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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:10:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair a lot are women {I’m not the woman warrior proponent} and children. As for the men of fighting age, we’ll, it is what it is How do you say Jodie in Ukrainian? 
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:10:20 PM EST
[#2]
Well I love Putin so I want to see the aid cut.
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:10:25 PM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Except neither were lost. I mean, of course they didn't lose them. Hard to misplace a ship in drydock. Even we can see them by satellite. They've just been heavily modified. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:12:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which one are you? The LST or the diesel submarine? |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:12:07 PM EST
[#5]
Why not? Works well for Iran, Pakistan and N. Korea.
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:12:14 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People really don’t understand Slavs are middle eastern without the smell. 
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:13:53 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Since them being damaged is a glimmer of hope in your otherwise dismal world, have at it. lol What's dismal about it? Russia is losing mega-bucks worth of useful military hardware. Did you see that expensive radar they lost a couple of weeks ago in Crimea, too? *chef's kiss* Fuck em. This is great. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:14:56 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The nuanced details of Tool's discography aside...  Awww. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:15:13 PM EST
[#9]
Quoted: Well I'm shocked, Zelensky sounding like an ungrateful thug. Who could have seen this coming! "Don't push Ukrainians into a corner by cutting Western support for the war or else the millions of refugees who have presently "behaved well" in Europe may start to act unpredictably, President Zelensky has said." "There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned", Zelensky is reported to have intoned, saying while they are grateful for the asylum they had been given during the war and had "behaved well" so far, this could apparently not be guaranteed to continue. In perhaps some of the darkest words Zelensky has had for his European allies during the war, the magazine reports he told them: " it would not be a 'good story' for Europe if it were to 'drive these people into a corner'." Article link  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:16:24 PM EST
[#10]
Zero. Fucks. Given.
And that’s just the Ukrainians in Western Europe. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:18:05 PM EST
[#11]
I actually don’t mind the known trolls, as much as I pity their weak minded demoralized alcoholytes, who lap up the propaganda like 190 proof colostrum.
 There’s no sense of shame anymore. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:18:13 PM EST
[#12]
It never fails, Ukraine does something on the battlefield and the next day the Anti Ukraine threads roll.
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:18:17 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol What's dismal about it? Russia is losing mega-bucks worth of useful military hardware. Did you see that expensive radar they lost a couple of weeks ago in Crimea, too? *chef's kiss* Fuck em. This is great. Careful he may put you ignore for insulting the glorious motherland. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:19:56 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I say let’s cut their aid to zero and see just how “unpredictable” they are. Your terms are acceptable |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:21:47 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It never fails, Ukraine does something on the battlefield and the next day the Anti Ukraine threads roll. Is this thread not about what Zelensky just said (if you cared to read the OP)? |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:21:48 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you say Jodie in Ukrainian? 
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:21:53 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Classic GD. Well played, Sketti!  So, what's your thoughts on Zelensky's attempted extortion of the west; For or Against?
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:24:25 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not? Works well for Iran, Pakistan and N. Korea. I think DPRK is the only one Biden hasn’t transferred $ to recently  Attached Filehttps://www.dawn.com/news/1626456  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:24:47 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol What's dismal about it? Russia is losing mega-bucks worth of useful military hardware. Did you see that expensive radar they lost a couple of weeks ago in Crimea, too? *chef's kiss* Fuck em. This is great. It sustained damage and some Ukebro's opinion on twitter is not the same as reality.
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:26:05 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Which one are you? The LST or the diesel submarine? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, just a personal attack, nothing about Zelensky's extortion of the west? Which one are you? The LST or the diesel submarine? Lol, I find it amusing that the cult thinks I care about Russian military shit getting blown up. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:29:55 PM EST
[#21]
Quoted: Well I'm shocked, Zelensky sounding like an ungrateful thug. Who could have seen this coming! "Don't push Ukrainians into a corner by cutting Western support for the war or else the millions of refugees who have presently "behaved well" in Europe may start to act unpredictably, President Zelensky has said." "There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned", Zelensky is reported to have intoned, saying while they are grateful for the asylum they had been given during the war and had "behaved well" so far, this could apparently not be guaranteed to continue. In perhaps some of the darkest words Zelensky has had for his European allies during the war, the magazine reports he told them: " it would not be a 'good story' for Europe if it were to 'drive these people into a corner'." Article link If you bother to read the article it mentions that the "Economist" article is largely paraphrasing him because they were having difficulties translating what he said. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:32:24 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to read it regularly 20 years ago but after it went Hillary 2016 I redirected to other publications. Every once in awhile I'll skim its headlines Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:  How long have you had a paid subscription to the Economist? I used to read it regularly 20 years ago but after it went Hillary 2016 I redirected to other publications. Every once in awhile I'll skim its headlines I've only ever had one paid news subscription and I started it in 2011. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:32:59 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Played"? So, what's your thoughts on Zelensky's attempted extortion of the west; For or Against?He’s waiting on his partner in crime Faded to text him his answer… |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:36:01 PM EST
[#24]
If they start acting up just deport them to Russia.
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:37:03 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Gee, you bring in thousands of people that are basically the red headed stepchildren of the Russians and expect they're going to act like westerners?  You have it backwards. And Ukrainians are extraordinarily well behaved. Travelling to Ukraine makes you embarrassed for American society. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:37:31 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you bother to read the article it mentions that the "Economist" article is largely paraphrasing him because they were having difficulties translating what he said. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well I'm shocked, Zelensky sounding like an ungrateful thug. Who could have seen this coming! "Don't push Ukrainians into a corner by cutting Western support for the war or else the millions of refugees who have presently "behaved well" in Europe may start to act unpredictably, President Zelensky has said." "There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned", Zelensky is reported to have intoned, saying while they are grateful for the asylum they had been given during the war and had "behaved well" so far, this could apparently not be guaranteed to continue. In perhaps some of the darkest words Zelensky has had for his European allies during the war, the magazine reports he told them: " it would not be a 'good story' for Europe if it were to 'drive these people into a corner'." Article link If you bother to read the article it mentions that the "Economist" article is largely paraphrasing him because they were having difficulties translating what he said. Yeah, saw that, so? |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:38:16 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's waiting on his partner in crime Faded to text him his answer Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Played"? So, what's your thoughts on Zelensky's attempted extortion of the west; For or Against?He's waiting on his partner in crime Faded to text him his answer |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:38:24 PM EST
[#28]
LOL Russia had a shit day apparently.
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:38:46 PM EST
[#29]
Maybe we should find out. Maybe they should all go back home then.
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:38:47 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It wouldn't be the first time the US armed some groups to fight Russia, and they turned around and became hostile to the US later https://i.imgflip.com/7z1j57.jpg This. When we are fighting in ukrainistan in 20 years which side will the bros be on? |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:39:24 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well its not like any of them will resort to violence and fight. Yeah they'll rebel violently in their host's nations but won't stay at home and fight for their own? |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:39:29 PM EST
[#32]
Quoted: Well I'm shocked, Zelensky sounding like an ungrateful thug. Who could have seen this coming! "Don't push Ukrainians into a corner by cutting Western support for the war or else the millions of refugees who have presently "behaved well" in Europe may start to act unpredictably, President Zelensky has said." "There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned", Zelensky is reported to have intoned, saying while they are grateful for the asylum they had been given during the war and had "behaved well" so far, this could apparently not be guaranteed to continue. In perhaps some of the darkest words Zelensky has had for his European allies during the war, the magazine reports he told them: " it would not be a 'good story' for Europe if it were to 'drive these people into a corner'." Article link Okay. Let's just see what happens. Pull it. LOL What a dumbass. Or maybe not. What if the little turd salted some agents in amongst the "refugees" with the intent to "get even" or disrupt or whatever. So lets say that happens. Zee-Skee turns his little robots on Europe. Blow up a taxi or three, shoot out some windows, what? Bomb Paris while waving the yellow and blue? Gee. I wonder what Europe's response would be. So why would a "refugee" who fled his Country while it was at war, do that? Cause a ruckus for the very people who took them in? Doesn't sound reasonable, now, huh? All our "aid" will do is perhaps prolong the inevitable. Well, unless the Russians decide enough is enough. Either way, zelensky's done and he knows it. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:40:10 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you bother to read the article it mentions that the "Economist" article is largely paraphrasing him because they were having difficulties translating what he said. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well I'm shocked, Zelensky sounding like an ungrateful thug. Who could have seen this coming! "Don't push Ukrainians into a corner by cutting Western support for the war or else the millions of refugees who have presently "behaved well" in Europe may start to act unpredictably, President Zelensky has said." "There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned", Zelensky is reported to have intoned, saying while they are grateful for the asylum they had been given during the war and had "behaved well" so far, this could apparently not be guaranteed to continue. In perhaps some of the darkest words Zelensky has had for his European allies during the war, the magazine reports he told them: " it would not be a 'good story' for Europe if it were to 'drive these people into a corner'." Article link If you bother to read the article it mentions that the "Economist" article is largely paraphrasing him because they were having difficulties translating what he said. Excellent. Please post the economist article so everyone can see what they said. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:43:38 PM EST
[#34]
Here's hoping the Russians get lucky and smoke his ungrateful, sawed off PoS self.
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:43:45 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If they start acting up just deport them to Russia. Trying to run Operation KEELHAUL 2: The Electric Boogaloo on Ukrainian Refugees is probably the one thing that could make Puffer outrage porn into reality. 
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:44:38 PM EST
[#36]
For context not a whole lot has changed other than the Freedom Caucus innthe US Congress saying more aid is a non starter. In Europe the same countries who haven’t or barely aided Ukraine continue to not do much and the same countries that support Ukraine with aid continue. Civilian aid wise Europe now edges out USA but the U.S. military aid is still dominate. I’m not aware of the UK, Poland faction floating reductions or no further aid nor any major new aid from countries that haven’t done much previously so I’m not sure where the instigation for statements from Zelensky would be motivated from
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:46:16 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this thread not about what Zelensky just said (if you cared to read the OP)? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It never fails, Ukraine does something on the battlefield and the next day the Anti Ukraine threads roll. Is this thread not about what Zelensky just said (if you cared to read the OP)? I read it and checked out the Economist story as far as possible paywalled and all. Red flags started flying right about here. "While the interview with the Economist largely paraphrases Zelensky’s words — as a non-native speaker his English can be a little convoluted" So did he mean what is claimed or not? Why not post the actual conversation without paraphrasing? This isn't an article meant to inform a reader as it is to steer or reaffirm an opinion. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:49:03 PM EST
[#38]
I’m not aware of anything similar in Europe unless anyone has news I’ve missed https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/09/09/ukraine-aid-republicans/
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:49:39 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent. Please post the economist article so everyone can see what they said. Read sketis link in the first post. Not complicated. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:51:51 PM EST
[#40]
This is the only thing I’ve seen as far as the Europeans https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/07/13/uk-defense-secretary-says-ukraines-allies-want-gratitude.html
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:53:51 PM EST
[#41]
In before Ukraine Bros rate thread "TROLL THREAD".
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:54:53 PM EST
[#42]
Lol Putinbros are very touchy.
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:58:03 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are hilarious The Minsk (your mega-bucks of useful military hardware) was commissioned 30 May 1983. It sustained damage and some Ukebro's opinion on twitter is not the same as reality.
LOL You know all of their LSTs in the Black Sea save for maybe one Ivan Gren class are of the same vintage, right? Bragging that its not a big deal because of its age is a bit of a self-own. You know why it was in drydock? Because they were still using it. Same for all the other LSTs that Ukraine has hit that were subsequently put into drydock. Yes its old. No, they can't really afford to lose them. They're using them. They don't have that many Ivan Grens to replace them with. Four total in the entire Russian navy? And none that Turkey will allow into the Black Sea. And how old was that improved Kilo, btw? |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 4:58:54 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah they'll rebel violently in their host's nations but won't stay at home and fight for their own? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well its not like any of them will resort to violence and fight. Yeah they'll rebel violently in their host's nations but won't stay at home and fight for their own? That would be consistent with most refugees in the 21st century |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 5:00:11 PM EST
[#45]
Sketti feels threatened.
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Posted: 9/13/2023 5:00:20 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Read sketis link in the first post. Not complicated. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Excellent. Please post the economist article so everyone can see what they said. Read sketis link in the first post. Not complicated. You can’t read the whole article without a subscription. To those who said, “ if you’d bothered to read the article,” please post the article for all to view. |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 5:02:20 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sketti feels threatened. Where is your boy faded? |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 5:06:49 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Played"? So, what's your thoughts on Zelensky's attempted extortion of the west; For or Against?Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Classic GD. Well played, Sketti! So, what's your thoughts on Zelensky's attempted extortion of the west; For or Against?You are claiming that Zelenskyy is threatening the West? You have a direct quote? |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 5:07:06 PM EST
[#49]
I'm just here to read Faded Sun's and Cincinnatus deflective posts that ignore OP article.
I feel like Ferris B. teacher... Faded, Faded, Faded....... |
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Posted: 9/13/2023 5:08:10 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent. Please post the economist article so everyone can see what they said. Maybe the person who posted the first article that relies on it should so we don't have to just take his word for it. |
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