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Posted: 6/4/2014 2:40:49 PM EDT
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lmao....no..It was Japan that attacked us.....not Germany. Animal House is NOT US history. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You did try to avoid it, but you were attacked. Don't they teach you anything in schools? lmao....no..It was Japan that attacked us.....not Germany. Animal House is NOT US history. Germany was allied with Japan, and declared war on you. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 3:06:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He didn't look to be in acute distress in the video. I thought he was supposed to be on the verge of death.... Even MSNBC talking head said he looked pretty healthy.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 3:08:24 PM EDT
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Wag, wag, wag.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 3:29:37 PM EDT
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No its not. The people in the Jeans were likely from the state department along with SF escorts. He was living with the enemy for the better part of 5 years and willingly defected.. Who is to say he didn't have a suicide vest under his man dress. Blow up the bird, SF operators and state department folks Taliban takes a huge shit on our POS president and we look like fools. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting that the flight crew frisked him before he got on the helicopter. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No its not. The people in the Jeans were likely from the state department along with SF escorts. He was living with the enemy for the better part of 5 years and willingly defected.. Who is to say he didn't have a suicide vest under his man dress. Blow up the bird, SF operators and state department folks Taliban takes a huge shit on our POS president and we look like fools. I would guess they were worried more about their own safety than the foreigner's image |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 3:30:59 PM EDT
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Bull. F*cking. Sh*t. They hated us before Gitmo, and they'll hate us LONG after it's eventually closed. For Christ's sweet sake, they're still blaming us for the friggin' Crusades. The only thing you can do with people that heavily invested is to kill them. Preferably as quickly as possible, and in as great of numbers as possible. And that's just the ugly truth. I refuse to play the "why do they hate us??" game... that's for suckers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It gets Americans killed whether you care or not. I seem to recall plenty of Americans getting killed by radical islamists before there was ever a Gitmo. In fact, we set up Gitmo precisely because there were so many Americans dead at islamist hands that we were pretty much forced to go hunt them down to interrupt other plans to kill Americans. Executing terrorists isn't "illegal", either. We could very easily have tried them and executed them like we did Germans and Japanese in WW2. As it stands, Gitmo is a valuable propaganda tool for anyone who hates the US. To Al Qaida it's the gift that keeps on giving. It's short sighted and counter productive to keep them. Now the problem won't go away. Bull. F*cking. Sh*t. They hated us before Gitmo, and they'll hate us LONG after it's eventually closed. For Christ's sweet sake, they're still blaming us for the friggin' Crusades. The only thing you can do with people that heavily invested is to kill them. Preferably as quickly as possible, and in as great of numbers as possible. And that's just the ugly truth. I refuse to play the "why do they hate us??" game... that's for suckers. The GrayMan speaks the absolute truth |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 3:39:50 PM EDT
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I can understand not leaving a American behind as we exit the war. But if this guy was a deserter then fuckem I guess.
If the military is happy with this trade then I'm happy. If the military wants to put him on trial for desertion, I'm good with that also. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 3:40:29 PM EDT
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White House appears to be doubling down, almost every other Democrat is backpedaling. Also some convenient leaks about how Clinton wasn't going to play ball with the Taliban.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 3:41:39 PM EDT
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The GrayMan speaks the absolute truth Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It gets Americans killed whether you care or not. I seem to recall plenty of Americans getting killed by radical islamists before there was ever a Gitmo. In fact, we set up Gitmo precisely because there were so many Americans dead at islamist hands that we were pretty much forced to go hunt them down to interrupt other plans to kill Americans. Executing terrorists isn't "illegal", either. We could very easily have tried them and executed them like we did Germans and Japanese in WW2. As it stands, Gitmo is a valuable propaganda tool for anyone who hates the US. To Al Qaida it's the gift that keeps on giving. It's short sighted and counter productive to keep them. Now the problem won't go away. Bull. F*cking. Sh*t. They hated us before Gitmo, and they'll hate us LONG after it's eventually closed. For Christ's sweet sake, they're still blaming us for the friggin' Crusades. The only thing you can do with people that heavily invested is to kill them. Preferably as quickly as possible, and in as great of numbers as possible. And that's just the ugly truth. I refuse to play the "why do they hate us??" game... that's for suckers. The GrayMan speaks the absolute truth Maybe the Swedish fellow thinks it's a good propaganda tool for the democrats. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 3:42:40 PM EDT
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I can understand not leaving a American behind as we exit the war. But if this guy was a deserter then fuckem I guess. If the military is happy with this trade then I'm happy. If the military wants to put him on trial for desertion, I'm good with that also. The Military had little to do with other than following orders. I would be willing to guess that this little trade was offered a while ago and the administration decided now was a good time to give it GO to try to gain back some lost cred over VA scandals. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 3:45:08 PM EDT
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The Military had little to do with other than following orders. I would be willing to guess that this little trade was offered a while ago and the administration decided now was a good time to give it GO to try to gain back some lost cred over VA scandals. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can understand not leaving a American behind as we exit the war. But if this guy was a deserter then fuckem I guess. If the military is happy with this trade then I'm happy. If the military wants to put him on trial for desertion, I'm good with that also. The Military had little to do with other than following orders. I would be willing to guess that this little trade was offered a while ago and the administration decided now was a good time to give it GO to try to gain back some lost cred over VA scandals. How do you feel about the trade? |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 3:57:14 PM EDT
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when people want to kill Americans, I really don't give a shit if they are locked away on a corner of an island, given a third eye by a sniper, or blown to smithereens
by a hellfire missle launched from a drone. rules or not, gtfo |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 4:11:22 PM EDT
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Even MSNBC story comments are nearly entirely anti-0 on this. Some even questioning his mental health. That's a good sign.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 4:18:46 PM EDT
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You did try to avoid it, but you were attacked. Don't they teach you anything in schools? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You did try to avoid it, but you were attacked. Don't they teach you anything in schools? We weren't as good as Sweeden was at dodging. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 4:25:52 PM EDT
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Taliban released a video of the handover
Taliban had lots of guys on overwatch, at least one with an RPG. US had 2 blackhawks and I'm sure a lot more stuff out of sight. They shake hands and wave to each other. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 4:29:27 PM EDT
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I wish we had never closed ADAK.
It would have made a much better facility for the Taliban than Gitmo. Glorious Aleutian weather. Lots of fish heads to eat. Frigid waters. Just....lovely. "You have been found guilty of taking up arms against the United States of America and its allies as a stateless combatant. You are hereby sentenced to a minimum of ten years confinement or until official cessation of hostilities. At the end of your first ten year period of confinement your status will be automatically reviewed and adjudicated appropriately. Have a lovely Aleutian day." |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 4:32:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish we had never closed ADAK. It would have made a much better facility for the Taliban than Gitmo. Glorious Aleutian weather. Lots of fish heads to eat. Frigid waters. Just....lovely. "You have been found guilty of taking up arms against the United States of America and its allies as a stateless combatant. You are hereby sentenced to a minimum of ten years confinement or until official cessation of hostilities. At the end of your first ten year period of confinement your status will be automatically reviewed and adjudicated appropriately. Have a lovely Aleutian day." |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 4:38:14 PM EDT
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I've heard that Gitmo was selected, at least in some part, because it was not in the US. For jurisdiction purposes. Yes, it was a politically expedient decision until the status of the Taliban captives could be legally determined. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth about bringing in the Taliban to "try them in US courts." In the end Gitmo was probably not meant as a destination, just a cruise layover. Now I want a mojito. I hate those fucking Taliban bastards. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 4:38:20 PM EDT
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Germany was allied with Japan, and declared war on you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You did try to avoid it, but you were attacked. Don't they teach you anything in schools? lmao....no..It was Japan that attacked us.....not Germany. Animal House is NOT US history. Germany was allied with Japan, and declared war on you. That's not what you said, and the subject was Europe, not Japan. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 4:39:30 PM EDT
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It gets Americans killed whether you care or not. I seem to recall plenty of Americans getting killed by radical islamists before there was ever a Gitmo. In fact, we set up Gitmo precisely because there were so many Americans dead at islamist hands that we were pretty much forced to go hunt them down to interrupt other plans to kill Americans. Executing terrorists isn't "illegal", either. We could very easily have tried them and executed them like we did Germans and Japanese in WW2. As it stands, Gitmo is a valuable propaganda tool for anyone who hates the US. To Al Qaida it's the gift that keeps on giving. It's short sighted and counter productive to keep them. Now the problem won't go away. Bull. F*cking. Sh*t. They hated us before Gitmo, and they'll hate us LONG after it's eventually closed. For Christ's sweet sake, they're still blaming us for the friggin' Crusades. The only thing you can do with people that heavily invested is to kill them. Preferably as quickly as possible, and in as great of numbers as possible. And that's just the ugly truth. I refuse to play the "why do they hate us??" game... that's for suckers. The GrayMan speaks the absolute truth No kidding...they are the reason for the founding of the US Navy. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 4:41:09 PM EDT
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I've heard that Gitmo was selected, at least in some part, because it was not in the US. For jurisdiction purposes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish we had never closed ADAK. It would have made a much better facility for the Taliban than Gitmo. Glorious Aleutian weather. Lots of fish heads to eat. Frigid waters. Just....lovely. "You have been found guilty of taking up arms against the United States of America and its allies as a stateless combatant. You are hereby sentenced to a minimum of ten years confinement or until official cessation of hostilities. At the end of your first ten year period of confinement your status will be automatically reviewed and adjudicated appropriately. Have a lovely Aleutian day." Bush DOJ opined that GITMO would be outside US Jurisdiction re: habeas corpus, UCMJ, etc. The supreme court disagreed. Whoops. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 4:49:51 PM EDT
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Bush DOJ opined that GITMO would be outside US Jurisdiction re: habeas corpus, UCMJ, etc. The supreme court disagreed. Whoops. Badfish, IIRC you got the legal chops. What in your opinion would have been the correct approach? I know this is hindsight, but I am curious. What was the misstep? |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 4:57:22 PM EDT
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Badfish, IIRC you got the legal chops. What in your opinion would have been the correct approach? I know this is hindsight, but I am curious. What was the misstep? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bush DOJ opined that GITMO would be outside US Jurisdiction re: habeas corpus, UCMJ, etc. The supreme court disagreed. Whoops. Badfish, IIRC you got the legal chops. What in your opinion would have been the correct approach? I know this is hindsight, but I am curious. What was the misstep? The supreme court in Boumedine, I think, indicated that if the prisoners were kept in the territory they were captured in, Habeas Corpus wouldn't apply. That would have been the way to go, IIRC. But a lot of the Bush DOJ's other opinions were flat-out wrong as well, regardless of where the prisoners were held. An example would be the idea that no part of the Geneva conventions applies to these detainess. Geneva Common Article 3 clearly does, and the Supreme Court held as much in one of the Rumsfeld cases. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 6:17:28 PM EDT
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That's not what you said, and the subject was Europe, not Japan. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You did try to avoid it, but you were attacked. Don't they teach you anything in schools? lmao....no..It was Japan that attacked us.....not Germany. Animal House is NOT US history. Germany was allied with Japan, and declared war on you. That's not what you said, and the subject was Europe, not Japan. So the Pacific theatre wasn't a part of WWII? |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 6:21:44 PM EDT
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I can understand not leaving a American behind as we exit the war. But if this guy was a deserter then fuckem I guess. If the military is happy with this trade then I'm happy. If the military wants to put him on trial for desertion, I'm good with that also. I am not happy. Assuming that he at best a deserter and at worst a traitor, releasing the five Taliban terrorists was unacceptable. Better that he die there than release people who probably are plotting to kill Americans as we speak. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 7:38:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/4/2014 8:00:37 PM EDT
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I would be willing to guess that this little trade was offered a while ago and the administration decided now was a good time to give it GO to try to gain back some lost cred over VA scandals. You would be correct. A Congresswoman from Florida (on the Oversight Cmte.) just stated they told the administration in 2011 to NOT do this exact trade. In 2011! The NYT ran a story a year ago specifically naming the 5 turned over. Carney questioned about it, said they would not violate the law, blah, blah, law, blah. SoS Clinton sent a letter to Senate Cmte. stating they were aware of the 30 day law and would not violate it. Sen. Chambless just came out of a closed door hearing and said the administration knew days before the transfer took place and just choose not to notify Congress. He said the "health issues" cited were absolutely false. Other than that, he had more question than information after the hearing. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 8:43:35 PM EDT
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A bit of devil's advocacy. Once we leave Afghanistan, we have no basis for indefinitely holding Taliban members. Did Afghanistan become Talibanistan? Aren't the Taliban a transnational group that is fighting against the governments of Afghanistan and Pakistan? |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 8:44:47 PM EDT
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We've given Taliban members POW status. Given that they were fighting for the state of Afghanistan... So they take orders from Hamid Karzai? |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 8:50:31 PM EDT
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............... The problem is that the indefinite detention is a source of embarrassment for the US, and it will continue as long as the prisoners remain. It would have been better to interrogate them in secret, and then simply kill them. Instead you're pretty much stuck with them now. Do. Not. Care. It gets Americans killed whether you care or not. Is there any other bevavior that we should change to avoid having them kill us? Praying to Jesus? Allowing women to vote? |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 8:52:17 PM EDT
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You would be correct. A Congresswoman from Florida (on the Oversight Cmte.) just stated they told the administration in 2011 to NOT do this exact trade. In 2011! The NYT ran a story a year ago specifically naming the 5 turned over. Carney questioned about it, said they would not violate the law, blah, blah, law, blah. SoS Clinton sent a letter to Senate Cmte. stating they were aware of the 30 day law and would not violate it. Sen. Chambless just came out of a closed door hearing and said the administration knew days before the transfer took place and just choose not to notify Congress. He said the "health issues" cited were absolutely false. Other than that, he had more question than information after the hearing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would be willing to guess that this little trade was offered a while ago and the administration decided now was a good time to give it GO to try to gain back some lost cred over VA scandals. You would be correct. A Congresswoman from Florida (on the Oversight Cmte.) just stated they told the administration in 2011 to NOT do this exact trade. In 2011! The NYT ran a story a year ago specifically naming the 5 turned over. Carney questioned about it, said they would not violate the law, blah, blah, law, blah. SoS Clinton sent a letter to Senate Cmte. stating they were aware of the 30 day law and would not violate it. Sen. Chambless just came out of a closed door hearing and said the administration knew days before the transfer took place and just choose not to notify Congress. He said the "health issues" cited were absolutely false. Other than that, he had more question than information after the hearing. Yeah, and White Hoise aides have been reported to be dismayed that Bergdahl's squadmates are speaking out against him. The White House really thought this was going to be Obama rescuing a POW hero to take away from the VA scandal. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 9:03:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You would be correct. A Congresswoman from Florida (on the Oversight Cmte.) just stated they told the administration in 2011 to NOT do this exact trade. In 2011! The NYT ran a story a year ago specifically naming the 5 turned over. Carney questioned about it, said they would not violate the law, blah, blah, law, blah. SoS Clinton sent a letter to Senate Cmte. stating they were aware of the 30 day law and would not violate it. Sen. Chambless just came out of a closed door hearing and said the administration knew days before the transfer took place and just choose not to notify Congress. He said the "health issues" cited were absolutely false. Other than that, he had more question than information after the hearing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would be willing to guess that this little trade was offered a while ago and the administration decided now was a good time to give it GO to try to gain back some lost cred over VA scandals. You would be correct. A Congresswoman from Florida (on the Oversight Cmte.) just stated they told the administration in 2011 to NOT do this exact trade. In 2011! The NYT ran a story a year ago specifically naming the 5 turned over. Carney questioned about it, said they would not violate the law, blah, blah, law, blah. SoS Clinton sent a letter to Senate Cmte. stating they were aware of the 30 day law and would not violate it. Sen. Chambless just came out of a closed door hearing and said the administration knew days before the transfer took place and just choose not to notify Congress. He said the "health issues" cited were absolutely false. Other than that, he had more question than information after the hearing. NOTHING this Administration has ever said or done has ever been done HONESTLY or TRUTHFULLY. And there is no reason whatsoever to discount the evidence that this Bergdahl character INTENTIONALLY gave himself over to the Taliban SPECIFICALLY for the purpose of being used to gain the release of Gitmo prisoners. His father's words and his own words make that perfectly clear. This guy is a fucking TRAITOR. Hang him.  |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 9:14:53 PM EDT
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Just listening to Buck Sexon on Megan Kelly's show. He pointed out the symbolism of Bergdahl's release video filmed by the Taliban which showed him being completely shaved (entire body ) and meek while the 5 released Taliban had total beards and appeared strong when greeted in Qatar. The two pictures totally emasculate the USA from a jihadist perspective.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 9:31:20 PM EDT
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The White House has figured it out why you're all so mad. Racism!
White House aides were aware Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl had been tagged a deserter, and that they would be grilled over not keeping Congress in the loop. But they figured people would be most outraged over the national security implications.
The White House has been surprised by how much attention has remained on the questions about Bergdahl, from the circumstances of his disappearance to the wild beard his father grew while he was being held that’s even led to Bergdahl’s hometown canceling a celebration. All this, Obama aides say, is in their minds a proxy for the hatred toward the president. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/white-house-bowe-bergdahl-107452.html#ixzz33iPhJdKE |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 10:02:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/4/2014 10:19:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The White House has figured it out why you're all so mad. Racism! http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/white-house-bowe-bergdahl-107452.html#ixzz33iPhJdKE Quote HistoryQuoted: The White House has figured it out why you're all so mad. Racism! White House aides were aware Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl had been tagged a deserter, and that they would be grilled over not keeping Congress in the loop. But they figured people would be most outraged over the national security implications. The White House has been surprised by how much attention has remained on the questions about Bergdahl, from the circumstances of his disappearance to the wild beard his father grew while he was being held that’s even led to Bergdahl’s hometown canceling a celebration. All this, Obama aides say, is in their minds a proxy for the hatred toward the president. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/white-house-bowe-bergdahl-107452.html#ixzz33iPhJdKE Ho-lee-fook. They are some delusional mofos.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 10:29:34 PM EDT
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The White House has figured it out why you're all so mad. Racism! White House aides were aware Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl had been tagged a deserter, and that they would be grilled over not keeping Congress in the loop. But they figured people would be most outraged over the national security implications.
The White House has been surprised by how much attention has remained on the questions about Bergdahl, from the circumstances of his disappearance to the wild beard his father grew while he was being held that’s even led to Bergdahl’s hometown canceling a celebration. All this, Obama aides say, is in their minds a proxy for the hatred toward the president. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/white-house-bowe-bergdahl-107452.html#ixzz33iPhJdKE Ho-lee-fook. They are some delusional mofos. I'll admit that if it had been the Bush admin that did this, I would consider it a stupid trade which made us look weak, and I'd be equally glad that this dude was getting blasted out of the "Hero" saddle right quick. But I'd just consider it stupid, not malicious. Since it's the Obama admin, yeah, I'm really enjoying seeing him burn over it. I can admit that. 
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:20:40 PM EDT
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All of the soldiers who have come forward to speak about Bergdahl are going to be slimed & slandered as much as possible.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:27:54 PM EDT
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All of the soldiers who have come forward to speak about Bergdahl are going to be slimed & slandered as much as possible. http://theobamadiary.com/2014/06/04/agendas/ http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025050773 Of course. Anything for sheeple to protect their Fuhrer. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:28:43 PM EDT
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Quote Historysure looks like he was deathly ill (reason they had to act according to S. Rice) 
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:32:07 PM EDT
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In wars we could have avoided, but chose not to?
You did try to avoid it, but you were attacked. Don't they teach you anything in schools? Last time I checked we weren't attacked by any European countries, so you may want to try again. Sure, Hitler declared war on us, but there wasn't a damn thing he could have done to actually inflict any harm on us. We could have easily said "cool story bro" and not done shit. So, try again. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:40:04 PM EDT
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The White House has figured it out why you're all so mad. Racism! http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/white-house-bowe-bergdahl-107452.html#ixzz33iPhJdKE Quote HistoryQuoted:
The White House has figured it out why you're all so mad. Racism! White House aides were aware Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl had been tagged a deserter, and that they would be grilled over not keeping Congress in the loop. But they figured people would be most outraged over the national security implications.
The White House has been surprised by how much attention has remained on the questions about Bergdahl, from the circumstances of his disappearance to the wild beard his father grew while he was being held that’s even led to Bergdahl’s hometown canceling a celebration. All this, Obama aides say, is in their minds a proxy for the hatred toward the president. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/white-house-bowe-bergdahl-107452.html#ixzz33iPhJdKE He's a politician and a scummy one (as if there are any other kinds) at that. This man has done nothing else his entire life other than politics. He simply cannot comprehend what it means for a soldier to desert and leave his brothers behind. The betrayal that is felt, especially when teammates are killed because of it. This can be the only explanation for their astonishment at the backlash over the desertion issue. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:47:23 PM EDT
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We've given Taliban members POW status. Given that they were fighting for the state of Afghanistan... So they take orders from Hamid Karzai? So we defeat Germany and all those soldiers we captured are no longer POWs? When did the Taliban (a government in exile) formally surrender to the United States of America? I also seem to recall something called the Nuremberg Trials and subsequent imprisonment as well as execution of a number of war criminals. |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:50:58 PM EDT
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We've given Taliban members POW status. Given that they were fighting for the state of Afghanistan... So they take orders from Hamid Karzai? So we defeat Germany and all those soldiers we captured are no longer POWs? Nazi terrorists captured fighting against Helmut Kohl? |
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:57:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:59:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The White House has figured it out why you're all so mad. Racism! http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/white-house-bowe-bergdahl-107452.html#ixzz33iPhJdKE Quote HistoryQuoted: The White House has figured it out why you're all so mad. Racism! White House aides were aware Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl had been tagged a deserter, and that they would be grilled over not keeping Congress in the loop. But they figured people would be most outraged over the national security implications. The White House has been surprised by how much attention has remained on the questions about Bergdahl, from the circumstances of his disappearance to the wild beard his father grew while he was being held that’s even led to Bergdahl’s hometown canceling a celebration. All this, Obama aides say, is in their minds a proxy for the hatred toward the president. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/white-house-bowe-bergdahl-107452.html#ixzz33iPhJdKE They're so clueless. So....so....clueless. This guy gets why.... http://www.nationalreview.com/article/379481/why-team-obama-was-blindsided-bergdahl-backlash-ralph-peters I actually believe that Ms. Rice was kind of sincere, in her spectacularly oblivious way. In the best Manchurian Candidate manner, she said what she had been programmed to say by her political culture, then she was blindsided by the firestorm she ignited by scratching two flinty words together. At least she didn’t blame Bergdahl’s desertion on a video. The president, too, appears stunned. He has so little understanding of (or interest in) the values and traditions of our troops that he and his advisers really believed that those in uniform would erupt into public joy at the news of Bergdahl’s release — as D.C. frat kids did when Osama bin Laden’s death was trumpeted. Both President Obama and Ms. Rice seem to think that the crime of desertion in wartime is kind of like skipping class. They have no idea of how great a sin desertion in the face of the enemy is to those in our military. The only worse sin is to side actively with the enemy and kill your brothers in arms. This is not sleeping in on Monday morning and ducking Gender Studies 101. |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 12:03:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course. Anything for sheeple to protect their Fuhrer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: All of the soldiers who have come forward to speak about Bergdahl are going to be slimed & slandered as much as possible. http://theobamadiary.com/2014/06/04/agendas/ http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025050773 Of course. Anything for sheeple to protect their Fuhrer. Holy shit at the woman claiming to be cody's ex-wife... |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 1:07:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/5/2014 1:50:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/5/2014 2:06:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why aren't we blaming the SF team who went to pick up Bergdahl? They could have refused the mission. Do you even comprehend how the military works? http://www.libertystickers.com/static/images/productimage-picture-i_was_just_following_orders-99.gif http://www.libertystickers.com/static/images/productimage-picture-i_was_just_following_orders-99.gif |
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Posted: 6/5/2014 2:07:10 AM EDT
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