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Posted: 7/3/2020 3:28:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny story there but I've got a place in the country of Georgia these days. I only visit the states when on business these days. She takes care of a gaggle of girls that got dumped in my lap a couple years ago. It's a win win. Dang, can I come visit?! 
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Posted: 7/3/2020 3:29:52 PM EST
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My friend lived over in the former Soviet 'Stans in 1993. In Uzbekistan, the men all wear this boxy fez-like hat.
 The government's really corrupt. The only local tv show was just an old guy talking to the camera while he drank tea. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 3:51:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sure if the 330 day rule still applies or not. If you're out of the US for 330 days your first $90K or so is tax exempt. If you can hit the days there's a huge tax savings. Talk to a tax professional, I'm not up to date on the current rules. I worked abroad before I had a wife/kids. It can be stressful and downright depressing at times. It can be hard to disconnect from work when your whole life revolves around your job. You have to remember to schedule and take downtime or you'll burn out fast. One more question to ask your potential employer is how and where do you report to. If your design team or management is working in from the home office what's the difference in time zone? There's nothing worse than phone calls at all hours of the night. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: exactly. no living expenses but i'm still on the hook for merican taxes (federal, SS/medicare, MT state, etc). I'm not sure if the 330 day rule still applies or not. If you're out of the US for 330 days your first $90K or so is tax exempt. If you can hit the days there's a huge tax savings. Talk to a tax professional, I'm not up to date on the current rules. I worked abroad before I had a wife/kids. It can be stressful and downright depressing at times. It can be hard to disconnect from work when your whole life revolves around your job. You have to remember to schedule and take downtime or you'll burn out fast. One more question to ask your potential employer is how and where do you report to. If your design team or management is working in from the home office what's the difference in time zone? There's nothing worse than phone calls at all hours of the night. 10-4 |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 3:52:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Physical Presence Test (IRS) The other method is the "bona fide residence test", meaning, you have a residence visa. Unless your project is multi-year or goes badly over-schedule, that probably won't apply in your case. FEIE starter details. I think you should go for it. You should take the cautions from others under advisement, but if you stay away from certain stuff, you shouldn't have any trouble. You might be less entertained if you behave yourself, but at least your face won't wind up on a milk carton. You should try to figure out the details about local taxation, housing, and transportation. That might or might not make a big difference on how far that salary level goes. Otherwise, expat or industry-specific forums should have more info on how to avoid local scams, what things should cost, etc. You should also check to see if your flights must go home, or their rules allow you to travel. Maybe you don't want to go all the way back to MT--will they still pay for it? If you do go for it, then just enroll with the local embassy/consulate, and maybe go to their networking or social events. You might network your way into another good gig, or it might just be nice to be on a first name basis with someone in consular affairs. Those folks know exactly what works and doesn't work, and that may help you avoid problems. 10-4 |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 3:53:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend lived over in the former Soviet 'Stans in 1993. In Uzbekistan, the men all wear this boxy fez-like hat. https://c8.alamy.com/comp/B374AX/uzbek-man-wearing-a-traditional-hat-at-the-sunday-market-in-uzbekistan-B374AX.jpg The government's really corrupt. The only local tv show was just an old guy talking to the camera while he drank tea.  |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 3:57:28 PM EST
[#6]
shithole
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:00:57 PM EST
[#7]
Uzbekistanians ... I've been dealing with those sneaky Russian dogs.
Should we call you Boris the Blade or Boris the Bullet-Dodger? |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:04:10 PM EST
[#8]
They've got a sweet air force. Concrete/asphalt runways not required.
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:28:29 PM EST
[#9]
Why does this thread have pics of the men, but none of the women?
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:32:38 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why does this thread have pics of the men, but none of the women? OP asked about working construction over there. Why would we post pictures of women? Since you asked:   Attached File |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 10:25:07 PM EST
[#11]
You should change your home in the states to a state with no state income taxes.
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Posted: 7/4/2020 8:43:28 AM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why does this thread have pics of the men, but none of the women? based on what i'm hearing there is the potential for some shenanigans outside the wire. |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 8:44:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should change your home in the states to a state with no state income taxes. i've considered doing that (SD, TX) but i have too many ties here and it's a lot of hassle to switch everything over. |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 8:48:28 AM EST
[#14]
 R 'N" R Uzbekistan |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 11:02:06 AM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny story there but I've got a place in the country of Georgia these days. I only visit the states when on business these days. She takes care of a gaggle of girls that got dumped in my lap a couple years ago. It's a win win. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Picked up my harem manager there. She was about to be married off to a local official so she was happy to come to work for me instead. Amazingly hot female taught from birth to please a man too. so, uh, what does a harem manger do after you import one to merica? Funny story there but I've got a place in the country of Georgia these days. I only visit the states when on business these days. She takes care of a gaggle of girls that got dumped in my lap a couple years ago. It's a win win. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 5:27:03 AM EST
[#16]
Have you ever heard back about this?
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Posted: 7/10/2020 6:00:07 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 12000 euros/mo. 'bout $13,500/mo merican. Go work in some shithole for $3k a week? No thanks. If you're in construction management, with full long-stay travel, you ought to be pulling that plus per diem. And be able to drink the tap water... |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 6:11:42 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Go work in some shithole for $3k a week? No thanks. If you're in construction management, with full long-stay travel, you ought to be pulling that plus per diem. And be able to drink the tap water... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 12000 euros/mo. 'bout $13,500/mo merican. Go work in some shithole for $3k a week? No thanks. If you're in construction management, with full long-stay travel, you ought to be pulling that plus per diem. And be able to drink the tap water... I know this may be hard for you to grasp. But some people actual spend money for such experiences. Being actually paid to experience other parts of the world is an incredible opportunity. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 6:11:49 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/uz.html Construction Management? How do you feel about child labor and human trafficking? We were contacted about building a factory there financed by some dark money which in turn was going to require us to invest in some things. In our research the workforce there looked somewhat expendable to them. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 6:14:43 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Go work in some shithole for $3k a week? No thanks. If you're in construction management, with full long-stay travel, you ought to be pulling that plus per diem. And be able to drink the tap water... It’s really the tax benefits that make it worth it. You actually get to keep most of it as opposed to kicking back %25+ to the .gov ETA: Full stay travel does pay well stateside but you still face many of the same obstacles as expats. You’re never at home, you’re typically in a place that is foreign to you, living conditions near your site may be less than desirable. There’s plenty of places here where I refuse to drink the tap water as well. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 6:21:27 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. We were contacted about building a factory there financed by some dark money which in turn was going to require us to invest in some things. In our research the workforce there looked somewhat expendable to them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/uz.html Construction Management? How do you feel about child labor and human trafficking? We were contacted about building a factory there financed by some dark money which in turn was going to require us to invest in some things. In our research the workforce there looked somewhat expendable to them. If trafficking and such is a concern, the place to start is the State Departments annual TIP report. https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/2020-TIP-Report-Complete-062420-FINAL.pdf |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 6:23:03 AM EST
[#22]
Met a dude a couple years ago that was from UZ. He was dating a friend of my wife so we hung out a few times. Dude had a huge chip on his shoulder and was completely full of shit, not sure if I ever heard a truthful word from him. “Spoke 87 languages” “intelligence during his time in the Russian army” “had millions in the bank” etc. And he was obsessed with Russian gangsters, he actually respected them.
 Small sample size and all that. Maybe he was just a random asshole, or maybe that country/area is full of assholes. Anyhoo, money sounds good and best of luck! |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 6:27:33 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If trafficking and such is a concern, the place is to start is the State Departments annual TIP report. https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/2020-TIP-Report-Complete-062420-FINAL.pdf Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/uz.html Construction Management? How do you feel about child labor and human trafficking? We were contacted about building a factory there financed by some dark money which in turn was going to require us to invest in some things. In our research the workforce there looked somewhat expendable to them. If trafficking and such is a concern, the place is to start is the State Departments annual TIP report. https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/2020-TIP-Report-Complete-062420-FINAL.pdf Our BD guy went that route. That’s part of the reason we did the Seinfeld that’s enough and walked away. Where were the finished goods going to go? That was an interesting question. Nothing fancy in terms of final product just an interesting question. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 7:16:38 AM EST
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If it works out to be equal to $13,500 per month, with 2 weeks off at home 4x per year...here is what I came up with:
$13,500 X 12=$162,000. Subtract 2 weeks off 4x per year, leaves 84.6% of a year=$137,052 per year salary. If they provide housing, a car with a driver, and a reasonable allowance for food and ancillary living expenses, you could conceivably bank most of that money. I would want to know how many hours per day/week they expect, and would want that in writing so that if I arrive and find that I'm working 65 hours per week rather than 40, I will get compensated at time and a half for the other 25 hours...IN WRITING. It is very conceivable that you arrive expecting 40 hours per week, and rather than getting a reasonable allowance for ancillary items, you get an allowance for food and ancillary things at $10 per week and work 65-70 hours per week, with nothing but crap food available. Then you could learn that they charge you for the car and driver that you thought was a free part of the contract, when all they did was make those things available IF YOU WANTED TO PAY FOR THEM. I would also want the return ticket or money in my hot little hand before I left so if things went bad, I could just hop on the next flight out and go home without having to wait 2-4 weeks for some kind of delay before I could leave. I would very carefully review any contract and make sure everything is written out and is very clear to everyone. I would also want to know what guarantees I would have that things would be honored. If the only people you can deal with are in Uzbeckistan , collecting money could be difficult. If they have a US company with a good reputation that you can deal with that would make things much better. Who is responsible for payments would also be in the contract. If they don't like the idea of a contract, I wouldn't go anywhere further. You could wind up halfway around the world with no money, no ticket home, and some government functionary you can't find holding onto your passport, and everyone passing the buck about who is responsible to help you. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 7:57:04 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it works out to be equal to $13,500 per month, with 2 weeks off at home 4x per year...here is what I came up with: $13,500 X 12=$162,000. Subtract 2 weeks off 4x per year, leaves 84.6% of a year=$137,052 per year salary. If they provide housing, a car with a driver, and a reasonable allowance for food and ancillary living expenses, you could conceivably bank most of that money. I would want to know how many hours per day/week they expect, and would want that in writing so that if I arrive and find that I'm working 65 hours per week rather than 40, I will get compensated at time and a half for the other 25 hours...IN WRITING. It is very conceivable that you arrive expecting 40 hours per week, and rather than getting a reasonable allowance for ancillary items, you get an allowance for food and ancillary things at $10 per week and work 65-70 hours per week, with nothing but crap food available. Then you could learn that they charge you for the car and driver that you thought was a free part of the contract, when all they did was make those things available IF YOU WANTED TO PAY FOR THEM. I would also want the return ticket or money in my hot little hand before I left so if things went bad, I could just hop on the next flight out and go home without having to wait 2-4 weeks for some kind of delay before I could leave. I would very carefully review any contract and make sure everything is written out and is very clear to everyone. I would also want to know what guarantees I would have that things would be honored. If the only people you can deal with are in Uzbeckistan , collecting money could be difficult. If they have a US company with a good reputation that you can deal with that would make things much better. Who is responsible for payments would also be in the contract. If they don't like the idea of a contract, I wouldn't go anywhere further. You could wind up halfway around the world with no money, no ticket home, and some government functionary you can't find holding onto your passport, and everyone passing the buck about who is responsible to help you. I would like to know more about CM's that work 40hrs/week. The last time I was on a site that worked 40 a week was in 2014 
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Posted: 7/10/2020 8:45:12 AM EST
[#26]
I've known Expats (Oil and Gas) that worked there for years at a time (with wife and kid) In a gated community it could be acceptable. It's a bit like camping long term: fun for a while but unless you can get into the swing of things the differences will grate on you. Ask to talk to some others who are currently doing it and get the straight skinny on security, cost of living, and available social activities.
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Posted: 7/10/2020 3:12:03 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've known Expats (Oil and Gas) that worked there for years at a time (with wife and kid) In a gated community it could be acceptable. It's a bit like camping long term: fun for a while but unless you can get into the swing of things the differences will grate on you. Ask to talk to some others who are currently doing it and get the straight skinny on security, cost of living, and available social activities. Not much oil and gas there at all. And I've never seen a gated community. What city were they in? |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 3:35:00 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never been there OP but go to Google and type in Tashkent Uzbekistan "travel" and then "expat". You will find lots of good info and some forums to talk to people. Next do a Google image search for "Tashkent Uzbekistan nightlife" or "women". I hope you are single cause it looks fun  Looks to be a WHOLE lot of prostitutes, call girls and escorts. OP better bring a lot of Trojans to protect from local STD's  Pretty girls but be prepared
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Posted: 7/10/2020 4:12:17 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: recruiter is merican. general contractor is french. Well, there you go. French Benefits.
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Posted: 7/10/2020 7:19:43 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, there you go. French Benefits. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: recruiter is merican. general contractor is french. Well, there you go. French Benefits. what are these french benefits you speak of? |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 7:58:17 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what are these french benefits you speak of?  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 8:52:05 PM EST
[#32]
Sounds like I was in UZ most recently of anyone (all of September 2018). I'm a highly-experienced leisure traveler. Gotta say, I fucking adore Central Asia and can't wait to return.
A key difference between here and there: in America, we don't give a shit about other people (see: everything). In Central Asia, other people are the only thing. Travel basics apply. If you're the type who can say hello and shake hands and pick up a few words, you'll make friends and get access to anything you need quickly. If you're a closed-minded type who thinks everything should be like home or that you deserve extra appreciation for having been born American, you'll struggle. If your company and opportunity pass all the sniff tests you can think of, go. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 8:55:04 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like I was in UZ most recently of anyone (all of September 2018). I'm a highly-experienced leisure traveler. Gotta say, I fucking adore Central Asia and can't wait to return. A key difference between here and there: in America, we don't give a shit about other people (see: everything). In Central Asia, other people are the only thing. Travel basics apply. If you're the type who can say hello and shake hands and pick up a few words, you'll make friends and get access to anything you need quickly. If you're a closed-minded type who thinks everything should be like home or that you deserve extra appreciation for having been born American, you'll struggle. If your company and opportunity pass all the sniff tests you can think of, go. September is one of the best months, were the melons in season yet? |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 8:59:32 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: September is one of the best months, were the melons in season yet? Oh my god, they were. Those will change you. All the fruit there blew me away. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 9:03:07 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh my god, they were. Those will change you. All the fruit there blew me away. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: September is one of the best months, were the melons in season yet? Oh my god, they were. Those will change you. All the fruit there blew me away. There was a Korean company at some big international ag expo in 2017, negotiating an import deal for melons. So, a year later, what does life have in store for me? I actually moved from there to Korea. Every time I hit a grocery store there a little piece of me prayed I might see Uzbek melons. I never did. Year after year. Best tomatoes I've ever had as well. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 9:03:50 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Uzbekistanians ... I've been dealing with those sneaky Russian dogs. Should we call you Boris the Blade or Boris the Bullet-Dodger? You can call him Susan if it makes you happy. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 9:13:39 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: yessir. all living expenses covered plus local taxes. i'm on the hook for merican federal taxes and MT taxes, of course. I contract, and jump through the american tax hoops. If you do it right, you are tax free up to about $100,000. There are two ways to get the exemption; stay out of the country for all but 30 days per year, or, be a 'bona fide tax resident' of some other country. The 'bona fide' method does not have a time limit on US travel. I file as a tax resident of a foreign country. To qualify, you do not have to actually pay foreign taxes, you merely 'must not have been told you do not qualify' to pay foreign taxes. Really. Not making that up. Have a tax guy that knows what he's doing, and you'll be fine. I'm going on about 10 years of contracting overseas, filing as an overseas tax resident for the last two. Having said that, take the job, OP. If it sucks, quit. Whether it sucks, or is great, it will be an adventure. Be open minded, though, it's not Kansas. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 9:28:57 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a Korean company at some big international ag expo in 2017, negotiating an import deal for melons. So, a year later, what does life have in store for me? I actually moved from there to Korea. Every time I hit a grocery store there a little piece of me prayed I might see Uzbek melons. I never did. Year after year. Best tomatoes I've ever had as well. My wife is an ag expert. While she's a middle manager at a huge ag corp here, our fixer in Tashkent got us a same-day meeting with the CEO of Uzbekistan's largest ag company. Dude had a fucking stuffed tiger in his office and little U.S./Uzbek United Nations flags on the boardroom table. Their ag operations are huge (~300,000 seasonal slaves/workers) and quite different from ours. They were interested in brokering U.S. expertise to wean themselves off of cotton-based ag. We hooked up one of the international sales guys at her company and of course he pussed out. Apparently, most of the fruits and pulses we know and love originated in Central Asia. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 9:30:09 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP asked about working construction over there. Why would we post pictures of women? Since you asked: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/uzbek-women-margilan-fergana-valley-uzbekistan-june-portrait-laughing-woman-dressed-scarf-incredible-make-up-150139498.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/311470/FFF6CD6E-FB0F-486D-9809-378EE444CAD5_jpe-1488595.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why does this thread have pics of the men, but none of the women? OP asked about working construction over there. Why would we post pictures of women? Since you asked: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/uzbek-women-margilan-fergana-valley-uzbekistan-june-portrait-laughing-woman-dressed-scarf-incredible-make-up-150139498.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/311470/FFF6CD6E-FB0F-486D-9809-378EE444CAD5_jpe-1488595.JPG Based on this and other information in the thread you are about to become an alcoholic. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 9:30:42 PM EST
[#40]
According to UK ambassador Craig Murray, Uzbekistan was where the CIA renditioned people to be raped by broken bottles.
I'd pass. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 9:33:19 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 12000 euros/mo. 'bout $13,500/mo merican. Alot of money is useless if your dead. Can you buy a gun there? Sounds like a poor country and your about to be a millionaire targeted american. No thanks! |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 9:43:18 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I contract, and jump through the american tax hoops. If you do it right, you are tax free up to about $100,000. There are two ways to get the exemption; stay out of the country for all but 30 days per year, or, be a 'bona fide tax resident' of some other country. The 'bona fide' method does not have a time limit on US travel. I file as a tax resident of a foreign country. To qualify, you do not have to actually pay foreign taxes, you merely 'must not have been told you do not qualify' to pay foreign taxes. Really. Not making that up. Have a tax guy that knows what he's doing, and you'll be fine. I'm going on about 10 years of contracting overseas, filing as an overseas tax resident for the last two. Having said that, take the job, OP. If it sucks, quit. Whether it sucks, or is great, it will be an adventure. Be open minded, though, it's not Kansas. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: yessir. all living expenses covered plus local taxes. i'm on the hook for merican federal taxes and MT taxes, of course. I contract, and jump through the american tax hoops. If you do it right, you are tax free up to about $100,000. There are two ways to get the exemption; stay out of the country for all but 30 days per year, or, be a 'bona fide tax resident' of some other country. The 'bona fide' method does not have a time limit on US travel. I file as a tax resident of a foreign country. To qualify, you do not have to actually pay foreign taxes, you merely 'must not have been told you do not qualify' to pay foreign taxes. Really. Not making that up. Have a tax guy that knows what he's doing, and you'll be fine. I'm going on about 10 years of contracting overseas, filing as an overseas tax resident for the last two. Having said that, take the job, OP. If it sucks, quit. Whether it sucks, or is great, it will be an adventure. Be open minded, though, it's not Kansas. thank you! |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 9:43:50 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Alot of money is useless if your dead. Can you buy a gun there? Sounds like a poor country and your about to be a millionaire targeted american. No thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 12000 euros/mo. 'bout $13,500/mo merican. Alot of money is useless if your dead. Can you buy a gun there? Sounds like a poor country and your about to be a millionaire targeted american. No thanks! i'm old and i'm not afraid to die. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 9:46:50 PM EST
[#44]
Quoted: got contacted about a construction management gig overseas. details on the gig: "Permanent opportunity working directly for client (Lasting several years) Based in Tashkent (Capital of Uzbekistan) Start date ASAP - Will take 1 month for work permit Client will pay for your VISA/ Work permit All-inclusive monthly salary - 12,000 (NET), this includes your salary, accommodation and transport Client will pay your taxes in Uzbekistan 3/4 flights paid back home per year" thoughts? I was in Uzbekistan as recently as a few months ago. Tashkent isn't terrible, and the despotism has lightened up a little in the last few years. I'd not want to be there long term. Depending on how connected your client is, and how important you'd be to him, it can be an OK place. Human trafficking is a big thing there- lots of people get into the country to work and realize it is their new hotel California and they can never leave. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 10:17:54 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: According to UK ambassador Craig Murray, Uzbekistan was where the CIA renditioned people to be raped by broken bottles. I'd pass. Former Ambassador. And, if he said that, he's full of shit. At most, K2 airbase was used as a transit point to some middle eastern country. The CIA only wishes they had that kind of relationship with the Uzbek NSS. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 10:18:48 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i'm old and i'm not afraid to die. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 12000 euros/mo. 'bout $13,500/mo merican. Alot of money is useless if your dead. Can you buy a gun there? Sounds like a poor country and your about to be a millionaire targeted american. No thanks! i'm old and i'm not afraid to die. I think he's afraid of his shadow. Did you ever hear back about your questions? |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 10:21:50 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think he's afraid of his shadow. Did you ever hear back about your questions? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 12000 euros/mo. 'bout $13,500/mo merican. Alot of money is useless if your dead. Can you buy a gun there? Sounds like a poor country and your about to be a millionaire targeted american. No thanks! i'm old and i'm not afraid to die. I think he's afraid of his shadow. Did you ever hear back about your questions? i have not but i've been busy as hell, too. i need to check back with brosef the recruiter. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 10:35:54 PM EST
[#48]
Quoted: got contacted about a construction management gig overseas. details on the gig: "Permanent opportunity working directly for client (Lasting several years) Based in Tashkent (Capital of Uzbekistan) Start date ASAP - Will take 1 month for work permit Client will pay for your VISA/ Work permit All-inclusive monthly salary - 12,000 (NET), this includes your salary, accommodation and transport Client will pay your taxes in Uzbekistan 3/4 flights paid back home per year" thoughts? Ok... So - $12k EUR/ $13.5 USD/ mo = $162k/yr US. Shouldn’t have to pay taxes, so that’s actually a pretty legit living. However, in your OP, you state that is NET, and includes salary, accommodation & transport. Figuring 800/mo for a nice place to live, that takes $9600 out of your total. Not sure how transport figure in, but I’d assume that will take up about 400/mo or $4800/yr You’re now down to 147,600. A PM/CM that is being recruited to work overseas can beat that in the states, very easily (even if TC = sal+bonus). So, is living/working in a 3rd world, former Soviet, predominantly muslim county worth $148k? How does the health insurance/ medical coverage and service availability work? Is there a form of workers comp? What if you get hurt? We all laugh at OSHA here, but you do know that there’s no such thing there, right? Many of the “hey osha” memes come from there. Their safety is... lacking. Not trying to be a downer, just throwing out some 3rd party/ unaffiliated thoughts/ ideas - go for it if you want it, I probably would if I were single... but now, not so much and it makes you look at things a little differently Either way, That’s a pretty awesome opportunity. Congrats man, regardless of which path you choose. |
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Posted: 7/10/2020 10:39:00 PM EST
[#49]
I irregularly have relations with an Uzbek girl, she seems like most slavs, which is to say, scheming
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Posted: 7/10/2020 10:43:43 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok... So - $12k EUR/ $13.5 USD/ mo = $162k/yr US. Shouldn’t have to pay taxes, so that’s actually a pretty legit living. However, in your OP, you state that is NET, and includes salary, accommodation & transport. Figuring 800/mo for a nice place to live, that takes $9600 out of your total. Not sure how transport figure in, but I’d assume that will take up about 400/mo or $4800/yr You’re now down to 147,600. A PM/CM that is being recruited to work overseas can beat that in the states, very easily (even if TC = sal+bonus). So, is living/working in a 3rd world, former Soviet, predominantly muslim county worth $148k? How does the health insurance/ medical coverage and service availability work? Is there a form of workers comp? What if you get hurt? We all laugh at OSHA here, but you do know that there’s no such thing there, right? Many of the “hey osha” memes come from there. Their safety is... lacking. Not trying to be a downer, just throwing out some 3rd party/ unaffiliated thoughts/ ideas - go for it if you want it, I probably would if I were single... but now, not so much and it makes you look at things a little differently Either way, That’s a pretty awesome opportunity. Congrats man, regardless of which path you choose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: got contacted about a construction management gig overseas. details on the gig: "Permanent opportunity working directly for client (Lasting several years) Based in Tashkent (Capital of Uzbekistan) Start date ASAP - Will take 1 month for work permit Client will pay for your VISA/ Work permit All-inclusive monthly salary - 12,000 (NET), this includes your salary, accommodation and transport Client will pay your taxes in Uzbekistan 3/4 flights paid back home per year" thoughts? Ok... So - $12k EUR/ $13.5 USD/ mo = $162k/yr US. Shouldn’t have to pay taxes, so that’s actually a pretty legit living. However, in your OP, you state that is NET, and includes salary, accommodation & transport. Figuring 800/mo for a nice place to live, that takes $9600 out of your total. Not sure how transport figure in, but I’d assume that will take up about 400/mo or $4800/yr You’re now down to 147,600. A PM/CM that is being recruited to work overseas can beat that in the states, very easily (even if TC = sal+bonus). So, is living/working in a 3rd world, former Soviet, predominantly muslim county worth $148k? How does the health insurance/ medical coverage and service availability work? Is there a form of workers comp? What if you get hurt? We all laugh at OSHA here, but you do know that there’s no such thing there, right? Many of the “hey osha” memes come from there. Their safety is... lacking. Not trying to be a downer, just throwing out some 3rd party/ unaffiliated thoughts/ ideas - go for it if you want it, I probably would if I were single... but now, not so much and it makes you look at things a little differently Either way, That’s a pretty awesome opportunity. Congrats man, regardless of which path you choose. 800 a month won't get you any place you'd want to live in. I lived in a passably-maintained old Soviet one bedroom apartment in 2010 and paid several hundred more than that. |
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