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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:27:28 PM EST
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To Sevastopol?   That place is dangerous!
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The Brannigan maneuver.

zap branningan explains his genius strategy for defeating killbots futurama
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:30:02 PM EST
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It must be nice to be a UkeBro.

Pretend in unlimited money, and if people call you out on that myth, accuse them of treason.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:30:56 PM EST
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The Brannigan maneuver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF3g4Ua5e7k
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talk about a theory complete consistent with libertarianism.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:32:18 PM EST
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It must be nice to be a UkeBro.

Pretend in unlimited money, and if people call you out on that myth, accuse them of treason.
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Yeah. I'll bet we gave away our last storm shadow to destroy those poor Russian warships.

Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:34:28 PM EST
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Yeah. I'll bet we gave away our last storm shadow to destroy those poor Russian warships.

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Which one is the consistent argument?

We don't become involved in external argument not consistent with US interests?

Or...

We become involved in open foreign wars with no specific end point?

Like I don't care either way...I just want to know which of your 20000 posts to ignore.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:35:22 PM EST
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They sailed there prior to Turkey barring further military ships through the strait into the Black Sea.


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They sailed the Minsk there along with 5 other LSTs. It is officially part of the Baltic Fleet. Turkey will allow anything Frigate or smaller or any LST to transit.



They sailed there prior to Turkey barring further military ships through the strait into the Black Sea.


https://theconversation.com/what-the-montreux-convention-is-and-what-it-means-for-the-ukraine-war-178136

Learn something
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:36:16 PM EST
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They only have a few of those boats in the Black Sea, and they are using them for logistics.   Damage the bridge, and...
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Okay.  You're right. There is zero proof that Ukraine "destroyed" the Kilo-class submarine, "Rostov-on-Don" or the Landing Craft.

However, it WOULD be a significant event if they did, correct?

Kilo yes, Landing craft debatable


They only have a few of those boats in the Black Sea, and they are using them for logistics.   Damage the bridge, and...
They had 11. They now have 10.

Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:38:02 PM EST
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Nice cherry picked screenshot. Here's the view to the right. It got hot enough for decks to collapse and steel windows to sag to the point of almost being closed. Want to place bets on how long it takes them to gut that thing to the bare hull and rebuild? They won't. They don't have the shipbuilding capability to do it in Sevastopol, and they can't get it out of there. Poland built that landing ship anyways so it's not like they're going to tow it back to the shipyard that built it and have it rebuilt. Poland will tell them to fuck off. That's a total loss.

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Yet my response was to a post that said it was "burnt to the waterline" it wasn't.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:38:15 PM EST
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It must be nice to be a UkeBro.

Pretend in unlimited money, and if people call you out on that myth, accuse them of treason.
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Classy bro!
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:40:42 PM EST
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Classy bro!
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It must be nice to be a UkeBro.

Pretend in unlimited money, and if people call you out on that myth, accuse them of treason.

Classy bro!


My goal is to be on both hit lists.

Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:47:06 PM EST
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It must be nice to be a UkeBro.

Pretend in unlimited money, and if people call you out on that myth, accuse them of treason.
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With the amount of wildly incorrect and embellished positions projected as Ukebro held positions, there are hardly any actual Ukebros on this site as you describe them.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:49:35 PM EST
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#1 is inclusive and at their discretion when they declare that they are threatened by "Aggression."   They can block all warships.  Regardless of size.   #4 is not an exception to #1.  #4 are the treaty limitations on tonnage that can traverse at any one time.

The only way Russia is sailing any warships into the Black Sea is if Turkey decides to buy a line about "they're just returning to home port" or if Turkey decides to say that particular warship isn't actually a warship.  Again, subject to Turkey's discretion.

Turkey has clearly stated, no new warships may enter.  None have, including landing ships.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:50:54 PM EST
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Which one is the consistent argument?

We don't become involved in external argument not consistent with US interests?

Or...

We become involved in open foreign wars with no specific end point?

Like I don't care either way...I just want to know which of your 20000 posts to ignore.
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Not to sound flippant, but hopefully all of them.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 3:54:27 PM EST
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My goal is to be on both hit lists.

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Haha, consider crossing that off your bucket list achievement goals…
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 4:32:03 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 5:03:17 PM EST
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They had 11. They now have 10.

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They had 11. They now have 10.



What happened to the ones that were damaged during the Ukrainian Tochka strike on berdyansk and the Drone attacks? Specifically the Olenegorsky Gornyak, Novocherkassk, and Ceasar Kunikov?

They're still holed up with no way of repairing them.

Where is the Saratov?

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It must be nice to be a UkeBro.

Pretend in unlimited money, and if people call you out on that myth, accuse them of treason.


That's a nice straw man argument if I ever saw one. And totally wrong.

Ukebros get accused of treason pretty often and myself quite a bit.






Link Posted: 9/14/2023 5:41:57 PM EST
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They sailed the Minsk there along with 5 other LSTs. It is officially part of the Baltic Fleet. Turkey will allow anything Frigate or smaller or any LST to transit.
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They sailed the Minsk there along with 5 other LSTs. It is officially part of the Baltic Fleet. Turkey will allow anything Frigate or smaller or any LST to transit.


What happened to the other couple LSTs?

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Oh you mean the rest of the undamaged hull? You can do that if you think it's some gotcha.


Take another look at the superstructure.

it's destroyed.


@daoliver924
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 5:56:26 PM EST
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With the amount of wildly incorrect and embellished positions projected as Ukebro held positions, there are hardly any actual Ukebros on this site as you describe them.
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Shall we create a public list?

Link Posted: 9/14/2023 5:57:01 PM EST
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Not to sound flippant, but hopefully all of them.
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Man, that's a claim.

"Everything I say is bullshit!"
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 6:00:48 PM EST
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That's not true either. The motive of the poster in question plays a large part. You, for example, have some very good points. There are others in this thread who are very disingenuous who do not. As is typical in these threads, little distinction is made to anyone opposed to one's own viewpoint and it devolves into petty name calling.
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Fuck you, tyrant!

Seriously...

Motives are notoriously hard to distinguish via text.

For example, I've tried to get to some level of shared understanding with a UkeBro about four posts up, who told me in in no uncertain terms to get fucked.

That's fine. My paycheck is solid either way. But it lets me know what the real intellectual basis of their argument is, which is "shut up and color, us lefties are right on this one and if you disagree you're in bed with Russsian Collusion!"

I mean, its an argument, and I think I'd think I'd every right to tell such a person they're a waste of site resources, but alas, our COC. Don't want to be Vito113'd.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 6:00:56 PM EST
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With the amount of wildly incorrect and embellished positions projected as Ukebro held positions, there are hardly any actual Ukebros on this site as you describe them.
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But they are very vocal. Almost like they are being paid.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 6:01:55 PM EST
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That's a nice straw man argument if I ever saw one. And totally wrong.

Ukebros get accused of treason pretty often and myself quite a bit.

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Here is the nicest way I can say it.

You're not a serious interlocutor just like a cheerleader isn't an eligible receiver.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 6:01:55 PM EST
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Some will die defending the Motherland.  Most of the hot chicks will flee in search of better alpha/Sigma males.  Some will prefer the Dubai portapotty life..

Some will love to be Russian slavs.

The psychology of occupied nations.

There is a false video on Amazon prime, 'Ukraine is not a brothel'.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:02:17 PM EST
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Man, that's a claim.

"Everything I say is bullshit!"
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Not what I said or implied.

I said I hope you ignore what I say.  20 years of obsession is long enough.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 9:06:01 PM EST
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What happened to the ones that were damaged during the Ukrainian Tochka strike on berdyansk and the Drone attacks? Specifically the Olenegorsky Gornyak, Novocherkassk, and Ceasar Kunikov?

They're still holed up with no way of repairing them.

Where is the Saratov?



That's a nice straw man argument if I ever saw one. And totally wrong.

Ukebros get accused of treason pretty often and myself quite a bit.






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The Saratov (Tapir class) is not the same class as the Minsk (Ropucha). There are 10 Ropucha class LSTs left in the BSF.
Olenegorsky Gornyak under repair (it's been a little over a  month)

Novocherkassk and  Caesar Kunikov have both been repaired.






Link Posted: 9/14/2023 9:27:55 PM EST
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Not what I said or implied.

I said I hope you ignore what I say.  20 years of obsession is long enough.
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Obsession.

That's a...odd term.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 9:29:09 PM EST
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I still don’t understand how a bunch of elderly and children are going to be acting unpredictably.
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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 9:59:55 PM EST
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What is the long term accuracy percentage of A Jones v the peope that the pro-Ukrainian crowd gets their news from?
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Alex Jones on C-Span in 2004


911 2006 Truth Rally at the CFR Headquarters -Full


Alex Jones Leads Mob Against Michelle Malkin
Link Posted: 9/15/2023 11:16:46 AM EST
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I still don’t understand how a bunch of elderly and children are going to be acting unpredictably.
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Lol!
Link Posted: 9/15/2023 5:18:53 PM EST
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The Saratov (Tapir class) is not the same class as the Minsk (Ropucha). There are 10 Ropucha class LSTs left in the BSF.
Olenegorsky Gornyak under repair (it's been a little over a  month)

Novocherkassk and  Caesar Kunikov have both been repaired.


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Where are they then?

The Novocherkassk and Ceasar are where?

They were damaged by an SRBM strike last year. Surely Russia can fix them with the dry docks in Sevastopol which are totally safe, right?

Why, the manufacturer is willing to give spare parts to Russia to get them fixed, too

@Daoliver924
Link Posted: 9/16/2023 4:11:05 AM EST
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Not in the slightest. I can't think of a single thing that UKR provides that the US should be interested in
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I think anyone that eats food is going to miss Ukrainian agricultural products being on the world market, including us in the US. Not like my bill for groceries isn't high enough already.

While grain is a fungible commodity, and most Ukrainian grain went to Africa and the Middle East, a much higher cost of groceries there in the next few years could lead to instability. All of which can be laid at the feet of that piece of shit Putin.
Link Posted: 9/16/2023 8:25:12 AM EST
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Where are they then?

The Novocherkassk and Ceasar are where?

They were damaged by an SRBM strike last year. Surely Russia can fix them with the dry docks in Sevastopol which are totally safe, right?

Why, the manufacturer is willing to give spare parts to Russia to get them fixed, too

@Daoliver924
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The Saratov (Tapir class) is not the same class as the Minsk (Ropucha). There are 10 Ropucha class LSTs left in the BSF.
Olenegorsky Gornyak under repair (it's been a little over a  month)

Novocherkassk and  Caesar Kunikov have both been repaired.




Where are they then?

The Novocherkassk and Ceasar are where?

They were damaged by an SRBM strike last year. Surely Russia can fix them with the dry docks in Sevastopol which are totally safe, right?

Why, the manufacturer is willing to give spare parts to Russia to get them fixed, too

@Daoliver924
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Link Posted: 9/16/2023 8:35:23 AM EST
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That's not true either. The motive of the poster in question plays a large part. You, for example, have some very good points. There are others in this thread who are very disingenuous who do not. As is typical in these threads, little distinction is made to anyone opposed to one's own viewpoint and it devolves into petty name calling.
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It must be nice to be a UkeBro.

Pretend in unlimited money, and if people call you out on that myth, accuse them of treason.

That's not true either. The motive of the poster in question plays a large part. You, for example, have some very good points. There are others in this thread who are very disingenuous who do not. As is typical in these threads, little distinction is made to anyone opposed to one's own viewpoint and it devolves into petty name calling.



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Link Posted: 9/16/2023 2:07:11 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/16/2023 2:47:38 PM EST
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The Saratov (Tapir class) is not the same class as the Minsk (Ropucha). There are 10 Ropucha class LSTs left in the BSF.
Olenegorsky Gornyak under repair (it's been a little over a  month)

Novocherkassk and  Caesar Kunikov have both been repaired.




Where are they then?

The Novocherkassk and Ceasar are where?

They were damaged by an SRBM strike last year. Surely Russia can fix them with the dry docks in Sevastopol which are totally safe, right?

Why, the manufacturer is willing to give spare parts to Russia to get them fixed, too

@Daoliver924
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So in other words you are cluesless or, even worse, just making shit up.

But does it come as a surprise?
Link Posted: 9/16/2023 4:22:06 PM EST
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"personal" attacks
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