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Quoted: Please add me to your newsletter! I hate all of the cost cap, limited testing, and part limits. We should be looking for the most advanced machines that the best engineers can build. Don't care if there are practice, qualifying, and race engines. OP, sorry for the huge distraction ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Do not get me started. F1 should have people die all the time in my book. They should be looking for absolute speed regardless of cost with no limits placed on them. Quoted: F1 should be a death trap where the only goal is winning F1 should have crazy engines (most of which unstandardized) which just race hard. Change engines every lap? That's fine, might hurt your time. Have a bazillion dollars to invest? Sweet, the world gets better cars. F1 should legit be a contest of how fast cars can go, with no other rules Please add me to your newsletter! I hate all of the cost cap, limited testing, and part limits. We should be looking for the most advanced machines that the best engineers can build. Don't care if there are practice, qualifying, and race engines. OP, sorry for the huge distraction ![]() What you want is for humanity to flourish, as do I. The uncomfortable part is that there are people that don't |
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Quoted: LC500 is even better looking. https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/ccc2511b4bdc4f054865eb8c2897ebcc8ab5f75b/hub/2019/11/12/b63c6d2e-898d-42a7-add8-59c37566ccaa/2020-lexus-lc-500-02.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=675&width=1200 https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/701/lexus-lc-500-018-2c64c064c7bbfbe3772f38eaab82312b595bb8dc-1504048279.jpg View Quote ![]() That Lexus grill ruins everything. Whomever designed that should die a slow, painful death |
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Quoted: Every hoodrat that has a car that looks 95% identical to yours agrees. Love the car, love the performance, but you're the only person.....including owners I personally know.... to EVER call it classy. Maybe I'm wrong though. I also saw a dude in the NV section who has more thermal and NVG goodies than I do, I was super jealous. Until I saw the comparison photos he posted between them were....in a trailer park. View Quote No, you're not. Chargers and Challengers are both ruined by the fact that everyone and their brother has one and thinks it's the baddest car around. Absolutely nothing special about them anymore. |
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Quoted: The Viper's 8.4L V10 should be represented by a woman with E cups, not those tiny Bs. Also, there's plenty of room in that block to increase displacement for even more NA goodness. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/509384/FB_IMG_1561215089090-2940818.jpg Bonus targa top goodness for extra sexiness https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/509384/FB_IMG_1561215059296-2940820.jpg View Quote Better? ![]() |
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Quoted: Not yet, but I'm working pretty hard at it. Large engines will always reign supreme, period. Boomers were right, there's no replacement for displacement. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I drove a customers front engine Z06 the other day and it was insane. Everyone does cars wrong in terms of soul, but America. BMW used to be cool with nat asp only and rwd only and 50/50 but the government killed that. Japs have always been gay And yes, our laws are turbo gay what makes America awesome is we give zero shits and diesel delete faggotry then turbo a v10 because America. Fuck every other country in the world Are you drunk already? ![]() Not yet, but I'm working pretty hard at it. Large engines will always reign supreme, period. Boomers were right, there's no replacement for displacement. Lol.....no. I'm a fan of cars across the board, and the whole blanket statement "replacement for displacement" argument is bullshit. |
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Quoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/dont_believe_you_anchorman_zps267e5cbb_GIF-108.gif That Lexus grill ruins everything. Whomever designed that should die a slow, painful death View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: LC500 is even better looking. https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/ccc2511b4bdc4f054865eb8c2897ebcc8ab5f75b/hub/2019/11/12/b63c6d2e-898d-42a7-add8-59c37566ccaa/2020-lexus-lc-500-02.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=675&width=1200 https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/701/lexus-lc-500-018-2c64c064c7bbfbe3772f38eaab82312b595bb8dc-1504048279.jpg /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/dont_believe_you_anchorman_zps267e5cbb_GIF-108.gif That Lexus grill ruins everything. Whomever designed that should die a slow, painful death ![]() |
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Quoted: Lol.....no. I'm a fan of cars across the board, and the whole blanket statement "replacement for displacement" argument is bullshit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I drove a customers front engine Z06 the other day and it was insane. Everyone does cars wrong in terms of soul, but America. BMW used to be cool with nat asp only and rwd only and 50/50 but the government killed that. Japs have always been gay And yes, our laws are turbo gay what makes America awesome is we give zero shits and diesel delete faggotry then turbo a v10 because America. Fuck every other country in the world Are you drunk already? ![]() Not yet, but I'm working pretty hard at it. Large engines will always reign supreme, period. Boomers were right, there's no replacement for displacement. Lol.....no. I'm a fan of cars across the board, and the whole blanket statement "replacement for displacement" argument is bullshit. I'm sorry I didn't know the gays were aware of cars outside of Littlepony |
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Quoted: The Viper's 8.4L V10 should be represented by a woman with E cups, not those tiny Bs. Also, there's plenty of room in that block to increase displacement for even more NA goodness. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/509384/FB_IMG_1561215089090-2940818.jpg Bonus targa top goodness for extra sexiness https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/509384/FB_IMG_1561215059296-2940820.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: American V10 is best V10. ![]() https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59505/Capture_JPG-2940775.JPG The Viper's 8.4L V10 should be represented by a woman with E cups, not those tiny Bs. Also, there's plenty of room in that block to increase displacement for even more NA goodness. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/509384/FB_IMG_1561215089090-2940818.jpg Bonus targa top goodness for extra sexiness https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/509384/FB_IMG_1561215059296-2940820.jpg There's some guys local to me who swapped a viper v10 into an rx8. Based. |
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I believe you can still buy a brand new one. I recall seeing 1 or two left that were never sold
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They launched them and they were way too expensive for the performance. I guess if you make few enough of them, it still makes up the value.
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Ill start by saying I know nothing about this car, outside what I just googled. That being said Toyota/Lexus makes nothing that excites me on the performance side, such a boring car company. 4.8L V-10 w/ walnut sized pistons...
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Quoted: There's some guys local to me who swapped a viper v10 into an rx8. Based. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: American V10 is best V10. ![]() https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59505/Capture_JPG-2940775.JPG The Viper's 8.4L V10 should be represented by a woman with E cups, not those tiny Bs. Also, there's plenty of room in that block to increase displacement for even more NA goodness. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/509384/FB_IMG_1561215089090-2940818.jpg Bonus targa top goodness for extra sexiness https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/509384/FB_IMG_1561215059296-2940820.jpg There's some guys local to me who swapped a viper v10 into an rx8. Based. Based, but I would rather not die that quickly. |
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Quoted: Based, but I would rather not die that quickly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: American V10 is best V10. ![]() https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59505/Capture_JPG-2940775.JPG The Viper's 8.4L V10 should be represented by a woman with E cups, not those tiny Bs. Also, there's plenty of room in that block to increase displacement for even more NA goodness. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/509384/FB_IMG_1561215089090-2940818.jpg Bonus targa top goodness for extra sexiness https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/509384/FB_IMG_1561215059296-2940820.jpg There's some guys local to me who swapped a viper v10 into an rx8. Based. Based, but I would rather not die that quickly. Better quickly than slowly! ![]() |
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Quoted: American V10 is best V10. ![]() https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59505/Capture_JPG-2940775.JPG View Quote Love the Viper but it would be the body building chick with thick legs and a maybe-penis. |
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Quoted: Love the Viper but it would be the body building chick with thick legs and a maybe-penis. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: American V10 is best V10. ![]() https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59505/Capture_JPG-2940775.JPG Love the Viper but it would be the body building chick with thick legs and a maybe-penis. I think a Viper is more Jessica Biel in Blade Trinity. Strong, toned, might try to kill you, but still sleek and sexy. ![]() ![]() |
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Quoted: I believe you can still buy a brand new one. I recall seeing 1 or two left that were never sold View Quote They've continued to dwindle. I'm not saying Craig Zinn has one untitled currently, but if there's any, I'm betting one of his still is. His dad was the first Toyota dealer in FL (mid 60s), initial Lexus franchisee who has a great collection of rare Toyotas, including a number of 2000GT. He's a driver, and used to daily one ![]() |
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Quoted: For the price I would rather have a true super car like a Ferrari, Lamborghini, or very high end Porsche. View Quote Why? For the price, you buy an LFA and drive it. I don't think the LFA has crazy maintenance costs like other super cars. And in 20 years the LFA will still run like the day it came out of the factory. |
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Quoted: I'm actually kind of meh on these. The V10 is tiny. View Quote Tiny V10. The big boy V10 is 8+ liters. The LFA is neat because they made it. But boring because it’s a Toyota. Boring lines and mild at best. Full of electronic nanny assists any “driver” looks good because the car does it all. If you want a surprise. Turn off all the traction control and stability crap and give it a drive. |
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Quoted: Love the Viper but it would be the body building chick with thick legs and a maybe-penis. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: American V10 is best V10. ![]() https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59505/Capture_JPG-2940775.JPG Love the Viper but it would be the body building chick with thick legs and a maybe-penis. ![]() |
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Quoted: I'm actually kind of meh on these. The V10 is tiny. View Quote This one's 38% smaller. ![]() Ferrari F2002 F1 V10 Engine Pure Sound |
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One of the most insane sounding cars of all time from the factory.
Actual Toyoda family member had to say “no we’re doing this” IIRC Literally the crown jewel of a corporation who is about to go into GM-style badge engineering hard. There was a white one that sat at our dealer for several years inside the Lexus showroom. No clue what happened to it. Plenty of people around here that could swing the $. A gen 3/4 Viper or C7 Z06 is more my affordability, but gotta give credit where it’s due. |
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Quoted: Tiny V10. The big boy V10 is 8+ liters. The LFA is neat because they made it. But boring because it’s a Toyota. Boring lines and mild at best. Full of electronic nanny assists any “driver” looks good because the car does it all. If you want a surprise. Turn off all the traction control and stability crap and give it a drive. View Quote Driving nannies are on every car. Go take a look at the number of computerized systems that help mediocre drivers keep from turning modern 911s into scrap. |
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Quoted: My Viper has one nanny. ABS. Everything else is on me to handle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Driving nannies are on every car. Go take a look at the number of computerized systems that help mediocre drivers keep from turning modern 911s into scrap. My Viper has one nanny. ABS. Everything else is on me to handle. No ABS or cupholders on mine. ![]() |
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Quoted: My Viper has one nanny. ABS. Everything else is on me to handle. View Quote My point was you were dissing the Lexus for nannies when they are pretty ubiquitous. If you want to say your Viper is more manly because it doesn't have those features, ok, fine but don't single out Lexus as the only brand that tries to find ways to avoid killing their clients. ![]() If you want to talk about driver assistance, all I have is boosted brakes on mine. Fortunately for me, even with some minor mods, I also have less than 200 hp as well. ![]() |
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Quoted: My point was you were dissing the Lexus for nannies when they are pretty ubiquitous. If you want to say your Viper is more manly because it doesn't have those features, ok, fine but don't single out Lexus as the only brand that tries to find ways to avoid killing their clients. ![]() If you want to talk about driver assistance, all I have is boosted brakes on mine. Fortunately for me, even with some minor mods, I also have less than 200 hp as well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/502236/IMG_4897_jpeg-2941035.JPG View Quote But you get there in style with that fine tan leather interior. |
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View Quote fun story and why I love the cars I do. DSM shootout probably 2001ish. Mopar Nationals happened the night before. There are half a dozen vipers including a henny still at the track doing some tuning. viper happened to be my favorite car at the time. I was attending the shootout with a Friend. then all the 4 banger forced induction awd cars hit the track. I watched all of the vipers get smoked time after time by a bunch of 16yo kids running fish tank regulators for boost controllers. The old boomer Hennessy guy really didn't like loosing 3 of 3 to a bunch kids in $1000 cars. After the third lose he got out. Whipped his $1000 shoei helmet down the track and kicked in his own viper door. it was at that point I knew what my favorite cars were track announcers were almost as good. "kids, last night was the mopar nationals, There cars wererunning 9 seconds and breaking drive shafts" he blasts across the PA. The first two cars rip sub 9 and the Announcer shits himself. second run a carbon shaft explodes. Someone ran on to the track held up the pieces and yelled to the announcer. "Yea it's carbon fiber" good times. comparing anything mopar to the Lexus isn't even possible and I am a huge mopar fan boy. The 90-99 eclipse is the baddest mopar and possible best car ever made. |
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Quoted: Needs more Viper. One day WTC may be able to do more than just look at them. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77421/854BE8BC-CABB-4EF0-8BB5-23F3D9617415_jpe-1715587.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77421/arf1-600377.JPG View Quote From that angle the rear end looks like a Sebring convertible which is a shame. |
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Quoted: comparing anything mopar to the Lexus isn't even possible and I am a huge mopar fan boy. The 90-99 eclipse is the baddest mopar and possible best car ever made. View Quote In 2012 the LFA was chasing the gen 4 Vipers Nuremberg times and couldn’t beat it. It got close. With all the technology it still couldn’t beat a viper with none of the nannys. I find that funny. But yet here we are and you’re making a Mitsubishi reference. The early 2000 eclipse was a neat body style and the cars were fun. But I don’t know of any Mitsubishi or Lexus powered vehicle for that matter that came in a factory 8 second 1/4 time either. (Demon 170 reference incase you aren’t aware of it) Don’t see many of the eclipses on the road today. Doesn’t look like they held the test of time either. Most were riced out or just trashed in general. |
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View Quote That sounds mean, but it's not stock. I love American muscle, big V8's and V10's as well as high revving engines like the one's in the LFA or the Italian supercars. |
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Quoted: In 2012 the LFA was chasing the gen 4 Vipers times and couldn't beat it. It got close. With all the technology it still couldn't beat a viper with none of the nannys. I find that funny. But yet here we are and you're making a Mitsubishi reference. The early 2000 eclipse was a neat body style and the cars were fun. But I don't know of any Mitsubishi or Lexus powered vehicle for that matter that came in a factory 8 second 1/4 time either. (Demon 170 reference incase you aren't aware of it) Don't see many of the eclipses on the road today. Doesn't look like they held the test of time either. Most were riced out or just trashed in general. View Quote eta: wtf is Nuremberg?? Lol the lfa was never meant to win paper titles. It was meant to be the best driving car ever. |
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Quoted: It's not always about lap times. The pre 99 eclipses were made in Illinois's. My riced out one is still on the road smoking hellcats for fun. View Quote There’s two sets of times people pay attention to in performance. Straight line or road coarse. You’re saying it’s not about lap times then mentions your car still being around smoking hellcats. You’re a wee bit contradictory there in your statement. Would like to know more about this 10 second eclipse though. I did like that body style back when it came out. Especially the GSX-T. Favorite from that era was the 3000GT VR4 Spyder though. That car was ahead of it’s time. The main point that usually sticks in my head is that when you push things to the extreme limits. Like massive boost in a smallish 4 cyl things don’t tend to last long without major rebuilds. The viper makes 600+ stock. And with a few bolt ons or a cam/head upgrade 700. To get that power to weight ratio in a smaller 4cyl it’s a shit ton of stress going into the motor to do it. I remember back in the 2000’s. The saying was “there’s no replacement for displacement except technology” it was the rally call of the 20 year old reply to the boomers. As I get older though. It’s easy to note the reality is that same tech can be applied to big engines. Like the Calvaro Motorsports 2400hp Gen V viper. It really depends on where you want to start off with as a platform. All the stuff done to an eclipse done to a hellcat or Z06 or Viper. Would make that eclipse get left behind in the dust. As for the reference to John Hennessy. He’s a scam artist that is hated in the Viper world. He ripped off people repeatedly and did dangerously unreliable tuning to engines. |
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Quoted: They've continued to dwindle. I'm not saying Craig Zinn has one untitled currently, but if there's any, I'm betting one of his still is. His dad was the first Toyota dealer in FL (mid 60s), initial Lexus franchisee who has a great collection of rare Toyotas, including a number of 2000GT. He's a driver, and used to daily one ![]() View Quote A shame that enthusiast owned dealerships are dwindling these days. The late owner of one of the bigger Toyota dealerships here had quite a collection, including a LFA. Don't think it lasted more than a month or two after his passing before his daughter liquidated it all. |
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Quoted: It isn't always about times unless that's what you're going for. The LFA was never supposed to the fastest. It wasnt supposed to be a pure performance race car. It's a drivers car. Luxury sport tourer. I mention the eclipse because it was the best car mopar ever put their hands on. as for the boost I'm running 30psi(+bigger turbo) on this car and have been for 40,000 miles. Stock block. Stock tranny. over twice the factory power. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/280864/IMG_6655-2905458.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/280864/IMG_8711-2905460.jpg but neither my car nor ANY mopar belong in an LFA thread. View Quote That’s the best body style of the eclipse lineup as far as I am concerned. Plenty of guys run the stock Gen 5 vipers up to 1000hp on the oem bottom end. As well as the stock rear gears and transmission. Beyond that though. Things tend to break. As for Vipers in a LFA thread. So far there’s more than one Viper owner in here… ![]() |
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Quoted: A shame that enthusiast owned dealerships are dwindling these days. The late owner of one of the bigger Toyota dealerships here had quite a collection, including a LFA. Don't think it lasted more than a month or two after his passing before his daughter liquidated it all. View Quote Sadly that happens. Look at the flying hearts collection for an example. Paul Allen was still warm and his family was ready to sell off the collection even after he set it up to be a self maintaining collection that actually made profits from the exhibitions. |
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1. The LFA looks much better in person than in print.
2. It is the best sounding car I've ever heard up close and personal. 3. Love the Viper, but come on, why are we talking about it in an LFA thread? |
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Quoted: You're one of the smartest, most personable guys on this forum. Why do you feel the need to mimic the retards? Does GD have some sort of power over you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: When did GD become gay You're one of the smartest, most personable guys on this forum. Why do you feel the need to mimic the retards? Does GD have some sort of power over you? That's very kind of you but I'm actually retarded |
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Quoted: Needs more Viper. One day WTC may be able to do more than just look at them. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77421/854BE8BC-CABB-4EF0-8BB5-23F3D9617415_jpe-1715587.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77421/arf1-600377.JPG View Quote ![]() |
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