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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:13:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's say he gets convicted and sentenced to jail time. I can't imagine any situation in which he doesn't get pardoned because of the disruption and turmoil it will cause. If a Republican is in office they will pardon him instantly. A Democrat might let him serve one night in prison before pardoning him America isn't going to let a former President die of old age in prison. Not even the people who hate him. Pretty much |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:15:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Secret Service don't mess around! So that raises an interesting hypothetical.. If he goes to prison does secret service accompany him around the yard?  Probably wouldn't need SS as widely popular as Trump is. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:16:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reading the comments on YahPoo stories sickens me, seeing demopedo supporters saying they hope the supporters get the "Ashley Babbitt" treatment, or that the military brings out the miniguns against the crowd. If you say anything pro Trump or anti JoePedo, it gets deleted or pops up for "approval" while shit that SHOULD be blocked is out there, as long as it's anti Trump/Maga. Can you post us some citations to folks hoping someone gets the Ashley Babbitt treatment or government mini guns? |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:43:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump is not going to prison. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Secret Service don't mess around! So that raises an interesting hypothetical.. If he goes to prison does secret service accompany him around the yard? Trump is not going to prison. Yeah I know, but still, I can't shake the mental image of Trump strolling a prison yard with a phalanx of secret service agents |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:44:18 PM EST
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A president chooses what records to return or keep and the National Archives can’t do anything about it.
tl;dr "Judge Berman added that “the PRA contains no provision obligating or even permitting the Archivist to assume control over records that the President ‘categorized’ and ‘filed separately’ as personal records. At the conclusion of the President’s term, the Archivist only ‘assumes responsibility for the Presidential records.’ . . . PRA does not confer any mandatory or even discretionary authority on the Archivist to classify records. Under the statute, this responsibility is left solely to the President.” I lost because Judge Jackson concluded the government’s hands were tied. Mr. Clinton took the tapes, and no one could do anything about it. The same is true with Mr. Trump. Although he didn’t keep records in his sock drawer, he gathered newspapers, press clippings, letters, notes, cards, photographs, documents and other materials in cardboard boxes. Then Mr. Trump, like Mr. Clinton, took those boxes with him when he left office. As of noon on Jan. 20, 2021, whatever remained at the White House was presidential records. Whatever was taken by Mr. Trump wasn’t. That was the position of the Justice Department in 2010 and the ruling by Judge Jackson in 2012. A decade later, the government should never have gone searching for potential presidential records. Nor should it have forcibly taken records from Mr. Trump. The government should lose U.S. v. Trump. If the courts decide otherwise, I want those Clinton tapes." |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:45:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So can someone tell me what this realistically means? Is Trump actually going to face consequences? Or is this a nothingburger? It means he got charged for having and transmitting documents/information he should not have. It also means he will have to be tied up in court defending what is essentially indefensible. It means he got charged for what Clinton did not. Sure that's unfair and it was stupid to do so. But so far all I've seen people here clamor on is just on that fact and not on the actual allegations, that he had something he shouldn't of had and spoke to people about it he shouldn't have. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:50:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A president chooses what records to return or keep and the National Archives can’t do anything about it. tl;dr "Judge Berman added that “the PRA contains no provision obligating or even permitting the Archivist to assume control over records that the President ‘categorized’ and ‘filed separately’ as personal records. At the conclusion of the President’s term, the Archivist only ‘assumes responsibility for the Presidential records.’ . . . PRA does not confer any mandatory or even discretionary authority on the Archivist to classify records. Under the statute, this responsibility is left solely to the President.” I lost because Judge Jackson concluded the government’s hands were tied. Mr. Clinton took the tapes, and no one could do anything about it. The same is true with Mr. Trump. Although he didn’t keep records in his sock drawer, he gathered newspapers, press clippings, letters, notes, cards, photographs, documents and other materials in cardboard boxes. Then Mr. Trump, like Mr. Clinton, took those boxes with him when he left office. As of noon on Jan. 20, 2021, whatever remained at the White House was presidential records. Whatever was taken by Mr. Trump wasn’t. That was the position of the Justice Department in 2010 and the ruling by Judge Jackson in 2012. A decade later, the government should never have gone searching for potential presidential records. Nor should it have forcibly taken records from Mr. Trump. The government should lose U.S. v. Trump. If the courts decide otherwise, I want those Clinton tapes." I don't think the charges against Trump relate to the Presidential Records Act. He's being charged with improper retention or disclosure of sensitive defense information under the Espionage Act. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:55:02 PM EST
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never in a million years did I think this country would turn into the 3rd world shit hole countries that have political opponents arrested...
 Sad times for our country.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 11:22:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: never in a million years did I think this country would turn into the 3rd world shit hole countries that have political opponents arrested... Sad times for our country.For such blatantly bullshit charges. After what the establishment has done to that man. He tried to chock it up to political garbage after the first election. However with what they did to him while he was in office was worse than any setting president in history. It is indisputably criminal what they have done since the last election and what they are doing NOW to him! Not to mention what they HAVE DONE & ARE DOING to this country. They are persecuting conservative values. How long do you think it will be before they are persecuting everyone who has conservative values. Dragging them into court on so-called prohibited speech crimes! Or some other Bullshit taylored targeting law. We are heading straight into 1984! |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 11:28:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty much Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Let's say he gets convicted and sentenced to jail time. I can't imagine any situation in which he doesn't get pardoned because of the disruption and turmoil it will cause. If a Republican is in office they will pardon him instantly. A Democrat might let him serve one night in prison before pardoning him America isn't going to let a former President die of old age in prison. Not even the people who hate him. Pretty much Which is disgusting in itself because it proves there is an "untouchable" elite class. From what I've read he's guilty as sin, but hell so are so many politicians. Again, I ask if politicians were held to the same standard for classified information as a random active duty E4 would we even have any left that weren't locked up? I really doubt it lol |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 1:15:53 AM EST
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 Trump's stop at the well-known Little Havana restaurant had not been announced in advance, but inside were pastors and fervent Trump supporters waiting to pray for him and sing Happy Birthday. He turns 77 on Wednesday. Tapper was irritated by the festive scene from the start. 'And as we watch Donald Trump attempt to turn his arrest and indictment into some sort of campaign commercial, we need to remember that the reason we are watching this is because Donald Trump is accused of breaking some very serious national security laws and then obstructing and refusing to cooperate with the FBI,' said Tapper. After the Versailles restaurant encounter, Trump flew to New Jersey, where he spoke to supporters at his Bedminster golf course. Tapper said CNN 'is not airing the remarks live because he says plenty that is not true, and frankly dangerous.'   Link |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 4:49:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not convinced of that. A democrat is not going to pardon Trump. Republican....might depend on who. Possible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So can someone tell me what this realistically means? Is Trump actually going to face consequences? Or is this a nothingburger? Let's say he gets convicted and sentenced to jail time. I can't imagine any situation in which he doesn't get pardoned because of the disruption and turmoil it will cause. If a Republican is in office they will pardon him instantly. A Democrat might let him serve one night in prison before pardoning him America isn't going to let a former President die of old age in prison. Not even the people who hate him. I am not convinced of that. A democrat is not going to pardon Trump. Republican....might depend on who. Possible. Me either. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 5:16:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think the charges against Trump relate to the Presidential Records Act. He's being charged with improper retention or disclosure of sensitive defense information under the Espionage Act. He did no such thing. Either way, the Presidential Records Act exonerates him automatically because the document possession by the President means they are declassified by the President. Only 2 people can declassify those documents, the Author or the President. Not a Vice President, Secretary of State, not even the SCOTUS. These documents were not nuclear launch codes or attack sub secrets, they were records of Presidential communications. The charges are full on bullshit being pushed by the Biden camp and the communist media. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 5:17:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It means he got charged for having and transmitting documents/information he should not have. It also means he will have to be tied up in court defending what is essentially indefensible. It means he got charged for what Clinton did not. Sure that's unfair and it was stupid to do so. But so far all I've seen people here clamor on is just on that fact and not on the actual allegations, that he had something he shouldn't of had and spoke to people about it he shouldn't have. That’s only the first 31 counts. The last 6 are his efforts to hide the documents, mislead investigators, and failure to comply with the subpoena to turn shit over when demanded. And this is what is going to get him. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 5:46:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are persecuting conservative values. How long do you think it will be before they are persecuting everyone who has conservative values. Dragging them into court on so-called prohibited speech crimes! Or some other Bullshit taylored targeting law. We are heading straight into 1984! When democrat-communist elites blather and drone on about how no one is above the law, what they are really saying is that no conservative is above the law. As for the elites, well, that's (D)ifferent. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 5:57:44 AM EST
[#16]
The past 6 years have been a masterclass in how the Uniparty has infiltrated and corrupted our government, stolen our treasure, assaulted our children, and denied our God given rights. God bless Trump for taking the majority of these arrows and helping to wake the citizens up to the war that is being waged against America.
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Posted: 6/14/2023 8:12:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A president chooses what records to return or keep and the National Archives can’t do anything about it. tl;dr "Judge Berman added that “the PRA contains no provision obligating or even permitting the Archivist to assume control over records that the President ‘categorized’ and ‘filed separately’ as personal records. At the conclusion of the President’s term, the Archivist only ‘assumes responsibility for the Presidential records.’ . . . PRA does not confer any mandatory or even discretionary authority on the Archivist to classify records. Under the statute, this responsibility is left solely to the President.” I lost because Judge Jackson concluded the government’s hands were tied. Mr. Clinton took the tapes, and no one could do anything about it. The same is true with Mr. Trump. Although he didn’t keep records in his sock drawer, he gathered newspapers, press clippings, letters, notes, cards, photographs, documents and other materials in cardboard boxes. Then Mr. Trump, like Mr. Clinton, took those boxes with him when he left office. As of noon on Jan. 20, 2021, whatever remained at the White House was presidential records. Whatever was taken by Mr. Trump wasn’t. That was the position of the Justice Department in 2010 and the ruling by Judge Jackson in 2012. A decade later, the government should never have gone searching for potential presidential records. Nor should it have forcibly taken records from Mr. Trump. The government should lose U.S. v. Trump. If the courts decide otherwise, I want those Clinton tapes." This is the question that Mark Levin asked and one that will be hashed out in court... is classified information a "Presidential record". Its rare that original classification authorities actually state that a document is classified and that decision is often left to the staff or the agency's security classification guide. Now... if POTUS (or WH staff/political appointees) who is an OCA requests a document to be created for decision making then it could be argued that it is a record. So I'm curious how it shakes out as someone who has to give a shit. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 8:22:47 AM EST
[#18]
Trumps smoking hot aide Margo Martin mistaken as Melania.
    Martin, an Oklahoma native, has been with the president dating back to his time at the White House after joining as an advisor from Trump's Save America PAC   Video Melania Trump wore black sun glasses, a trench coat and carried a black Birkin Tuesday in New York while the president was in Miami |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 8:33:40 AM EST
[#19]
 How does Bill Clinton's tapes-in-sock-drawer controversy impact the Trump case |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 9:18:28 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He did no such thing. Either way, the Presidential Records Act exonerates him automatically because the document possession by the President means they are declassified by the President. Only 2 people can declassify those documents, the Author or the President. Not a Vice President, Secretary of State, not even the SCOTUS. These documents were not nuclear launch codes or attack sub secrets, they were records of Presidential communications. The charges are full on bullshit being pushed by the Biden camp and the communist media. Despite the media reports he also isn't being charged with keeping classified information. The charge is that he kept sensitive defense information, regardless of its classification status. To win the case they will need to prove the he had sensitive defense information, knew it was sensitive defense information, and that he intentionally kept it. Classification status is evidence that information is sensitive, but not the only evidence. Information can continue to be sensitive even if it's declassified. So I don't think the records act is going to be a factor here one way or another. It'll come down to what was in those documents. If they are actually legit nuclear secrets, military vulnerabilities and invasion plans then not only is he in hot water but he has really bad judgment. If it turns out they are newspaper clippings that somebody stamped classified then that's another story. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 10:23:08 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Secret Service don't mess around! So that raises an interesting hypothetical.. If he goes to prison does secret service accompany him around the yard? Negative. Secret Service's charter falls under falls under the Department of Treasury, not the Bureau of Prisons, which would fall under the Department of Justice's charter. Not a chance in heaven or hell the DOJ would allow SS agents into a Federal Prison to provide overwatch for Trump. The risk factor of having an ex-POTUS in a prison is far too high. The more likely scenario is that is given home detention. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 10:26:42 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s only the first 31 counts. The last 6 are his efforts to hide the documents, mislead investigators, and failure to comply with the subpoena to turn shit over when demanded. And this is what is going to get him. Also bullshit charges |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 10:28:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The correct answer is the Democrat National Committee. They're behind everything, always. I think you SEVERELY underestimate the number of powerful Republican guard that he insulted, disrespected, PO'd, and tried to roll. If you think only Democrats spurred this, you are fooling yourself. Ask yourself this: Who could have gotten close enough inside his inner circle to get him to open up freely about Classified documents and deliver the evidence? Republicans and Loyalist to the party, or Democrats? Hmmm... |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 10:30:18 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Democrats walk free................same as it ever was. Joe Biden has a classified document problem, but the Left doesnt care No, he doesn't. Because he didn't lie about having them. He didn't try to conceal them. He didn't try to hold back additional documents after being asked to produce any and all in his possession. Trump did. That's the difference which some people seem to not gather. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 10:41:56 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, he doesn't. Because he didn't lie about having them. He didn't try to conceal them. He didn't try to hold back additional documents after being asked to produce any and all in his possession. Trump did. That's the difference which some people seem to gather. lol |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 10:54:10 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, he doesn't. Because he didn't lie about having them. He didn't try to conceal them. He didn't try to hold back additional documents after being asked to produce any and all in his possession. Trump did. That's the difference which some people seem to gather. You must be watching too much MSNBC. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:03:58 AM EST
[#27]
Andrea Mitchell FREEZES on Live TV
 Andrea Mitchell FREEZES on Live TV!!! |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:13:59 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Also bullshit charges Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That’s only the first 31 counts. The last 6 are his efforts to hide the documents, mislead investigators, and failure to comply with the subpoena to turn shit over when demanded. And this is what is going to get him. Also bullshit charges Aren't those derived from his privileged conversations with his attorneys? |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:15:09 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, he doesn't. Because he didn't lie about having them. He didn't try to conceal them. He didn't try to hold back additional documents after being asked to produce any and all in his possession. Trump did. That's the difference which some people seem to not gather. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Democrats walk free................same as it ever was. Joe Biden has a classified document problem, but the Left doesnt care No, he doesn't. Because he didn't lie about having them. He didn't try to conceal them. He didn't try to hold back additional documents after being asked to produce any and all in his possession. Trump did. That's the difference which some people seem to not gather. Out of Biden, and Trump, which one was legally allowed to have them? |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:16:50 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You must be watching too much MSNBC. You must not being paying attention. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:19:30 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Out of Biden, and Trump, which one was legally allowed to have them? As Biden is current sitting Commander in Chief, and Trump is a civilian. Biden. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:20:49 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As Biden is current sitting Commander in Chief, and Trump is a civilian. Biden. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Out of Biden, and Trump, which one was legally allowed to have them? As Biden is current sitting Commander in Chief, and Trump is a civilian. Biden.  Attached FileBiden was a senator, and VP when he took the docs. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:24:15 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You must not being paying attention. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:24:45 AM EST
[#34]
 The Other GOP Presidential Candidates Seem to Think Trump's Indictment Will Benefit Them |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:26:43 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aren't those derived from his privileged conversations with his attorneys? Any conversation with an attorney that is in furtherance, conspiracy, accessory, concealment of a crime are not privileged. This is well understood legal principle covered under the 'The Crime-Fraud Exception' of Attorney-Client privilege. Also why most of the Mob was brought down and a number of RICO cases are successful. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:28:47 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Biden was a senator, and VP when he took the docs. ... and now that he is President, he can "whisper them" into declassification as is the same argument Trump supporters have made. "Oh this stuff, I declassified it last Tuesday. You didn't get the memo?" Attached File |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:33:01 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As Biden is current sitting Commander in Chief, and Trump is a civilian. Biden. lol . You claim others don't pay attention ? |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:34:09 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ... and now that he is President, he can "whisper them" into declassification as is the same argument Trump supporters have made. "Oh this stuff, I declassified it last Tuesday. You didn't get the memo?" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/476-342.gif Are you serious or just trolling at this point ? |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:45:53 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any conversation with an attorney that is in furtherance, conspiracy, accessory, concealment of a crime are not privileged. This is well understood legal principle covered under the 'The Crime-Fraud Exception' of Attorney-Client privilege. Also why most of the Mob was brought down and a number of RICO cases are successful. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Aren't those derived from his privileged conversations with his attorneys? Any conversation with an attorney that is in furtherance, conspiracy, accessory, concealment of a crime are not privileged. This is well understood legal principle covered under the 'The Crime-Fraud Exception' of Attorney-Client privilege. Also why most of the Mob was brought down and a number of RICO cases are successful. Bullshit. He was asking questions, not conspiring. IF the reports are correct, and I'm 99% sure they aren't. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:46:49 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ... and now that he is President, he can "whisper them" into declassification as is the same argument Trump supporters have made. "Oh this stuff, I declassified it last Tuesday. You didn't get the memo?" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/476-342.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Biden was a senator, and VP when he took the docs. ... and now that he is President, he can "whisper them" into declassification as is the same argument Trump supporters have made. "Oh this stuff, I declassified it last Tuesday. You didn't get the memo?" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/476-342.gif The crime has already been committed. What are your intentions here? |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:52:43 AM EST
[#41]
All I have to say at this point is damn underscore users!
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Posted: 6/14/2023 11:53:04 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Out of Biden, and Trump, which one was legally allowed to have them? 
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Posted: 6/14/2023 12:06:57 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you serious or just trolling at this point ? I am not trolling at all. This may appear as such to the few who truly do not understand what the charges in the case hinge on and what occurred leading up to this. (Which it appears they do not, as they keep bring up Biden (not Pence funny enough)). I'll simplify to a point where a 10 year-old should be able to comprehend. When Federal Investigators asked if Biden, Pence, and Trump materials still in their possession which they should not have: A. Biden and Pence provided any and all access, discovery, surrendered said materials. B. Trump did not, lied that he had nothing else, but knowingly had articles which he did not clear and did not submit and exhibitioned them to non-T/S, non-T/S SCI, non-Secret cleared persons. Trump was given a "free pass" opportunity like his counterparts, and instead he blew it. DOJ is like: "I offered you a chance when we could have done something and you BLEW IT! You blew it."  COPLAND - BLEW IT |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 12:10:32 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The crime has already been committed. What are your intentions here? Doesn’t matter in the end. The govt only cares when Trump breaks the law. Joe can do whatever he wants. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 12:13:37 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not trolling at all. This may appear as such to the few who truly do not understand what the charges in the case hinge on and what occurred leading up to this. (Which it appears they do not, as they keep bring up Biden (not Pence funny enough)). I'll simplify to a point where a 10 year-old should be able to comprehend. When Federal Investigators asked if Biden, Pence, and Trump materials still in their possession which they should not have: A. Biden and Pence provided any and all access, discovery, surrendered said materials. B. Trump did not, lied that he had nothing else, but knowingly had articles which he did not clear and did not submit and exhibitioned them to non-T/S, non-T/S SCI, non-Secret cleared persons. Trump was given a "free pass" opportunity like his counterparts, and instead he blew it. DOJ is like: "I offered you a chance when we could have done something and you BLEW IT! You blew it."  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYaOJdVbK4cThat's a lot of words to say you don't know what you're talking about but I guess they got him this time . |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 12:21:44 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The crime has already been committed. What are your intentions here? So you admit, Trump is guilty. Thank you. Because I was using the same affirmative defense argument Trump supporters were in fact using. As Supreme OCA may, they may declassify anything at any time. Even articles not already declassed when previously in their possession. If would be incredibly hard to take a current sitting President and bag them on classified materials handing charges ex-post facto of their Presidency. But let's run this Whataboutism scenario... Here's how it would play out: Joe is indicted and convicted. He hands the Resolute Desk to Kamala Harris. Kamala pardons Joe. Kamala is now your CIC. Yikes! Do you want Kamala Harris as your President? |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 12:29:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a lot of words to say you don't know what you're talking about but I guess they got him this time . Ever take a beat to consider perhaps it is you who doesn't know what they're writing about? Did you read the indictment counts? I have. pp. 34-44 for brevity. All deal with concealment, false statements, withholding. https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/06/trump-indictment.pdf For these charges, it wouldn't matter if they were his Grandma's Pound Cake Recipe or NRC/EIA Nuclear Secrets. If this was requested for production in the warrant, and he concealed, lied, or withheld them - he blew it. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 12:32:17 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn’t matter in the end. The govt only cares when Trump breaks the law. Joe can do whatever he wants. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The crime has already been committed. What are your intentions here? Doesn’t matter in the end. The govt only cares when Trump breaks the law. Joe can do whatever he wants. Correct. I don't believe Trump broke the law though. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 12:33:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you admit, Trump is guilty. Thank you. Because I was using the same affirmative defense argument Trump supporters were in fact using. As Supreme OCA may, they may declassify anything at any time. Even articles not already declassed when previously in their possession. If would be incredibly hard to take a current sitting President and bag them on classified materials handing charges ex-post facto of their Presidency. But let's run this Whataboutism scenario... Here's how it would play out: Joe is indicted and convicted. He hands the Resolute Desk to Kamala Harris. Kamala pardons Joe. Kamala is now your CIC. Yikes! Do you want Kamala Harris as your President? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The crime has already been committed. What are your intentions here? So you admit, Trump is guilty. Thank you. Because I was using the same affirmative defense argument Trump supporters were in fact using. As Supreme OCA may, they may declassify anything at any time. Even articles not already declassed when previously in their possession. If would be incredibly hard to take a current sitting President and bag them on classified materials handing charges ex-post facto of their Presidency. But let's run this Whataboutism scenario... Here's how it would play out: Joe is indicted and convicted. He hands the Resolute Desk to Kamala Harris. Kamala pardons Joe. Kamala is now your CIC. Yikes! Do you want Kamala Harris as your President?  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 12:39:24 PM EST
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