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That Spartan / Molon Labe 1911 is indeed sweet ![]() I couldnt quite make out the MSRP . . . . do you remember what it was ? I think I see one of these in my future. |
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Does Boyd have any more "Cimarron" pics he could share with us? ![]() This^ ![]() BigDozer66 |
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I didn't make it this year. Any game changers? ![]() Yep, I missed you, Bill. That Mossbery lever gun is a "game changer" fo sho. So Mossberg had Red Jacket build it for them? ![]() BigDozer66 |
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That Spartan / Molon Labe 1911 is indeed sweet ![]() I couldnt quite make out the MSRP . . . . do you remember what it was ? About $1,350. Worth every penny, I'm sure. ![]() |
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Did you see any new and interesting rifles, aside from the Mossberg 30/30 that is? We saw hundreds of new and interesting rifles. ![]() I wish I could have taken a picture of all of them, but I had to narrow it down to a reasonable number. Lots of very nice bolt guns. Lots of "sniper" type rifles. Can you tell me more about the new Model 29? Is this a true re-pro of the older models?
It is a very close model of the old Model 29. It has that stupid safety lock screw right above the cylinder latch. But if you can get past that, the rest of the pistol is beautiful. I wish they would dump that silly safety lock. |
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That Sig 1911 Spartan is one sweet gun. Damn it! may have to wait on that Tavor and get the Spartan first. I know I know....get both
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Great pictures and thank you. I can see a Savage .22 in my future. Ted and I were very impressed with those rifles. Their triggers are just amazing. I bet with a high quality scope they would just put the bullets through the same hole. ![]() I have a MkII BTVS. It is the right-handed twin of one of the ones in your picture. It really is a laser beam with my Leupold scope on it. The Accu-Trigger really is excellent. I imagine that I will eventually end up with one of those rifles. ![]() |
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Did you hold the mossberg tactical lever gun? how is it ergonomically. I know its a visual abomination, but if it is functional, at least it has some merit. I will honestly admit that I did not shoulder the rifle, as I was afraid someone would take my picture with it. ![]() I suppose it is "functional", but it is not beautiful. ![]() |
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Does that one revolver have a rail on it? Please no... The: "I also was impressed with this Model 325 in .45 ACP. What a smooth pistol!" Sure looks like it. For an extra fee, I'm sure that an M4 buttstock can be fitted to it. ![]() |
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Thanks for the great pics and commentary O_P! You deliver the goods as always. Many thanks. ![]() |
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Old painless did you see any new scope's from trijicon sir? I did look at the Trijicon stuff. My buddy Liem spent a lot of time there. I will see if he has anything new to add. |
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Awesome pics O_P! Did Glock mention when they were gonna start selling the Gen III models again? ![]() I know what you mean. That new spring is an "ingenious solution to a non-existent problem" if there ever was one. ![]() |
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Did you hold the mossberg tactical lever gun? how is it ergonomically. I know its a visual abomination, but if it is functional, at least it has some merit. I will honestly admit that I did not shoulder the rifle, as I was afraid someone would take my picture with it. ![]() I suppose it is "functional", but it is not beautiful. ![]() Did Mossberg say whether or not it would be available in handgun calibers or that they would make a take-down model? |
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I don't understand why S&W still ships that stupid safety lock. People keep saying they're not the same company they used to be; well the quickest way they could show that would be to drop that un-feature, and offer a factory removal for all the ones out there for a small fee.
edit: I felt like I was driving a little off-topic so I came back to say something about the pics, but then I saw those Mossbergs ![]() Too bad they didn't really let you play with those Dillons. I'm sure you could find an appropriate box of truth. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Did you see any new and interesting rifles, aside from the Mossberg 30/30 that is? We saw hundreds of new and interesting rifles. ![]() I wish I could have taken a picture of all of them, but I had to narrow it down to a reasonable number. Lots of very nice bolt guns. Lots of "sniper" type rifles. Can you tell me more about the new Model 29? Is this a true re-pro of the older models? It is a very close model of the old Model 29. It has that stupid safety lock screw right above the cylinder latch. But if you can get past that, the rest of the pistol is beautiful. I wish they would dump that silly safety lock. I was afraid of that. The lock has never bothered me on my 642 with more than 1,000 round through it, but a .44 mag is going to take a lot more abuse. I'd hate to tell someone to go ahead and make my day and then have my pistol lock. |
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I'd hate to tell someone to go ahead and make my day and then have my pistol lock. ![]() |
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Thanks for posting those pictures.
Those Savage rimfires are on the short list of 'something nice for my F-I-L' when his birthday rolls around again. |
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I'd hate to tell someone to go ahead and make my day and then have my pistol lock. ![]() "I know what you're thinking. "Did the vibrations of the shooting inadvertantly cause my gun lock to engage?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of forget that could happen. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk? " |
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I played with a Caracal for a minute at a LGS last week, neat little gun. $500ish, points like a glock (a bit high for me) but is ergonomic otherwise. Reminds me of what would happen if a Glock, Steyr, and P7 all mated. Funny that you mention that. The designer of that Caracal was a former Glock employee who went on to design the Steyr M and S series pistols. Edit: Wilhelm Bubits is the person I'm referring to. Yes indeed. Like the Steyr M Series, the Caracal's bore axis is extremely low. Nothing is as low except possibly H&K P7 series (the S&W M&P comes close). Recoil is generally STRAIGHT back into the hand with very little muzzle rise. Advantage here is obvious if you are shooting quickly. Contrasted with the Steyr M Series, the Caracal suppposedly uses FEWER parts. |
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I played with a Caracal for a minute at a LGS last week, neat little gun. $500ish, points like a glock (a bit high for me) but is ergonomic otherwise. Reminds me of what would happen if a Glock, Steyr, and P7 all mated. Funny that you mention that. The designer of that Caracal was a former Glock employee who went on to design the Steyr M and S series pistols. Edit: Wilhelm Bubits is the person I'm referring to. Yes indeed. Like the Steyr M Series, the Caracal's bore axis is extremely low. Nothing is as low except possibly H&K P7 series (the S&W M&P comes close). Recoil is generally STRAIGHT back into the hand with very little muzzle rise. Advantage here is obvious if you are shooting quickly. Contrasted with the Steyr M Series, the Caracal suppposedly uses FEWER parts. It's the handgun I'm really excited for. It might be a Glock killer for me, assuming mag prices are ridiculous when import picks up. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I'd hate to tell someone to go ahead and make my day and then have my pistol lock. ![]() "I know what you're thinking. "Did the vibrations of the shooting inadvertantly cause my gun lock to engage?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of forget that could happen. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk? " ![]() S&W, this is what we call, "A Hint". |
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I played with a Caracal for a minute at a LGS last week, neat little gun. $500ish, points like a glock (a bit high for me) but is ergonomic otherwise. Reminds me of what would happen if a Glock, Steyr, and P7 all mated. Funny that you mention that. The designer of that Caracal was a former Glock employee who went on to design the Steyr M and S series pistols. Edit: Wilhelm Bubits is the person I'm referring to. Yes indeed. Like the Steyr M Series, the Caracal's bore axis is extremely low. Nothing is as low except possibly H&K P7 series (the S&W M&P comes close). Recoil is generally STRAIGHT back into the hand with very little muzzle rise. Advantage here is obvious if you are shooting quickly. Contrasted with the Steyr M Series, the Caracal suppposedly uses FEWER parts. It's the handgun I'm really excited for. It might be a Glock killer for me, assuming mag prices are ridiculous when import picks up. Honestly, I was a lot more excited before I saw pics of how wide the slide/frame are. Gun seems extra wide (putting it nicely as I can). OP: when you get this gun, could you compare it to your Glock 34 or a 17, and maybe a Smith and Wesson M&P? Those 3 seem to be quite similar in many respects. Thnx. |
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I played with a Caracal for a minute at a LGS last week, neat little gun. $500ish, points like a glock (a bit high for me) but is ergonomic otherwise. Reminds me of what would happen if a Glock, Steyr, and P7 all mated. Funny that you mention that. The designer of that Caracal was a former Glock employee who went on to design the Steyr M and S series pistols. Edit: Wilhelm Bubits is the person I'm referring to. Yes indeed. Like the Steyr M Series, the Caracal's bore axis is extremely low. Nothing is as low except possibly H&K P7 series (the S&W M&P comes close). Recoil is generally STRAIGHT back into the hand with very little muzzle rise. Advantage here is obvious if you are shooting quickly. Contrasted with the Steyr M Series, the Caracal suppposedly uses FEWER parts. It's the handgun I'm really excited for. It might be a Glock killer for me, assuming mag prices are ridiculous when import picks up. Honestly, I was a lot more excited before I saw pics of how wide the slide/frame are. Gun seems extra wide (putting it nicely as I can). OP: when you get this gun, could you compare it to your Glock 34 or a 17, and maybe a Smith and Wesson M&P? Those 3 seem to be quite similar in many respects. Thnx. I held one from a gunshop in Columbus, and it didn't feel any wider than my 17. But then again, I didn't compare it. |
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Thanks for posting those pictures. Those Savage rimfires are on the short list of 'something nice for my F-I-L' when his birthday rolls around again. You will go way up on his list. ![]() |
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I eagerly await your Caracal review.
I have handled a few, but have never shot one. |
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For those interested, the Medal of Honor recipient Sam Davis is a legitimate hero and Warrior. He single handedly manned a damaged howitzer piece, firing directly at close enemies while under fire, after using a machine gun to try to hold them back.
Then he went directly into the fire to cross a river and rescue injured friendlies. Oh, and he was injured. Multiple times. And did I mention it was a fight between 42 Americans and an estimated 1,500 Viet Cong? Wiki link "For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life and beyond the call of duty. Sgt. Davis (then Pfc.) distinguished himself during the early morning hours while serving as a cannoneer with Battery C, at a remote fire support base. At approximately 0200 hours, the fire support base was under heavy enemy mortar attack. Simultaneously, an estimated reinforced Viet Cong battalion launched a fierce ground assault upon the fire support base. The attacking enemy drove to within 25 meters of the friendly positions. Only a river separated the Viet Cong from the fire support base. Detecting a nearby enemy position, Sgt. Davis seized a machine gun and provided covering fire for his guncrew, as they attempted to bring direct artillery fire on the enemy. Despite his efforts, an enemy recoilless rifle round scored a direct hit upon the artillery piece. The resultant blast hurled the guncrew from their weapon and blew Sgt. Davis into a foxhole. He struggled to his feet and returned to the howitzer, which was burning furiously. Ignoring repeated warnings to seek cover, Sgt. Davis rammed a shell into the gun. Disregarding a withering hail of enemy fire directed against his position, he aimed and fired the howitzer which rolled backward, knocking Sgt. Davis violently to the ground. Undaunted, he returned to the weapon to fire again when an enemy mortar round exploded within 20 meters of his position, injuring him painfully. Nevertheless, Sgt. Davis loaded the artillery piece, aimed and fired. Again he was knocked down by the recoil. In complete disregard for his safety, Sgt. Davis loaded and fired 3 more shells into the enemy. Disregarding his extensive injuries and his inability to swim, Sgt. Davis picked up an air mattress and struck out across the deep river to rescue 3 wounded comrades on the far side. Upon reaching the 3 wounded men, he stood upright and fired into the dense vegetation to prevent the Viet Cong from advancing. While the most seriously wounded soldier was helped across the river, Sgt. Davis protected the 2 remaining casualties until he could pull them across the river to the fire support base. Though suffering from painful wounds, he refused medical attention, joining another howitzer crew which fired at the large Viet Cong force until it broke contact and fled. Sgt. Davis' extraordinary heroism, at the risk of his life, are in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself and the U.S. Army." Thank you for the pictures O_P. I look forward to your future posts! |
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For those interested, the Medal of Honor recipient Sam Davis is a legitimate hero and Warrior. He single handedly manned a damaged howitzer piece, firing directly at close enemies while under fire, after using a machine gun to try to hold them back. Then he went directly into the fire to cross a river and rescue injured friendlies. Oh, and he was injured. Multiple times. And did I mention it was a fight between 42 Americans and an estimated 1,500 Viet Cong? Wiki link "For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life and beyond the call of duty. Sgt. Davis (then Pfc.) distinguished himself during the early morning hours while serving as a cannoneer with Battery C, at a remote fire support base. At approximately 0200 hours, the fire support base was under heavy enemy mortar attack. Simultaneously, an estimated reinforced Viet Cong battalion launched a fierce ground assault upon the fire support base. The attacking enemy drove to within 25 meters of the friendly positions. Only a river separated the Viet Cong from the fire support base. Detecting a nearby enemy position, Sgt. Davis seized a machine gun and provided covering fire for his guncrew, as they attempted to bring direct artillery fire on the enemy. Despite his efforts, an enemy recoilless rifle round scored a direct hit upon the artillery piece. The resultant blast hurled the guncrew from their weapon and blew Sgt. Davis into a foxhole. He struggled to his feet and returned to the howitzer, which was burning furiously. Ignoring repeated warnings to seek cover, Sgt. Davis rammed a shell into the gun. Disregarding a withering hail of enemy fire directed against his position, he aimed and fired the howitzer which rolled backward, knocking Sgt. Davis violently to the ground. Undaunted, he returned to the weapon to fire again when an enemy mortar round exploded within 20 meters of his position, injuring him painfully. Nevertheless, Sgt. Davis loaded the artillery piece, aimed and fired. Again he was knocked down by the recoil. In complete disregard for his safety, Sgt. Davis loaded and fired 3 more shells into the enemy. Disregarding his extensive injuries and his inability to swim, Sgt. Davis picked up an air mattress and struck out across the deep river to rescue 3 wounded comrades on the far side. Upon reaching the 3 wounded men, he stood upright and fired into the dense vegetation to prevent the Viet Cong from advancing. While the most seriously wounded soldier was helped across the river, Sgt. Davis protected the 2 remaining casualties until he could pull them across the river to the fire support base. Though suffering from painful wounds, he refused medical attention, joining another howitzer crew which fired at the large Viet Cong force until it broke contact and fled. Sgt. Davis' extraordinary heroism, at the risk of his life, are in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself and the U.S. Army." Thank you for the pictures O_P. I look forward to your future posts! Yep, he is the real deal. A great guy, too. |
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Honestly, I was a lot more excited before I saw pics of how wide the slide/frame are. Gun seems extra wide (putting it nicely as I can). OP: when you get this gun, could you compare it to your Glock 34 or a 17, and maybe a Smith and Wesson M&P? Those 3 seem to be quite similar in many respects. Thnx. I will surely do that if I can. ![]() |
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I eagerly await your Caracal review. I have handled a few, but have never shot one. Me too. ![]() |
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Awesome pics.. Thanks for posting those.
Everything looks awesome but.. lever action tactical? I'm gonna have to warm up to that..
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So there was nothing there that you didn't like or thought was a POS?
I want the bad and ugly to go along with the good, especially since many have commented that this was one of the worst shots in a long time. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Awesome pics.. Thanks for posting those. The comments about the lever action tactical were made in jest. ![]() I see little need for such a system. |
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So there was nothing there that you didn't like or thought was a POS? I want the bad and ugly to go along with the good, especially since many have commented that this was one of the worst shots in a long time. Well, I saw a few things that I was not impressed by. But I just ignored them. ![]() There are thousands of things to see there. Some bad, some okay, and some interesting. I took pictures of the interesting stuff. I did not think it was the "worst shots in a long time" by any means. I found lots of stuff that I thought was interesting. ![]() |
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That Spartan / Molon Labe 1911 is indeed sweet ![]() I couldnt quite make out the MSRP . . . . do you remember what it was ? About $1,350. Worth every penny, I'm sure. ![]() hhmmmm . . . . so probably around $1100 in real world pricing after it hits the shelves . Dang , that aint bad ![]() |
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Thanks for posting those pictures. Those Savage rimfires are on the short list of 'something nice for my F-I-L' when his birthday rolls around again. You will go way up on his list. ![]() The 93-17 varmint is a sweet rifle , I haven't taken my 10-22 into the woods since I bought mine years ago . |
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Thanks for posting those pictures. Those Savage rimfires are on the short list of 'something nice for my F-I-L' when his birthday rolls around again. You will go way up on his list. ![]() The 93-17 varmint is a sweet rifle , I haven't taken my 10-22 into the woods since I bought mine years ago . We noticed they had rifles in .22, .22 Magnum, and .17. I was not sure if the .17 could keep up with the .22 accuracy-wise. Any opinion? |
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Quoted: The price is pretty good for what you get with the MKII line, IMHO.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Great pictures and thank you. I can see a Savage .22 in my future. Ted and I were very impressed with those rifles. Their triggers are just amazing. I bet with a high quality scope they would just put the bullets through the same hole. ![]() I have a MkII BTVS. It is the right-handed twin of one of the ones in your picture. It really is a laser beam with my Leupold scope on it. The Accu-Trigger really is excellent. I imagine that I will eventually end up with one of those rifles. ![]() |
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Quoted: The comments about the lever action tactical were made in jest. ![]() I see little need for such a system. I've seen pictures of some models with threading for a flash hider-I imagine handloaded subsonic .30-30 and a suppressor would be very quiet. |
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