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You bastages keep costing me money! Not like I need another HP, but this one is alloy-framed. Screw it: I'm in. AIM had one left in stock earlier.... And now it's mine; as soon as my order was confirmed, it went to "out of stock". |
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I have a FEG. Decent gun. Depending on the style of hammer and the size of your hand you may get bit. Triggers are typically so so with not a lot you can do about it. The linkage is completely different than a 1911. The sights may or may not be usable. The stock, safety is on the small side. The steel in the FN/Brownings tends to be on the soft side. A heavily used HP may be kind of loose. The good thing is most used HP's aren't that heavily used. I've thrown a few parts at mine; C &S safety, Heinie sghts. I like mine but I won't say it's may favorite. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I have a FEG. Decent gun. Depending on the style of hammer and the size of your hand you may get bit. Triggers are typically so so with not a lot you can do about it. The linkage is completely different than a 1911. The sights may or may not be usable. The stock, safety is on the small side. The steel in the FN/Brownings tends to be on the soft side. A heavily used HP may be kind of loose. The good thing is most used HP's aren't that heavily used. I've thrown a few parts at mine; C &S safety, Heinie sghts. I like mine but I won't say it's may favorite. who milled your slide for Heinie sights? What did they charge if you don't mind Quoted:
And now it's mine; as soon as my order was confirmed, it went to "out of stock". |
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VERY good info
Handgunsandammo HP Forum 1911 HP Forum Get one. It will not stay lonely for Long. Avoid internal extractor models except for collecting. Adj sight models, Mark II, Mark III have good sights. C series VERY recommended! Mec Gar mags feed HP´s even in older guns! Get the MecGar 13 and 20 rounders. The 15 are the 13´s, with a flimsier floor plate. Enjoy! Hermann |
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I had a 40 cal Mk III...notice I said had. It was a nice gun, it went bang every time. But mags were expensive and hard to find, and it was not very plesant to shoot. The 9mm is much, much better. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'd love to have the .40 CAL. version. I had a 40 cal Mk III...notice I said had. It was a nice gun, it went bang every time. But mags were expensive and hard to find, and it was not very plesant to shoot. The 9mm is much, much better. I like the .40. The BHP version is rare. I like that, too. Willing to give it a shot someday. Appreciate your input, thank you. When I first got 'into' guns, in 1992, a manager at a restaurant I was having lunch at saw I was reading a 'gun magazine'. He came up and introduced himself, I told him I was a raw-assed rookie to the world of firearms, and he told me, "Get a Browning Hi-Power and don't look back!" I now realize the wisdom of his comment... |
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Was this deal advertised in a email notification? I didn't see it.
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I know this is exceptionally rude to ask, but.... How much did it cost you to take it from the before to after condition, and who did you use to do the work? Your build looks pretty much exactly like what I'd like to do to the one I ordered other than grip color. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The lightweights fully loaded weigh the same as the steel frame guns when empty. http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL615/4020916/23612160/407218523.jpg Here's a LW I got last year. New Heinie night sights, C&S trigger, safety, hammer, sear, fresh cerakote. It's fun to shoot, even more fun to carry. And the before picture: http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL615/4020916/23612160/405800558.jpg I know this is exceptionally rude to ask, but.... How much did it cost you to take it from the before to after condition, and who did you use to do the work? Your build looks pretty much exactly like what I'd like to do to the one I ordered other than grip color. Accurate Armory in Lexington, KY did the sights and cerakote. I fit the C&S ignition parts. Cost? It would be best to contact Keith at Accurate Armory for this info. The Heinie require more machining, but I do not like the sight picture of Novaks, so it was worth it. |
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Google it. I disconnected mine only to hook it back up again, i am a weird bastard.
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I ordered one from AIM and have never shot one, held one, or seen on in person before.... What did I get myself into? You got yourself into one of the finest fighting handguns ever. Congratulations. Remember to disconnect the magazine safety. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/ZekeMenuar1/needpics-1.gif How do you disconnect the mag safety? (Or just hit up Google and start bubba'ing with the first link I find?) |
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I ordered one from AIM and have never shot one, held one, or seen on in person before.... What did I get myself into? You got yourself into one of the finest fighting handguns ever. Congratulations. Remember to disconnect the magazine safety. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/ZekeMenuar1/needpics-1.gif http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=133740 How do you disconnect the mag safety? (Or just hit up Google and start bubba'ing with the first link I find?) Start here: Removing BHP Magazine safety pictoral thread |
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I have a FEG. Decent gun. Depending on the style of hammer and the size of your hand you may get bit. Triggers are typically so so with not a lot you can do about it. The linkage is completely different than a 1911. The sights may or may not be usable. The stock, safety is on the small side. The steel in the FN/Brownings tends to be on the soft side. A heavily used HP may be kind of loose. The good thing is most used HP's aren't that heavily used. I've thrown a few parts at mine; C &S safety, Heinie sghts. I like mine but I won't say it's may favorite. who milled your slide for Heinie sights? What did they charge if you don't mind Quoted:
And now it's mine; as soon as my order was confirmed, it went to "out of stock". Local guy I use for all my work. I want to say the sights were 75 or so and he charged maybe 50 to mill and install. It was a pretty simple job. I know the total bill was under 150 but I can't remember how much. He also install the C&S safety a couple of years ago. I don't think he especially enjoyed that project. |
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Great gun. I shoot a Beretta. But a Hi-Power (and CZs, because of my brother) does interest me.
Good pistols. Accurate. But the barrel life is pretty short. I've heard as low as 10k. Be weary of that, if the gun will be a serious shooter. I've heard that the cast frame Mk. III guns are better about it. But I'm not sure by how much. Even with the best trigger work in the world, the trigger still has a barely tangible reset. |
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AIM has one of the alloy frames still in stock.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=866&name=FN+%28Belgium%29+Hi+Power+9mm+w%2f+RARE+Alloy+Frame |
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Great gun. I shoot a Beretta. But a Hi-Power (and CZs, because of my brother) does interest me. Good pistols. Accurate. But the barrel life is pretty short. I've heard as low as 10k. Be weary of that, if the gun will be a serious shooter. I've heard that the cast frame Mk. III guns are better about it. But I'm not sure by how much. Even with the best trigger work in the world, the trigger still has a barely tangible reset. View Quote Perfect reason to get a KKM or Bar sto |
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Can't just have 1!
And while Aim is good check out Coles: http://www.gunbroker.com/Semi-Auto-Pistols/BI.aspx?Sort=4&IncludeSellers=2621012 Tip, remove the mag safety and replace the trigger spring with a 2 coil wolf spring = a nice trigger pull with a good reset: Stock No. 15071 - Standard Power - 2 coil design http://www.gunsprings.com/Semi-Auto%20Pistols/BROWNING/1935%20%28HI%20POWER%29/cID1/mID3/dID5#52 Note older Hi Powers had 2 coil trigger springs. |
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I carry my T Series regularly, when resting my Wilson 1911. It had an idiot scratch when I bought it and I'm a terrible collector anyway, so it gets plenty of range time and carry time. Great balance and my hands aren't real beefy, so hammer bite has never been an issue for me. For me it's easy to carry concealed and a joy to shoot.
I like Glock 9mms and would have no problem carrying one, but I just can't move away from a Hi Power. |
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Great gun. I shoot a Beretta. But a Hi-Power (and CZs, because of my brother) does interest me. Good pistols. Accurate. But the barrel life is pretty short. I've heard as low as 10k. Be weary of that, if the gun will be a serious shooter. I've heard that the cast frame Mk. III guns are better about it. But I'm not sure by how much. Even with the best trigger work in the world, the trigger still has a barely tangible reset. Perfect reason to get a KKM or Bar sto Neither of which changes the fact that BHPs are hard on the barrel lugs. I've heard of multiple match barrels (Bar-Sto) breaking at 15k or less. |
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British Trooper Prince in Afghanistan. http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/1054424-3x4-700x933.jpg View Quote |
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British Trooper Prince in Afghanistan. http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/1054424-3x4-700x933.jpg We're not good at spotting royals on this side of the pond. lol MOAR pics! |
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Okay- here's the 1961-ish FN marked BHP I just picked up from Cole's. This is a project gun, and after the minor pitting on the right side of the slide is stoned out, will either be professionally hot blued, or Cerakoted in midnight blue. (Have not yet decided which.) There's just something about those internal extractor models that I love... " /> (PS- this thing is definitely the best-shooting Hi-Power I have had yet!) |
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Moar pics? Okay- here's the 1961-ish FN marked BHP I just picked up from Cole's. This is a project gun, and after the minor pitting on the right side of the slide is stoned out, will either be professionally hot blued, or Cerakoted in midnight blue. (Have not yet decided which.) There's just something about those internal extractor models that I love... http://<a href=http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/spot2spot/1962FNBHPaftercleaning_zpse32e5aee.jpg</a>" /> (PS- this thing is definitely the best-shooting Hi-Power I have had yet!) View Quote How long ago did you get that from Cole's? I keep looking at his auctions and thinking about grabbing a second Hi Power.... even though my first one hasn't even arrived at my FFL. |
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How long ago did you get that from Cole's? I keep looking at his auctions and thinking about grabbing a second Hi Power.... even though my first one hasn't even arrived at my FFL. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Moar pics? Okay- here's the 1961-ish FN marked BHP I just picked up from Cole's. This is a project gun, and after the minor pitting on the right side of the slide is stoned out, will either be professionally hot blued, or Cerakoted in midnight blue. (Have not yet decided which.) There's just something about those internal extractor models that I love... http://<a href=http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/spot2spot/1962FNBHPaftercleaning_zpse32e5aee.jpg</a>" /> (PS- this thing is definitely the best-shooting Hi-Power I have had yet!) How long ago did you get that from Cole's? I keep looking at his auctions and thinking about grabbing a second Hi Power.... even though my first one hasn't even arrived at my FFL. It arrived this past Friday (after a slight delay from my FFL dealer.) If you are looking for a affordably-priced Hi-Power, you simply cannot go wrong with Cole's. |
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First Let me tell you where I'm coming from in regard to the Browning Hi-Power. I was a proud owner of a Mark II, the late '80s upgraded model of the original Hi-Power with the ambidextrous thumb safeties, nylon grips, 3-dot sights, and throated barrel. I had the gun 'smithed by none other than the renowned Jim Garthwaite in the mid 90's.
So, while I no longer own that gun, I feel very qualified to comment on the BHP and some of it's severe limitations. ----------- The Pro's The grip feel and pistol profile are excellent. It has a nearly universal gripframe size and shape that can work with many different user hand sizes. The guns are usually highly reliable out of the box. Highly. Good magazine design and newer guns digest most hollowpoints. Easy takedown. Accuracy tends to be good but not great. Cons Weak barrel lug prone to shearing which is why the guns have a 2-piece barrel. It is actually a strengthening measure to use a steel with opposing grain structure from the tube. This is why Bar-Sto aftermarket barrels are also two piece. Lame ass trigger-Perfectly adequate for a combat pistol but hard to refine for precision shooting. The entire trigger linkage on the BHP is an abomination unto the eyes of the Lord. Depending on which book of the Apocrypha you believe, it's either an evil Frog meddling with JMB's design, or a near-death JMB having to design around his own patents. Not even Pedersen ever designed a linkage so Byzantine! Slide and frame tend to loosen quickly and because of the sear linkage system; you will see or feel the slide move when you pull the trigger. Its a fact of the design. A frame rail insert system would benefit the P-35. No steady diet of +P ammo in the BHP. Seriously. ---------- I'm sorry if I hurt some feelings here. I don't mean to denigrate the Hi Power; it is very much a viable defensive pistol, especially by those willing to dedicate sufficient training time on it. At the current Hi Power street price point of the upper $800s to over $1,000, and the virtually mandated immediate action job to get rid of the inordinately heavy, gritty triggerpulls; means the BHP up front cost is more than you initially bargain for. I liked the BHP for many years, but now I moved on. Moved on to what you ask? Something in the tupperware aisle? No! John Moses Browning's other design, the 1911 in 9mm |
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First Let me tell you where I'm coming from in regard to the Browning Hi-Power. I was a proud owner of a Mark II, the late '80s upgraded model of the original Hi-Power with the ambidextrous thumb safeties, nylon grips, 3-dot sights, and throated barrel. I had the gun 'smithed by none other than the renowned Jim Garthwaite in the mid 90's. So, while I no longer own that gun, I feel very qualified to comment on the BHP and some of it's severe limitations. ----------- The Pro's The grip feel and pistol profile are excellent. It has a nearly universal gripframe size and shape that can work with many different user hand sizes. The guns are usually highly reliable out of the box. Highly. Good magazine design and newer guns digest most hollowpoints. Easy takedown. Accuracy tends to be good but not great. Cons Weak barrel lug prone to shearing which is why the guns have a 2-piece barrel. It is actually a strengthening measure to use a steel with opposing grain structure from the tube. This is why Bar-Sto aftermarket barrels are also two piece. Lame ass trigger-Perfectly adequate for a combat pistol but hard to refine for precision shooting. The entire trigger linkage on the BHP is an abomination unto the eyes of the Lord. Depending on which book of the Apocrypha you believe, it's either an evil Frog meddling with JMB's design, or a near-death JMB having to design around his own patents. Not even Pedersen ever designed a linkage so Byzantine! Slide and frame tend to loosen quickly and because of the sear linkage system; you will see or feel the slide move when you pull the trigger. Its a fact of the design. A frame rail insert system would benefit the P-35. No steady diet of +P ammo in the BHP. Seriously. ---------- I'm sorry if I hurt some feelings here. I don't mean to denigrate the Hi Power; it is very much a viable defensive pistol, especially by those willing to dedicate sufficient training time on it. At the current Hi Power street price point of the upper $800s to over $1,000, and the virtually mandated immediate action job to get rid of the inordinately heavy, gritty triggerpulls; means the BHP up front cost is more than you initially bargain for. I liked the BHP for many years, but now I moved on. Moved on to what you ask? Something in the tupperware aisle? No! John Moses Browning's other design, the 1911 in 9mm View Quote Thanks for the info. I'm okay with a $250 hi power, $150 sights, $100 paint, & $150 internals |
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Bump for more pictures while many of us wait for our BHPs to arrive.
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First Let me tell you where I'm coming from in regard to the Browning Hi-Power. I was a proud owner of a Mark II, the late '80s upgraded model of the original Hi-Power with the ambidextrous thumb safeties, nylon grips, 3-dot sights, and throated barrel. I had the gun 'smithed by none other than the renowned Jim Garthwaite in the mid 90's. So, while I no longer own that gun, I feel very qualified to comment on the BHP and some of it's severe limitations. ----------- The Pro's The grip feel and pistol profile are excellent. It has a nearly universal gripframe size and shape that can work with many different user hand sizes. The guns are usually highly reliable out of the box. Highly. Good magazine design and newer guns digest most hollowpoints. Easy takedown. Accuracy tends to be good but not great. Cons Weak barrel lug prone to shearing which is why the guns have a 2-piece barrel. It is actually a strengthening measure to use a steel with opposing grain structure from the tube. This is why Bar-Sto aftermarket barrels are also two piece. Lame ass trigger-Perfectly adequate for a combat pistol but hard to refine for precision shooting. The entire trigger linkage on the BHP is an abomination unto the eyes of the Lord. Depending on which book of the Apocrypha you believe, it's either an evil Frog meddling with JMB's design, or a near-death JMB having to design around his own patents. Not even Pedersen ever designed a linkage so Byzantine! Slide and frame tend to loosen quickly and because of the sear linkage system; you will see or feel the slide move when you pull the trigger. Its a fact of the design. A frame rail insert system would benefit the P-35. No steady diet of +P ammo in the BHP. Seriously. ---------- I'm sorry if I hurt some feelings here. I don't mean to denigrate the Hi Power; it is very much a viable defensive pistol, especially by those willing to dedicate sufficient training time on it. At the current Hi Power street price point of the upper $800s to over $1,000, and the virtually mandated immediate action job to get rid of the inordinately heavy, gritty triggerpulls; means the BHP up front cost is more than you initially bargain for. I liked the BHP for many years, but now I moved on. Moved on to what you ask? Something in the tupperware aisle? No! John Moses Browning's other design, the 1911 in 9mm View Quote I wouldn't fire very much +P in a MK1 / II steel frame or Alloy frame Hi Power. Should have no problems shooting +P in the post 93 cast frame MKIII Hi Powers as FN switched to cast frames specifically to handle 40 SW ammo which is a +P round. Really how much +P ammo does the average non-LEO shooter shoot? A mag of a defensive ammo once a year? The majority of my 9mm shooting is cheap FMJ. |
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I wouldn't fire very much +P in a MK1 / II steel frame or Alloy frame Hi Power. Should have no problems shooting +P in the post 93 cast frame MKIII Hi Powers as FN switched to cast frames specifically to handle 40 SW ammo which is a +P round. Really how much +P ammo does the average non-LEO shooter shoot? A mag of a defensive ammo once a year? The majority of my 9mm shooting is cheap FMJ. View Quote I shoot a mag or two of commercial defensive ammo per handgun/mag/box of ammo combo. Once it has been tested, the rest doesn't get shot until it starts showing its age. Reloaded 9mm 115gr JHP.... thousands and thousands and thousands per year. |
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Duck You Sucker.........wildly underrated and unknown movie. If you have large hands like I do the Hi Power will draw blood with a nasty hammer bite. |
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The Hi Power as we know it was mainly the work of JMB's son Val and Dieudonne Saive. JMB's original Grand Rendement concept was a very different pistol - it was striker-fired.
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My name is BWood I am a Hi Power addict. I currently have three Hi Powers I thought that by coming here...I would be able to face my problem. I was wrong. I need to buy more now.... thanks to the OP for me sliding down this slope |
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My favorite pistol. Mag release safety removed, feed ramp improved, upgraded spring set, and trigger job. It makes one hole. Unbelievably controllable in rapid fire, and I can put about 10 out of 13 on a paper plate at 50 yards in less than 10 seconds. Welcome to the club.
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Other archived threads on my Hi Power:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_39/121480_What_a_difference_new_springs_make_.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_49/363394_BHP_Main_Spring___ETA__I_caved.html |
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You will find out that the magazine safety creates a horrible trigger pull. And if your slide to frame fit is loose, as you pull the trigger the mechanism will raise the slide up as you fire. Mine was accurate, fed reliably and was bought used. Traded it for some furniture, never looked back. ymmv
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The Canadians still use them in AFG. I was pretty happy to see that. Awesome pistol.
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