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Posted: 9/23/2012 12:08:19 PM EDT
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page 2 place holder
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Posted: 9/23/2012 12:08:24 PM EDT
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We'll see if I did this right. Rock River lower with 7" JSE barrel and MBUS http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Archerofloaf/IMAG0863_zps14d39870.jpg?t=1348428222 Used magazine supported prone The target 25 yards out http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Archerofloaf/IMAG0865_zps448b2bc7.jpg?t=1348426904 The finished groups http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Archerofloaf/IMAG0867_zps237a154a.jpg?t=1348429854 Smallest group http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Archerofloaf/IMAG0869_zps44b405f3.jpg?t=1348429870 Largest group http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Archerofloaf/IMAG0870_zps9a0b29f7.jpg?t=1348429971 I think I figured the MOA wrong, I used the side of the ruler you see and came up with 1.46 Was that a 22lr or .223? Only 22lr is 25 yards, .223 (or larger) is 50 yards. If that was .22lr then write down the group sizes on the targets and also type them in the text of your post. I'll do the math. If that was a .223 or anything larger then .22lr you'll have to do it at 50 yards. All I need is picture of 1.) set up, 2.) overall target with group sizes written on sheet next to each group and 3.) close up on best group with rule or calipers on group. |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 12:22:06 PM EDT
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Rock River lower w/ 7" JSE barrel, MBUS and CMMG .22 Conversion kit
Shot from the prone magazine supported position 
Best Group 
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Posted: 9/23/2012 12:38:15 PM EDT
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Snip Good job. That 1.46 was what your average group size was, you then take that number 1.46" divide by distance in yards so 1.46/25= 0.0584 now take that and multiple by 100 so 0.0584 x 100= 5.84 MOA ETA: I shot my M&P 15-22 but I ended up miss counted and shot a 4 shot group and a 6 shot group but on that target my best group were two groups of 0.98" and a large group of 1.7", the MOA on that 5.28 I need to redo it next time I go out and learn how to count 
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Posted: 9/23/2012 12:45:23 PM EDT
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Place holder for Service & SPR Divisions.
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Posted: 9/23/2012 12:46:56 PM EDT
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Snip... ETA: Why not smallbore at 50 feet? That's a pretty standard distance for 22 LR. I've always just done 25 yards Plus it would be impossible to get an MOA out of it, the diameter of the bullet would be bigger then the size needed to even shoot 1 MOA at the distance. You'd have to shoot roughly a 0.17" group if I did my math right. At 50 feet = 16.66 yards. (0.17" /16.66 yards) x 100 = 1.02 MOA Not that the ~ 0.03" left over from a 22lr to get a 0.25" group is gonna be a piece of cake but it is possible... I did shot a 4 shoot group practicing for Appleseed that measured 0.27"! The 5th round killed it 
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Posted: 9/23/2012 12:49:50 PM EDT
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Snip Good job. That 1.46 was what your average group size was, you then take that number 1.46" divide by distance in yards so 1.46/25= 0.0584 now take that and multiple by 100 so 0.0584 x 100= 5.84 MOA Gotcha, thanks! |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 12:58:45 PM EDT
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I'll bite. I can't see shit without a scope, but I'll give the irons a try!
This is my place holder until next weekend! 
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Posted: 9/23/2012 12:59:41 PM EDT
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In for next range trip.
12 gauge at 12 feet.
Just kidding. Likely ar15 entry but not sure. Might go with the mini 14 for the lulz. |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 1:24:58 PM EDT
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I will also be doing magnified .22lr @100 with a CZ 453 American later this week, will try it with 5 different types of ammo.
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Posted: 9/23/2012 1:38:43 PM EDT
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No rules about hand loading?
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Posted: 9/23/2012 1:51:02 PM EDT
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No rules about hand loading? Nope, handload till your hearts content 
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Posted: 9/23/2012 2:14:19 PM EDT
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figured I'd do SPR instead of some hand load heavy bolt gun circle jerk
RRA/Bushmaster Kinda Recce Rifle TA55 ACOG AAC M4-2000 suppressor Older unknown vintage Black Hills 68gr moly coated On a harris bipod and my hat balled up under the stock my math comes to 1.04 but I am gonna argue margin of error there     |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 2:47:11 PM EDT
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figured I'd do SPR instead of some hand load heavy bolt gun circle jerk RRA/Bushmaster Kinda Recce Rifle TA55 ACOG AAC M4-2000 suppressor Older unknown vintage Black Hills 68gr moly coated On a harris bipod and my hat balled up under the stock my math comes to 1.04 but I am gonna argue margin of error there
Mine came out to 1.0438", you sir are 1st on the 1 MOA All Day list! Nice work! I also had to adjust the rules to exact MOA thank to you wanting to be all close and shit with that 0.004" difference
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Posted: 9/23/2012 2:59:57 PM EDT
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Cool ......Im in
 Too bad 22Mag and 17 HMR arent allowed in a rimfire class  |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 4:17:44 PM EDT
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This is a tough challenge. I tried to shoot it all the way through. The gun got so hot that mirage from the barrel cost me a shot on the top group. The middle, stand alone shot was because I cannot count. I dialed the scope away, realized I only shot four rounds, and then miscounted again when I dialed back later. The best group is just under 0.75 MOA. The worst is still under 1.5 MOA. 
The rifle is a Stevens I rebarreled and converted to .223. For ammo, I was using my highpower short course load, 77 over 23.5gr TAC. I'll replace this post when shoot 5 MOA or better groups in a row. The groups are from smallest to largest: 0.650 0.732 0.845 0.992 1.334 1.340 So, even with two poor groups, those six groups average to 0.9821667. The groups were shot from a bipod at 100 yards with the off hand securing the butt of the rifle. Here are some smallbore prone groups. These were done with jacket and sling. The first is from 100 yards with a scope. The next two are from 50 yards with irons. 
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Posted: 9/23/2012 4:28:40 PM EDT
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100 yards standing, no sling, iron sites, marlin 66, federal 550 round box o cheap ammo, 1/4th quart o shine for fuel |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 4:41:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: Cool ......Im in Too bad 22Mag and 17 HMR arent allowed in a rimfire class I was thinking about that Hate to change stuff mid course but if I could be so bold to suggest 22LR at 100yds is a heck of a poke especially with subsonic match ammo and sub MOA is going to be very tough at that distance 50 for all 22 LR would make more sense and then throw in a scoped 100yd 17 HMR/M2 22 WMR class but that's just like my opinion |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 4:45:05 PM EDT
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Cool ......Im in
Too bad 22Mag and 17 HMR arent allowed in a rimfire class
I was thinking about that Hate to change stuff mid course but if I could be so bold to suggest 22LR at 100yds is a heck of a poke especially with subsonic match ammo and sub MOA is going to be very tough at that distance 50 for all 22 LR would make more sense and then throw in a scoped 100yd 17 HMR/M2 22 WMR class but that's just like my opinion OK I am sold as this is only a day old and I am working out the kinks. I will update the OP. |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 4:45:51 PM EDT
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Quoted: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh131/SlipShot762/offhand.jpg 100 yards standing, no sling, iron sites, marlin 66, federal 550 round box o cheap ammo, 1/4th quart o shine for fuel 2"-3" if ya count the flyer offhand group with a Marlin 66 with stock sights at 100yds?  you should try out for the Olympics |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 5:27:31 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cool ......Im in Too bad 22Mag and 17 HMR arent allowed in a rimfire class I was thinking about that Hate to change stuff mid course but if I could be so bold to suggest 22LR at 100yds is a heck of a poke especially with subsonic match ammo and sub MOA is going to be very tough at that distance 50 for all 22 LR would make more sense and then throw in a scoped 100yd 17 HMR/M2 22 WMR class but that's just like my opinion OK I am sold as this is only a day old and I am working out the kinks. I will update the OP. Cool Back when I was living in Michigan , we added a 75yd rimfire class to our Sunday club shoots . I suggested that they have two classes , one for 22LR and one for the 17HMR , they didnt want the headaches .......the 17HMR absolutely dominated the class . I havent shot her from the bench in over a year , but my Savage 93-17 Varmint makes exceptionally small groups at 100yds with Remington Premiere ammo  |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 5:40:38 PM EDT
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http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh131/SlipShot762/offhand.jpg 100 yards standing, no sling, iron sites, marlin 66, federal 550 round box o cheap ammo, 1/4th quart o shine for fuel 2"-3" if ya count the flyer offhand group with a Marlin 66 with stock sights at 100yds?
you should try out for the Olympics lol you sound like ole mccoy "you god damn fools should shoot for the olympics, course they wouldnt let you, lookit ya, ya gotta have some kinda normal manners to be allowed in there..." no shit. a hillbilly shootin match goes thusly dude, and im only average mind you... clay pidgeons are stuck in stretched and folded wire coat hangers on a line 100 yards away, every asshole can shoot whatever he wants, standing, sling or no, scope or no, but ya get one shot. ya hit, ya keep yer dollar, ya miss, ya put a dollar in the hosts hat. after everyone gets one shot those who hit divide the hat, host keeps the oddball dollars that wont divide. add booze n weed (and pain meds for the dregs or old farts) and repeat all day till yer broke or a passing whore picks you up. eta my cousin worm is considered the best of the normal pool of shooters, uses sum chech 22 bolt rifle, modded trigger, 3-9 scope, and a sling....usually fucked up on oxys so he IS a sandbag eta2 my bad that may have been fifty, is an old pic from a similar thread on a dif board i think |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 5:43:16 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh131/SlipShot762/offhand.jpg 100 yards standing, no sling, iron sites, marlin 66, federal 550 round box o cheap ammo, 1/4th quart o shine for fuel 2"-3" if ya count the flyer offhand group with a Marlin 66 with stock sights at 100yds? you should try out for the Olympics lol you sound like ole mccoy "you god damn fools should shoot for the olympics, course they wouldnt let you, lookit ya, ya gotta have some kinda normal manners to be allowed in there..." no shit. a hillbilly shootin match goes thusly dude, and im only average mind you... clay pidgeons are stuck in stretched and folded wire coat hangers on a line 100 yards away, every asshole can shoot whatever he wants, standing, sling or no, scope or no, but ya get one shot. ya hit, ya keep yer dollar, ya miss, ya put a dollar in the hosts hat. after everyone gets one shot those who hit divide the hat, host keeps the oddball dollars that wont divide. add booze n weed (and pain meds for the dregs or old farts) and repeat all day till yer broke or a passing whore picks you up. eta my cousin worm is considered the best of the normal pool of shooters, uses sum chech 22 bolt rifle, modded trigger, 3-9 scope, and a sling....usually fucked up on oxys so he IS a sandbag k You and cmjohnson need to have a shoot off FWIW a few years ago I went to a hillbilly "trap shoot" was supposed to be some hard edged steely eyed never missing gamblers there They made fun of my vest and patches I came home with $300 and was never invited back *shrug*  |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 5:50:27 PM EDT
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http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh131/SlipShot762/offhand.jpg 100 yards standing, no sling, iron sites, marlin 66, federal 550 round box o cheap ammo, 1/4th quart o shine for fuel 2"-3" if ya count the flyer offhand group with a Marlin 66 with stock sights at 100yds?
you should try out for the Olympics lol you sound like ole mccoy "you god damn fools should shoot for the olympics, course they wouldnt let you, lookit ya, ya gotta have some kinda normal manners to be allowed in there..." no shit. a hillbilly shootin match goes thusly dude, and im only average mind you... clay pidgeons are stuck in stretched and folded wire coat hangers on a line 100 yards away, every asshole can shoot whatever he wants, standing, sling or no, scope or no, but ya get one shot. ya hit, ya keep yer dollar, ya miss, ya put a dollar in the hosts hat. after everyone gets one shot those who hit divide the hat, host keeps the oddball dollars that wont divide. add booze n weed (and pain meds for the dregs or old farts) and repeat all day till yer broke or a passing whore picks you up. eta my cousin worm is considered the best of the normal pool of shooters, uses sum chech 22 bolt rifle, modded trigger, 3-9 scope, and a sling....usually fucked up on oxys so he IS a sandbag k You and cmjohnson need to have a shoot off we hadnt had a good match in more than ayear here cuz worm got in trouble and has been rattin on everone and his daddy wont host cuz hes afraid sumone will kill him, but he ran outta people to rat on so hes goin away for a while and the matches will likely start again soon....id like to shoot sum now. we got a nuther fellar usually beats me, used a lil kid sized bolt action 223 of sum kind with a sling and big as 6-18 scope, older dude, with worm gone id say he will be the best this time around |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 5:52:23 PM EDT
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http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh131/SlipShot762/offhand.jpg 100 yards standing, no sling, iron sites, marlin 66, federal 550 round box o cheap ammo, 1/4th quart o shine for fuel 2"-3" if ya count the flyer offhand group with a Marlin 66 with stock sights at 100yds?
you should try out for the Olympics lol you sound like ole mccoy "you god damn fools should shoot for the olympics, course they wouldnt let you, lookit ya, ya gotta have some kinda normal manners to be allowed in there..." no shit. a hillbilly shootin match goes thusly dude, and im only average mind you... clay pidgeons are stuck in stretched and folded wire coat hangers on a line 100 yards away, every asshole can shoot whatever he wants, standing, sling or no, scope or no, but ya get one shot. ya hit, ya keep yer dollar, ya miss, ya put a dollar in the hosts hat. after everyone gets one shot those who hit divide the hat, host keeps the oddball dollars that wont divide. add booze n weed (and pain meds for the dregs or old farts) and repeat all day till yer broke or a passing whore picks you up. eta my cousin worm is considered the best of the normal pool of shooters, uses sum chech 22 bolt rifle, modded trigger, 3-9 scope, and a sling....usually fucked up on oxys so he IS a sandbag k You and cmjohnson need to have a shoot off FWIW a few years ago I went to a hillbilly "trap shoot" was supposed to be some hard edged steely eyed never missing gamblers there They made fun of my vest and patches I came home with $300 and was never invited back *shrug* http://i45.tinypic.com/24o6a9i.jpg lol yah i know what ya mean, my dad used to do trap, i never liked it, a lot of them rely soley on the gun itself. a hillbilly shotgun match, not to be confused with trap, is a paper plat with a 2 inch circle on it at 15 yards, number 7 shot, most shot in the black wins.....it always comes down to who has the most pricey shotgun, usually sum old sumbitch with a charles daley |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 5:52:41 PM EDT
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Quoted: If it fits you and you can shoot you can beat the world with a 870lol yah i know what ya mean, my dad used to do trap, i never liked it, a lot of them rely soley on the gun itself. a hillbilly shotgun match, not to be confused with trap, is a paper plat with a 2 inch circle on it at 15 yards, number 7 shot, most shot in the black wins.....it always comes down to who has the most pricey shotgun, usually sum old sumbitch with a charles daley hillbilly shoots I went to were all Annie Oakley trap style Annie Oakley – Annies are where 3 shooters mount their guns, the first calls for the bird and shoots. If she/he hits, no one else can shoot and she/he is safe. If the first shooter misses, the second shooter shoots. If she/he hits, that knocks the 1st shooter out. If she/he misses, the third shooter shoots. If she/he hits, he knocks the 1st two out. If all three miss, all are safe. If the 1st shooter shoots and misses, the second shooter breaks and the 3rd shooter shoots, shooter 1 and 3 are out. For the next round, the second shooter shoots first at the next target, with the 3rd and 4th backing on that target…and so on. Remember, if any person shoots and breaks, and the shooter after him shoots, the shooter who shot at the dead target is out. If you go to 5 shooters at once and the 1st four miss, the 5th shooter is shooting at a target close to hitting the ground. Thrilling and usually causes a roar from the group. Lots of fun!!! Last one standing wins the pot I'll stop hijacking this neat thread now |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 6:33:15 PM EDT
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If it fits you and you can shoot you can beat the world with a 870
lol yah i know what ya mean, my dad used to do trap, i never liked it, a lot of them rely soley on the gun itself. a hillbilly shotgun match, not to be confused with trap, is a paper plat with a 2 inch circle on it at 15 yards, number 7 shot, most shot in the black wins.....it always comes down to who has the most pricey shotgun, usually sum old sumbitch with a charles daley hillbilly shoots I went to were all Annie Oakley trap style Annie Oakley – Annies are where 3 shooters mount their guns, the first calls for the bird and shoots. If she/he hits, no one else can shoot and she/he is safe. If the first shooter misses, the second shooter shoots. If she/he hits, that knocks the 1st shooter out. If she/he misses, the third shooter shoots. If she/he hits, he knocks the 1st two out. If all three miss, all are safe. If the 1st shooter shoots and misses, the second shooter breaks and the 3rd shooter shoots, shooter 1 and 3 are out. For the next round, the second shooter shoots first at the next target, with the 3rd and 4th backing on that target…and so on. Remember, if any person shoots and breaks, and the shooter after him shoots, the shooter who shot at the dead target is out. If you go to 5 shooters at once and the 1st four miss, the 5th shooter is shooting at a target close to hitting the ground. Thrilling and usually causes a roar from the group. Lots of fun!!! Last one standing wins the pot I'll stop hijacking this neat thread now no man not a hijack, relevant says i... id agree, 870 or mossy 500 are my kinda shotguns but my kin always thought i was a tard for it, to them, the uncles what shoots trap, ya gotta have a rem 1100 or chuck everday with gold inlay or you aint worth competin against. id kill those tards with a shoestring, is the truth....if strokes and prison sentences werent already killin em hahahhaa 
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Posted: 9/23/2012 6:53:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2012 7:20:06 PM EDT
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Here's mine.
Rifle is a Rem 700 Police in .308. Scope is a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-32x40. Ammo was handloads, 175gr SMK BTHP on top of 41.0 grains of H4895, Lapua brass. First time shooting this load in this rifle. Groups were shot from prone with a bipod at 100 yards. 
Group sizes were written on target after subtracting .308 1.314 1.292 1.437 1.127 0.792 Average: 1.19", 1.19 MOA I haven't touched this rifle, except to move it around in the safe, for the past 5 years. I called just about every shot on the paper. I have no doubt that if this gun were in a vise, it would punch group after group with all rounds touching. This was the second target I shot. The first was a sighting target to make sure my scope was dialed in. |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 8:05:25 PM EDT
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I didn't feel like going out and printing yet another target. Most are just like this or better. UGSW Tikka .260.
This is the very first 25 rounds after a 2 round break-in.... 5 *DIFFERENT* loads.... 
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the print to be readable, but it says: .458" .419" .545" .321" .657" Average of 25 shots for 5 different loads: .480" This rifle has shown this kind of accuracy repeatably over the last 1500 rounds from 100 to 1000 yards. Bipod and rear bag, in the dirt. 
500 yds: 
John |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 8:17:43 PM EDT
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I didn't feel like going out and printing yet another target. Most are just like this or better. UGSW Tikka .260. ...Snip... John Extremely impressive! Seriously that is incredible shooting! But just for the purpose of this challenge I can't add it due to it being a year old, no offense. Do a new set like that and post it and I think you may be hard to beat! |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 8:18:15 PM EDT
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Nice shootin John
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Posted: 9/23/2012 8:39:34 PM EDT
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Just went shooting yesterday.
All 5 groupings http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff478/mattjosh111/55shotgroups.jpg Best Grouping (top right) http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff478/mattjosh111/IMG_3861.jpg Setup http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff478/mattjosh111/IMG_3855.jpg Remington 700p .308 168gr. Sierra Match Kingk Bipod in the front, Sweatshirt in the back Distance: 125 yards Groups: 1.73" 1.41" (best) 1.66" 1.56" 1.82" Average =1.63" Average Center to Center: (1.63-.308) = 1.33" MOA @ 100 yards = 1.047" MOA @ 125 yards = 1.30875" My shooting = 1.33/1.30875 My shooting = 1.016 MOA Guess I need to practice more. |
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Posted: 9/23/2012 8:49:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2012 10:07:58 PM EDT
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So let me get this straight... Slings are a no go, but bipods are okay?
WTF? Gonna go with this. Why no slings? |
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Posted: 9/24/2012 4:24:25 AM EDT
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So let me get this straight... Slings are a no go, but bipods are okay?
WTF? Gonna go with this. Why no slings? I had to reread the OP a few times myself
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I'll stop hijacking this neat thread now I don't think that really was a hijack, it showed the true spirit of the thread. People will claim sub MOA all day long but not put anything to back it up. |
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Posted: 9/24/2012 5:05:30 AM EDT
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I didn't feel like going out and printing yet another target. Most are just like this or better. UGSW Tikka .260. ...Snip... John Extremely impressive! Seriously that is incredible shooting! But just for the purpose of this challenge I can't add it due to it being a year old, no offense. Do a new set like that and post it and I think you may be hard to beat! No offense taken... I wasn't necessarily trying to "win", just trying to demonstrate what top-drawer rifles are truly capable of. With someone who really knows how to shoot, this is probably an honest .25-.3" rifle, but you saw the fliers... One thing I do find extremely interesting is how unaffected by load this rifle seems to be. I can basically pick any bullet and velocity node (within pressure limits of course) and it will pretty much shoot really close to that. The only load that shot poor was 140 Hybrids over RL17. If this barrel had more life in it, I'd be more inclined to go out and print an "official" target. But I rarely waste it on paper, especially at 100 yds, and I'm really hoping to make it through next year without rebarreling. I do load development at 5-600 yds. now so I can verify ES/vertical. I'm with you though. Lots of accuracy claims out there without much statistical follow through. In my experience there are not many "hunting rifles" that will print 25 sub-moa shots. There might be a few of the "off-the-shelf" tactical rifles with heavier barrels that can do it. I've seen some pretty impressive groups from the Tikka Tactical and Varmint rifles as well as the Remington's, but most of those were isolated and not 5 groups of five on a page. It definitely makes things real. I applaud the challenge. Let the data continue to come in. John |
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Posted: 9/24/2012 5:09:19 AM EDT
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Quoted: ... NO SHOOTING JACKETS ... this has to be a typo, right? |
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Posted: 9/24/2012 6:10:23 AM EDT
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... NO SHOOTING JACKETS ... this has to be a typo, right? Nope, not everyone has a shooting jacket, this isn't Highpower the rules are setup to limit certain items to make for as level a field as possible.
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Posted: 9/24/2012 8:18:11 AM EDT
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Quoted: Well you now went from impossible to improbable Quoted: Quoted: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh131/SlipShot762/offhand.jpg 100 yards standing, no sling, iron sites, marlin 66, federal 550 round box o cheap ammo, 1/4th quart o shine for fuel 2"-3" if ya count the flyer offhand group with a Marlin 66 with stock sights at 100yds? you should try out for the Olympics eta2 my bad that may have been fifty, is an old pic from a similar thread on a dif board i think but ill give ya benefit of the doubt |
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Posted: 9/24/2012 8:26:24 AM EDT
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Well you now went from impossible to improbable
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http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh131/SlipShot762/offhand.jpg 100 yards standing, no sling, iron sites, marlin 66, federal 550 round box o cheap ammo, 1/4th quart o shine for fuel 2"-3" if ya count the flyer offhand group with a Marlin 66 with stock sights at 100yds?
you should try out for the Olympics eta2 my bad that may have been fifty, is an old pic from a similar thread on a dif board i think but ill give ya benefit of the doubt Until their are 5 small groups on one sheet of paper in a believable fashion it's all just talk
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Posted: 9/24/2012 3:10:57 PM EDT
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http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh131/SlipShot762/offhand.jpg 100 yards standing, no sling, iron sites, marlin 66, federal 550 round box o cheap ammo, 1/4th quart o shine for fuel 2"-3" if ya count the flyer offhand group with a Marlin 66 with stock sights at 100yds?
you should try out for the Olympics eta2 my bad that may have been fifty, is an old pic from a similar thread on a dif board i think but ill give ya benefit of the doubt Until their are 5 small groups on one sheet of paper in a believable fashion it's all just talk with the 100 yard claim, anything posted is now suspect |
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Posted: 9/24/2012 4:12:09 PM EDT
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I am in on this. I have several bolt action rifles that shoot very well but my targets are old since I shoot mostly pistols now for IDPA. Consider this a place holder for a submission coming within the next few weeks.
Edit. 1st try. After reading the rules I think I violated rule #5. I will leave this up but it is not an official submission. Will try it again without a rear rest. I got a chance to hit the range with a couple of rifles this morning. It was very windy here and my Savage .22 rimfire bolt action that I used in another contest and is a confirmed sub-moa rifle with good ammo averaged almost 2 MOA. So I switched over to my Savage model 112 bolt action that has a 26" heavy barrel and is chambered in .223 Remington. It has a Tasco Japan 6-24x but it works good enough for me on this rifle. I shot 5 groups with 5 shots per group and my groups were .829", .950", .793", 1.099", .959" for an average of .926". This rifle has done better in the past but I rarely shoot rifles anymore and am quite rusty and the wind wasn't helping things much. 
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Posted: 9/24/2012 6:00:10 PM EDT
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Here are 6 targets from my load development today, shot with a Centurion Arms Mk12 Mod1 with Nightforce 2.5-10x24mm scope. Best group of .532" with average group of 1.120" (averaging all 6). I figured out what loads this rifle likes (going with 23.9gr Varget) and I will submit another target with 5 'like' load targets.
This was a little more difficult than I expected with the small 2.5-10x scope but was very fun nonetheless! Hopefully next time I can keep them all sub MOA!!! 
Groups shot with the front rifle... Off bipod with rear bag. 
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Posted: 9/24/2012 6:06:10 PM EDT
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I didn't feel like going out and printing yet another target. Most are just like this or better. UGSW Tikka .260. ...Snip... John Extremely impressive! Seriously that is incredible shooting! But just for the purpose of this challenge I can't add it due to it being a year old, no offense. Do a new set like that and post it and I think you may be hard to beat! No offense taken... I wasn't necessarily trying to "win", just trying to demonstrate what top-drawer rifles are truly capable of. With someone who really knows how to shoot, this is probably an honest .25-.3" rifle, but you saw the fliers... One thing I do find extremely interesting is how unaffected by load this rifle seems to be. I can basically pick any bullet and velocity node (within pressure limits of course) and it will pretty much shoot really close to that. The only load that shot poor was 140 Hybrids over RL17. If this barrel had more life in it, I'd be more inclined to go out and print an "official" target. But I rarely waste it on paper, especially at 100 yds, and I'm really hoping to make it through next year without rebarreling. I do load development at 5-600 yds. now so I can verify ES/vertical. I'm with you though. Lots of accuracy claims out there without much statistical follow through. In my experience there are not many "hunting rifles" that will print 25 sub-moa shots. There might be a few of the "off-the-shelf" tactical rifles with heavier barrels that can do it. I've seen some pretty impressive groups from the Tikka Tactical and Varmint rifles as well as the Remington's, but most of those were isolated and not 5 groups of five on a page. It definitely makes things real. I applaud the challenge. Let the data continue to come in. John Impressive shooting 
...That sandbag looks a little large given the rules though 
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Posted: 9/24/2012 6:09:59 PM EDT
[#46]
Update on page 1 for me.
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Posted: 9/24/2012 6:58:52 PM EDT
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And another shot at it haha
Division 22lr Iron Sights Gun: A different 10/22 (new production) with Notch sights CCI Mini Mags 36gr Copper JHP Position: Sitting on the ground with a sandbag on a stool Sun in my eyes but was able to use my hate to block the glare on the sights well enough but really, with Notch sights, I could barely see shit! 
Overall target 
Best Group 0.62 
Groups: 1.214" 0.876" 0.808" 0.698" 0.620" Average Groups 0.843" MOA 3.37 **I also tried this with Winchester Hi Velocity 36gr Copper JHP with worse results but for transparency here are the groups from that target** 1.652" 1.511" 1.011" 0.918" 0.753" Average group 1.169" MOA 4.676 |
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Posted: 9/24/2012 7:09:06 PM EDT
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And again but with my main 10/22
Division Iron SIght 22lr Gun 10/22 with Tech Sights CCI Mini Mag 36gr Copper JHP Position Sitting on ground with sandbag on a stool 
Overall target 
Best group 0.589 
Groups 0.949" 0.745" 0.667" 0.636" 0.589" Average group size 0.717 MOA 2.868 *I messed up on the paper so never mind that, not that it really changes the MOA much anyway* **I also did this again with the CCI Mini Mag 36gr CJHP with these groups** 1.027" 0.840" 0.753" 0.550" 0.511" Average 0.736" MOA 2.944 ***Also did it with Winchester Hi Velocity 36gr Copper JHP*** 1.386" 1.214" 1.230" 0.981" 0.386" (yes you read that right) Average 1.0394" MOA 4.157 But check out this group!!! 0.386" 
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Posted: 9/25/2012 8:02:16 PM EDT
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I'm in for this weekend...bolt gun and 50yd magnified optic .22LR classes for now. If the wind is calm I'll do 100yd magnified optic .22LR as well. Printing targets as we speak.
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Posted: 9/25/2012 8:07:45 PM EDT
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In for this weekend if the weather holds out.
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