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Posted: 3/23/2024 9:59:53 PM EDT
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Russia/Ukraine has melted some of your brains.
This is not new. Everything isn't propaganda or a false flag. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:05:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia/Ukraine has melted some of your brains. This is not new. Everything isn't propaganda or a false flag. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks Wait so France was at war with their neighbor when that happened? Context is everything… |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:06:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia/Ukraine has melted some of your brains. This is not new. Everything isn't propaganda or a false flag. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks I reject your reality and substitute my own. Paris was a false flag as well. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:08:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia/Ukraine has melted some of your brains. This is not new. Everything isn't propaganda or a false flag. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks Everything in GD is a false flag. I’d attribute it to GD reading too much Tom Clancy, but that would imply literacy. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:09:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:11:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not saying the Ukes did it, but when I saw that camo AK12 I thought captured equipment out of Ukraine. That would be the closest and easiest source of weapons. Not saying the Russians did it but when I saw that camo AK12 I thought "Russians turned their own equipment over to the terrorists to use" just like they used to do during the Chechen War.  Why am I even prevaricating, it's obviously an FSB false flag op.
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:17:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait so France was at war with their neighbor when that happened? Context is everything Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Russia/Ukraine has melted some of your brains. This is not new. Everything isn't propaganda or a false flag. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks Wait so France was at war with their neighbor when that happened? Context is everything |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:32:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhere are the multiple copies of Sims 3? |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:36:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ISIS is at war with Russia in Syria. And we are in the middle of Ramadan Bombathon Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Could be a Russian false flag, but why get ISIS to claim responsibility? That weakens their claim that Ukraine/NATO are somehow responsible. My guess is this was just IS carrying out a terrorist attack. ISIS is at war with Russia in Syria. And we are in the middle of Ramadan Bombathon Russia also supports the Taliban in Afghanistan and ISIS are not big fans of the Taliban. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:40:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's how we know you are a troll. You don't have to like Ukraine, but nobody can claim Russia are 'good guys' in any way at all. But you seem to have all this evidence it’s a Russian false flag? Like others mentioned, it makes no sense for them to stage it like this. Since McCain went down to meet with Isis, we know who they’re working for. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:48:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No they weren't, and it still happened anyway. That's the point! The Context is that Islamic Terrorist do Islamic Terrorist shit. No, the context is that this wasn’t Islamic terrorism but a false flag. Because why else is Russia already trying to pin this on Ukraine? |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:48:57 PM EDT
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Not a fan of Islamic terrorists. So I hope they get everything coming to them, I'm sure the Russians will make that happen.
As far as Ukraine is concerned, I don't think they had really any part in this. At least the Government in Kiev probably didn't. It's not impossible that some Ukrainian interests offered either monetary or physical assistance, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. It is a bit unusual just how quickly the US came out in front on this. Which would suggest either they saw it coming and nailed it or they are trying to divert attention away from Ukraine. The Russians are understandably suspicious. But either could be true. We really have no idea what happened. But Islamic terrorists doing Islamic terrorists things is nothing new. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:50:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has this been posted? Russian blogger translated & cited by Ukrainian:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJY5pIhXEAAWkHp?format=jpg&name=900x900 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJY5pIhXUAABHD3?format=jpg&name=medium originally posted by @almightytallest Oh ffs they finally get something right and it’s this 
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:51:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:52:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, the context is that this wasn’t Islamic terrorism but a false flag. Because why else is Russia already trying to pin this on Ukraine? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No they weren't, and it still happened anyway. That's the point! The Context is that Islamic Terrorist do Islamic Terrorist shit. No, the context is that this wasn’t Islamic terrorism but a false flag. Because why else is Russia already trying to pin this on Ukraine? Doesn't have to be an actual false flag. It can simply be they didn't heed foreign warnings or their own intel with the goal of exploiting the situation once it happened. Or, maybe they didn't do any of that. But, they're definitely exploiting the situation NOW to escalate with Ukraine. Not going to let a good crisis go to waste. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:52:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, the context is that this wasn’t Islamic terrorism but a false flag. Because why else is Russia already trying to pin this on Ukraine? It can be Islamic terrorism and Russia still pins it on Ukraine. Remember the Maine! |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:56:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a fan of Islamic terrorists. So I hope they get everything coming to them, I'm sure the Russians will make that happen. As far as Ukraine is concerned, I don't think they had really any part in this. At least the Government in Kiev probably didn't. It's not impossible that some Ukrainian interests offered either monetary or physical assistance, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. It is a bit unusual just how quickly the US came out in front on this. Which would suggest either they saw it coming and nailed it or they are trying to divert attention away from Ukraine. The Russians are understandably suspicious. But either could be true. We really have no idea what happened. But Islamic terrorists doing Islamic terrorists things is nothing new. I just don't see why we'd issue such specific warnings in early March if we wanted to divert attention. We'd have simply not said anything. There was obviously Intel from out side that was very very specific. Perhaps the Russians chose not to believe it or they chose to look the other way and let it happened. Either way, they can't say they weren't warned. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:59:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It can be Islamic terrorism and Russia still pins it on Ukraine. Remember the Maine! Quote HistoryQuoted: It can be Islamic terrorism and Russia still pins it on Ukraine. Remember the Maine! Quoted: Doesn't have to be an actual false flag. It can simply be they didn't heed foreign warnings or their own intel with the goal of exploiting the situation once it happened. Or, maybe they didn't do any of that. But, they're definitely exploiting the situation NOW to escalate with Ukraine. Not going to let a good crisis go to waste. That last sentence. That we can both agree on. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 11:00:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No they weren't, and it still happened anyway. That's the point! The Context is that Islamic Terrorist do Islamic Terrorist shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russia/Ukraine has melted some of your brains. This is not new. Everything isn't propaganda or a false flag. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks Wait so France was at war with their neighbor when that happened? Context is everything Yes but at the same there is a lot of strange aspects of this and it's very convenient for Russia. Should make you wonder at least. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 11:01:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just don't see why we'd issue such specific warnings in early March if we wanted to divert attention. We'd have simply not said anything. There was obviously Intel from out side that was very very specific. Perhaps the Russians chose not to believe it or they chose to look the other way and let it happened. Either way, they can't say they weren't warned. Yeah I agree, that is the most likely scenario. As I said, I don't really believe the Ukrainians are directly involved. But I don't believe this is a false flag either. The truth is often gray. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 11:12:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just don't see why we'd issue such specific warnings in early March if we wanted to divert attention. We'd have simply not said anything. There was obviously Intel from out side that was very very specific. Perhaps the Russians chose not to believe it or they chose to look the other way and let it happened. Either way, they can't say they weren't warned. /thread Amid the blisters of the pro Russian crowd about how Ukraine, the west, and MI6 did it this is the most likely answer |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 12:10:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/24/2024 12:13:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /thread Amid the blisters of the pro Russian crowd about how Ukraine, the west, and MI6 did it this is the most likely answer Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just don't see why we'd issue such specific warnings in early March if we wanted to divert attention. We'd have simply not said anything. There was obviously Intel from out side that was very very specific. Perhaps the Russians chose not to believe it or they chose to look the other way and let it happened. Either way, they can't say they weren't warned. /thread Amid the blisters of the pro Russian crowd about how Ukraine, the west, and MI6 did it this is the most likely answer You guys are so gullible. Didn’t Russia supposedly warn us about the Tsarnaev brothers? This is a game they play. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 12:33:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia/Ukraine has melted some of your brains. This is not new. Everything isn't propaganda or a false flag. Consider the psychological theory of projection. People assume of others what they are themselves. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 12:40:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You guys are so gullible. Didn’t Russia supposedly warn us about the Tsarnaev brothers? This is a game they play. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just don't see why we'd issue such specific warnings in early March if we wanted to divert attention. We'd have simply not said anything. There was obviously Intel from out side that was very very specific. Perhaps the Russians chose not to believe it or they chose to look the other way and let it happened. Either way, they can't say they weren't warned. /thread Amid the blisters of the pro Russian crowd about how Ukraine, the west, and MI6 did it this is the most likely answer You guys are so gullible. Didn’t Russia supposedly warn us about the Tsarnaev brothers? This is a game they play. Yes, but the Ukraine crowd don't want to admit it. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 12:41:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, but the Ukraine crowd don't want to admit it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, but the Ukraine crowd don't want to admit it. Admit what? Quoted: You guys are so gullible. Didn’t Russia supposedly warn us about the Tsarnaev brothers? This is a game they play. And? |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 12:41:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You guys are so gullible. Didn’t Russia supposedly warn us about the Tsarnaev brothers? This is a game they play. yep |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 1:14:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, the context is that this wasn't Islamic terrorism but a false flag. Because why else is Russia already trying to pin this on Ukraine? |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 1:24:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Feeding terror suspects their own ear is a better plan if you can be 100% certain you have the right guy. The Russians are 100% certain. I'm positive that the guy they caught confessed to at least something. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 9:47:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't have to like Ukraine, but nobody can claim Russia are 'good guys' in any way at all. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don’t know why my posts are deleted when responding to someone calling me a troll. Anyways, if Isis doesn’t like Russia and they were heading to Ukraine, we know Russia must be the good guys here. You don't have to like Ukraine, but nobody can claim Russia are 'good guys' in any way at all. Russia is as much a terrorist state as ISIS is. They just have more media spin and resources. It's one thing to be ambivalent about their invasion of Ukraine, it's another to be blind to their aggression. One is lazy, the other is stupid. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 9:49:53 AM EDT
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ISIS released bodycam footage from the attack through Amaq. They also released pictures of the attackers with blurred faces.
Someone will have to link to the Telegram version. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:00:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia/Ukraine has melted some of your brains. This is not new. Everything isn't propaganda or a false flag. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks Yup, this is crazy seeing people cry “false flag” or “Ukraine”. Islam had been at war with the world for more than 14 centuries. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:04:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Russians are 100% certain. I'm positive that the guy they caught confessed to at least something. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Feeding terror suspects their own ear is a better plan if you can be 100% certain you have the right guy. The Russians are 100% certain. I'm positive that the guy they caught confessed to at least something. I don't doubt he has. Perhaps we can close the Lindbergh baby case after all these years. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:09:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:13:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup, this is crazy seeing people cry “false flag” or “Ukraine”. Islam had been at war with the world for more than 14 centuries. If I started a thread in 1999 and said "hey guys, Russian intelligence just blew up 4 blocks worth of apartment buildings in Moscow, killing 100's, wounding thousands, and is now using Islamic terrorism as an excuse to invade Checnya" I'm sure you'd be laughing at everyone with their "false flag" conspiracies telling us Islamic terrorism has been doing it for centuries No offense but I look at you guys in the same light you're judging others in this thread. It could absolutely be Occam's Razor here and ISIS is doing ISIS shit but the timing and circumstances seem pretty fucky https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:15:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, this place costing me money. Lol.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f166/1240543d1711236342-least-133-killed-140-wounded-terrorist-attack-russian-concert-hall-img_20240323_182500_739.jpg from another forum https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2024-03-23_at_16-44-10_At_Lea-3167418.JPG https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f166/1240545d1711236587-least-133-killed-140-wounded-terrorist-attack-russian-concert-hall-img_20240323_122508_363.jpg https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f166/1240546d1711236594-least-133-killed-140-wounded-terrorist-attack-russian-concert-hall-img_20240323_182830_379.jpg Again, this place costing me money. Lol. Sold out.  Kizlyar "Spire" |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:18:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Moscow attack benefit's isis and advances their cause. By waging jihad. Death of non believers is their cause. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:18:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I started a thread in 1999 and said "hey guys, Russian intelligence just blew up 4 blocks worth of apartment buildings in Moscow, killing 100's, wounding thousands, and is now using Islamic terrorism as an excuse to invade Checnya" I'm sure you'd be laughing at everyone with their "false flag" conspiracies telling us Islamic terrorism has been doing it for centuries No offense but I look at you guys in the same light you're judging others in this thread. It could absolutely be Occam's Razor here and ISIS is doing ISIS shit but the timing and circumstances seem pretty fucky https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yup, this is crazy seeing people cry “false flag” or “Ukraine”. Islam had been at war with the world for more than 14 centuries. If I started a thread in 1999 and said "hey guys, Russian intelligence just blew up 4 blocks worth of apartment buildings in Moscow, killing 100's, wounding thousands, and is now using Islamic terrorism as an excuse to invade Checnya" I'm sure you'd be laughing at everyone with their "false flag" conspiracies telling us Islamic terrorism has been doing it for centuries No offense but I look at you guys in the same light you're judging others in this thread. It could absolutely be Occam's Razor here and ISIS is doing ISIS shit but the timing and circumstances seem pretty fucky https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings Russian already has their hands full with Ukraine and is active in Syria, I understand why Putin wants to keep the focus on Ukraine but ISIS killing 150 people in Moscow doesn’t help him with his goals. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:22:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russian already has their hands full with Ukraine and is active in Syria, I understand why Putin wants to keep the focus on Ukraine but ISIS killing 150 people in Moscow doesn’t help him with his goals. I'm with ya, I don't know how that furthers his goals but that's not what I'm saying here. We have a recent precedent, in our lifetime, of the Russians committing a giant false flag, killing 100's of Russian citizens in the capital city, and then blaming it on radical Islamic terrorists. . . . I mean if it was them it's almost boiler plate. And you guys are acting like anyone who doesnt immediately believe the official narrative is off their rocker I'll edit my post here and tell you I don't think it was Russia fwiw, but I'm not convinced it was ISIS acting autonomously |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:23:29 AM EDT
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So, let me get this straight...
A covert Ukrainian team has some anonymous dude recruit these Tajiks. Just fill them up with Glory for Allah, give them/their families payment for a terror attack. No need to tell them anything about Ukraine, because they are doing this for Allah, which has simply been sufficient motivation in the past. But, then, somehow, these mystery Ukrainian operatives, who have no reason to tell these guys that they are Ukrainian, tell these Tajiks ... "hey don't do the usual attack and stick around for the suicidal shootout thing, or take the shootout on the road to maximize chaos and carnage, like ISIS usually does, no man, don't do that ... just hop on the 101 and after a simple 8 hours drive, you can join us in glorious Ukraine, where we'll keep you safe." And the federalize Russian police ... are notably absent during the entirety of the attack? And the 8 hour drive down the 101? Uh huh. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:26:36 AM EDT
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The patches on those
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:27:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The patches on those Russian federal policeLol you caught that huh? Nazis fighting nazis to denazify Ukraine
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:28:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:33:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol you caught that huh? Nazis fighting nazis to denazify Ukraine “Nazis” were one of the largest groups fighting for Russia in Ukraine, somewhere around 80k strong across a dozen or so extremist groups from Wagner, Rusich, LPR, and Others. I wrote 6 papers on extremist groups in college. I’m fairly well versed on them.  |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:35:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It can be Islamic terrorism and Russia still pins it on Ukraine. Remember the Maine! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, the context is that this wasn't Islamic terrorism but a false flag. Because why else is Russia already trying to pin this on Ukraine? It can be Islamic terrorism and Russia still pins it on Ukraine. Remember the Maine! Exactly. I'm now pretty sure it wasn't a false flag. But that won't stop Putin from "not letting a good crisis go to waste" to push on stricter measures against anti-war people or go full-on mobilization. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:36:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “Nazis” were one of the largest groups fighting for Russia in Ukraine, somewhere around 80k strong across a dozen or so extremist groups from Wagner, Rusich, LPR, and Others. I wrote 6 papers on extremist groups in college. I’m fairly well versed on them. Yea. . . well I've been browsing 4chan since before /pol existed.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:38:36 AM EDT
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I'm sure this has been addressed, but what's the deal with the sparks flying out of the barrels? Shitty russian ammo?
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:39:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure this has been addressed, but what's the deal with the sparks flying out of the barrels? Shitty russian ammo? I think firing indoors and shitty steel cased ammo |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:43:33 AM EDT
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Ukraine did it, and only reason they are pinning it on ISIS is because Ukraine is grubby and wants more of our money, nobody is going to support them no more if they committed acts of terrorism on civilians. ISIS takes orders from Obama, who ordered them to falsely take credit for the attack to stir confusion and draw suspicion away from the Ukraine.
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Posted: 3/24/2024 10:48:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think firing indoors and shitty steel cased ammo Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm sure this has been addressed, but what's the deal with the sparks flying out of the barrels? Shitty russian ammo? I think firing indoors and shitty steel cased ammo |
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