandable. Wasn't going to play anyway? Sucks, but understandable and no hard feelings. Edit: Played 60 snaps and caught 5 passes this year. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 4:47:07 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who? And who cares? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Penix Jr, slated to be a first round draft pick, is coming back to play for UW next year. Maybe that will encourage his WRs to return as well. One is projected to also be a first rounder. That's big news for UW and bad news for the rest of the Pac12 Who? And who cares? Me |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 5:00:14 PM EST
[#34]
Looks to be some talent hitting the portal.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ncaa-transfer-portal-2023-live-updates-college-football-transfer-tracker-powered-by-247sports/live/ |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 5:03:27 PM EST
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Posted: 12/5/2022 5:16:06 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Texas has a couple of QBs in the portal with Ewers starting and Manning coming in Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted:
Now do Arch Manning ? He’s a recruit to Texas. ? Texas has a couple of QBs in the portal with Ewers starting and Manning coming in Texas has 1 QB in the portal as of this morning. Card, as expected. https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/wire/football/2023/ Offense QB Hudson Card, OL Andrej Karic, WR Trey Omeire Defense CB Jamier Johnson, DE Prince Dorbah, DE DJ Harris, S JD Coffey, LB Devin Richardson |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 5:22:52 PM EST
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Posted: 12/5/2022 5:30:24 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Uggghhh that's a first I believe. I'd be pissed if I was a teammate. He's quitting on a team playing for a NC. That's not equal to some meaningless bowl game. Money money money. Anyway that's part of the culture problem at OSU I guess. Guys more worried about draft positions than buying into the Team. That WAS the same problem Michigan had, but they fixed it. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 5:45:51 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Money money money. Anyway that's part of the culture problem at OSU I guess. Guys more worried about draft positions that buying into the Team. That WAS the same problem Michigan had, but they fixed it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Uggghhh that's a first I believe. I'd be pissed if I was a teammate. He's quitting on a team playing for a NC. That's not equal to some meaningless bowl game. Money money money. Anyway that's part of the culture problem at OSU I guess. Guys more worried about draft positions that buying into the Team. That WAS the same problem Michigan had, but they fixed it. In all fairness to the guy, after I posted that it was posted that he has had a reoccurring hamstring issue and it has limited his playing time all year. Sounds like OSU hasn’t really benefited from his ability this year. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:24:16 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OSU WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba opting out of the CFP to get healthy for the NFL draft. Damn, that’s wild.  ETA: Didn’t realize that he’s been battling injury. I don’t blame him in that case. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:34:59 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn, that’s wild. ETA: Didn’t realize that he’s been battling injury. I don’t blame him in that case. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OSU WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba opting out of the CFP to get healthy for the NFL draft. Damn, that’s wild. ETA: Didn’t realize that he’s been battling injury. I don’t blame him in that case. He hasn't played the last half of the season. He got hurt early on and tried to come back but was out again after only a play or two. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:37:53 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably doesn’t want the Detroit Lions drafting him. They've won four of their last five games it's not the same old lions. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:42:27 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They've won four of their last five games it's not the same old lions. Lions and Michigan competing for championships? Is this the 90s? |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:44:37 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Money money money. Anyway that's part of the culture problem at OSU I guess. Guys more worried about draft positions than buying into the Team. That WAS the same problem Michigan had, but they fixed it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Uggghhh that's a first I believe. I'd be pissed if I was a teammate. He's quitting on a team playing for a NC. That's not equal to some meaningless bowl game. Money money money. Anyway that's part of the culture problem at OSU I guess. Guys more worried about draft positions than buying into the Team. That WAS the same problem Michigan had, but they fixed it. You don’t have a fucking clue. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:46:33 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lions and Michigan competing for championships? Is this the 90s? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They've won four of their last five games it's not the same old lions. Lions and Michigan competing for championships? Is this the 90s? It's definitely not the same team that lost every game in that season and I had to listen to my wife bitch about why I watch them.
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:48:09 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: does that mean OSU has someone waiting to take his place so he knew his 4 years of playing were all he'd get there? Nope, his backups including Gundy’s son were not very good. He was guaranteed the starting job and would have broken every osu passing record. I’m thinking he’s pissed at Gundy. Sadly I don’t think he lands a starting job equal to osu, there’s way too many Qb’s in the portal for a guy like him to land in a good spot. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:56:37 PM EST
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Per ESPN
Georgia's Stetson Bennett, USC's Caleb Williams, TCU's Max Duggan and Ohio State's C.J. Stroud were announced Monday as the Heisman Trophy finalists. The four quarterbacks, who all play for four of the top-10 teams this season, including three who will play in the College Football Playoff, will be in New York this weekend for the Heisman ceremony Saturday. Monk |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:56:48 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: does that mean OSU has someone waiting to take his place so he knew his 4 years of playing were all he'd get there? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Spencer Sanders to the transfer portal. Didn't see that coming. does that mean OSU has someone waiting to take his place so he knew his 4 years of playing were all he'd get there? They've got Gundy's son, who is freaking useless, as a backup. We will suck even harder next year. Maybe it will be enough to run Gundy out of town. Too bad his buyout went way up with his new contract earlier this year.... 
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Posted: 12/5/2022 6:59:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They've got Gundy's son, who is freaking useless, as a backup. We will suck even harder next year. Maybe it will be enough to run Gundy out of town. Too bad his buyout went way up with his new contract earlier this year.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Spencer Sanders to the transfer portal. Didn't see that coming. does that mean OSU has someone waiting to take his place so he knew his 4 years of playing were all he'd get there? They've got Gundy's son, who is freaking useless, as a backup. We will suck even harder next year. Maybe it will be enough to run Gundy out of town. Too bad his buyout went way up with his new contract earlier this year.... Isn't he the winningest coach at osu? Firing such a coach is bad juju |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 7:01:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't have a fucking clue. What? There is a handful of guys out of Columbus and other parts of Ohio who do sports journalism with ties and access to OSU facilities talking about. lol. I didn't just make that up in my head. |
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