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This thread proves the SJW cancer is in full force here. Can't you guys fuck off back to your safe spaces instead of pretending to be conservatives? Unfortunately the left has been pretty successful at destroying the boy scouts. This was the final nail in the coffin. View Quote |
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My nephew's troop folded, when they heard rumors that it was going to happen.
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I'm still confused how people think this is an attack on masculinity. Can someone explain how teaching good moral values and outdoor skills equates to boys only, and including females (who already hold many leadership roles in the organization) will somehow taint males? Are girls only good enough for yoga pants and valley girl lingo? Do people think this is leading towards co-ed showers and men wearing lipstick? What is the real concern here? Honestly, no one is making any arguments beyond "Girls have cooties and are icky". I honestly think some people here think boys turn into girls purely by proximity to females. What the fuck happens when our *gasp* boys go to public schools filled with girls who have no business near our man child? Has anyone opposed actually read into whats going on? What valid arguments can anyone make to not include females that doesn't preclude some horrendous parenting by the parents involved? View Quote Was the lady who started girls scouts a bigot, or was she just left with no choice because of pervasive cooties mythology that plagued our retarded ancestors? I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. |
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Ok, that made me laugh
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You know damn well that that's not what they mean by "Be Prepared". People like you are the problem, the cancer, the infection, ailing Scouting. Damn progressives, tearing the whole thing down, or their useful idiots, who willingly go along because it makes them seem "up with the times". Sometimes what is contemporary, what is modern, is what is wrong. Scouting is ideally about turning boys into men capable of leading; producing men who are a part of the workings of their communities and country; about producing moral, God-fearing, upstanding men; and producing men who have a variety of skills of use in the outdoors, especially in the context of the older style of military scouting practiced by men like Burnham and utilized by commanders like Baden-Powell. The shift away from its mission began during the Vietnam Era, when American Boy Scouting started to reject and move away from its martial roots; it's been downhill from there, although it has really accelerated in the last decade or so, with the acceptance of gays, trannies, and now girls, the watering down of the moral component of Scouting, and the watering down of the Eagle Scout and even the merit badges (the heavy involvement of moms can play a role in this at the troop level). Even High Adventure has taken a hit in some councils. My troop's council doesn't even do High Adventure anymore. People like you are helping transform Scouts into something to be shunned, not embraced, and into something that has greatly diminished utility. You are the enemy within, as are a couple of others who have posted so far. It is disgusting and dishonourable. For some, the words "On my honour" must ring rather hollow. Just words from a bygone era to be discarded in our new progressive age. It's downright sickening to observe. View Quote |
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Lets gays into scouts...enrollment numbers go down
Lets trans into scouts...enrollment numbers continue to drop What can we do to fix this? Double down on stupid SJW bullshit...everyone can join boyscouts! |
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Yes, basically this. Nothing against the ladies but this kills all sorts of potential trips. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Well, at least the pedophiles won't all have to be gay now... so there's your silver lining.
New names? Scouts of America 'Merica Scouts Kid Scouts Youth Scouts Yeah... what's the point of Girl Scouts? My son graduated Cubs/Weblos last year. I did about 8 years of cub scouts between my two sons and I can say this much.... the kids in cub scouts are all weird and have awkward social skills. Go ahead and judge me but I hated most of that 8 years of scouts. I think the only enjoyable things were the car races, which was debatable as well. I'm glad to be free of it. Parents were hit or miss most were in it to get rid of their kids for an hour or so. The kids were all behaviorly challenged. None of them ever really took it serious or had any price in what they were doing. |
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Some have mentioned the LDS (Mormons) leaving. Well, the LDS have announced that they will be phasing out the Varsity program from the LDS Youth program, but for the time being they are still keeping the BSA program for LDS boys aged 12-14. My impression is that, over the next 3-5 years, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will begin phasing out the BSA program for the younger boys as well. In short: The LDS Church isn't out of the BSA yet, but it looks like the writing is on the wall and the days of LDS participation are numbered. This is probably a factor in the BSA expanding their recruitment efforts. View Quote |
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I'll tell you if you can explain to the others how male & female scouts can sleep in separate tents on a hike, and there are leaders to stop any fornication... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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When are the 'tards going to make it illegal in America to wear a dress?
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I had a couple kids grow up next to me, they both became eagle scouts and one of them went on to become a U.S. Army Sniper.
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Its pretty baffling why they'd do this. There are numerous examples that caving to pressure from leftist groups does groups like theirs no good, including, I believe, their own caving to various pressures.
The timing is pretty bad, too. IMO, we're at the beginning of a time when things like normalcy and gender roles are going to be coming back, not receding, as SJWism is on the decline and increasingly an object of ridicule. They should have tried to get out in front of that if they need people, rather than placating leftist douchebags. |
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It was inevitable. BSA has been going downhill ever since they moved away from the paramilitary culture. Just my opinion. http://cdn3.volusion.com/qpggq.ugjpw/v/vspfiles/photos/3789-2.jpg https://www.linktv.org/sites/kl/files/atoms/article_atoms/www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/images/scouts9.jpg https://www.kcet.org/sites/kl/files/atoms/article_atoms/www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/images/scouts15.jpg View Quote |
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They fucking missed the mark on this one! IMHO just start a new program for those that want to combine the sexes and leave the Boy Scouts intact. Maybe call the new division
the Youth Scouts and let the parents and kids decide. How many boys in Girl Scouts? |
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I'll tell you if you can explain to the others how male & female scouts can sleep in separate tents on a hike, and there are leaders to stop any fornication... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I'm still confused how people think this is an attack on masculinity. Can someone explain how teaching good moral values and outdoor skills equates to boys only, and including females (who already hold many leadership roles in the organization) will somehow taint males? Are girls only good enough for yoga pants and valley girl lingo? Do people think this is leading towards co-ed showers and men wearing lipstick? What is the real concern here? Honestly, no one is making any arguments beyond "Girls have cooties and are icky". I honestly think some people here think boys turn into girls purely by proximity to females. What the fuck happens when our *gasp* boys go to public schools filled with girls who have no business near our man child? Has anyone opposed actually read into whats going on? What valid arguments can anyone make to not include females that doesn't preclude some horrendous parenting by the parents involved? View Quote The inclusion of women always feminizes an institution as you will now have to cater to their interests (yes, boys and girls are different). You cite the feminized public schools as an example of success? They are overwhelmingly producing man children, not men. |
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I'm still confused how people think this is an attack on masculinity. Can someone explain how teaching good moral values and outdoor skills equates to boys only, and including females (who already hold many leadership roles in the organization) will somehow taint males? Are girls only good enough for yoga pants and valley girl lingo? Do people think this is leading towards co-ed showers and men wearing lipstick? What is the real concern here? Honestly, no one is making any arguments beyond "Girls have cooties and are icky". I honestly think some people here think boys turn into girls purely by proximity to females. What the fuck happens when our *gasp* boys go to public schools filled with girls who have no business near our man child? Has anyone opposed actually read into whats going on? What valid arguments can anyone make to not include females that doesn't preclude some horrendous parenting by the parents involved? View Quote The problem is that in the USA of 2017 A.D., masculinity is under serious attack, and when you invite girls into Cub Scout Packs and Boy Scout Troops then you are inviting in a whole host of female-dominated SJW "equality" issues that exacerbates that attack. The biggest issues are these: 1. Moms have problems letting boys be boys. What men understand as "youthful exuberance," moms see as "chaos, out-of-control behavior, etc." Boys are active, boys like to be loud and run around, and most of all boys learn by trying, failing, trying, failing, trying, getting it right. That is what makes American culture so innovative and original. Females, by and large, tend to be more orderly and follow-the-manual-precisely. So bringing moms to help run meetings, having moms on campouts, etc. cuts down on the "let boys be boys" time. We're seeing this in government schools (as another poster mentioned above) and it is BAD for our society. 2. Standards WILL weaken, for two reasons. First, women generally are more about "did everyone feel included" than "did we get results." Once enough Little Suzies fall out of the Mile Swim test, their moms will petition to have it made into a Half-Mile Swim because "a mile is just too hard, it's not faaaaiiiiirrrrr." Woe unto the Scoutmaster who tells Suzie's Smother-Mother, "then go back to Girl Scouts. You knew it was a Mile Swim when you joined." Same with the 50-miler patch. Second, the "non-legacy families" that BSA is so desperate to recruit (these are families with no prior history in Scouting and thus no prioer experience with it) won't completely understand why some standards are what they are. So, with their "the customer is always right" mentality, they will start petitioning for change at some point. "Why does the Scout Law say 'reverent?' That's pushing religion on us. Change it!" Or, "Why doesn't the Scout Oath say anything about diversity, inclusivity, or social justice? Change it!" And BSA will, which will doom it to die. 3. Moms do not know how to teach boys to be men. They just don't. They don't understand what it is to be a man any more than men understand how it feels to menstruate or be pregnant. We are seeing the results of single moms raising boys in our society today, and it is BAD. Moms (especially today) treat boys like defective girls instead of letting them be boys. Bringing girls into Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts will ruin Scouting's good effects on boys. NOTE: Do not point at Venture Scouting as "well, it can be done successfully." Venture Scouting is completely different from Cub Scouting and Boy Scouting. They are older, they are focused on high adventure instead of rank and merit badge achievement, they have a very different mission. |
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The problem is not having boys and girls work side by side on Scout stuff. And despite the humorous comments, the problem is not boys and girls sneaking off to fuck during campouts. The problem is that in the USA of 2017 A.D., masculinity is under serious attack, and when you invite girls into Cub Scout Packs and Boy Scout Troops then you are inviting in a whole host of female-dominated SJW "equality" issues that exacerbates that attack. The biggest issues are these: 1. Moms have problems letting boys be boys. What men understand as "youthful exuberance," moms see as "chaos, out-of-control behavior, etc." Boys are active, boys like to be loud and run around, and most of all boys learn by trying, failing, trying, failing, trying, getting it right. That is what makes American culture so innovative and original. Females, by and large, tend to be more orderly and follow-the-manual-precisely. So bringing moms to help run meetings, having moms on campouts, etc. cuts down on the "let boys be boys" time. We're seeing this in government schools (as another poster mentioned above) and it is BAD for our society. 2. Standards WILL weaken, for two reasons. First, women generally are more about "did everyone feel included" than "did we get results." Once enough Little Suzies fall out of the Mile Swim test, their moms will petition to have it made into a Half-Mile Swim because "a mile is just too hard, it's not faaaaiiiiirrrrr." Woe unto the Scoutmaster who tells Suzie's Smother-Mother, "then go back to Girl Scouts. You knew it was a Mile Swim when you joined." Same with the 50-miler patch. Second, the "non-legacy families" that BSA is so desperate to recruit (these are families with no prior history in Scouting and thus no prioer experience with it) won't completely understand why some standards are what they are. So, with their "the customer is always right" mentality, they will start petitioning for change at some point. "Why does the Scout Law say 'reverent?' That's pushing religion on us. Change it!" Or, "Why doesn't the Scout Oath say anything about diversity, inclusivity, or social justice? Change it!" And BSA will, which will doom it to die. 3. Moms do not know how to teach boys to be men. They just don't. They don't understand what it is to be a man any more than men understand how it feels to menstruate or be pregnant. We are seeing the results of single moms raising boys in our society today, and it is BAD. Moms (especially today) treat boys like defective girls instead of letting them be boys. Bringing girls into Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts will ruin Scouting's good effects on boys. NOTE: Do not point at Venture Scouting as "well, it can be done successfully." Venture Scouting is completely different from Cub Scouting and Boy Scouting. They are older, they are focused on high adventure instead of rank and merit badge achievement, they have a very different mission. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm still confused how people think this is an attack on masculinity. Can someone explain how teaching good moral values and outdoor skills equates to boys only, and including females (who already hold many leadership roles in the organization) will somehow taint males? Are girls only good enough for yoga pants and valley girl lingo? Do people think this is leading towards co-ed showers and men wearing lipstick? What is the real concern here? Honestly, no one is making any arguments beyond "Girls have cooties and are icky". I honestly think some people here think boys turn into girls purely by proximity to females. What the fuck happens when our *gasp* boys go to public schools filled with girls who have no business near our man child? Has anyone opposed actually read into whats going on? What valid arguments can anyone make to not include females that doesn't preclude some horrendous parenting by the parents involved? The problem is that in the USA of 2017 A.D., masculinity is under serious attack, and when you invite girls into Cub Scout Packs and Boy Scout Troops then you are inviting in a whole host of female-dominated SJW "equality" issues that exacerbates that attack. The biggest issues are these: 1. Moms have problems letting boys be boys. What men understand as "youthful exuberance," moms see as "chaos, out-of-control behavior, etc." Boys are active, boys like to be loud and run around, and most of all boys learn by trying, failing, trying, failing, trying, getting it right. That is what makes American culture so innovative and original. Females, by and large, tend to be more orderly and follow-the-manual-precisely. So bringing moms to help run meetings, having moms on campouts, etc. cuts down on the "let boys be boys" time. We're seeing this in government schools (as another poster mentioned above) and it is BAD for our society. 2. Standards WILL weaken, for two reasons. First, women generally are more about "did everyone feel included" than "did we get results." Once enough Little Suzies fall out of the Mile Swim test, their moms will petition to have it made into a Half-Mile Swim because "a mile is just too hard, it's not faaaaiiiiirrrrr." Woe unto the Scoutmaster who tells Suzie's Smother-Mother, "then go back to Girl Scouts. You knew it was a Mile Swim when you joined." Same with the 50-miler patch. Second, the "non-legacy families" that BSA is so desperate to recruit (these are families with no prior history in Scouting and thus no prioer experience with it) won't completely understand why some standards are what they are. So, with their "the customer is always right" mentality, they will start petitioning for change at some point. "Why does the Scout Law say 'reverent?' That's pushing religion on us. Change it!" Or, "Why doesn't the Scout Oath say anything about diversity, inclusivity, or social justice? Change it!" And BSA will, which will doom it to die. 3. Moms do not know how to teach boys to be men. They just don't. They don't understand what it is to be a man any more than men understand how it feels to menstruate or be pregnant. We are seeing the results of single moms raising boys in our society today, and it is BAD. Moms (especially today) treat boys like defective girls instead of letting them be boys. Bringing girls into Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts will ruin Scouting's good effects on boys. NOTE: Do not point at Venture Scouting as "well, it can be done successfully." Venture Scouting is completely different from Cub Scouting and Boy Scouting. They are older, they are focused on high adventure instead of rank and merit badge achievement, they have a very different mission. |
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Whatever reason would the progressive left have for working for years to destroy this? http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/wgvu/files/201509/boy_scout_salute.jpg View Quote |
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Too late. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/11/15/2F47E99A00000578-3356084-image-a-6_1449847692374.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just wait until some 50 year old dude self identifies as a 12 year old girl. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/11/15/2F47E99A00000578-3356084-image-a-6_1449847692374.jpg |
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There is a program already that exist for girls and its called the girls scouts.
Not sure what the real purposes is but I don't expect to see any females in the troop i'm in |
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Who will be the first to earn her BJ badge? https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ShowyIncredibleGrayling-max-1mb.gif View Quote |
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This is just part of the wider attack on our culture. The Left has always thought of Boy Scouts as a paramilitary organization that promotes/promoted the values they find abhorrent and racist.
I see it as the same as schools doing away with Halloween (now the Autumn festival) and Christmas (now the Winter festival) because of Muslims and others. If they really cared about programming, they would focus on making the Girl Scouts a more viable organization, instead of feminizing the Boys Scouts (and that is exactly what will happen). Wonder how long the shooting sports will be in the Boy Scouts once the women start whining about safety and not wanting to be seen as hostile? |
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Women have been in scout leadership right from the start, my grandmother was during WW2 whilst my grandfather was in service. View Quote Edit: spelling |
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Women have been in scout leadership right from the start, my grandmother was during WW2 whilst my grandfather was in service. View Quote do you understand the difference between a married woman of your grandmother's era and a "strong single mother who has no need for a man" today? |
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The problem is not having boys and girls work side by side on Scout stuff. And despite the humorous comments, the problem is not boys and girls sneaking off to fuck during campouts. The problem is that in the USA of 2017 A.D., masculinity is under serious attack, and when you invite girls into Cub Scout Packs and Boy Scout Troops then you are inviting in a whole host of female-dominated SJW "equality" issues that exacerbates that attack. The biggest issues are these: 1. Moms have problems letting boys be boys. What men understand as "youthful exuberance," moms see as "chaos, out-of-control behavior, etc." Boys are active, boys like to be loud and run around, and most of all boys learn by trying, failing, trying, failing, trying, getting it right. That is what makes American culture so innovative and original. Females, by and large, tend to be more orderly and follow-the-manual-precisely. So bringing moms to help run meetings, having moms on campouts, etc. cuts down on the "let boys be boys" time. We're seeing this in government schools (as another poster mentioned above) and it is BAD for our society. 2. Standards WILL weaken, for two reasons. First, women generally are more about "did everyone feel included" than "did we get results." Once enough Little Suzies fall out of the Mile Swim test, their moms will petition to have it made into a Half-Mile Swim because "a mile is just too hard, it's not faaaaiiiiirrrrr." Woe unto the Scoutmaster who tells Suzie's Smother-Mother, "then go back to Girl Scouts. You knew it was a Mile Swim when you joined." Same with the 50-miler patch. Second, the "non-legacy families" that BSA is so desperate to recruit (these are families with no prior history in Scouting and thus no prioer experience with it) won't completely understand why some standards are what they are. So, with their "the customer is always right" mentality, they will start petitioning for change at some point. "Why does the Scout Law say 'reverent?' That's pushing religion on us. Change it!" Or, "Why doesn't the Scout Oath say anything about diversity, inclusivity, or social justice? Change it!" And BSA will, which will doom it to die. 3. Moms do not know how to teach boys to be men. They just don't. They don't understand what it is to be a man any more than men understand how it feels to menstruate or be pregnant. We are seeing the results of single moms raising boys in our society today, and it is BAD. Moms (especially today) treat boys like defective girls instead of letting them be boys. Bringing girls into Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts will ruin Scouting's good effects on boys. NOTE: Do not point at Venture Scouting as "well, it can be done successfully." Venture Scouting is completely different from Cub Scouting and Boy Scouting. They are older, they are focused on high adventure instead of rank and merit badge achievement, they have a very different mission. View Quote Also, for those that still don't get it, Cub Scouts are not the same thing as Boy Scouts. |
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To me, Scouting died when sometime in my adult years I picked up a copy of Boy's Life and didn't find one advertisement for firearms. View Quote https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/order-of-the-arrow-centennial-edition/ https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/boy-scouts-of-america-centennial-edition/ https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/golden-boy-eagle-scout-tribute-edition/ |
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Popcorn selling just started up. Talk about a bad time to do this. Lots of kids use the sales of it to pay for camp equip, fees,uniform stuff, travel costs. Ive heard from others who are out selling now that they are getting lots of shit for this and very little sales/donations.
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Why did BSA keep girls out in the past? Were they all just a bunch of knuckle dragging, closeted gays who thought girls had cooties? Was the lady who started girls scouts a bigot, or was she just left with no choice because of pervasive cooties mythology that plagued our retarded ancestors? I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. View Quote |
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Can anyone come up with a good reason to not include females that doesn't include fear of transgenders or cooties? Half our den leaders in Cub scouts are moms. No it's not. That is how the Cub Scout program was designed in the 1930s with the expectation that Dens would be led by mothers and fathers would be the Cubmaster. Usually Cub programs met after school (when most men were working) so mom's could run the activities (remember these boys were 9 and under). Webelos den's tend to meet at night and have male leaders, they are the transition phase from Cub Scouts to Boy Scouts. |
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LOL at the "but the dens/troops will be segregated and boys and girls will not mix." That will last like a year, then BSA will do full on inclusion. The first lawsuit, and they will cave.
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Women have been in scout leadership right from the start, my grandmother was during WW2 whilst my grandfather was in service. View Quote As a matter of record it wasn't until 1988* that the BSA voted to allow women to be Scoutmasters and hold other leadership positions, till that time they were more akin to 'support staff' not leaders. I remember the reporting on that vote, it was a big deal at the time and caused even more controversy than this vote. * http://www.nytimes.com/1988/02/14/us/boy-scouts-to-allow-women-to-be-leaders.html |
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Can anyone thing of problems at jamboree's, camp outs and week long stays at camp ?....holy shit talking about unintended consequences !!!
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Sorry, bullshit. Let kids interact with each other. Their gender identity will, for the most part, take care of itself. Ever heard of a "Tomboy" They tend to take care of themselves, and tend to turn into out·ra·geous·ly hot chicks that you could only dream of. Don't be a fag, let the chicks in. View Quote So how many years have you spent as a Boy or Girl Scout volunteer? |
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Can anyone come up with a good reason to not include females that doesn't include fear of transgenders or cooties? Half our den leaders in Cub scouts are moms. Regarding World War II, I was not aware that there were female Scoutmasters during the war. I knew WWII-era Scouts and Scoutmasters, and the Scoutmasters were usually either very young (men who hadn't been drafted yet) or 4Fs or wounded vets who had been discharged. |
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Well, at least I can say that I earned my eagle when it still might have meant something. Whose with me on the notion that they will lower the standards? I haven't read the whole thread but most of the time around the campfire without the leaders present the whole conversation revolved around girls, boobs, and what we wanted to do with them. As another on this page already mentioned, the woods can be a vast place for all sorts of grab ass. Not sure why the Boy Scouts have to pick up the Girls Scouts failure on this. If they wanted something with the prestige of the rank of Eagle they had the opportunity and missed it. View Quote |
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