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Link Posted: 9/25/2012 8:34:32 PM EST
[#1]
3 pages

6 attempts

3 achieved "1 MOA All Day Long"

And yes I own this
Link Posted: 9/27/2012 1:34:26 PM EST
[#2]
Is there any way would could get a PDF of sorts as an official ARFCOM target?  Something that is the standard for us to shoot at and has a BFL on it so when when we use them at the range we might meet a fellow arfcomer.  Offer them with and without BFL so you can play low key if you don't want basement dwellers bothering you at the range.
Link Posted: 9/27/2012 5:37:13 PM EST
[#3]
Tomorrow I shoot round 2... will probably submit another 6 group target though since it will also be going on 'the other site'!
Link Posted: 9/27/2012 6:31:14 PM EST
[#4]
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Is there any way would could get a PDF of sorts as an official ARFCOM target?  Something that is the standard for us to shoot at and has a BFL on it so when when we use them at the range we might meet a fellow arfcomer.  Offer them with and without BFL so you can play low key if you don't want basement dwellers bothering you at the range.


Interesting idea. I'll see what I can do.

ETA: I think I might ask Site Staff on that, it's a copy righted image yeah?
Link Posted: 9/27/2012 6:44:01 PM EST
[#5]
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Is there any way would could get a PDF of sorts as an official ARFCOM target?  Something that is the standard for us to shoot at and has a BFL on it so when when we use them at the range we might meet a fellow arfcomer.  Offer them with and without BFL so you can play low key if you don't want basement dwellers bothering you at the range.


Interesting idea. I'll see what I can do.


I hope you are able to do it.  I want to better my entry on "official" targets.
Link Posted: 9/27/2012 6:48:34 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/27/2012 6:52:43 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/27/2012 6:56:56 PM EST
[#8]
Tag
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 3:45:53 AM EST
[#9]
Quoted:
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Is there any way would could get a PDF of sorts as an official ARFCOM target?  Something that is the standard for us to shoot at and has a BFL on it so when when we use them at the range we might meet a fellow arfcomer.  Offer them with and without BFL so you can play low key if you don't want basement dwellers bothering you at the range.


Interesting idea. I'll see what I can do.

ETA: I think I might ask Site Staff on that, it's a copy righted image yeah?


Should be fine as long as you don't profit from it. Just don't try to charge for the .pdf

I can help make a target too. Just let me know what yall want. 5-6 squares, etc.

ETA I can email the target to somebody that knows how to upload a pdf.



ETA2

pdf here ––––––>  http://pdfcast.org/pdf/1-moa-all-day-target
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 5:04:55 AM EST
[#10]
Quoted:
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Is there any way would could get a PDF of sorts as an official ARFCOM target?  Something that is the standard for us to shoot at and has a BFL on it so when when we use them at the range we might meet a fellow arfcomer.  Offer them with and without BFL so you can play low key if you don't want basement dwellers bothering you at the range.


Interesting idea. I'll see what I can do.

ETA: I think I might ask Site Staff on that, it's a copy righted image yeah?


Should be fine as long as you don't profit from it. Just don't try to charge for the .pdf

I can help make a target too. Just let me know what yall want. 5-6 squares, etc.

ETA I can email the target to somebody that knows how to upload a pdf.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x287/23PISTOL23/1moaallday.jpg

ETA2

pdf here ––––––>  http://pdfcast.org/pdf/1-moa-all-day-target


Make one with 5 BFL's as targets, if possible, make the BFL's 1"
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 5:14:48 AM EST
[#11]
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Is there any way would could get a PDF of sorts as an official ARFCOM target?  Something that is the standard for us to shoot at and has a BFL on it so when when we use them at the range we might meet a fellow arfcomer.  Offer them with and without BFL so you can play low key if you don't want basement dwellers bothering you at the range.


Interesting idea. I'll see what I can do.

ETA: I think I might ask Site Staff on that, it's a copy righted image yeah?


Should be fine as long as you don't profit from it. Just don't try to charge for the .pdf

I can help make a target too. Just let me know what yall want. 5-6 squares, etc.

ETA I can email the target to somebody that knows how to upload a pdf.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x287/23PISTOL23/1moaallday.jpg

ETA2

pdf here ––––––>  http://pdfcast.org/pdf/1-moa-all-day-target


Make one with 5 BFL's as targets, if possible, make the BFL's 1"


That's kind of what I was thing. I did the two diamonds to give plenty of aiming references and very exact points of aim and be easy on printer ink.  A BFL would do the same.

Link Posted: 9/28/2012 5:42:58 AM EST
[#12]
My Attempt, but I need a higher res BFL.



download link
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 5:52:28 AM EST
[#13]
Quoted:
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Is there any way would could get a PDF of sorts as an official ARFCOM target?  Something that is the standard for us to shoot at and has a BFL on it so when when we use them at the range we might meet a fellow arfcomer.  Offer them with and without BFL so you can play low key if you don't want basement dwellers bothering you at the range.


Interesting idea. I'll see what I can do.

ETA: I think I might ask Site Staff on that, it's a copy righted image yeah?


Should be fine as long as you don't profit from it. Just don't try to charge for the .pdf

I can help make a target too. Just let me know what yall want. 5-6 squares, etc.

ETA I can email the target to somebody that knows how to upload a pdf.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x287/23PISTOL23/1moaallday.jpg

ETA2

pdf here ––––––>  http://pdfcast.org/pdf/1-moa-all-day-target


Make one with 5 BFL's as targets, if possible, make the BFL's 1"


That's kind of what I was thing. I did the two diamonds to give plenty of aiming references and very exact points of aim and be easy on printer ink.  A BFL would do the same.





pdf ––-> http://pdfcast.org/pdf/target-2

Link Posted: 9/28/2012 5:53:36 AM EST
[#14]


BFL's could be bigger for the 50 yard irons. But that's a good template for sure.
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 5:55:44 AM EST
[#15]
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BFL's could be bigger for the 50 yard irons. But that's a good template for sure.


Yeah, I was bored and was just playing with Paint.
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 5:58:10 AM EST
[#16]
nice targets!
buisy installing a boiler and shed...but will take out the 10/22 today and
hopefully the .260 in the next day or two.
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 6:01:02 AM EST
[#17]
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 6:02:26 AM EST
[#18]


I don't mind at all. I had to google how to upload a pdf.

ETA just printed one of mine off and it measures 1/16" less than an inch.
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 6:05:51 AM EST
[#19]
I you guys don't mind I'll update the OP with these links for download.
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 6:06:36 AM EST
[#20]
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I you guys don't mind I'll update the OP with these links for download.


Go for it.
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 8:21:02 AM EST
[#21]
Updated with those target PDF's.
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 5:33:28 PM EST
[#22]
Didn't have the new targets to shoot, so I shot the old style... next time though it will be all BFL!!!

Shot with my Centurion Mk12 Mod1 with Nightforce 2.5-10x24mm again...



Shooting didn't go as well as I thought, I was a little rushed due to the setting sun but look forward to trying it again soon.

Targets (best 5 of the 6)
1.042"
.981"
1.096"
.834"
1.238"

For an average of 1.038" (just squeezed it in!)




The sun was setting fast and that small 24mm objective was really limiting the dusk shooting so I need to go out again soon to finish this up (hoping for .75" average all said and done!)

Thanks again for the fun little 'competition', even if only 3 of us are playing...
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 5:35:25 PM EST
[#23]
I also want to recommend adding a 50 yard NVG/IR Laser class to it... was shooting my Block II with my IR laser and I thought it would be a very fun little challenge, and unique to boot!
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 5:47:08 PM EST
[#24]
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I also want to recommend adding a 50 yard NVG/IR Laser class to it... was shooting my Block II with my IR laser and I thought it would be a very fun little challenge, and unique to boot!


How would that even work! Can you see well enough to even make a good attempt? I have never used IR, so I really don't know much about how you see it, you know, other then video games
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 5:55:32 PM EST
[#25]
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I also want to recommend adding a 50 yard NVG/IR Laser class to it... was shooting my Block II with my IR laser and I thought it would be a very fun little challenge, and unique to boot!


How would that even work! Can you see well enough to even make a good attempt? I have never used IR, so I really don't know much about how you see it, you know, other then video games


Shot some tonight at 50 yards... probably around 3-4 MOA at best. The key is a good illuminator paired with a IR laser, it really helps you dial in the dot without washing out the target. Also a larger target (4" at 50 yards) doesn't hurt!

I'll take some video one of these times to post, it's pretty cool!
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 5:56:55 PM EST
[#26]
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I also want to recommend adding a 50 yard NVG/IR Laser class to it... was shooting my Block II with my IR laser and I thought it would be a very fun little challenge, and unique to boot!


How would that even work! Can you see well enough to even make a good attempt? I have never used IR, so I really don't know much about how you see it, you know, other then video games


Shot some tonight at 50 yards... probably around 3-4 MOA at best. The key is a good illuminator paired with a IR laser, it really helps you dial in the dot without washing out the target. Also a larger target (4" at 50 yards) doesn't hurt!

I'll take some video one of these times to post, it's pretty cool!


Yeah that sounds cool. Put up your best and throw it up, if their is any interest I'll add it to the list.
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 6:03:40 PM EST
[#27]
Don't forget to add my latest target
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 7:12:31 PM EST
[#28]
In for later.
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 7:20:30 PM EST
[#29]
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Don't forget to add my latest target


Same gun right?

Only the best goes up unless you use a different gun in the same division.

Your last average was like 0.965", you set a high standard for yourself
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 8:05:01 PM EST
[#30]
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I also want to recommend adding a 50 yard NVG/IR Laser class to it... was shooting my Block II with my IR laser and I thought it would be a very fun little challenge, and unique to boot!


How would that even work! Can you see well enough to even make a good attempt? I have never used IR, so I really don't know much about how you see it, you know, other then video games


Shot some tonight at 50 yards... probably around 3-4 MOA at best. The key is a good illuminator paired with a IR laser, it really helps you dial in the dot without washing out the target. Also a larger target (4" at 50 yards) doesn't hurt!

I'll take some video one of these times to post, it's pretty cool!


Yeah that sounds cool. Put up your best and throw it up, if their is any interest I'll add it to the list.


An IR chemlight should make  a nice aiming point if you don't want to fuss with the illuminator.  
Link Posted: 9/28/2012 8:12:34 PM EST
[#31]
We did this last year in ARF SPESHUL GROUP we all averaged over 12 MOA or around 3 -3 .5 inches at 25 yards  Some of us had some good groups but we all had some real dogs that opened it up.]

ETA it was standing unsupported with 22 lrs
Link Posted: 9/30/2012 7:19:30 AM EST
[#32]
I'm in.  Will try this with my Bushmaster Varminter and Marlin Mod 60.  Both have done sub MOA groups in the past.  Should be fun!
Link Posted: 9/30/2012 12:39:33 PM EST
[#33]
Cool thread guys!

I decided to go out and give it a shot today. I went old school with the first gun I ever owned (mostly because it's a .22 and I try not to rile up the neighbors too much when shooting near our house).

Division: 22lr magnified @  50 yards (measured with tape)

Rifle:Ruger M77/22 with Tasco Silver Antler 3-9X with knock-off Harris bi-pod.

Ammo: Winchester 550-round value pack 36 grain HP

Position: Prone, using Tac-Snug sleeved sniper-blanket and Hot-Seat tactical hunting cushion for stock/elbow rest.



Results:





Group sizes:

.784"
.842"
.595" - Best
.768"
.965"


Final average: .7908" or 1.51 MOA

Close, but no cigar! I think I might be able to best this using higher quality ammo. Next time I go to the real range, I think I'll have to break out big brother with .308 handloads and get it done right.
Link Posted: 9/30/2012 1:17:27 PM EST
[#34]
Updated
Link Posted: 9/30/2012 2:06:36 PM EST
[#35]
Here's my entry... for now... I'll be back...

ETA individual group sizes:


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Link Posted: 9/30/2012 3:17:06 PM EST
[#36]
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Here's mine.

Rifle is a Rem 700 Police in .308.   Scope is a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-32x40.   Ammo was handloads, 175gr SMK BTHP on top of 41.0 grains of H4895, Lapua brass.   First time shooting this load in this rifle.   Groups were shot from prone with a bipod at 100 yards.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff35/kemays/rifle-1_zps43973325.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff35/kemays/target-1_zps18f17782.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff35/kemays/target-2_zps6514bea5.jpg

Group sizes were written on target after subtracting .308

1.314
1.292
1.437
1.127
0.792

Average: 1.19",  1.19 MOA

I haven't touched this rifle, except to move it around in the safe, for the past 5 years.  I called just about every shot on the paper.   I have no doubt that if this gun were in a vise, it would punch group after group with all rounds touching.

This was the second target I shot.  The first was a sighting target to make sure my scope was dialed in.


Nice setup, looks like mine, using an older 24" bbl with Burris 6x18 peep plex.



Link Posted: 9/30/2012 4:09:55 PM EST
[#37]
I tried today with a Remington 700 in .223 topped with a Leopold MK4.  It's my first "precision" rifle so I wasn't excepting much.  I used my handloads(just got into that thanks to DoubleAron). My groups averaged maybe 1.75 in(this shooting shit is hard).  First time out, I'll get it soon I hope.  Cool thread OP.
Link Posted: 9/30/2012 4:17:32 PM EST
[#38]
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I tried today with a Remington 700 in .223 topped with a Leopold MK4.  It's my first "precision" rifle so I wasn't excepting much.  I used my handloads(just got into that thanks to DoubleAron). My groups averaged maybe 1.75 in(this shooting shit is hard).  First time out, I'll get it soon I hope.  Cool thread OP.


Time to pick up the slack

Us Iowans need to represent!
Link Posted: 9/30/2012 4:19:49 PM EST
[#39]
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I tried today with a Remington 700 in .223 topped with a Leopold MK4.  It's my first "precision" rifle so I wasn't excepting much.  I used my handloads(just got into that thanks to DoubleAron). My groups averaged maybe 1.75 in(this shooting shit is hard).  First time out, I'll get it soon I hope.  Cool thread OP.


Time to pick up the slack

Us Iowans need to represent!


You need to clean out your inbox!
Link Posted: 9/30/2012 4:21:58 PM EST
[#40]
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I tried today with a Remington 700 in .223 topped with a Leopold MK4.  It's my first "precision" rifle so I wasn't excepting much.  I used my handloads(just got into that thanks to DoubleAron). My groups averaged maybe 1.75 in(this shooting shit is hard).  First time out, I'll get it soon I hope.  Cool thread OP.


Time to pick up the slack

Us Iowans need to represent!


You need to clean out your inbox!


AAAAAAAND done!
Link Posted: 9/30/2012 6:43:18 PM EST
[#41]
figured have a few more with the weekend







bipods and rucks are a little different from 2 sandbags  


the 5 groups on one paper keeps um honest





Seems to be a patten here ( pun intended ) , me included


nice group


nice group


OK group


Sorta OK group


Shitty group
 
Link Posted: 9/30/2012 6:51:23 PM EST
[#42]
Quoted:
figured have a few more with the weekend



bipods and rucks are a little different from 2 sandbags  
the 5 groups on one paper keeps um honest

Seems to be a patten here ( pun intended ) , me included
nice group
nice group
OK group
Sorta OK group
Shitty group




 




It's so true!!!
Link Posted: 9/30/2012 7:01:09 PM EST
[#43]



Quoted:



Quoted:

figured have a few more with the weekend







bipods and rucks are a little different from 2 sandbags  

the 5 groups on one paper keeps um honest



Seems to be a patten here ( pun intended ) , me included

nice group

nice group

OK group

Sorta OK group

Shitty group
 








It's so true!!!


I want to try this with my .458 or .416 as both shoot very well  (for 3 shots anyway)  but pretty sure 25 rds from the bench in 1 sitting would cause a stroke or blindness or something  



 
Link Posted: 9/30/2012 7:11:29 PM EST
[#44]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
figured have a few more with the weekend



bipods and rucks are a little different from 2 sandbags  
the 5 groups on one paper keeps um honest

Seems to be a patten here ( pun intended ) , me included
nice group
nice group
OK group
Sorta OK group
Shitty group




 




It's so true!!!

I want to try this with my .458 or .416 as both shoot very well  (for 3 shots anyway)  but pretty sure 25 rds from the bench in 1 sitting would cause a stroke or blindness or something  
 


But I bet it's neva ben dun befo
Link Posted: 9/30/2012 7:46:15 PM EST
[#45]
Looking forward to trying some of this next range visit!
Link Posted: 10/3/2012 2:35:04 PM EST
[#46]


I got a chance to head to the range today.  This time, I had the appropriate target.  



My rifle currently has two pieces of foam somewhat duck taped to it.  But, it shoots like a house on fire.  

The groups measure:

0.892
0.785
0.688
0.656
0.372

That's an average of 0.6786.

The rifle is a .308 National Match Winchester Model 70.  I was using 168 grain reloads.  The optic is a first focal plane Bushnell 6-24x.  

I shot the rifle fast enough that heavy mirage was coming off the barrel.  I could use a mirage band.  

The middle group was to help fine tune the zero.  

Link Posted: 10/3/2012 4:49:39 PM EST
[#47]
Nice shooting.  However I think you would need to round that last digit up, if I remember my math correctly.  Either way, you did better than I have done.
Link Posted: 10/3/2012 5:07:02 PM EST
[#48]
Quoted:
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y444/AR-180/Challenge2003_zps3c1d5d86.jpg

I got a chance to head to the range today.  This time, I had the appropriate target.  

http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y444/AR-180/Challenge2002_zpsaf6126e5.jpg

My rifle currently has two pieces of foam somewhat duck taped to it.  But, it shoots like a house on fire.  

The groups measure:

0.892
0.785
0.688
0.656
0.372

That's an average of 0.6786.



Bravo!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/3/2012 6:08:06 PM EST
[#49]



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... NO SHOOTING JACKETS


... this has to be a typo, right?

 




Nope, not everyone has a shooting jacket, this isn't Highpower the rules are setup to limit certain items to make for as level a field as possible.
No shooting jackets in prone but you can use a sandbag because you want people to be in complete control of the rifle.  Doesn't make any sense what so ever.
 
Link Posted: 10/3/2012 6:16:00 PM EST
[#50]
I will hopefully be able to attempt my go with it soon. Trying to get over a infected abscessed tooth, and then got to have it pulled. I did get my scope mounted up and fired a few rounds to dial it in. Cheek wield was a major problem with my face swelled up though. lol Swelling is pretty much gone now. I found about 30 rounds of my better ammo, with the same #41 primers and same powder charge. Gonna try and find enough for the test. It will be fun for sure.

Lot's of good shooting here so far.
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