Well, apparently he lawyered up and his attorney has
contacted the police according to NBC news on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4xNs0HwQ7c

Leaving the scene was stupid but glad he lawyered up...thats smart.   The so called "anchor shot" looked more like an Accidental Discharge" to me  he was grabbing the money with his off hand and had a sympothetic response....that is why you keep your booger hook off the bang switcb

They wanted to find him only to tell him Gracias.

On a side note never get in the way of a man finishing his Caldo de Res

His cafe buddy laid back the whole time. That smiling "you boss" look at the end...

He might be from Brazil originally. They allow that in Brazil. Might even encourage it.

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Unless they're looking to reimburse him for his meal and ammo and thank him for his heroism, they should leave him alone. However, "questions" does not sound like they want to do that.

Looks like the shooter wasn't the only one that prefers to mind his own business.  I kind of want to move to that neighborhood.

Can’t risk that any other robber homies were on the way.

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I get it.
Do the needful and get back to life.
It's a sad state of affairs when we have to consider the heroes legal status.
He just did what needed to be done.

Is that a law or just a procedure?  Important distinction.

After throwing the robbers fake gun across the room when he realizes it isn't real.

Leaving the scene was smart.

Why would anyone stick around for the stiff’s friends to show up, or wait for the cops so he can make incriminating remarks or constrain his defense?

GTFO and STFU.

Technically not. But it’s Harris County.

I had that thought early on. I've seen plenty of videos of bad guys getting favela justice, and the shooter's actions kinda had that vibe.

Some people simply don’t understand these simple facts. Act like the idiot who was robbing the restaurant will get you killed and no one is going to give a shit that you died.

That criminal will never hurt anyone ever again. Shame it's generally not kosher with the law.

Bang your dead

10 or maybe even 5 years ago I would have cared about the anchor shot. Now? I'm voting not guilty on that jury all day long.

You can't jail him if the governor has pardoned him.

I nominate you as least retarded 22'er of the class.

My only comment thus far:

Screen name does not fit

And a lot are members of GD

That's funny, everyone including the victims left the scene before the cops got there. Only the mexican music and the dead body were there.


A customer fatally shot a robber in the head after he held up a Texas restaurant with a fake gun - and police are now searching for the vigilante who helped get the stolen money back to the patrons.  

The robber, believed to be in his 20s, entered Ranchito #4 Taqueria in southwest Houston on Thursday night wearing a black ski mask and gloves before ambushing 10 customers and demanding their money at gunpoint.

Footage shows the shouting man wave what is believed to be a pistol around the restaurant, while customers drop to the ground and hand over their belongings.



But as the man headed towards the door, one of the patrons - described by police as either white or Hispanic - produced his own gun and shot the robber.

He fired nine times - one of which was in the head - causing him to collapse to the ground. The customer, wearing a grey t-shirt and jeans, then collected the stolen money and cellphones and started handing it back to the people they were taken from.

Police have not filed any charges and just want to speak to the customer.




Self defense or excessive force: Will the shooter face charges? 

In Texas, people are allowed to use fatal force when they believe their life or another party's life is in immediate danger.

Experts say that Texas law also outlines specific instances for aggravated robbery where deadly force is completely justified. 

In this case, where the person he shot was in the process of committing an 'armed' robbery, the customer's use of deadly force in self defense is allowed.

He would have also reasonably been in fear of serious bodily injury or death, believing the robber had a gun.

The defense can be used as a defense to homicide charges. It is legal to kill someone in self defense in Texas if:

1. You reasonably believe that there is an imminent danger of you or someone else being seriously injured or killed.

2. Your use of deadly force was necessary and appropriate at the time you used it.





Pedro Lopez, owner of the taqueria, said he and his employees are still in shock but he is glad that his staff and customers were unharmed in the shooting



He then fled the scene in a dusty pickup truck at around 11:30pm on January 5, along with the other customers in the taqueria on South Gessner Road.  

Investigators say that they want to track down to the pictured man for his role in the shooting - and that no charges have been filed yet. 

The identity of the robber has not yet been released - but police believe the gun he was waving around the restaurant may have been a plastic BB gun. 

HPD Homicide Division Sergeants M. Arrington, C. Duncan and Detectives S. Overstreet and L. Lovelace said in a report: 'Officers were dispatched to a shooting call at the restaurant at the above address and observed an unknown black male in all black clothing, a black ski mask, and black gloves had been shot multiple times inside the business. 

'Paramedics pronounced him deceased. Witnesses told officers the suspect entered the restaurant and pointed a pistol at patrons as he demanded their money. 

'As the suspect collected money from patrons, one of the patrons, described as a white or Hispanic male, produced a gun of his own and shot the suspect multiple times. 

'The shooter collected the stolen money from the suspect and returned the money to other patrons. He and other patrons (victims) then fled the scene.'

Pedro Lopez, owner of the taqueria, said he and his employees are still in shock. 

He told ABC13: 'Everyone was scared, nervous. I was too. Some customers were seated here, others were over there, he go the money and was going to leave

'You never really know what is going to happen.'



Cops have also released an image of the vehicle that the man who killed the robber fled the scene in.



It is a 1970s or '80s model pickup truck with no bed in a rusty-red color. Cops are hoping that this may lead them to the man they are wishing to speak to. 

Experts believe that the customer will most likely not face charges - as his use of excessive, deadly force was justified considering the circumstances. 

Former Houston police officer, now lawyer, Thomas Nixon said: 'The person he shot was in the process of committing robbery and consequently his use of force in defense of himself and innocent third parties is completely justified in Texas.

'He was reasonably in fear of serious bodily injury or death.' 

Nathan Beedle with the Harris County District Attorney's Office believes that the shooting was justified, adding: 'I can point you exactly where it is in the law, 9.31 and 9.32 of the penal code.

'Whether someone uses deadly force in the situation, that is presumed to be correct under Texas law.' 

Texas has some of the most permissive gun laws in the US. Residents and non-residents over the age of 21 are allowed to carry a handgun - either openly or concealed - in most places in the state.

This does not include people who have any prior felony convictions. 

Since September 2021, Texans do not need a permit to opening carry a handgun in the state. 







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And a new truck and free voucher for a new gun.

My only answer to any question they asked would be watch video. Then shut up. It's all self EXPLANATORY. Armed bad guy robs people innocent victim shoots armed bad guy. Done

I can't remember exactly where in Texas, I think it was Dallas, a scrap yard owner shot 2 or 3 thieves in the space of a month and the PD kept taking his shotguns.  

A reporter tried to paint him as a vigilante psycho and got fired, and the public bought him a new shotgun.  

I'd pitch in to get the carnal/compinche/guey a new gun.

hey OP

when we find out the hero's name, change the title of this thread and make it the official thread.  this whole event is going to be " Joe Horn Pasadena TX shooting" big.

I sort of want to move to TX unless FL gets it together and allows constitutional carry with open carry.

Smart

agree here but sounds like he's in contact with LEO through a lawyer.

I’m 100% in the “good shoot” camp. But as in any discussion of the legalities of using deadly force, it’s definitely of importance to discuss all of the possible angles that a DA may use if it comes to trying to get a conviction.

Fair or not, all possible eventualities should be discussed and not just be dismissed because we don’t like them. There’s value in discussing/considering them.

In Texas, you don’t have a duty to sit there and take it and all it will take is being able to articulate that you were, in any way, reasonably concerned about the robber still being able to continue with the reasons you are justified in using deadly force in the first place.

If Boss Hogg is trying to convict this man of a crime, the chances she has of getting 12 jurors to agree that, beyond a reasonable doubt, the citizen shooter wasn’t justified in his use of force, she’s going to lose.

Good shoot.

Our resident mod/popo gets it

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That’s the best plan, every single time.

If you are there when they arrive, tell them you need medical and that you were a crime victim and that you want to invoke your 5th amendment rights and won’t say anything else until you have an attorney present.

That’s the way I understand it is to be handled, but if I’m wrong or missing a detail or five, I would definitely like to know.

Most certainly
And also a monetary reward

“Police say the SHOOTER then took the money from the SUSPECT”.

Im sorry, I think you mean “good samaratin” or at worst “alleged shooter” and you mean “perp” or “scumbag”.

What the fuck lol.

Good shoot.

It’s right there under 2a. Deadly force is deadly. The kind of force that causes death. The shooter used deadly for the purpose of stopping the actor from using deadly force on him and the other patrons and staff.

If he can simply articulate why he felt like he and they were still under threat of deadly force, then he easily walks. He had a very reasonable belief that the perp needed deading because the perp showed up and pointed a gun at and threatened every swinging dick in the entire restaurant.

Just because he had to take a slight pause in banging away on the trigger because of the way the perp was facing while on the ground doesn’t mean he executed him unnecessarily.

Ogg couldn’t get a jury of his peers to ignore the danger that the perp put all of the witnesses in and all agree that the shooter committed a crime in defending himself and everyone else against almost every single scenario presented in the law you posted.

About the only law in that statute that the robber didn’t violate was sexual assault and kidnapping.

Texas residents are protected from civil suits in a criminal case where using deadly force is justified.

Which, in this case, it certainly was.

"The identity of the robber has not yet been released"
So they know who it is, but still won't tell us.
Maybe they are still trying to find his baby pictures.

I think y’all just think it makes you sound cool to say aNcHoR sHoT. But all you’re doing is feeding into a narrative for those against us to use, well, against us.

He fired 4 shots, the perp falls down.  Big fucking deal   He then fires 4 more because he is still completely reasonable to believe that he hasn’t stopped the threat. Then he gets in close to pick something up by the criminals head and then shoots again.

You don’t know where that shot went (there were 2 bullet holes in the glass door) and you have no idea what he saw or heard when he was in close.

Either way, he stepped up defend himself and a room full of people from a guy who was in the process of violating just about every law in the Texas statutes of when it’s reasonable to use deadly force.

And half of y’all are looking for a reason to bury him, including making shit up and giving it a stupid “scary name” for our enemies to use against him and us.

Just stop. You sound like a 10yo playing COD and you sound like an enemy of our civil and 2a amendment rights.

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Who is our snake bit Houstonian? This is the kind of shit that happens to him.

Throws the dudes fake gun at the wall.

I haven't seen him for some time, I know he had health issues, hope he's OK.

“his use of excessive, deadly force”

And the quoted Texas statutes were [img]/images/smilies/smiley_freak.gif[/img as well.

What a shitty article written by a halfwit with no attention to detail or facts. Just hyperbole.

Nice reporting, asswipe.

Yeah.