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Posted: 4/9/2024 1:40:57 PM EST
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That actually looks pretty good. Jury is still out on the motor.
If it is made in Japan, the MPG and accel numbers may sway me away from the GX550. *doubt it. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 1:42:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the torque rating? HP about the same. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 1:49:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah. Im still going to give it a shot. Im inclined too, tho the GX OT/+ is looking better now that's it's out and we can talk about the lack of exclusivity  the TMNA LC exhibits. You understand the pinion limits if anyone does. I don't see these as crucial but the main divergence are the BD24CN on the OT/+ and the V35, eKDSS (which bothers me more than the BD21DN in the TMNA LC). Kinda ticked the off-tar feature rich model is also Luxe. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 1:52:15 PM EST
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The front of the Limited is fuglyyyy 
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Posted: 4/9/2024 1:56:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryAt least it's a bit more fixable in the 6th gen without the need for a complete front end swap. China drop sellers will have TRD Pro knock offs for sale within a month. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:09:33 PM EST
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Well, we shall see if these leak photos hold up in a few more hours.
I am a bit disappointed as it looks like they are going to grow dimensions yet again. I wish they'd come out with a smaller version. This making every vehicle under the sun big and fat is fucking retarded. I am the outlier buyer, though I guess. I want the things that nobody else seems to care about. Smaller dimensions and package protect the bitch for 35 inch tires. Front and real lockers. E kdss would be neat too. Hopefully, they'll take a page out the Jeep book and make first gear a very short gear. Let the vehicle start out in second the rest of the time. I really enjoyed that feature on the 2.0 rubicon that I rented in Moab a couple years ago for my folks. Made it so that you didn't have to go in the four low that often when driving back roads. I'm sure it's gonna be mall crawler deluxe just like all the other cars these days. Lots of hype and lifestyle bs without anybody actually taking it too far off the gravel or pavement. Guess I better just prepare myself to keep running my third gen for more time yet. I keep wanting the baby Land Cruiser FJ concept to land in the states, but I kind of doubt it. I so wished I could get a modern vehicle with third generation 4runner dimensions. Pump gas and 300 hp. That would make me a happy man. But it seems as though Toyota is going to deny me my happiness.
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:15:12 PM EST
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What's up with the Dell notebook in the center
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:17:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, we shall see if these leak photos hold up in a few more hours. I am a bit disappointed as it looks like they are going to grow dimensions yet again. I wish they'd come out with a smaller version. This making every vehicle under the sun big and fat is fucking retarded. I am the outlier buyer, though I guess. I want the things that nobody else seems to care about. Smaller dimensions and package protect the bitch for 35 inch tires. Front and real lockers. E kdss would be neat too. Hopefully, they'll take a page out the Jeep book and make first gear a very short gear. Let the vehicle start out in second the rest of the time. I really enjoyed that feature on the 2.0 rubicon that I rented in Moab a couple years ago for my folks. Made it so that you didn't have to go in the four low that often when driving back roads. I'm sure it's gonna be mall crawler deluxe just like all the other cars these days. Lots of hype and lifestyle bs without anybody actually taking it too far off the gravel or pavement. Guess I better just prepare myself to keep running my third gen for more time yet. I keep wanting the baby Land Cruiser FJ concept to land in the states, but I kind of doubt it. I so wished I could get a modern vehicle with third generation 4runner dimensions. Pump gas and 300 hp. That would make me a happy man. But it seems as though Toyota is going to deny me my happiness. My wife and I chuckle at how close to each other sit when we are in our 98 3rd Gen. We sit closer together than in our Yamaha Wolverine Rmax2. The Rmax2 is taller and wider than our 3rd gen. We like the 3rd gen better than her 5th gen for overall size. I agree with you that its disappointing to see the 6th gen continue to get bigger, yet again. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:27:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Im inclined too, tho the GX OT/+ is looking better now that's it's out and we can talk about the lack of exclusivity the TMNA LC exhibits. You understand the pinion limits if anyone does. I don't see these as crucial but the main divergence are the BD24CN on the OT/+ and the V35, eKDSS (which bothers me more than the BD21DN in the TMNA LC). Kinda ticked the off-tar feature rich model is also Luxe. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah. Im still going to give it a shot. Im inclined too, tho the GX OT/+ is looking better now that's it's out and we can talk about the lack of exclusivity the TMNA LC exhibits. You understand the pinion limits if anyone does. I don't see these as crucial but the main divergence are the BD24CN on the OT/+ and the V35, eKDSS (which bothers me more than the BD21DN in the TMNA LC). Kinda ticked the off-tar feature rich model is also Luxe.  it hasn't grown on me at all. This is coming from someone who's owned two 470s and three 460s. The OT is at least a giant step in the right direction though. My use plan is keeping the new 5th Gen as the tougher off road use vehicle, and using the new LC as a daily, road trip, and lighter overlanding vehicle. Not really as worried yet for the diff specs on the 250 since it'll be lighter use for quite a while. Then again I'm also usually taking my new trucks straight to the obstacle course and seeing what they can do.  I know the 5th gen can take the abuse long term though so that makes the most sense for that rougher role still. One day I'll be able to post my gruesome photos. Damn things are tanks for sure
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:29:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, we shall see if these leak photos hold up in a few more hours. All fake  |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:33:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just don't like the look of the new GX it hasn't grown on me at all. This is coming from someone who's owned two 470s and three 460s. The OT is at least a giant step in the right direction though. My use plan is keeping the new 5th Gen as the tougher off road use vehicle, and using the new LC as a daily, road trip, and lighter overlanding vehicle. Not really as worried yet for the diff specs on the 250 since it'll be lighter use for quite a while. Then again I'm also usually taking my new trucks straight to the obstacle course and seeing what they can do. I know the 5th gen can take the abuse long term though so that makes the most sense for that rougher role still. One day I'll be able to post my gruesome photos. Damn things are tanks for sureSeeing the GX in person did change my opinion on the looks a bit, but at the end of the day it's still a bit too spendy for me. My take aways so far is that for everyone in a 5th gen there isn't any one big reason to jump onto the next gen right now, and I think that's a perfectly fine situation to be in. Heck, for those who still want a 5th gen they have an entire year to find one and Toyota seems to be shoving ships full of them over here onto the lots. They'll still have a good vehicle that will last for years and likely be perfectly happy with. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:36:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seeing the GX in person did change my opinion on the looks a bit, but at the end of the day it's still a bit too spendy for me. My take aways so far is that for everyone in a 5th gen there isn't any one big reason to jump onto the next gen right now, and I think that's a perfectly fine situation to be in. Heck, for those who still want a 5th gen they have an entire year to find one and Toyota seems to be shoving ships full of them over here onto the lots. They'll still have a good vehicle that will last for years and likely be perfectly happy with. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just don't like the look of the new GX it hasn't grown on me at all. This is coming from someone who's owned two 470s and three 460s. The OT is at least a giant step in the right direction though. My use plan is keeping the new 5th Gen as the tougher off road use vehicle, and using the new LC as a daily, road trip, and lighter overlanding vehicle. Not really as worried yet for the diff specs on the 250 since it'll be lighter use for quite a while. Then again I'm also usually taking my new trucks straight to the obstacle course and seeing what they can do. I know the 5th gen can take the abuse long term though so that makes the most sense for that rougher role still. One day I'll be able to post my gruesome photos. Damn things are tanks for sureSeeing the GX in person did change my opinion on the looks a bit, but at the end of the day it's still a bit too spendy for me. My take aways so far is that for everyone in a 5th gen there isn't any one big reason to jump onto the next gen right now, and I think that's a perfectly fine situation to be in. Heck, for those who still want a 5th gen they have an entire year to find one and Toyota seems to be shoving ships full of them over here onto the lots. They'll still have a good vehicle that will last for years and likely be perfectly happy with. ETA Im sure I'll own one of these 6th gens one day, probably next year knowing me
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:41:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The LC has much more cohesive and balanced proportions. The 4R looks like they hit the B pillar and went “oh fuck, just cram it all in there”. The 4R looks like an instagram mashup for 2 years ago. It’s not good. The LC looks like a finished product. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:47:34 PM EST
[#14]
Any MPG numbers? I am not seeing any...especially for the Hybrid.
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:49:00 PM EST
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:49:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any MPG numbers? I am not seeing any...especially for the Hybrid. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:51:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's going to be within 1mpg variance of the LC250's numbers Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any MPG numbers? I am not seeing any...especially for the Hybrid. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:53:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOh boy
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:53:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would bet slightly better due to part time 4wd vs full time in the 250 |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:59:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI was in the LC group but between window goes down and that green paint... |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:00:18 PM EST
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Well those Toyos sure look like A/T III EV. That EV is kinda important - and kinda makes sense.
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:03:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well those Toyos sure look like A/T III EV. That EV is kinda important - and kinda makes sense.
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:05:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Batteries be heavy yo Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well those Toyos sure look like A/T III EV. That EV is kinda important - and kinda makes sense. Now we know - kinda a weird mistake |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:10:21 PM EST
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Toyota knocked it out of the part with more ugly. Lately every generation and facelift looks worse and worse. Pretty disappointed.
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:11:07 PM EST
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When might these go on sale?
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:13:49 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When might these go on sale? Given the current patterns likely showing up on lots this time next year with allocations popping up early in 2025. Unless they throw a wildcard and shut down 2024 production early to get these going.. but that would be a bit of a departure from the norm these days. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:15:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Toyota knocked it out of the part with more ugly. Lately every generation and facelift looks worse and worse. Pretty disappointed. Tho agree there's stylistic issues, it's exudes ruggedness and attractive enough. Regardless take a look at GenY sales chart by year earlier. It's not hurting a thing |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:16:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Given the current patterns likely showing up on lots this time next year with allocations popping up early in 2025. Unless they throw a wildcard and shut down 2024 production early to get these going.. but that would be a bit of a departure from the norm these days. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When might these go on sale? Given the current patterns likely showing up on lots this time next year with allocations popping up early in 2025. Unless they throw a wildcard and shut down 2024 production early to get these going.. but that would be a bit of a departure from the norm these days. Figure mid Dec production startup - barring delays and QC holds |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:20:33 PM EST
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It went from generations of “rugged yet classy” proportions, to “full flat brim bro, salt life” proportions.
I guess it makes sense with the LC coming in at a lower price. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:22:21 PM EST
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Quoted: Any MPG numbers? I am not seeing any...especially for the Hybrid. Quoted: When might these go on sale? I'd like to think the 4Runner will be on a faster schedule than the GX, LC, and Tacoma because it's the last to launch, but we're probably still pretty far away from getting these details. The progression typically looks like this: Teasers *weeks/months* Reveal <-This is today *months* First drive press event *months* Production and sales begin, detailed reviews happen. Typically, we might get some highlight type numbers at the reveal. Things like "up to X horsepower," "tow up to Y pounds," or "expected starting price of Z." Usually, the journalists don't get to drive the vehicles at the reveal, and if they do, they don't get to talk about it until a later date. The first drive press events usually have vehicles on set courses for things like off road demos, towing, and road driving. This is the first time journalists can talk about driving impressions, and this is usually when we get more concrete specs like payload, curb weight, and maybe some more pricing. Journos might be able to say, in this driving situation, the instrument cluster is reporting X MPG. The official MPG numbers usually don't come until after a bunch of bureaucracy happens later. Typically you get those and detailed pricing by trim right before the vehicle goes on sale. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:24:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It went from generations of “rugged yet classy” proportions, to “full flat brim bro, salt life” proportions. I guess it makes sense with the LC coming in at a lower price. Yep. They are separating out the generations. I suspect you will see a lot of the older 4Runner drivers going with the LC, and the new 4Runner going to the newer crowd. I am due for a new ride in about 2 years and it will be between those two with me leaning more LC right now. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:25:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It went from generations of "rugged yet classy" proportions, to "full flat brim bro, salt life" proportions. I guess it makes sense with the LC coming in at a lower price. CALTY's obvious twinned much of Tacoma here - so not sure it's a surprise. There needed to be strong differentiation with the LC on the same lot - and again with the premium GX. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:29:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to think the 4Runner will be on a faster schedule than the GX, LC, and Tacoma because it's the last to launch, but we're probably still pretty far away from getting these details. The progression typically looks like this: Teasers *weeks/months* Reveal <-This is today *months* First drive press event *months* Production and sales begin, detailed reviews happen. Typically, we might get some highlight type numbers at the reveal. Things like "up to X horsepower," "tow up to Y pounds," or "expected starting price of Z." Usually, the journalists don't get to drive the vehicles at the reveal, and if they do, they don't get to talk about it until a later date. The first drive press events usually have vehicles on set courses for things like off road demos, towing, and road driving. This is the first time journalists can talk about driving impressions, and this is usually when we get more concrete specs like payload, curb weight, and maybe some more pricing. Journos might be able to say, in this driving situation, the instrument cluster is reporting X MPG. The official MPG numbers usually don't come until after a bunch of bureaucracy happens later. Typically you get those and detailed pricing by trim right before the vehicle goes on sale. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any MPG numbers? I am not seeing any...especially for the Hybrid. Quoted: When might these go on sale? I'd like to think the 4Runner will be on a faster schedule than the GX, LC, and Tacoma because it's the last to launch, but we're probably still pretty far away from getting these details. The progression typically looks like this: Teasers *weeks/months* Reveal <-This is today *months* First drive press event *months* Production and sales begin, detailed reviews happen. Typically, we might get some highlight type numbers at the reveal. Things like "up to X horsepower," "tow up to Y pounds," or "expected starting price of Z." Usually, the journalists don't get to drive the vehicles at the reveal, and if they do, they don't get to talk about it until a later date. The first drive press events usually have vehicles on set courses for things like off road demos, towing, and road driving. This is the first time journalists can talk about driving impressions, and this is usually when we get more concrete specs like payload, curb weight, and maybe some more pricing. Journos might be able to say, in this driving situation, the instrument cluster is reporting X MPG. The official MPG numbers usually don't come until after a bunch of bureaucracy happens later. Typically you get those and detailed pricing by trim right before the vehicle goes on sale. If it matches the Tacoma launch it will be: - First drive press event - please note this is a prototype. Don’t judge us. Months pass… - First press review - please note this is still a prototype. Don’t judge us. Months pass - Second press review - I’m not sure what is going on, but these still have preproduction plastics. The Camry has been a mess as well. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:31:03 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. They are separating out the generations. I suspect you will see a lot of the older 4Runner drivers going with the LC, and the new 4Runner going to the newer crowd. I am due for a new ride in about 2 years and it will be between those two with me leaning more LC right now. On the other hand, you see a rather popular sentiment in 'which 4Runner trim to buy' threads where owners are suggesting to buy the cheapest model and throw upgrades on it rather than buying the higher trims. The Land Cruiser is going to be a bigger financial ask, and given many current 4Runner owners already disparage the existing Limited and it's full time 4WD driveline as wasted money I'm not sure it's a slam dunk division between 'new' owners and 'old. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:35:33 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was in the LC group but between window goes down and that green paint... That retro green tho.. Put a faded tan interior in it and I'm back with my buddy in high school. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:45:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Toyota knocked it out of the part with more ugly. Lately every generation and facelift looks worse and worse. Pretty disappointed. I think it looks good. Although I would probably prefer body color fender flares. The black ones just make for a cavernous wheel well opening look. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:48:31 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it looks good. Although I would probably prefer body color fender flares. The black ones just make for a cavernous wheel well opening look. Seems like black colored fender flares are back 'in' for this current generation of design, almost every manufacturer is adopting it one way or another. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:48:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If these are any where close to what we will see tonight, I am in, not crazy about the turbo lawn mower engine, but I think I may have to bend with the way things are heading. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_TH_011_jpg-3183071.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_TH_08_jpg-3183080.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_TRD_Pro_jpg-3183073.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_TRD_Pro_02_jpg-3183074.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_GRP_003_jpg-3183072.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_Taco_SBS_jpg-3183094.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_Int_02_jpg-3183081.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_int_03_jpg-3183096.JPG Looks decent. Evolutionary and safe. Much Tacoma (tho guess the WB). Anyone cares about Limited (ETA for GenY) or others I can post or should be out soon. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_Ltd_jpg-3183090.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_Ltd_02_jpg-3183097.JPG TH gets OME 2.5 inch Reservoir shocks that others discussed, and at least one OEM fitment is Toyo Open Country A/T III instead of the Goodyear Territory. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/TH_Tire_jpg-3183091.JPG If these are any where close to what we will see tonight, I am in, not crazy about the turbo lawn mower engine, but I think I may have to bend with the way things are heading. Unless you're really racking up the miles on your 4R and LC, why would you bother anytime soon if you're not enthusiastic about the new gen stuff? |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:50:26 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That retro green tho.. Put a faded tan interior in it and I'm back with my buddy in high school. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was in the LC group but between window goes down and that green paint... That retro green tho.. Put a faded tan interior in it and I'm back with my buddy in high school. That's one of my all time favorite automotive color combos.  I'd like to see it on more trucks and 4x4s today. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:57:43 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: On the other hand, you see a rather popular sentiment in 'which 4Runner trim to buy' threads where owners are suggesting to buy the cheapest model and throw upgrades on it rather than buying the higher trims. The Land Cruiser is going to be a bigger financial ask, and given many current 4Runner owners already disparage the existing Limited and it's full time 4WD driveline as wasted money I'm not sure it's a slam dunk division between 'new' owners and 'old. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep. They are separating out the generations. I suspect you will see a lot of the older 4Runner drivers going with the LC, and the new 4Runner going to the newer crowd. I am due for a new ride in about 2 years and it will be between those two with me leaning more LC right now. On the other hand, you see a rather popular sentiment in 'which 4Runner trim to buy' threads where owners are suggesting to buy the cheapest model and throw upgrades on it rather than buying the higher trims. The Land Cruiser is going to be a bigger financial ask, and given many current 4Runner owners already disparage the existing Limited and it's full time 4WD driveline as wasted money I'm not sure it's a slam dunk division between 'new' owners and 'old. A lot of people say not to get the TRD Pros because of the price premium while ripping out the Fox shocks. When I was pricing the new 5th Gens last year the TRD Off Road I spec-ed out was only about $3k less than the Pro, and then the Pro came with other features I wanted (dual climate, heated steering wheel, TRD Exhaust, that paint ), plus I kept the Fox suspension by just swapping in Eibach springs for the additional weight, so when you throw in the cost of a suspension that I didnt have to buy, the Pro actually made the most financial sense. Granted I still tell people all the time to just buy a TRD off road just so you have the e-locker and MTS and then mod from there
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:57:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On the other hand, you see a rather popular sentiment in 'which 4Runner trim to buy' threads where owners are suggesting to buy the cheapest model and throw upgrades on it rather than buying the higher trims. The Land Cruiser is going to be a bigger financial ask, and given many current 4Runner owners already disparage the existing Limited and it's full time 4WD driveline as wasted money I'm not sure it's a slam dunk division between 'new' owners and 'old. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep. They are separating out the generations. I suspect you will see a lot of the older 4Runner drivers going with the LC, and the new 4Runner going to the newer crowd. I am due for a new ride in about 2 years and it will be between those two with me leaning more LC right now. On the other hand, you see a rather popular sentiment in 'which 4Runner trim to buy' threads where owners are suggesting to buy the cheapest model and throw upgrades on it rather than buying the higher trims. The Land Cruiser is going to be a bigger financial ask, and given many current 4Runner owners already disparage the existing Limited and it's full time 4WD driveline as wasted money I'm not sure it's a slam dunk division between 'new' owners and 'old. That is almost exclusively a comparison between the TRD ORP and the TRD Pro. The Pro has a street price about $10k higher than the ORP (sometimes worse with ADMs on the Pro), and you get very little for that money. I sometimes wish I got the Limited specifically for the full time 4x4, but then I see the wheels and the out of place chrome and... 
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:58:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like black colored fender flares are back 'in' for this current generation of design, almost every manufacturer is adopting it one way or another. Yeah. I guess you’re right. Wonder if there will be a colored option. Probably looks better at different angles, a couple of those pics the fenders just disappear into the wheel wells. In person it’s probably fine. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:59:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is almost exclusively a comparison between the TRD ORP and the TRD Pro. The Pro has a street price about $10k higher than the ORP (sometimes worse with ADMs on the Pro), and you get very little for that money. I sometimes wish I got the Limited specifically for the full time 4x4, but then I see the wheels and the out of place chrome and... https://www.tangocharlieapparel.com/cdn/shop/products/HOME-ALONE-1151953.jpg?v=1670959184&width=590 It does happen between the SR5 and Offroad trims as well, although I'd agree that most of the heated discussion comes between those who bought the Pro and those who didn't. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 4:06:52 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If these are any where close to what we will see tonight, I am in, not crazy about the turbo lawn mower engine, but I think I may have to bend with the way things are heading. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_TH_011_jpg-3183071.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_TH_08_jpg-3183080.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_TRD_Pro_jpg-3183073.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_TRD_Pro_02_jpg-3183074.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_GRP_003_jpg-3183072.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_Taco_SBS_jpg-3183094.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_Int_02_jpg-3183081.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_int_03_jpg-3183096.JPG Looks decent. Evolutionary and safe. Much Tacoma (tho guess the WB). Anyone cares about Limited (ETA for GenY) or others I can post or should be out soon. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_Ltd_jpg-3183090.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/4R_Ltd_02_jpg-3183097.JPG TH gets OME 2.5 inch Reservoir shocks that others discussed, and at least one OEM fitment is Toyo Open Country A/T III instead of the Goodyear Territory. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/TH_Tire_jpg-3183091.JPG If these are any where close to what we will see tonight, I am in, not crazy about the turbo lawn mower engine, but I think I may have to bend with the way things are heading. I'm not sure some of you understand what these pics are |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 4:06:58 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like black colored fender flares are back 'in' for this current generation of design, almost every manufacturer is adopting it one way or another. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think it looks good. Although I would probably prefer body color fender flares. The black ones just make for a cavernous wheel well opening look. Seems like black colored fender flares are back 'in' for this current generation of design, almost every manufacturer is adopting it one way or another. I’d argue the trend has been a visual cue to “tart up” mundane/cheaper vehicles in “off-road” trims. We see it on the RAV4 and we see it on Subarus, but we don’t see it on the LC or trickling down from higher end SUV’s. It’s a visual language speaking to a specific audience. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 4:11:31 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d argue the trend has been a visual cue to “tart up” mundane/cheaper vehicles in “off-road” trims. We see it on the RAV4 and we see it on Subarus, but we don’t see it on the LC or trickling down from higher end SUV’s. It’s a visual language speaking to a specific audience. Both the Land Cruiser and GX550 have plastic integrated into their fenders. It may not be as stylized as what we see on the Tacoma and 4Runner, but this sure isn't paint that just happens to look like plastic:  
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Posted: 4/9/2024 4:12:17 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is almost exclusively a comparison between the TRD ORP and the TRD Pro. The Pro has a street price about $10k higher than the ORP (sometimes worse with ADMs on the Pro), and you get very little for that money. I sometimes wish I got the Limited specifically for the full time 4x4, but then I see the wheels and the out of place chrome and... https://www.tangocharlieapparel.com/cdn/shop/products/HOME-ALONE-1151953.jpg?v=1670959184&width=590 Yes, if you're talking about adding $10k markup, then I 100% agree with you. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 4:19:10 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Both the Land Cruiser and GX550 have plastic integrated into their fenders. It may not be as stylized as what we see on the Tacoma and 4Runner, but this sure isn't paint that just happens to look like plastic: https://s3-prod.autonews.com/s3fs-public/styles/width_792/public/LANDCRUISER-MAIN.jpg https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/2023/09/003-2024-lexus-gx550-overtrail-prototype.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd argue the trend has been a visual cue to "tart up" mundane/cheaper vehicles in "off-road" trims. We see it on the RAV4 and we see it on Subarus, but we don't see it on the LC or trickling down from higher end SUV's. It's a visual language speaking to a specific audience. Both the Land Cruiser and GX550 have plastic integrated into their fenders. It may not be as stylized as what we see on the Tacoma and 4Runner, but this sure isn't paint that just happens to look like plastic: https://s3-prod.autonews.com/s3fs-public/styles/width_792/public/LANDCRUISER-MAIN.jpg https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/2023/09/003-2024-lexus-gx550-overtrail-prototype.jpg This round start with the XU50 Highlander then AZ10 NX wheel arch moldings then kinda went wild. Even the UX, but finally that rec'd paint to match. I've never had issues with paint on the GX cladding, but told some of this is "protective". Protective for Toyotas profits I'd buy |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 4:21:22 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Both the Land Cruiser and GX550 have plastic integrated into their fenders. It may not be as stylized as what we see on the Tacoma and 4Runner, but this sure isn't paint that just happens to look like plastic: https://s3-prod.autonews.com/s3fs-public/styles/width_792/public/LANDCRUISER-MAIN.jpg https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/2023/09/003-2024-lexus-gx550-overtrail-prototype.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’d argue the trend has been a visual cue to “tart up” mundane/cheaper vehicles in “off-road” trims. We see it on the RAV4 and we see it on Subarus, but we don’t see it on the LC or trickling down from higher end SUV’s. It’s a visual language speaking to a specific audience. Both the Land Cruiser and GX550 have plastic integrated into their fenders. It may not be as stylized as what we see on the Tacoma and 4Runner, but this sure isn't paint that just happens to look like plastic: https://s3-prod.autonews.com/s3fs-public/styles/width_792/public/LANDCRUISER-MAIN.jpg https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/2023/09/003-2024-lexus-gx550-overtrail-prototype.jpg I would rate those as a refined/classic application. 4Runner’s application is neither. |
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