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Posted: 2/21/2013 8:05:09 PM EDT
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Very disappointed in both ArmaLite and Magpul. They were 2 of my favorites.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 8:10:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2013 8:27:07 PM EDT
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glad someone posted this, ive been wondering who I should give my business to
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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:35:55 AM EDT
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The answer is yes, our Distributors are allowed to sell to LEOs in ban states. Our founder has also said regarding LEO restrictions, "We have not considered such a move as we are not convinced that this tactic will have any effect on those in power (they will just buy Israeli or some other generic parts). It also adversely punishes street cops, local sheriffs and individual military members for the actions of those in power. The last thing we want to do is hurt those who support our cause." So, we see that we can support Law Enforcement and Military members while standing up for our convictions and will continue to do everything in our power to protect our inherent rights. Keep in mind this is pretty much exactly what Armalite said and people are trying to crucify them. I imagine almost all the big manufacturers will have the same policy. Lets see how people react now |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 1:09:30 PM EDT
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CMMG
CMMG, INC. ANNOUNCES NEW POLICY ON STATE REGULATION OF FIREARMS The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and all law abiding gun owners in our country are currently under assault. Since the horrible tragedy in Connecticut, politicians and media alike are actively demonizing and criminalizing citizens of these great United States who are exercising their rights under the Second Amendment. The emotional responses and decisions being made right now are extremely dangerous and short sighted. As individual states elect to pass more restrictive gun laws, CMMG will adhere to each state’s regulations. However, CMMG has made a policy decision that it will not supply products to law enforcement agencies in states that have enacted legislation preventing individual citizens from owning similar firearms. CMMG will no longer provide these agencies with firearms, magazines or any other products that are restricted or no longer available to civilians. CMMG will not stand by on the sidelines and let America’s rights be stripped away. CMMG will not support states that have police departments and law enforcement agencies arming themselves with firearms and weapons that are not available to law abiding citizens. CMMG does not believe in separate classes of citizens and will not engage in sales to states that enact legislation promoting that belief. CMMG will, however, make exceptions to police departments and law enforcement agencies that have taken a public stand refusing to recognize or enforce unconstitutional firearm restrictions. Agencies making this stand are putting their careers on the line to take a constitutional stand for all Americans as fellow citizens. Abraham Lincoln spoke on June 16, 1858, and stated that "a house divided against itself cannot stand;” CMMG supports those who support our freedom. CMMG, as industry partners, and gun owners (including law enforcement agencies), need to stand up and stand together to counter this assault on our freedom and our constitutional rights. The Constitution is the supreme legal authority in our land, and we are bound by its words. It states in the Preamble that it was written to "form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.” The Founding Fathers agreed the best way to establish this was through the Bill of Rights which includes the Second Amendment. Let us take this stand together, unified, to continue allowing this country to be the beacon of freedom to the world. |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 1:21:36 PM EDT
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CMMG
CMMG, INC. ANNOUNCES NEW POLICY ON STATE REGULATION OF FIREARMS
The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and all law abiding gun owners in our country are currently under assault. Since the horrible tragedy in Connecticut, politicians and media alike are actively demonizing and criminalizing citizens of these great United States who are exercising their rights under the Second Amendment. The emotional responses and decisions being made right now are extremely dangerous and short sighted. As individual states elect to pass more restrictive gun laws, CMMG will adhere to each state’s regulations. However, CMMG has made a policy decision that it will not supply products to law enforcement agencies in states that have enacted legislation preventing individual citizens from owning similar firearms. CMMG will no longer provide these agencies with firearms, magazines or any other products that are restricted or no longer available to civilians. CMMG will not stand by on the sidelines and let America’s rights be stripped away. CMMG will not support states that have police departments and law enforcement agencies arming themselves with firearms and weapons that are not available to law abiding citizens. CMMG does not believe in separate classes of citizens and will not engage in sales to states that enact legislation promoting that belief. CMMG will, however, make exceptions to police departments and law enforcement agencies that have taken a public stand refusing to recognize or enforce unconstitutional firearm restrictions. Agencies making this stand are putting their careers on the line to take a constitutional stand for all Americans as fellow citizens. Abraham Lincoln spoke on June 16, 1858, and stated that "a house divided against itself cannot stand;” CMMG supports those who support our freedom. CMMG, as industry partners, and gun owners (including law enforcement agencies), need to stand up and stand together to counter this assault on our freedom and our constitutional rights. The Constitution is the supreme legal authority in our land, and we are bound by its words. It states in the Preamble that it was written to "form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.” The Founding Fathers agreed the best way to establish this was through the Bill of Rights which includes the Second Amendment. Let us take this stand together, unified, to continue allowing this country to be the beacon of freedom to the world. |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 1:21:47 PM EDT
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THIS NEEDS TO BE A STICKY!!!
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Posted: 2/22/2013 1:31:03 PM EDT
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THIS NEEDS TO BE A STICKY!!! +1 |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 1:32:47 PM EDT
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Yes should be a sticky.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 1:37:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/22/2013 1:39:23 PM EDT
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THIS NEEDS TO BE A STICKY!!! +1 |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 2:03:10 PM EDT
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The answer is yes, our Distributors are allowed to sell to LEOs in ban states. Our founder has also said regarding LEO restrictions, "We have not considered such a move as we are not convinced that this tactic will have any effect on those in power (they will just buy Israeli or some other generic parts). It also adversely punishes street cops, local sheriffs and individual military members for the actions of those in power. The last thing we want to do is hurt those who support our cause." So, we see that we can support Law Enforcement and Military members while standing up for our convictions and will continue to do everything in our power to protect our inherent rights. Keep in mind this is pretty much exactly what Armalite said and people are trying to crucify them. I imagine almost all the big manufacturers will have the same policy. Lets see how people react now They are too big to fail 
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Posted: 2/22/2013 2:06:33 PM EDT
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Yes should be a sticky. This! |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 2:32:44 PM EDT
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Yes should be a sticky. This! x87 |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 2:39:57 PM EDT
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CTD??? You're joking right?  No, andand they have been doing for at least 3 months. Their was a thread back in early or mid december where an LE armorer was whining because CTD would not sell his agency pmags. |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 2:44:11 PM EDT
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CMMG and Controlled Chaos Arms are now on the list
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Posted: 2/22/2013 2:44:40 PM EDT
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CTD??? You're joking right? No, andand they have been doing for at least 3 months. Their was a thread back in early or mid december where an LE armorer was whining because CTD would not sell his agency pmags. Plus they donated $100,000 to the second amendment foundation. |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 3:03:45 PM EDT
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Just read this. Yes it seems this is taking off a bit.
http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/firearms-companies-restricting-sales-government-agencies-areas |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 3:32:58 PM EDT
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BRAVO COMPANY!!!!!!!!!!
From their website... Our stance on the 2nd Amendment.
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." The founding fathers made the right to keep and bear arms second only to the freedom of speech in the Bill of Rights. Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, George Mason, Samuel Adams and so many others, labored tirelessly to create a new nation with laws free from the tyranny of the old country. A place where the government would represent the people, not repress them. As Americans, we have the luxury of living in a developed society where we can develop ourselves through education and critical debate. We have a responsibility to question ideas and confront issues that we have a stake in as citizens of this nation, be that the rights of yourselves or the rights of others when threatened by the state. Firearms are, first and foremost, a tool to secure your life and the lives of others, against any aggressor. The people at Bravo Company USA and BCM support responsible private individuals having access to the same tools of civilian Law Enforcement to affect the same ends. Securing and defending ourselves, our loved ones and innocent people if the situation arises. As such Bravo Company's policy is that law enforcement officials and departments will be restricted to the same type of products available to responsible private individuals of that same city or state. |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 3:43:26 PM EDT
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Just read this. Yes it seems this is taking off a bit. http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/firearms-companies-restricting-sales-government-agencies-areas Top of Drudge 
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Posted: 2/22/2013 3:51:48 PM EDT
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Very disappointed in both ArmaLite and Magpul. They were 2 of my favorites. My backorder at DSG will be the last Magpul product I buy. Sorry fellas, but you chose to side with the gun grabbers. Simple as that. |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 3:53:17 PM EDT
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BRAVO COMPANY!!!!!!!!!! From their website... Our stance on the 2nd Amendment.
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." The founding fathers made the right to keep and bear arms second only to the freedom of speech in the Bill of Rights. Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, George Mason, Samuel Adams and so many others, labored tirelessly to create a new nation with laws free from the tyranny of the old country. A place where the government would represent the people, not repress them. As Americans, we have the luxury of living in a developed society where we can develop ourselves through education and critical debate. We have a responsibility to question ideas and confront issues that we have a stake in as citizens of this nation, be that the rights of yourselves or the rights of others when threatened by the state. Firearms are, first and foremost, a tool to secure your life and the lives of others, against any aggressor. The people at Bravo Company USA and BCM support responsible private individuals having access to the same tools of civilian Law Enforcement to affect the same ends. Securing and defending ourselves, our loved ones and innocent people if the situation arises. As such Bravo Company's policy is that law enforcement officials and departments will be restricted to the same type of products available to responsible private individuals of that same city or state. But what about the individual officers? |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 4:02:15 PM EDT
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Add Lauer Custom Weaponry (DuraCoat Firearms Finishes) to the list.
From their Facebook page: Lauer Custom Weaponry’s statement on the defense of liberty
February 22, 2013 As a result of unlawful legislation in the State of New York, LCW Manufacturing DBA Lauer Custom Weaponry will no longer arm any New York State government agency or employee thereof. We will not assist, through the supplying of firearms and accessories, in what we believe to be the continued criminal and tyrannical takeover of the State of New York. We will apply the same attitude toward any other state that passes unlawful legislation that violates the rights and will of the people. The subversion of the natural rights of the people must be stopped. Manufacturers, dealers, and every citizen of this great nation must stand together in the fight for liberty. Our rights, as endowed by our Creator, are powerful yet fragile. They must be protected by vigilant citizens against the intentional destruction of them by sinister gangs of thugs. These criminals’ so-called “laws” and political schemes must be halted and prevented. If we as citizens of this great nation are to continue to live free and prosperous, we must stand strong for the liberties and rights given to us at birth and protected by our Constitution. Steven M. Lauer, Owner American Entrepreneur |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 4:04:31 PM EDT
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BRAVO COMPANY!!!!!!!!!! From their website... Our stance on the 2nd Amendment.
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." The founding fathers made the right to keep and bear arms second only to the freedom of speech in the Bill of Rights. Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, George Mason, Samuel Adams and so many others, labored tirelessly to create a new nation with laws free from the tyranny of the old country. A place where the government would represent the people, not repress them. As Americans, we have the luxury of living in a developed society where we can develop ourselves through education and critical debate. We have a responsibility to question ideas and confront issues that we have a stake in as citizens of this nation, be that the rights of yourselves or the rights of others when threatened by the state. Firearms are, first and foremost, a tool to secure your life and the lives of others, against any aggressor. The people at Bravo Company USA and BCM support responsible private individuals having access to the same tools of civilian Law Enforcement to affect the same ends. Securing and defending ourselves, our loved ones and innocent people if the situation arises. As such Bravo Company's policy is that law enforcement officials and departments will be restricted to the same type of products available to responsible private individuals of that same city or state. But what about the individual officers? "Law enforcement officials" |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 5:21:12 PM EDT
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Those that enforce unconstitutional laws do not need your support. If you give them yours I am afraid you no longer have mine. The answer is yes, our Distributors are allowed to sell to LEOs in ban states. Our founder has also said regarding LEO restrictions, "We have not considered such a move as we are not convinced that this tactic will have any effect on those in power (they will just buy Israeli or some other generic parts). It also adversely punishes street cops, local sheriffs and individual military members for the actions of those in power. The last thing we want to do is hurt those who support our cause." So, we see that we can support Law Enforcement and Military members while standing up for our convictions and will continue to do everything in our power to protect our inherent rights. The fact that you would sell your product to those that would arrest otherwise law abiding people for possessing your product is disappointing in the extreme. Please reconsider.
First time post. Been lurking for quite a while. I can't agree more with the bolded part above. I sent an email to ArmaLite just yesterday explaining this very thing. Now I'm extremely disappointed to see Magpul take a similar stance. Hell....between me an a few other friends, two days ago we took delivery of 300 Pmags which were ordered back in December. Looks like that will be my final order. Like someone else posted....I don't really need Magpul products. Officially done with them. |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 6:12:11 PM EDT
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ARE YOU WITH US? OR AGAINST US!
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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:40:32 PM EDT
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Here is a company ... or two ... maybe couple more 
Just in case, if somebody wants to send more emails. http://www.armsvault.com/ |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:16:06 PM EDT
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I'm really disappointed in Magpuls response. Its a very difficult situation with many variables, its one of those things that you can't make everyone happy BUT at a minimum stopping direct sales to LE in ban States is the right thing to do. I applaud Magpul fighting the draconian proposals in Colorado, BUT their position is riding the fence.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:16:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/22/2013 11:20:00 PM EDT
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I hope Magpul is monitoring this thread because I will also no longer buy their products. I may also go so far as not ordering anything from any suppliers that carry their product. And they thought Colorado politicians was their worst enemy... they may regret the day they took their current position.
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Posted: 2/23/2013 6:03:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2013 2:17:56 PM EDT
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http://www.thepoliceloophole.com/
AmmoClip www.ammoclip.com Website Long Standing Extreme Firepower Inc, LLC www.extremefirepower.com Website Long Standing Cheaper Than Dirt www.cheaperthandirt.com Facebook Long Standing MidwayUSA www.midwayusa.com Twitter Long Standing Barrett www.barrett.net Website Long Standing Old Grouch's Military Surplus www.oldgrouch.com Facebook 2013-01-15 Predator Intelligence www.predatorarmament.com Facebook 2013-02-01 LaRue Tactical www.laruetactical.com Facebook 2013-02-08 Olympic Arms www.olyarms.com Facebook 2013-02-12 Currently applies to New York State only Templar Custom www.templarcustom.com Facebook 2013-02-13 Currently applies to New York State only York Arms www.yorkarms.com Website 2013-02 Currently applies to New York State only Bullwater Enterprises LLC www.aandtfirearms.com Facebook 2013-02-16 dba A & T Firearms West Fork Armory www.westforkarmory.com Facebook 2013-02-16 Currently applies to New York State only Iron Goat Guns www.irongoatguns.com Website 2013-02-16 Trident Armory www.tridentarmory.net Facebook 2013-02-17 Smith Enterprise, Inc www.smithenterprise.com Website 2013-02-17 Currently applies to New York State only Alex Arms www.alexarms.com Website 2013-02-17 OFA Tactical www.ochsnergroup.com Facebook 2013-02-17 Spike's Tactical www.spikestactical.com Facebook 2013-02-18 Quality Arms Idaho www.qualityarmsidaho.com Website 2013-02-19 Liberty Suppressors www.libertycans.net Facebook 2013-02-19 Currently applies to New York State only Doublestar Corp www.star15.com Facebook 2013-02-19 American Spirit Arms www.americanspiritarms.com YouTube 2013-02-19 Tactical Solutions www.tacticalsol.com Website 2013-02-20 Currently applies to New York State only Head Down Products, LLC www.headdownproducts.com Facebook 2013-02-20 Currently applies to New York State only Exile Machine www.exilemachine.net Website 2013-02 J&G Sales, Ltd www.jgsales.com Facebook 2013-02-20 Bravo Company USA www.bravocompanyusa.com Website 2013-02-20 ACE LTD. www.riflestocks.com Website 2013-02-20 Kiss Tactical www.kisstactical.com Facebook 2013-02-20 NEMO Arms, Inc www.nemoarms.com Facebook 2013-02-21 Currently applies to New York State only Top Gun Supply www.topgunsupply.com Facebook 2013-02-21 Red Jacket Firearms www.redjacketfirearms.com Facebook 2013-02-21 Rock River Arms www.rockriverarms.com Website 2013-02-21 Currently applies to New York State only Badger Peak www.badgerpeak.com Facebook 2013-02-22 Controlled Chaos Arms www.controlledchaosarms.com Facebook 2013-02-22 Big Horn Armory www.bighornarmory.com Facebook 2013-02-22 One Source Tactical www.onesourcetactical.com Website 2013-02-22 CMMG www.cmmginc.com Facebook 2013-02-22 SRT Arms www.srtarms.com Website 2013-02-22 Norton Firearms www.nortonfirearms.com Website 2013-02-22 Umlaut Industries LLC www.umlautarms.com Facebook 2013-02-22 Warbirds Custom Guns www.warbirdscustomguns.com Website 2013-02-22 JABTAC www.jabtac.com Website 2013-02-22 Stoner Arms www.stonerarms.com Facebook 2013-02-22 3 Rivers Precision LLC www.3riversprecision.com Facebook 2013-02-22 2A Firearms www.2afirearmsdealer.com Facebook 2013-02-22 Lanco Tactical LLC www.lancotactical.com Facebook 2013-02-22 Predator Tactical www.predatortactical.com Website 2013-02-23 Rhino Arms LLC www.rhinoarmsllc.com Website 2013-02-23 Total Companies: 50 |
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Posted: 2/23/2013 2:55:26 PM EDT
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Considering how many "big name" companies on there, I can't believe Magpul is taking the stance they are. Especially when they are on the verge of getting kicked out of their own state. Just.....
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Posted: 2/23/2013 3:05:04 PM EDT
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Considering how many "big name" companies on there, I can't believe Magpul is taking the stance they are. Especially when they are on the verge of getting kicked out of their own state. Just..... Midway is probably the biggest on that list. While Barrett, Spikes, and the like are well known they are not very big compared to Armalite, Colt, Bushmaster. |
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Posted: 2/23/2013 4:31:19 PM EDT
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Have they and do they continue to sell and allow their distributors to sell to LEOs and departments in ban states? Yes or no. It's simple really.
There is a statement out there where they said they are moving whether there is a manufacturing clause or not. Richard Fitzpatrick, Founder, President, and CEO of Magpul Industries, said that regardless of any amendments that may be worked into the bill, he will no longer be able to continue to do business in Colorado if his core product is made illegal.
"Our company could not, in good conscience, continue to manufacture our products in a state where law-abiding citizens are prohibited from purchasing and owning them. ” ETA: Standard capacity Pmags are also banned for civilians in Denver and have been for years. The answer is yes, our Distributors are allowed to sell to LEOs in ban states. Our founder has also said regarding LEO restrictions, "We have not considered such a move as we are not convinced that this tactic will have any effect on those in power (they will just buy Israeli or some other generic parts). It also adversely punishes street cops, local sheriffs and individual military members for the actions of those in power. The last thing we want to do is hurt those who support our cause." So, we see that we can support Law Enforcement and Military members while standing up for our convictions and will continue to do everything in our power to protect our inherent rights. So basically you are saying that if you don't sell to them they will just buy from another company and you don't want to lose the sale. 
Wish I didn't just spend around $200 buying every Magpul product I could to put on my first AR along with a few hundred dollars on 35 Pmags. Won't be spending another penny on Magpul. 
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Posted: 2/23/2013 5:00:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2013 6:00:10 PM EDT
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no need for the move magpul,if your just going to sell the whoever anyway.. very disappointed in you,
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Posted: 2/23/2013 7:10:32 PM EDT
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Looks like Baretta may step up to the plate in MD. Link left cold.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/berettas-future-in-maryland-tied-to-states-gun-control-debate/2013/02/23/bcc56c62-7776-11e2-95e4-6148e45d7adb_story.html |
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Posted: 2/23/2013 7:13:55 PM EDT
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Looks like Baretta may step up to the plate in MD. Link left cold. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/berettas-future-in-maryland-tied-to-states-gun-control-debate/2013/02/23/bcc56c62-7776-11e2-95e4-6148e45d7adb_story.html damn it, I don't like the way their handguns feel, if they do this then I will have to eat crow and buy a nasty92 |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:49:35 AM EDT
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TAGGED!!
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Posted: 2/24/2013 9:02:53 AM EDT
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Looks like Baretta may step up to the plate in MD. Link left cold. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/berettas-future-in-maryland-tied-to-states-gun-control-debate/2013/02/23/bcc56c62-7776-11e2-95e4-6148e45d7adb_story.html Thats what I am talking about. We need the big boys to step up to the plate |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 9:12:08 AM EDT
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Magpul's response is disheartening. I thought--perhaps to my ignorance--that Magpul never said whether they would still sell to individual .gov officials...needless to say they will. Great products, but no friend of mine.
I am liking the language I see from the companies run by true patriots, not those that cop out and compromise in an attempt to land on both sides of the fence. If we are not all in this together, feeling the same pain, then the cause is for nothing. Sad that Magpul has drawn the lines that it has. |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 9:51:58 AM EDT
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2A-Armament is on board....
http://www.facebook.com/pages/2A-Armament/229641320390038 We don't sell directly to LE, but have worked in the past on special projects. What we will not do is supply those manufacturers with augmented machining services of product, who choose to support those in BAN states. It's not much we can do, but I feel the statement of doing so is worth the effort. It is what we believe as a company. With current regulations and laws being pushed in states such as New York and California that limit the rights of the people, 2A-Armament has decided to stand next to its brothers in the firearms manufacturing industry. Knowing that all men are created equal, it has become evident that some are more equal than others by way of regulations that usurp the very Constitution we took an oath to protect. Our name alone reflects what our company stands for.
Effective immediately, 2A-Armament will not sell its product, manufacturing time, or machine time to those States, Agencies, Departments, or individual officers who seek to strip the people of the United States of their Constitutional rights. We encourage other manufacturers to take the same course of action. 2A-armament will not provide the tools to those who wish to use them against the very people who make up these United States of America. Ryan Jacobson Co-owner/operator 2A-Armament |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 9:57:44 AM EDT
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Huntertown Arms is on board and won't sell to LEO in banned states.
http://www.huntertownarms.com/ Your can. Your way. No compromise. The owners and employees of Huntertown Arms join others in our industry to denounce the unconscionable assault on the God-given right to self defense. Our Founders plainly and clearly expressed the People's right to keep and bear arms in the United States Constitution. Unfortunately, "Shall not be infringed" seems to be too many words for so many to understand. Effective immediately, we will no longer sell or service any Huntertown Arms products to any law enforcement or governmental agency in any state or locale that would deny those same products to law-abiding citizens within their communities. We look forward to the day when when this policy will be repealed. |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:10:37 AM EDT
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2A-Armament is on board.... http://www.facebook.com/pages/2A-Armament/229641320390038 We don't sell directly to LE, but have worked in the past on special projects. What we will not do is supply those manufacturers with augmented machining services of product, who choose to support those in BAN states. It's not much we can do, but I feel the statement of doing so is worth the effort. It is what we believe as a company. With current regulations and laws being pushed in states such as New York and California that limit the rights of the people, 2A-Armament has decided to stand next to its brothers in the firearms manufacturing industry. Knowing that all men are created equal, it has become evident that some are more equal than others by way of regulations that usurp the very Constitution we took an oath to protect. Our name alone reflects what our company stands for.
Effective immediately, 2A-Armament will not sell its product, manufacturing time, or machine time to those States, Agencies, Departments, or individual officers who seek to strip the people of the United States of their Constitutional rights. We encourage other manufacturers to take the same course of action. 2A-armament will not provide the tools to those who wish to use them against the very people who make up these United States of America. Ryan Jacobson Co-owner/operator 2A-Armament thank you |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:11:02 AM EDT
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Looks like Baretta may step up to the plate in MD. Link left cold. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/berettas-future-in-maryland-tied-to-states-gun-control-debate/2013/02/23/bcc56c62-7776-11e2-95e4-6148e45d7adb_story.html  May have to consider a beretta product next time. Maybe the ARX if it ever becomes available....
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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:13:02 AM EDT
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Huntertown Arms is on board and won't sell to LEO in banned states. http://www.huntertownarms.com/ Your can. Your way. No compromise. The owners and employees of Huntertown Arms join others in our industry to denounce the unconscionable assault on the God-given right to self defense. Our Founders plainly and clearly expressed the People's right to keep and bear arms in the United States Constitution. Unfortunately, "Shall not be infringed" seems to be too many words for so many to understand. Effective immediately, we will no longer sell or service any Huntertown Arms products to any law enforcement or governmental agency in any state or locale that would deny those same products to law-abiding citizens within their communities. We look forward to the day when when this policy will be repealed. I didn't know you were in my AO, now I know who I'm going to visit when it is time to make my rifle quiet |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 11:44:18 AM EDT
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The answer is yes, our Distributors are allowed to sell to LEOs in ban states. Our founder has also said regarding LEO restrictions, "We have not considered such a move as we are not convinced that this tactic will have any effect on those in power (they will just buy Israeli or some other generic parts). It also adversely punishes street cops, local sheriffs and individual military members for the actions of those in power. The last thing we want to do is hurt those who support our cause." So, we see that we can support Law Enforcement and Military members while standing up for our convictions and will continue to do everything in our power to protect our inherent rights. Keep in mind this is pretty much exactly what Armalite said and people are trying to crucify them. I imagine almost all the big manufacturers will have the same policy. Lets see how people react now they can keep their shit. they fail to see the big picture. |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 11:55:52 AM EDT
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I was saving up for Magpul furniture and sights for my newest rifle build. Not any more. I'm seriously thinking of selling my Pmags as soon as I can replace them.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:57:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: They seem to be ok with that. Since if you won't buy their parts you are just going to buy them somewhere else. It sucks though. I liked them alot. I also think Travis wouldn't have let this shit fly if he was in charge. I was saving up for Magpul furniture and sights for my newest rifle build. Not any more. I'm seriously thinking of selling my Pmags as soon as I can replace them. |
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