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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:28:28 AM EST
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How did I miss this?
 
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:29:19 AM EST
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How did I miss this? |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:29:49 AM EST
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That. It happens a lot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Long time members are getting the hammer because at a certain point I think they believe their popularity or the prolific nature of their posting habits somehow exempts them from the CoC. 
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:30:31 AM EST
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The only changes I've seen are more threads like this bitching about the changes.  Americans find cats cute, which is why I have chosen my screen name. Soon you will bow to Mohammad Marx 
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:30:40 AM EST
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Maybe you were recovering from last night's ARF shenanigans? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How did I miss this? I saw that after the fact. Went dumpster diving. Some things can't be unseen. 
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:33:32 AM EST
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I was working popo. I saw that after the fact. Went dumpster diving. Some things can't be unseen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How did I miss this? I saw that after the fact. Went dumpster diving. Some things can't be unseen. 
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:35:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that was me I reported you because you were posting retarded, factually incorrect drivel about bumpstocks not being classified as machine guns, potentially fucking other users. the above is factually not true. I did not say 'bumpstocks not being classified as machine guns'  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:38:05 AM EST
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Just when I thought the drama and hyperbole about the site couldn't reach a more fever pitch - BOOM! This thread appears. I now feel much dumber than when I woke up this morning.  ETA: I'm not really sure what that is, but it seems like it would fit in this thread. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:42:18 AM EST
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Quite the astute observation. Unless...unless you and I are both share blue trolls and we're just gas lighting the more keen/observant ARFCOM members into believing that there's really no widespread conspiracy to turn the forum into a sister forum to DU Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only changes I've seen are more threads like this bitching about the changes. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:43:51 AM EST
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I guess I am literally Stalin now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:43:52 AM EST
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Lol. You DO know who made ATF change that classification, yes? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: go start a new thread about how classifying a part as a machine gun to facilitate its banning is really a good thing ... I'll argue with you there. why should I bother, except so you would report me again? |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:45:13 AM EST
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... Same rules
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:46:27 AM EST
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Quite the astute observation. Unless...unless you and I are both share blue trolls and we're just gas lighting the more keen/observant ARFCOM members into believing that there's really no widespread conspiracy to turn the forum into a sister forum to DU Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only changes I've seen are more threads like this bitching about the changes. 
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:50:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Left" and "Socialism" are not the same things. History has given us several examples of right-wing socialism. socialism, communism, big govt control, are on the left dems like to toss around terms like “right wing nazi” because it sounds scary nazis were left wing socialists . . |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:04:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. You DO know who made ATF change that classification, yes? did you see that the poster did not truthfully state what happened? is a lightning link considered a machinegun? yes. can I shoot you with just a lightning link? no is a bumpstock considered a machinegun? yes. can I shoot you with just a bumpstock? no 
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:09:29 PM EST
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Just when I thought the drama and hyperbole about the site couldn't reach a more fever pitch - BOOM! This thread appears. I now feel much dumber than when I woke up this morning.
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:12:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I am literally Stalin now.
 The Death of Stalin(2017)-Kruschev and ministers arrive on the scene There is always hope though. 
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:18:00 PM EST
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for clarity. the above is factually not true. I did not say 'bumpstocks not being classified as machine guns' https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2917/nt007_2019-08-20_11_47_09_jpg-1061087.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: that was me I reported you because you were posting retarded, factually incorrect drivel about bumpstocks not being classified as machine guns, potentially fucking other users. the above is factually not true. I did not say 'bumpstocks not being classified as machine guns' https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2917/nt007_2019-08-20_11_47_09_jpg-1061087.JPG
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:20:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're still doing it (dancing around obvious facts to act like you are defending your position). You can't quote statute to say "see, bump stocks aren't guns" to claim Trump didn't ban firearms. Might as well claim Congress never banned MGs in the first place because "NFA/FOPA aren't constitutional" 
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:20:18 PM EST
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nope socialism, communism, big govt control, are on the left dems like to toss around terms like “right wing nazi” because it sounds scary nazis were left wing socialists . . Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: "Left" and "Socialism" are not the same things. History has given us several examples of right-wing socialism. socialism, communism, big govt control, are on the left dems like to toss around terms like “right wing nazi” because it sounds scary nazis were left wing socialists . .
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:21:23 PM EST
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look above. did you see that the poster did not truthfully state what happened? is a lightning link considered a machinegun? yes. can I shoot you with just a lightning link? no is a bumpstock considered a machinegun? yes. can I shoot you with just a bumpstock? no Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Lol. You DO know who made ATF change that classification, yes? did you see that the poster did not truthfully state what happened? is a lightning link considered a machinegun? yes. can I shoot you with just a lightning link? no is a bumpstock considered a machinegun? yes. can I shoot you with just a bumpstock? no |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:22:28 PM EST
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But, he is technically correct. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/technically-correct-196442.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You're still doing it (dancing around obvious facts to act like you are defending your position). You can't quote statute to say "see, bump stocks aren't guns" to claim Trump didn't ban firearms. Might as well claim Congress never banned MGs in the first place because "NFA/FOPA aren't constitutional" https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/technically-correct-196442.jpg
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:32:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're still doing it (dancing around obvious facts to act like you are defending your position). You can't quote statute to say "see, bump stocks aren't guns" to claim Trump didn't ban firearms. Might as well claim Congress never banned MGs in the first place because "NFA/FOPA aren't constitutional" Quote HistoryQuoted: You're still doing it (dancing around obvious facts to act like you are defending your position). You can't quote statute to say "see, bump stocks aren't guns" to claim Trump didn't ban firearms. Might as well claim Congress never banned MGs in the first place because "NFA/FOPA aren't constitutional"
you anti Trump / never trumpers / what ever term aren't satisfied unless you get to make Trump look bad, no matter if your information is true or factual, or not Machine gun. Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machine gun, and any combination of parts from which a machine gun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person. For purposes of this definition, the term "automatically" as it modifies "shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot," means functioning as the result of a self-acting or self-regulating mechanism that allows the firing of multiple rounds through a single function of the trigger; and "single function of the trigger" means a single pull of the trigger and analogous motions. The term "machine gun" includes a bump-stock-type device, i.e., a device that allows a semi-automatic firearm to shoot more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger by harnessing the recoil energy of the semi-automatic firearm to which it is affixed so that the trigger resets and continues firing without additional physical manipulation of the trigger by the shooter. that is the official code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! some people here will twist anything, and everything, around, just to justify their perception and position |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:35:59 PM EST
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you anti Trump / never trumpers / what ever term aren't satisfied unless you get to make Trump look bad, no matter if your information is true or factual, or not https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=70394195a3edf623eba7ce77a1bddff1&node=27:3.0.1.2.4&rgn=div5#se27.3.479_111 that is the official code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! some people here will twist anything, and everything, around, just to justify their perception and position 
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:36:37 PM EST
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you anti Trump / never trumpers / what ever term aren't satisfied unless you get to make Trump look bad, no matter if your information is true or factual, or not https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=70394195a3edf623eba7ce77a1bddff1&node=27:3.0.1.2.4&rgn=div5#se27.3.479_111 that is the official code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! some people here will twist anything, and everything, around, just to justify their perception and position Would you agree with me that directing an agency to outlaw bumpstocks would GENERALLY fall into the category of what people might call "gun control"? |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:37:21 PM EST
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you anti Trump / never trumpers / what ever term aren't satisfied unless you get to make Trump look bad, no matter if your information is true or factual, or not https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=70394195a3edf623eba7ce77a1bddff1&node=27:3.0.1.2.4&rgn=div5#se27.3.479_111 that is the official code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! some people here will twist anything, and everything, around, just to justify their perception and position Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You're still doing it (dancing around obvious facts to act like you are defending your position). You can't quote statute to say "see, bump stocks aren't guns" to claim Trump didn't ban firearms. Might as well claim Congress never banned MGs in the first place because "NFA/FOPA aren't constitutional"
you anti Trump / never trumpers / what ever term aren't satisfied unless you get to make Trump look bad, no matter if your information is true or factual, or not Machine gun. Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machine gun, and any combination of parts from which a machine gun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person. For purposes of this definition, the term "automatically" as it modifies "shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot," means functioning as the result of a self-acting or self-regulating mechanism that allows the firing of multiple rounds through a single function of the trigger; and "single function of the trigger" means a single pull of the trigger and analogous motions. The term "machine gun" includes a bump-stock-type device, i.e., a device that allows a semi-automatic firearm to shoot more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger by harnessing the recoil energy of the semi-automatic firearm to which it is affixed so that the trigger resets and continues firing without additional physical manipulation of the trigger by the shooter. that is the official code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! some people here will twist anything, and everything, around, just to justify their perception and position You would never do that YOUR pont in this argument is that banning anything is ok, as long as you classify it as a MG first. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:41:02 PM EST
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you anti Trump / never trumpers / what ever term aren't satisfied unless you get to make Trump look bad, no matter if your information is true or factual, or not https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=70394195a3edf623eba7ce77a1bddff1&node=27:3.0.1.2.4&rgn=div5#se27.3.479_111 that is the official code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! some people here will twist anything, and everything, around, just to justify their perception and position Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You're still doing it (dancing around obvious facts to act like you are defending your position). You can't quote statute to say "see, bump stocks aren't guns" to claim Trump didn't ban firearms. Might as well claim Congress never banned MGs in the first place because "NFA/FOPA aren't constitutional"
you anti Trump / never trumpers / what ever term aren't satisfied unless you get to make Trump look bad, no matter if your information is true or factual, or not Machine gun. Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machine gun, and any combination of parts from which a machine gun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person. For purposes of this definition, the term "automatically" as it modifies "shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot," means functioning as the result of a self-acting or self-regulating mechanism that allows the firing of multiple rounds through a single function of the trigger; and "single function of the trigger" means a single pull of the trigger and analogous motions. The term "machine gun" includes a bump-stock-type device, i.e., a device that allows a semi-automatic firearm to shoot more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger by harnessing the recoil energy of the semi-automatic firearm to which it is affixed so that the trigger resets and continues firing without additional physical manipulation of the trigger by the shooter. that is the official code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! some people here will twist anything, and everything, around, just to justify their perception and position So do you also breathlessly remind everyone that the 94AWB didn't "technically" ban any guns as well? Again, what is the point of making the observation except as a rhetorical fallacy to deflect from criticism of Trump's gun control & gun banning? |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:42:05 PM EST
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:42:15 PM EST
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Holy shit guys it's time to stop acting like children.
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:43:17 PM EST
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Holy shit guys it's time to stop acting like children. 
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:45:16 PM EST
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But, he is technically correct. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/technically-correct-196442.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You're still doing it (dancing around obvious facts to act like you are defending your position). You can't quote statute to say "see, bump stocks aren't guns" to claim Trump didn't ban firearms. Might as well claim Congress never banned MGs in the first place because "NFA/FOPA aren't constitutional" https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/technically-correct-196442.jpg
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:45:29 PM EST
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This thread:
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:46:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with you that technically Trump has not banned any guns (or directed any federal agency to ban guns). That is a factually correct statement. Would you agree with me that directing an agency to outlaw bumpstocks would GENERALLY fall into the category of what people might call "gun control"? I have not said that, and I have stated before that I did not support a bumpstock ban. yes it is a form of gun control. but the original rebuttal was with a poster that said Trump banned 500k-1mil guns. while there are devices classified as machineguns, like lightning links, dias, bumpstocks, you can not shoot someone with just that device, so not a gun = firearm |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:47:22 PM EST
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I agree with you that technically Trump has not banned any guns (or directed any federal agency to ban guns). That is a factually correct statement. Would you agree with me that directing an agency to outlaw bumpstocks would GENERALLY fall into the category of what people might call "gun control"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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you anti Trump / never trumpers / what ever term aren't satisfied unless you get to make Trump look bad, no matter if your information is true or factual, or not https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=70394195a3edf623eba7ce77a1bddff1&node=27:3.0.1.2.4&rgn=div5#se27.3.479_111 that is the official code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! some people here will twist anything, and everything, around, just to justify their perception and position Would you agree with me that directing an agency to outlaw bumpstocks would GENERALLY fall into the category of what people might call "gun control"? Even going by order of operations, Trump made the things into MGs by regulation, at which point they were then banned per FOPA/NFA. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:49:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI *did* tell him to start a new thread to argue where we could collectively ignore him.
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:49:28 PM EST
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Holy shit guys it's time to stop acting like children. It's kind of what brought me here. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:49:45 PM EST
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Futurama went to shit after the first three seasons Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: You're still doing it (dancing around obvious facts to act like you are defending your position). You can't quote statute to say "see, bump stocks aren't guns" to claim Trump didn't ban firearms. Might as well claim Congress never banned MGs in the first place because "NFA/FOPA aren't constitutional" https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/technically-correct-196442.jpg |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:52:39 PM EST
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while some people involved in the management of this site have said I supported a bumpstock ban, I have not said that, and I have stated before that I did not support a bumpstock ban. yes it is a form of gun control. but the original rebuttal was with a poster that said Trump banned 500k-1mil guns. while there are devices classified as machineguns, like lightning links, dias, bumpstocks, you can not shoot someone with just that device, so not a gun = firearm Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I agree with you that technically Trump has not banned any guns (or directed any federal agency to ban guns). That is a factually correct statement. Would you agree with me that directing an agency to outlaw bumpstocks would GENERALLY fall into the category of what people might call "gun control"? I have not said that, and I have stated before that I did not support a bumpstock ban. yes it is a form of gun control. but the original rebuttal was with a poster that said Trump banned 500k-1mil guns. while there are devices classified as machineguns, like lightning links, dias, bumpstocks, you can not shoot someone with just that device, so not a gun = firearm Hope you aren't anyone's lawyer. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:55:03 PM EST
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The only changes I've seen are more threads like this bitching about the changes. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:05:17 PM EST
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nope socialism, communism, big govt control, are on the left dems like to toss around terms like “right wing nazi” because it sounds scary nazis were left wing socialists . . Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: "Left" and "Socialism" are not the same things. History has given us several examples of right-wing socialism. socialism, communism, big govt control, are on the left dems like to toss around terms like “right wing nazi” because it sounds scary nazis were left wing socialists . . https://www.politicalcompass.org/test |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:17:33 PM EST
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So you are claiming a machine-GUN is not a gun, and LLs, DIAS, sear-packs, receivers, silencer tubes, and bump stocks aren't considered firearms in a court of law? Hope you aren't anyone's lawyer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: I agree with you that technically Trump has not banned any guns (or directed any federal agency to ban guns). That is a factually correct statement. Would you agree with me that directing an agency to outlaw bumpstocks would GENERALLY fall into the category of what people might call "gun control"? I have not said that, and I have stated before that I did not support a bumpstock ban. yes it is a form of gun control. but the original rebuttal was with a poster that said Trump banned 500k-1mil guns. while there are devices classified as machineguns, like lightning links, dias, bumpstocks, you can not shoot someone with just that device, so not a gun = firearm Hope you aren't anyone's lawyer. You will never get a straight answer. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:24:07 PM EST
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Yep, and happily both of you have been an exception to that. So far. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Long time members are getting the hammer because at a certain point I think they believe their popularity or the prolific nature of their posting habits somehow exempts them from the CoC. 
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:24:10 PM EST
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:30:59 PM EST
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:32:08 PM EST
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And BTW, OP - this is for you:
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:34:12 PM EST
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:36:57 PM EST
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We have been through this before. The early days were free wheeling and fun (Think back to Imbroglio, Eric (the legend) Hun and so many more. Then the crack down. This is just the next step in that evolution.
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:37:18 PM EST
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We had a whole thread of these a while back... I think I still got mine somewhere... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138374/2018-10-03_17-26-19-691870.png https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138374/download-692848.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
We had a whole thread of these a while back... I think I still got mine somewhere... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138374/2018-10-03_17-26-19-691870.png https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138374/download-692848.png This is mine  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:50:29 PM EST
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:51:56 PM EST
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