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Link Posted: 7/26/2023 6:57:29 PM EDT
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Welcome to Texas By Brian Burns LYRICS
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 6:59:57 PM EDT
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OP is right about the weather and lack of public land being a major drawback.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:02:42 PM EDT
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Texas raises some of the most humble and insight people that I've know.

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Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:04:21 PM EDT
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?
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The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.

Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:05:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:05:35 PM EDT
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:08:14 PM EDT
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.



NY does a lot of things wrong, but thankfully they didn't fuck up public land and hunting (yet). It has a long history here, and they do the best they can managing it all.

By proportion we have the most public land this side of the Mississippi River, and way more than TX, and I'm thankful that it persists.

The history in the Adirondacks is an interesting one, and most of the stories are from when it was pure unclaimed wilderness.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:08:42 PM EDT
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


I think we paid a shit load of beads for it or something.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:11:52 PM EDT
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:17:26 PM EDT
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That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:24:29 PM EDT
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So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Where did your land originate? Was it also wrongfully obtained at some point?

We can take that argument all the way back to Africa when humans first left.

The point is, that the state is steward of public land....land that is for everyone to use. It's just another public service, like road.

It's a good thing, because otherwise any type of outdoor recreation becomes a pay to play game. If you can't see why that's a bad thing, then you're better off in a state like that.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:27:32 PM EDT
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Lol you may as well live in Mexico about  the same thing
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:28:22 PM EDT
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Where did your land originate? Was it also wrongfully obtained at some point?

We can take that argument all the way back to Africa when humans first left.

The point is, that the state is steward of public land....land that is for everyone to use. It's just another public service, like road.

It's a good thing, because otherwise any type of outdoor recreation becomes a pay to play game. If you can't see why that's a bad thing, then you're better off in a state like that.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Where did your land originate? Was it also wrongfully obtained at some point?

We can take that argument all the way back to Africa when humans first left.

The point is, that the state is steward of public land....land that is for everyone to use. It's just another public service, like road.

It's a good thing, because otherwise any type of outdoor recreation becomes a pay to play game. If you can't see why that's a bad thing, then you're better off in a state like that.

That was my point, the other poster was the one who posited the logic in the first place. I was pointing out its contradiction.

That argument chain that you’re using is the exact same one that the argument of why everything should be socialized stems from. Their critique of capitalism is that it is pay to play, that resources are accumulating in an unfair way that allows those individuals to exert undue force to control markets and resources.

So congrats, you are an actual Socialist (not one that uniformed and room temp IQ conservatives think is socialism).
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:29:41 PM EDT
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That was my point, the other poster was the one who posited the logic in the first place. I was pointing out its contradiction.

That argument chain that you’re using is the exact same one that the argument of why everything should be socialized stems from. Their critique of capitalism is that it is pay to play, that resources are accumulating in an unfair way that allows those individuals to exert undue force to control markets and resources.

So congrats, you are an actual Socialist (not one that uniformed and room temp IQ conservatives think is socialism).
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Where did your land originate? Was it also wrongfully obtained at some point?

We can take that argument all the way back to Africa when humans first left.

The point is, that the state is steward of public land....land that is for everyone to use. It's just another public service, like road.

It's a good thing, because otherwise any type of outdoor recreation becomes a pay to play game. If you can't see why that's a bad thing, then you're better off in a state like that.

That was my point, the other poster was the one who posited the logic in the first place. I was pointing out its contradiction.

That argument chain that you’re using is the exact same one that the argument of why everything should be socialized stems from. Their critique of capitalism is that it is pay to play, that resources are accumulating in an unfair way that allows those individuals to exert undue force to control markets and resources.

So congrats, you are an actual Socialist (not one that uniformed and room temp IQ conservatives think is socialism).


If you use roads and fire service, you're a socialist too.....congratulations.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:30:03 PM EDT
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I don’t mind TX, but your gun laws suck.

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What sucks about our gun laws, besides all gun laws sucking?
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:30:47 PM EDT
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Texas being great is going to be location-dependent.  I've been in the DFW area all my life, so...


Too many people

Turning blue regardless of what anyone says

Too hot

Whataburger's overrated

Too many people

Not enough seasons

Too many people

Gun ranges either suck or are 870 miles away

Very little public land for recreation

Whataburger sucks

Too many people


Went to NoDak a couple weeks ago driving through OK, KS, NE, SD, ND, and MT.  Crossed the Red River coming home and felt the life getting sucked out of me negotiating traffic.  Like a fucking switch was flipped.


That being said, the 12 Californians who moved somewhere other than Texas criticizing Texas and Texans amuse me.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:31:23 PM EDT
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It does have decent gun laws but it really isn't that unique compared to the other half of the country that has constitutional carry and decent gun laws as well.

I guess some of it comes down to personal preference personally I would find Texas one of the absolute worst states. I like mountains not flatland and there's almost no public land. Huge drawback if you like the outdoors. I know there is a few small mountains in west Texas but not much.

Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:31:59 PM EDT
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We have the first UT.

We also helped a brother out.

We have no income tax.



Seriously y’all would hate hunting here. Illegal to hunt over bait.

Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:32:16 PM EDT
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If you use roads and fire service, you're a socialist too.....congratulations.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Where did your land originate? Was it also wrongfully obtained at some point?

We can take that argument all the way back to Africa when humans first left.

The point is, that the state is steward of public land....land that is for everyone to use. It's just another public service, like road.

It's a good thing, because otherwise any type of outdoor recreation becomes a pay to play game. If you can't see why that's a bad thing, then you're better off in a state like that.

That was my point, the other poster was the one who posited the logic in the first place. I was pointing out its contradiction.

That argument chain that you’re using is the exact same one that the argument of why everything should be socialized stems from. Their critique of capitalism is that it is pay to play, that resources are accumulating in an unfair way that allows those individuals to exert undue force to control markets and resources.

So congrats, you are an actual Socialist (not one that uniformed and room temp IQ conservatives think is socialism).


If you use roads and fire service, you're a socialist too.....congratulations.

Using and supporting are two very different things.

>hurrr if you pay taxes you’re a hypocrite

Smooth brain logic. You’re here openly advocating for socialism.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:36:41 PM EDT
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The weather makes it not worth it. I'll stay in pa
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Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:38:35 PM EDT
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Meh, better there than the People's Revolutionary Marxist Proletariat Republic of Connecticut.
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Using and supporting are two very different things.

>hurrr if you pay taxes you’re a hypocrite

Smooth brain logic. You’re here openly advocating for socialism.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Where did your land originate? Was it also wrongfully obtained at some point?

We can take that argument all the way back to Africa when humans first left.

The point is, that the state is steward of public land....land that is for everyone to use. It's just another public service, like road.

It's a good thing, because otherwise any type of outdoor recreation becomes a pay to play game. If you can't see why that's a bad thing, then you're better off in a state like that.

That was my point, the other poster was the one who posited the logic in the first place. I was pointing out its contradiction.

That argument chain that you’re using is the exact same one that the argument of why everything should be socialized stems from. Their critique of capitalism is that it is pay to play, that resources are accumulating in an unfair way that allows those individuals to exert undue force to control markets and resources.

So congrats, you are an actual Socialist (not one that uniformed and room temp IQ conservatives think is socialism).


If you use roads and fire service, you're a socialist too.....congratulations.

Using and supporting are two very different things.

>hurrr if you pay taxes you’re a hypocrite

Smooth brain logic. You’re here openly advocating for socialism.


I agree, you're being rather smooth brained about it.

The other thread should be fun.

At least you're from TX, so no matter how much they pick on you, your ego won't take a hit.
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So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Since it is mostly all wrongfully gained it is far better that it is public than locked away.

It has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism is an economic model where the public owns the means of production, such as factories and oil refineries. Empty land in a state of nature is not a means of production.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:43:11 PM EDT
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I agree.
Do not move to North Dakota.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:43:32 PM EDT
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You forgot to mention your robust and agile power grid

Also Carolina BBQ is 100000000000 times better than the shit that is melded together in Texass
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Lets do this again and go over some of the most important talking points. I will concede and add the negatives.

Relatively Safe
Decent Gun Laws
Can Hunt with Suppressors
No State Income Tax (Great for Businesses)
Superior Barbeque
Whataburger (We also have In N Out too just because)
Sweet Tea
Diversity (Which makes us more cultured)
Large Oil and Gas Industry
Military Bases with decent Armories
NASA
Astros
Tech Boom

Drawbacks:

Bad weather
Crime in big cities
Not enough public hunting land

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/texas-flag-blowing-wind-blue-sky-background-98833622.jpg


You forgot to mention your robust and agile power grid

Also Carolina BBQ is 100000000000 times better than the shit that is melded together in Texass


The power grid is actually great.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:43:33 PM EDT
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Bless your heart.
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Since it is mostly all wrongfully gained it is far better that it is public than locked away.

It has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism is an economic model where the public owns the means of production, such as factories and oil refineries. Empty land in a state of nature is not a means of production.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone's. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it's okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It's funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn't, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Since it is mostly all wrongfully gained it is far better that it is public than locked away.

It has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism is an economic model where the public owns the means of production, such as factories and oil refineries. Empty land in a state of nature is not a means of production.
Public land sucks too since it too locks it away. In FL, there is a state program where the state and municipalities purchase private land for conservation. The thing is that land is never opened to hunting, shooting, fishing, etc... it is simply purchased by the government and a pretty sign saying "Forever Florida" is placed on it. The people don't get to do much except maybe walk their dog on a leash.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:43:44 PM EDT
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Hate to break it to you mate but it’s not even in the top 3. Possibly 5.
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Since it is mostly all wrongfully gained it is far better that it is public than locked away.

It has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism is an economic model where the public owns the means of production, such as factories and oil refineries. Empty land in a state of nature is not a means of production.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Since it is mostly all wrongfully gained it is far better that it is public than locked away.

It has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism is an economic model where the public owns the means of production, such as factories and oil refineries. Empty land in a state of nature is not a means of production.

You obviously are completely clueless about what Socialism is.

What about farms? Who owns the land? What about the land on which the factories and oil refineries lay? What about the oil itself?

Every argument you’re making could be applied to capitalism.
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>hurrr if you pay taxes you’re a hypocrite

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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Where did your land originate? Was it also wrongfully obtained at some point?

We can take that argument all the way back to Africa when humans first left.

The point is, that the state is steward of public land....land that is for everyone to use. It's just another public service, like road.

It's a good thing, because otherwise any type of outdoor recreation becomes a pay to play game. If you can't see why that's a bad thing, then you're better off in a state like that.

That was my point, the other poster was the one who posited the logic in the first place. I was pointing out its contradiction.

That argument chain that you’re using is the exact same one that the argument of why everything should be socialized stems from. Their critique of capitalism is that it is pay to play, that resources are accumulating in an unfair way that allows those individuals to exert undue force to control markets and resources.

So congrats, you are an actual Socialist (not one that uniformed and room temp IQ conservatives think is socialism).


If you use roads and fire service, you're a socialist too.....congratulations.

Using and supporting are two very different things.

>hurrr if you pay taxes you’re a hypocrite

Smooth brain logic. You’re here openly advocating for socialism.




Learn what socialism does s before accusing others.
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He's just jelly....might have to go stump shooting in about 20k acres some time this week and realize how bad I have it with all this socialist forest land.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:46:51 PM EDT
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Texas is like an old woman's pussy.  Everyone knows it's down there but nobody cares.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Where did your land originate? Was it also wrongfully obtained at some point?

We can take that argument all the way back to Africa when humans first left.

The point is, that the state is steward of public land....land that is for everyone to use. It's just another public service, like road.

It's a good thing, because otherwise any type of outdoor recreation becomes a pay to play game. If you can't see why that's a bad thing, then you're better off in a state like that.

That was my point, the other poster was the one who posited the logic in the first place. I was pointing out its contradiction.

That argument chain that you’re using is the exact same one that the argument of why everything should be socialized stems from. Their critique of capitalism is that it is pay to play, that resources are accumulating in an unfair way that allows those individuals to exert undue force to control markets and resources.

So congrats, you are an actual Socialist (not one that uniformed and room temp IQ conservatives think is socialism).


If you use roads and fire service, you're a socialist too.....congratulations.

Using and supporting are two very different things.

>hurrr if you pay taxes you’re a hypocrite

Smooth brain logic. You’re here openly advocating for socialism.




Learn what socialism does s before accusing others.

Tell me in your own words what it is.
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Like this?  Or is this totally different?

https://www.nps.gov/shen/learn/historyculture/displaced.htm
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At least my state speaks English

Almost 40% of Texas  speaks a foreign language




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At least my state speaks English

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At least my state speaks English

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Sure, 40% of Texas might speak a language other than English. You know what it is? Freedom. Because the Spanish and English speakers in Texas (same in Florida) understand the Second Amendment better than all you English-only speakers in Connecticut.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 8:03:27 PM EDT
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Bad weather

Bullshit we have all kinds of weather

I like it. Millions of Yankees like it too until summer
Trouble is summer last from March to mid November
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What sucks about our gun laws, besides all gun laws sucking?
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I don’t mind TX, but your gun laws suck.

Sorry, it’s the truth.


What sucks about our gun laws, besides all gun laws sucking?


I've been trying to figure that out to since he's not the first that's claimed that in this thread. The only two things I can the of is they think property owners shouldn't be able to decide if someone can carry on thier property and/or drunks should be able to carry in bars.
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The second highest taxed commie state in the union.
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Sure, 40% of Texas might speak a language other than English. You know what it is? Freedom. Because the Spanish and English speakers in Texas (same in Florida) understand the Second Amendment better than all you English-only speakers in Connecticut.
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lol

keep telling yourself that while this country continues to lose it's heritage

wow


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Lol haven't been to Mexico have you?
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lol

keep telling yourself that while this country continues to lose it's heritage

wow


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lol

keep telling yourself that while this country continues to lose it's heritage

wow


Texas and Florida are more pro-freedom than Connecticut. I think we got the heritage thing figured out.
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Public land sucks too since it too locks it away. In FL, there is a state program where the state and municipalities purchase private land for conservation. The thing is that land is never opened to hunting, shooting, fishing, etc... it is simply purchased by the government and a pretty sign saying "Forever Florida" is placed on it. The people don't get to do much except maybe walk their dog on a leash.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone's. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it's okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It's funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn't, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Since it is mostly all wrongfully gained it is far better that it is public than locked away.

It has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism is an economic model where the public owns the means of production, such as factories and oil refineries. Empty land in a state of nature is not a means of production.
Public land sucks too since it too locks it away. In FL, there is a state program where the state and municipalities purchase private land for conservation. The thing is that land is never opened to hunting, shooting, fishing, etc... it is simply purchased by the government and a pretty sign saying "Forever Florida" is placed on it. The people don't get to do much except maybe walk their dog on a leash.


Yeah, that’s a problem too. There should be minimal restrictions on public land.
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You obviously are completely clueless about what Socialism is.

What about farms? Who owns the land? What about the land on which the factories and oil refineries lay? What about the oil itself?

Every argument you’re making could be applied to capitalism.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Since it is mostly all wrongfully gained it is far better that it is public than locked away.

It has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism is an economic model where the public owns the means of production, such as factories and oil refineries. Empty land in a state of nature is not a means of production.

You obviously are completely clueless about what Socialism is.

What about farms? Who owns the land? What about the land on which the factories and oil refineries lay? What about the oil itself?

Every argument you’re making could be applied to capitalism.


You have no idea what you are talking about. You are misapplying terms.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Where did your land originate? Was it also wrongfully obtained at some point?

We can take that argument all the way back to Africa when humans first left.

The point is, that the state is steward of public land....land that is for everyone to use. It's just another public service, like road.

It's a good thing, because otherwise any type of outdoor recreation becomes a pay to play game. If you can't see why that's a bad thing, then you're better off in a state like that.

That was my point, the other poster was the one who posited the logic in the first place. I was pointing out its contradiction.

That argument chain that you’re using is the exact same one that the argument of why everything should be socialized stems from. Their critique of capitalism is that it is pay to play, that resources are accumulating in an unfair way that allows those individuals to exert undue force to control markets and resources.

So congrats, you are an actual Socialist (not one that uniformed and room temp IQ conservatives think is socialism).


If you use roads and fire service, you're a socialist too.....congratulations.

Using and supporting are two very different things.

>hurrr if you pay taxes you’re a hypocrite

Smooth brain logic. You’re here openly advocating for socialism.




Learn what socialism does s before accusing others.

Tell me in your own words what it is.


I already gave you the 5 cent description and you don’t seem to understand the difference between a factory and a forest.
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That is the point, it is public, it is everyone's. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.
Like this?  Or is this totally different?

https://www.nps.gov/shen/learn/historyculture/displaced.htm


Not sure what your point is.
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And the public land was rightfully gained?
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


Many not. Maybe so. Either way, we all can enjoy the public lands for dammed near anything we want to do.

Where do you go shooting and wheeling and camping and hunting? I go about 20 miles from my house to the mountains where I have thousands of acres where I can do all of those things and more without asking permission or spending money on anything more that what I need to get out there and survive.

Illegal to spotlight and bait here. We call it hunting, not sitting in a box over a feeder waiting for something to wander by.
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I've been trying to figure that out to since he's not the first that's claimed that in this thread. The only two things I can the of is they think property owners shouldn't be able to decide if someone can carry on thier property and/or drunks should be able to carry in bars.
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I don’t mind TX, but your gun laws suck.

Sorry, it’s the truth.


What sucks about our gun laws, besides all gun laws sucking?


I've been trying to figure that out to since he's not the first that's claimed that in this thread. The only two things I can the of is they think property owners shouldn't be able to decide if someone can carry on thier property and/or drunks should be able to carry in bars.


Texas gun laws have greatly improved in my lifetime.  Bush signed concealed carry for Texas in the mid 90’s but I had already been carrying in PA for a few years. I never carried in NY because it is such a pain.
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I didn't realize Texans were so touchy about something as simple as public land.

I'm going out to hunt squirrel in about 20k acres just down the road this weekend. I have over 100k acres of public land within maybe 15-20 minutes.......feels good man.

How much does it cost to squirrel hunt down there?

The whole concept of massive swaths of private land is hard to accept for me. You only have to go back a little while to see that it is basically stolen by one form of corruption or another.


And the public land was rightfully gained?


That is the point, it is public, it is everyone’s. Sometimes the government mismanages it but that is better than some crooked judge awarding thousands of acres to the guy that paid him the bigger bribe 150 years ago.


So it’s okay if it was wrongfully gained so long as everyone has equal access to it? So the property is owned by the common, and controlled by the government? Society as a whole owns the land?

It’s funny, for a forum that runs around calling everything socialism even when it isn’t, yet advocates for Socialism when it comes to hunting land.


Where did your land originate? Was it also wrongfully obtained at some point?

We can take that argument all the way back to Africa when humans first left.

The point is, that the state is steward of public land....land that is for everyone to use. It's just another public service, like road.

It's a good thing, because otherwise any type of outdoor recreation becomes a pay to play game. If you can't see why that's a bad thing, then you're better off in a state like that.

That was my point, the other poster was the one who posited the logic in the first place. I was pointing out its contradiction.

That argument chain that you’re using is the exact same one that the argument of why everything should be socialized stems from. Their critique of capitalism is that it is pay to play, that resources are accumulating in an unfair way that allows those individuals to exert undue force to control markets and resources.

So congrats, you are an actual Socialist (not one that uniformed and room temp IQ conservatives think is socialism).


If you use roads and fire service, you're a socialist too.....congratulations.

Using and supporting are two very different things.

>hurrr if you pay taxes you’re a hypocrite

Smooth brain logic. You’re here openly advocating for socialism.




Learn what socialism does s before accusing others.

Tell me in your own words what it is.


I already gave you the 5 cent description and you don’t seem to understand the difference between a factory and a forest.

A Forrest is a resource.

Socialism is literally the public ownership of property and natural resources.

Do you know literally anything about socialism? Have you even read any foundational texts of socialism? Have you even read Marx or Engels?

Obamacare isn’t a factory either, but is considered socialized health care… why is that?
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Texas is definitely the best — everyone should move there. That would make my life a lot better.
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