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Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:15:00 AM EDT
[#1]
Anybody know what length BBL on Val Kilmers AR?

Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:51:31 AM EDT
[#2]
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 5:25:26 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks, I wouldnt mind owning a clone of that weapon... Also that was one of my favorite looking FNs , I like the shorter barrel look on it.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 9:54:34 AM EDT
[#4]
1 million dollars in $1.00 (one million bills) would weigh 1.1 tons

1 million dollars in $20.00 (50,000 bills) would weigh around 550 pounds.

1 million in $100.00 (10,000 bills) would weigh about 100 pounds.

Therefore, if they were to steal what? 12 million? and if all the money was in $100.00 bills, they would be carrying out approximately 1,200 pounds / 5 people = 240 pounds per person per duffle bag. Not likely.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 1:58:32 PM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 3:29:21 PM EDT
[#6]
My only regret about the movie "Heat" is that I can't see it again for the first time.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 10:20:40 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
1 million dollars in $1.00 (one million bills) would weigh 1.1 tons

1 million dollars in $20.00 (50,000 bills) would weigh around 550 pounds.

1 million in $100.00 (10,000 bills) would weigh about 100 pounds.

Therefore, if they were to steal what? 12 million? and if all the money was in $100.00 bills, they would be carrying out approximately 1,200 pounds / 5 people = 240 pounds per person per duffle bag. Not likely.



Where are you getting those figures?
Link Posted: 4/30/2006 10:26:03 AM EDT
[#8]
Oh man a dedicated sticky thread for Heat? I've found a home! I've never paid to join an online forum but now...this. Holy crap!

Somebody asked why Neil didn't just hire out the hit on Waingro. Honor man, Neil was all about honor and discipline.  He was getting away with the girl and the cash, Van Zandt was dead, he'd done all he could do.  Then he gets the call on Waingro's location and you see him thinking about just letting it go and getting out.  Watch De Niro work that scene. No way he wasn't going to turn the car around. That's what Vincent (Pacino) liked so much about him.

I also love the scene hospital waiting room where Vincent gets the call that Neil is still in town. His wife cuts him loose and he just flies down that big stairway truly happy. A hunter through and through.

Ryoushi's Blues
Link Posted: 5/1/2006 1:32:18 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
1 million dollars in $1.00 (one million bills) would weigh 1.1 tons

1 million dollars in $20.00 (50,000 bills) would weigh around 550 pounds.

1 million in $100.00 (10,000 bills) would weigh about 100 pounds.

Therefore, if they were to steal what? 12 million? and if all the money was in $100.00 bills, they would be carrying out approximately 1,200 pounds / 5 people = 240 pounds per person per duffle bag. Not likely.



I dont know about you but if I had a chance to grab 240 pounds of 100$ bills I think I could manage.
Link Posted: 5/1/2006 2:12:49 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
1 million dollars in $1.00 (one million bills) would weigh 1.1 tons

1 million dollars in $20.00 (50,000 bills) would weigh around 550 pounds.

1 million in $100.00 (10,000 bills) would weigh about 100 pounds.

Therefore, if they were to steal what? 12 million? and if all the money was in $100.00 bills, they would be carrying out approximately 1,200 pounds / 5 people = 240 pounds per person per duffle bag. Not likely.



Where are you getting those figures?



US Treasury

The approximate weight of a currency note, regardless of denomination is (1) one gram.

There are 454 grams in one (1) U.S. pound, therefore, there should be 454 notes in (1) one pound(Avoirdupois system).

The rest is basic math, mixed with a little round-up/down to even things out and voila!


Link Posted: 5/1/2006 6:32:50 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
1 million dollars in $1.00 (one million bills) would weigh 1.1 tons

1 million dollars in $20.00 (50,000 bills) would weigh around 550 pounds.

1 million in $100.00 (10,000 bills) would weigh about 100 pounds.

Therefore, if they were to steal what? 12 million? and if all the money was in $100.00 bills, they would be carrying out approximately 1,200 pounds / 5 people = 240 pounds per person per duffle bag. Not likely.



Where are you getting those figures?



US Treasury

The approximate weight of a currency note, regardless of denomination is (1) one gram.

There are 454 grams in one (1) U.S. pound, therefore, there should be 454 notes in (1) one pound(Avoirdupois system).

The rest is basic math, mixed with a little round-up/down to even things out and voila!




using those figures

454 bills per pound  X $100 = $45,400.00.  $12,000,000/45,400 = 264 lbs.   264 lbs./ 5 bank robbers= 53 pounds per robber.
Link Posted: 5/4/2006 6:22:05 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

using those figures

454 bills per pound  X $100 = $45,400.00.  $12,000,000/45,400 = 264 lbs.   264 lbs./ 5 bank robbers= 53 pounds per robber.



Only three robbers went into the bank, though.  That's 88lbs per robber.  Still not unreasonable for a short walk to the vehicle, although I am sure it was slowing them down once the gunfight began.



I've got a totally seperate question from the movie.

The initial armored car robbery takes place in the morning, before rush hour traffic.  Maybe 7:15am or so.  Det. Hannah doesn't arrive on the scene until after dark, though.  At that time, the crime scene techs are just examining the murder weapon and bodies.  Why did it take him so long to get there, and why isn't the crime scene progressing more towards wrap-up by then?  Even near the winter equinox, there must have been at least a 10-hour time lapse between the crime and his arrival.

Link Posted: 5/4/2006 7:17:25 AM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 5/4/2006 9:23:26 PM EDT
[#14]
Here is a frame capture I did a while back.



It's 11.5, where did you get that pic, the one I posted I caputured with Power DVD?
Link Posted: 5/15/2006 7:29:09 PM EDT
[#15]
I hope I'm not beating a dead horse, haven't read all the pages, but is Val shooting a post-ban? There isn't a bayo lug.
Link Posted: 5/15/2006 8:23:30 PM EDT
[#16]
actually, it's the hollyweird ghey version of the AR15M4, deplete the Corps luggage....
(just a joke/post!!!)
Link Posted: 5/15/2006 8:25:45 PM EDT
[#17]
good math!!!

yuou clearly move to the head of the class!

however... you forgot to consider the weight of the duffle bag, the rifle, the ammo, etc., thefore you will need to step up to the "chalk board" and explain your work. (sorry!)




Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
1 million dollars in $1.00 (one million bills) would weigh 1.1 tons

1 million dollars in $20.00 (50,000 bills) would weigh around 550 pounds.

1 million in $100.00 (10,000 bills) would weigh about 100 pounds.

Therefore, if they were to steal what? 12 million? and if all the money was in $100.00 bills, they would be carrying out approximately 1,200 pounds / 5 people = 240 pounds per person per duffle bag. Not likely.



Where are you getting those figures?



US Treasury

The approximate weight of a currency note, regardless of denomination is (1) one gram.

There are 454 grams in one (1) U.S. pound, therefore, there should be 454 notes in (1) one pound(Avoirdupois system).

The rest is basic math, mixed with a little round-up/down to even things out and voila!




using those figures

454 bills per pound  X $100 = $45,400.00.  $12,000,000/45,400 = 264 lbs.   264 lbs./ 5 bank robbers= 53 pounds per robber.

Link Posted: 5/16/2006 5:05:52 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
good math!!!

yuou clearly move to the head of the class!

however... you forgot to consider the weight of the duffle bag, the rifle, the ammo, etc., thefore you will need to step up to the "chalk board" and explain your work. (sorry!)




Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
1 million dollars in $1.00 (one million bills) would weigh 1.1 tons

1 million dollars in $20.00 (50,000 bills) would weigh around 550 pounds.

1 million in $100.00 (10,000 bills) would weigh about 100 pounds.

Therefore, if they were to steal what? 12 million? and if all the money was in $100.00 bills, they would be carrying out approximately 1,200 pounds / 5 people = 240 pounds per person per duffle bag. Not likely.



Where are you getting those figures?



US Treasury

The approximate weight of a currency note, regardless of denomination is (1) one gram.

There are 454 grams in one (1) U.S. pound, therefore, there should be 454 notes in (1) one pound(Avoirdupois system).

The rest is basic math, mixed with a little round-up/down to even things out and voila!




using those figures

454 bills per pound  X $100 = $45,400.00.  $12,000,000/45,400 = 264 lbs.   264 lbs./ 5 bank robbers= 53 pounds per robber.




Except that there were THREE robbers doing any carrying.
Link Posted: 6/8/2006 1:52:10 PM EDT
[#19]
Better late than never.
I picked up the special edition DVD since it was all I could find. I rarely watch the extra disc but this one was well worty it.
All the shooting scenes were done on the range with live ammo before they were shot with blanks for the filming and the good guys and bad guys trained seperatly and with live ammo.

If you read any of Andy McNab's books you see a sefinate style that shows up in the movie.
Link Posted: 6/11/2006 9:05:58 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Might as well add the official video.

Heat - The Dope Mix



Who does the music?

I've watched this probably more than the movie itself.
Link Posted: 6/11/2006 10:03:01 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
Who does the music?

I've watched this probably more than the movie itself. headbang.gif


The song used in the clip is called 'Everything Sucks' by Dope.
Link Posted: 6/11/2006 10:16:10 PM EDT
[#22]
i just noticed earlier today that both deniro and pacino were former Marines in the flick-i wonder how much of thier interaction in the film was built to work around that idea.
Link Posted: 6/11/2006 11:11:58 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Who does the music?

I've watched this probably more than the movie itself.


The song used in the clip is called 'Everything Sucks' by Dope.



Thanks!  Does the song have the audio from the LA Shootout in it, or is that an add-on for the video?
Link Posted: 6/12/2006 12:15:20 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Thanks!  Does the song have the audio from the LA Shootout in it, or is that an add-on for the video?

It's an add-on. I think I'd prefer it after hearing the Heat version now. It's not difficult to strip just audio from an MPEG video though.
Link Posted: 6/13/2006 10:20:12 AM EDT
[#25]
I thought this relevant from a GD post.

Come to the Dark Side, My Son...

Link Posted: 7/21/2006 3:16:53 PM EDT
[#26]
exceptable movie lol
Link Posted: 8/8/2006 7:30:26 AM EDT
[#27]
I found this on one of the Google Earth threads.  

Originally posted by: Thunderbolt882



A bird's eye view of where the shoot out took place.
Link Posted: 8/12/2006 3:09:22 PM EDT
[#28]
What really happens in the movie?  I bought it and fell asleep.
Link Posted: 8/12/2006 4:28:57 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
What really happens in the movie?  I bought it and fell asleep.


 Blasphemy!!!  BAN HER!!!
Link Posted: 8/13/2006 10:26:46 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
I found this on one of the Google Earth threads.  

Originally posted by: Thunderbolt882

i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/Talon370/Posting/untitled1ug9.jpg

A bird's eye view of where the shoot out took place.


Ahh, thanks. Here's some more if somebody wants to find them on Google Earth.

Filming Locations for Heat

And here's a better one:

Heat Filming Locations Map


Link Posted: 8/25/2006 2:26:36 PM EDT
[#31]
Say what you will about Michael Mann movies, but they always have very realistic gun play. In my opinion his movies, Saving Private Ryan, and Way of the Gun have the most realistic gun play in Hollywood.
Link Posted: 8/25/2006 3:08:54 PM EDT
[#32]
I haven't had a chance to check but is it true that the big dialogue scene between Deniro and Pacino never occurred. That they both shot there scenes separately and they never both appear in the same scene at once? My sister says that but I don't know.
Link Posted: 8/25/2006 3:23:27 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
I haven't had a chance to check but is it true that the big dialogue scene between Deniro and Pacino never occurred. That they both shot there scenes separately and they never both appear in the same scene at once? My sister says that but I don't know.






From IMDB:

www.imdb.com/title/tt0113277/trivia



  • Many viewers claim that Robert De Niro and Al Pacino never (or hardly ever) actually share screen time during the film, despite the hype surrounding the films release as showcasing their first screen appearance. In most Pan and Scan versions of the film, and TV broadcasts, it does appear that during the "diner scene" the two never actually share the screen, but viewing the film in correct letterbox format, as the director intended, clearly shows the two actors sitting at the table, though only in wide shots.



  • The meeting between Robert De Niro and Al Pacino over coffee was shot at Kate Mantilini on Wilshire Blvd. in Beverly Hills. The L.A. mainstay is a noted top spot for a stylish late supper. The restaurant now has "heat" spelled in neon above the door and a large poster of the actors in the now famous scene. Diners may request the very table featured in the scene, table #71, which wait staff are familiar with as "The Table", and are happy to seat De Niro Pacino fans at their famous meeting place.

Link Posted: 8/26/2006 7:19:39 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I haven't had a chance to check but is it true that the big dialogue scene between Deniro and Pacino never occurred. That they both shot there scenes separately and they never both appear in the same scene at once? My sister says that but I don't know.

From IMDB:

www.imdb.com/title/tt0113277/trivia



  • Many viewers claim that Robert De Niro and Al Pacino never (or hardly ever) actually share screen time during the film, despite the hype surrounding the films release as showcasing their first screen appearance. In most Pan and Scan versions of the film, and TV broadcasts, it does appear that during the "diner scene" the two never actually share the screen, but viewing the film in correct letterbox format, as the director intended, clearly shows the two actors sitting at the table, though only in wide shots.



  • The meeting between Robert De Niro and Al Pacino over coffee was shot at Kate Mantilini on Wilshire Blvd. in Beverly Hills. The L.A. mainstay is a noted top spot for a stylish late supper. The restaurant now has "heat" spelled in neon above the door and a large poster of the actors in the now famous scene. Diners may request the very table featured in the scene, table #71, which wait staff are familiar with as "The Table", and are happy to seat De Niro Pacino fans at their famous meeting place.



I emailed it to her. Thanks.
Link Posted: 10/4/2006 3:29:05 PM EDT
[#35]
Love this movie!
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:56:46 PM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 10/21/2006 8:41:52 AM EDT
[#37]
Link Posted: 10/29/2006 4:14:52 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
If you listen to the commntary, Mann says that the "coffee conversation" between DeNiro and Pacino was so well done that they did it on one take, no splices.  Mann compliments both of them on being exceptional professionals, able to know exactly where the camera is and how to play the scence correctly the very first time.  He illustrates this by drawing attention to their head movements as they talk to each other.


I love the way how through the entire scene Neil is completely ready to throw down in an instant, if it comes to that.  He never stops searching and scanning while he sits there.  I thought Det. Hanna was more relaxed because he initiated the contact and because he knew Neil was too professional and smart to kill a cop in front of witnesses.
Link Posted: 11/20/2006 2:33:33 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
<center><table width=85% border=0><tr><td width=100% class=textQuote><hr height=1px color=black noshade>Quoted:
This thread is great, thanks everyone for all the info and screen caps.

What are these 2 agents using? The bottom looks like an M16, but not sure of the model/type shotgun.

img506.imageshack.us/img506/3580/heatshootout018iq.gif


^_^_^
<hr height=1px color=black noshade>

Appears to be a Mossberg 590.


I believe it is a Mossberg 500A (at least it looks very similar to mine).  The 500 and 590 are VERY similar. The 590 is a beefier version, that I believe was used by the Marine Corp, of the 500.  The 590 has a stainless (or at least shiney) bolt visible in the ejection port and has a bayonet lug that will fit the M16 bayonet.  
Link Posted: 11/20/2006 3:20:49 PM EDT
[#40]
I forgot about this thread  

I have posted here before somewhere.

Taught a firearms safety class and showed the scene of the gun battle.
Link Posted: 12/7/2006 8:20:09 PM EDT
[#41]
The Lest-we-forget-what-gun-Al-Pacino-used-in-Heat-bump
Link Posted: 12/7/2006 8:49:56 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:

Heat Filming Locations Map



The first time I visited L.A., my goal was to go to the building where they filmed Die Hard. Now I have something else cool to do next time I'm there. No real need to visit the shanty town, the loading docks, or some of the other high-crime areas the site above warns about. But still some cool sites to check out.
Link Posted: 1/8/2007 6:57:48 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
What really happens in the movie?  I bought it and fell asleep.




Patty, its a good thing your hot



Link Posted: 1/10/2007 5:20:38 PM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 1/10/2007 7:23:39 PM EDT
[#45]
Link Posted: 1/10/2007 7:33:52 PM EDT
[#46]
height=8
Quoted:Isn't Michael Mann working on a new movie about a bombing in Saudi?

called "Kingdom"?

Yeah, "The Kingdom" with, yet again, Jamie Foxx.
Link Posted: 1/11/2007 6:26:33 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:Isn't Michael Mann working on a new movie about a bombing in Saudi?

called "Kingdom"?

Yeah, "The Kingdom" with, yet again, Jamie Foxx.


Mann is only credited with writing though.
Looks like a cool movie. Jason Bateman looks cool in an action role.
Link Posted: 1/18/2007 1:12:04 AM EDT
[#48]
Just finished watching it and I always remebered Pacino`s FNC being F/A, but it was a semi. I guess in my mind since everything else was F/A that I remember his being so too. Man this flick is sweet! Someone needs to start making some damn US built FNCs for us Heat fans!!!
Link Posted: 1/26/2007 7:42:47 AM EDT
[#49]
Can anyone verify what pistols Waynegrow carried. During the armored car scene I couldn't ID the pistol but, IIRC the stainless one at his end looked like a Star.

Anybody?

Link Posted: 2/19/2007 8:46:19 AM EDT
[#50]
With this being such a great movie and so realistic, i cant believe the slide didnt move on neils pistol when he shot Waingro. How does that work in movies, with having all these real weapons and then having that one that didnt recoil? Just some are props some arent?

I've always wondered that.
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