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Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:18:03 PM EST
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This. People are for the most part people. The politicians that crave power will do and say anything to keep that power. From putin, to obama, to sadam, they say things to whip the population into supporting a certain narrative. GD. Dont drink the cool aid that both sides are feeding you.

Does the average american hate  an average iranian?
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I don't know if anyone wants to hear form someone who actually knows many Russians, has been to Russia, has hosted Russian students, and speaks Russian but the average Russian is either neutral or positive to the United States.  The middle and upper class (yes, Russia actually has a middle class) tend to have some English and enjoy American culture and film.  The average Russian does not hate you.

If you want to find some commies who hate America you need to go no further than American Universities and Washington D.C.
This. People are for the most part people. The politicians that crave power will do and say anything to keep that power. From putin, to obama, to sadam, they say things to whip the population into supporting a certain narrative. GD. Dont drink the cool aid that both sides are feeding you.

Does the average american hate  an average iranian?
So you admit to buying the globalist lie that nation states are not important entities? You believe that the ultimate power and authority a government exercises does not come from its people?

Your position about "what the average person thinks" is only relevant if you believe the above.

Furthermore, the data on what Russians actually believe has been posted in this thread. It does not support what you think or feel about the average person.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:18:46 PM EST
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I think russians have a lot 8n common with Americans but our governments want to escalate relations for the military industrial complex.

The US government wants Russia to do its bidding, lose all its trade partners in the process, all for nothing.
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Oh for fucks sake.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:19:57 PM EST
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It's both surprising and disheartening to hear an American parrot Soviet Cold War propaganda-speak as if it was fact. Language has meaning and to call those states that were occupied and fell victim to the USSR "buffer states" -- using the same terminology the Communists used -- is sickening, quite frankly. Those countries were occupied and under siege by the USSR. "Buffer states" my ass.

It's amazing how many here don't see Russia for what it is and has always been -- an evil empire, just as Reagan said.
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Lol. I’m using our own foreign policy advisor’s terminology...
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:20:04 PM EST
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Hopefully, when the boomers on here turn off their CNN and take their pills.
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Someday I honestly believe we will have a better relationship with them than Europe.
Hopefully, when the boomers on here turn off their CNN and take their pills.
Did you vote for Obama? That was essentially his position. He called for a "reset" and so on...

Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:23:18 PM EST
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The boomer neocon animosity here is hilarious, but kind of sad.

Currently, the largest tangible threat to the USA is Islam in any form. They could actually one of our best allies in the WOT but we need to hate them, for what exactly? They were communist once? lmao
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The thread isn't about what are the threats, or what is the biggest threat. It is simply stating that Russia is an American enemy. And lots of useful idiots are trying to distract from that fact by talking about "other threats. No one has said that there aren't other threats.

And no, Islam is not a more dangerous threat. More frequent and more likely to happen regularly...But last I checked, they don't have a massive military that threatens our allies, is capable of global thermal nuclear war, and has effective active cyber and information warfare campaigns against us.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:24:27 PM EST
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Did you vote for Obama? That was essentially his position. He called for a "reset" and so on...

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What a shit stain of a President he was.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:25:29 PM EST
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I’m actually quoting a former National Security Advisor and foreign policy advisor to the US, who laid it out in 1997.
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Now you are just parroting Russian talking points.

Is it possible that the victims of the horrible failings of Communism, saw the success of capitalism next door, then willingly aligned with NATO while Russia was on her knees?

If you were a politician in the Baltics, Ukraine or Georgia, would you be trying to get into NATO? Or sign your people up to be Putin's bitch and continue to be under the yolk of people who have no value for life? People who have habitually exploited your people for a very long time?

People want to be free and prosperous. NATO nations support freedom.
I’m actually quoting a former National Security Advisor and foreign policy advisor to the US, who laid it out in 1997.
The same people who supported Obama's "reset" idiocy? How did that turn out?
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:29:39 PM EST
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Putin and Russia are not our friends.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:32:10 PM EST
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So you admit to buying the globalist lie that nation states are not important entities? You believe that the ultimate power and authority a government exercises does not come from its people?

Your position about "what the average person thinks" is only relevant if you believe the above.

Furthermore, the data on what Russians actually believe has been posted in this thread. It does not support what you think or feel about the average person.
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Politicians are all the same. Commies, capitalist, kings, dictators, they want power and power over people. They get that through nationalism, socialism, globalism, religeon,race, gender and so on. They get us to fight and kill one another for what? - thier own gain and power.  Its been going on since the begining of man. I have no solution for it.  The data on this thread? What a joke. I have family that are russian.  Hell they were soviets. Do they hate americans, no. They are americans now.



You are saying an average russian hates us and wants us dead? No. They are people like you and me, they worry about what the weather will be next week, when they can retire, what their favorite, soccer, hockey, football sports teams are doing. They dont care enough to hate someone thousands of miles away. They care about how to put food on the table and provide for their families.

My opinion? Putin should be taken out.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:32:58 PM EST
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Islam is,at very worst,a nuisance,it is not an existential threat to the West by any means. The worry of an Islamist caliphate taking over the world is just plain silly,they can't even take over shitholes like Iraq and they are somehow a mortal danger to the US? No. Doctors writing scripts for opiates are more dangerous than Muslims.

Your simplistic view ignores a fundamental problem: Russia and the US aren't on the same side in the WOT. You want to be the ally of the country aiding the Taliban and who is the biggest supporter of the nation your Secretary of Defense calls the biggest state sponsor of terror? How are you planning for this to work? Oh yes,Russians are white Christians who hate Muslims as much as you do You don't know who invented and bankrolled Islamic terror in the 1970s and don't know who paid for the largest anti-Western protests in the world
https://gdb.voanews.com/2F0F32ED-6065-4DEF-A4FC-EAA1D71EDAC4_cx0_cy4_cw0_w1023_r1_s.jpg

Ignorance,pure ignorance.
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The boomer neocon animosity here is hilarious, but kind of sad.

Currently, the largest tangible threat to the USA is Islam in any form. They could actually one of our best allies in the WOT but we need to hate them, for what exactly? They were communist once? lmao
Islam is,at very worst,a nuisance,it is not an existential threat to the West by any means. The worry of an Islamist caliphate taking over the world is just plain silly,they can't even take over shitholes like Iraq and they are somehow a mortal danger to the US? No. Doctors writing scripts for opiates are more dangerous than Muslims.

Your simplistic view ignores a fundamental problem: Russia and the US aren't on the same side in the WOT. You want to be the ally of the country aiding the Taliban and who is the biggest supporter of the nation your Secretary of Defense calls the biggest state sponsor of terror? How are you planning for this to work? Oh yes,Russians are white Christians who hate Muslims as much as you do You don't know who invented and bankrolled Islamic terror in the 1970s and don't know who paid for the largest anti-Western protests in the world
https://gdb.voanews.com/2F0F32ED-6065-4DEF-A4FC-EAA1D71EDAC4_cx0_cy4_cw0_w1023_r1_s.jpg

Ignorance,pure ignorance.
The news that Russia is aiding the Taliban is at least a year old, yet some here continue to see US interests aligned with Russian interests. The fact is our interests have never been aligned. They were barely aligned in WWII and once the war ended, the Soviets became our enemy very quickly, due to their lies, deceit and contemptible behavior in Eastern Europe and elsewhere. Communists and Muslims are untrustworthy liars. Make a treaty with the Russians and you'll find you'll be the only party upholding their end of the bargain. And the Chinese are no better.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:35:29 PM EST
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Lol. I’m using our own foreign policy advisor’s terminology...
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It's both surprising and disheartening to hear an American parrot Soviet Cold War propaganda-speak as if it was fact. Language has meaning and to call those states that were occupied and fell victim to the USSR "buffer states" -- using the same terminology the Communists used -- is sickening, quite frankly. Those countries were occupied and under siege by the USSR. "Buffer states" my ass.

It's amazing how many here don't see Russia for what it is and has always been -- an evil empire, just as Reagan said.
Lol. I’m using our own foreign policy advisor’s terminology...
Cite your source or STFU.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:41:24 PM EST
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One quick way to spot dumb and made-up crap is when they use the "If you dont believe in the conspiracy then you are part of the conspiracy" junk, hoping people are stupid enough for it to work. For instance "The earth is flat and the whole aerospace industry are in on it" or "sandy hook didn't happen and everyone who lost loved ones are in on it"

Now it applies to low quality government propaganda too. If you push back on some of this hysterical russia garbage, then maybe you ARE a russian! lol.

If the federal government is that convinced that russia is their enemy, then as an "assault rifle" owner, that means I have at least one thing in common with russia
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:43:09 PM EST
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We have lots of enemies and quasi "friends".

Chinese, Saudis, the Turks are complete shitbirds yet we have relations with them, etc etc.

Trump's foreign policy of being relatively polite to everyone but "America First" + big military is IMHO the right way to go but we shall see how long it lasts.

Only thing I don't get is how 2-3 people on here go completely fucking bananas over Muh Russia stuff. A couple of them are NeverTrump dickheads so probably just a bunch of trolling but who knows.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:45:19 PM EST
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We have lots of enemies and quasi "friends".

Chinese, Saudis, the Turks are complete shitbirds yet we have relations with them, etc etc.

Trump's foreign policy of being relatively polite to everyone but "America First" + big military is IMHO the right way to go but we shall see how long it lasts.

Only thing I don't get is how 2-3 people on here go completely fucking bananas over Muh Russia stuff. A couple of them are NeverTrump dickheads so probably just a bunch of trolling but who knows.
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It is simply stating that Russia is an American enemy.
We have lots of enemies and quasi "friends".

Chinese, Saudis, the Turks are complete shitbirds yet we have relations with them, etc etc.

Trump's foreign policy of being relatively polite to everyone but "America First" + big military is IMHO the right way to go but we shall see how long it lasts.

Only thing I don't get is how 2-3 people on here go completely fucking bananas over Muh Russia stuff. A couple of them are NeverTrump dickheads so probably just a bunch of trolling but who knows.
It was a british fucking agent that colluded with hillary.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:46:54 PM EST
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Have a look at a modern NATO map, and compare it to the old USSR map, then re-assess your statement.

We overwhelmingly won the peace. The big exception is the Ukraine, which happened on Obama's watch.
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You got one thing right about your response
Did I say anywhere it was over? Anything they have done since has a plan attached to it.
Nor did I say we lost, I said what we did lose we should not have.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:50:20 PM EST
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Russia won't do shit.
If they were, they would've done something for the U.S. involvement in Syria.
They would've done something for threatening N.Korea.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:52:58 PM EST
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Only thing I don't get is how 2-3 people on here go completely bananas over Muh Russia stuff. A couple of them are NeverTrump dickheads so probably just a bunch of trolling but who knows.
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Too much facebook probably.

All that stuff on there about Russia and the election raises two big questions

1. If Russia could buy an election for a few thousand dollars in ads, why couldn't Hillary do it for billions
2. If we are against foreign election meddling, then what's with all the ads with Israeli crap printed directly on them
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:54:12 PM EST
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The news that Russia is aiding the Taliban is at least a year old, yet some here continue to see US interests aligned with Russian interests. The fact is our interests have never been aligned. They were barely aligned in WWII and once the war ended, the Soviets became our enemy very quickly, due to their lies, deceit and contemptible behavior in Eastern Europe and elsewhere. Communists and Muslims are untrustworthy liars. Make a treaty with the Russians and you'll find you'll be the only party upholding their end of the bargain. And the Chinese are no better.
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The boomer neocon animosity here is hilarious, but kind of sad.

Currently, the largest tangible threat to the USA is Islam in any form. They could actually one of our best allies in the WOT but we need to hate them, for what exactly? They were communist once? lmao
Islam is,at very worst,a nuisance,it is not an existential threat to the West by any means. The worry of an Islamist caliphate taking over the world is just plain silly,they can't even take over shitholes like Iraq and they are somehow a mortal danger to the US? No. Doctors writing scripts for opiates are more dangerous than Muslims.

Your simplistic view ignores a fundamental problem: Russia and the US aren't on the same side in the WOT. You want to be the ally of the country aiding the Taliban and who is the biggest supporter of the nation your Secretary of Defense calls the biggest state sponsor of terror? How are you planning for this to work? Oh yes,Russians are white Christians who hate Muslims as much as you do You don't know who invented and bankrolled Islamic terror in the 1970s and don't know who paid for the largest anti-Western protests in the world
https://gdb.voanews.com/2F0F32ED-6065-4DEF-A4FC-EAA1D71EDAC4_cx0_cy4_cw0_w1023_r1_s.jpg

Ignorance,pure ignorance.
The news that Russia is aiding the Taliban is at least a year old, yet some here continue to see US interests aligned with Russian interests. The fact is our interests have never been aligned. They were barely aligned in WWII and once the war ended, the Soviets became our enemy very quickly, due to their lies, deceit and contemptible behavior in Eastern Europe and elsewhere. Communists and Muslims are untrustworthy liars. Make a treaty with the Russians and you'll find you'll be the only party upholding their end of the bargain. And the Chinese are no better.
I’ll go one further and say that the Russian aiding the Taliban news was all but ignored while we see far more posts about the US supposedly creating and fostering ISIS. A plain truth covered up by a persistent lie.

We are dealing with a concerted public propaganda effort, facts be damned, and can see the results in this very thread.

Was the OP’s thread title a bit hyperbolic? Maybe. He sure successfully pulled in the pro Russian trolls, though.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:55:37 PM EST
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Was the OP’s thread title a bit hyperbolic? Maybe. He sure successfully pulled in the pro Russian trolls, though.
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Haha this is exactly what I was talking about 6 posts up. exactly
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 5:59:41 PM EST
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Haha this is exactly what I was talking about 6 posts up. exactly
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Was the OP’s thread title a bit hyperbolic? Maybe. He sure successfully pulled in the pro Russian trolls, though.
Haha this is exactly what I was talking about 6 posts up. exactly
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:00:22 PM EST
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LOL at this thread........
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:02:39 PM EST
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OMG You guys! Like, Russia is not your friend! Like, why are you even talking to her?

Like, gross you guys.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:04:13 PM EST
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Only good fucking ruskie is a dead fucking ruskie.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:04:33 PM EST
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Now you are just parroting Russian talking points.

Is it possible that the victims of the horrible failings of Communism, saw the success of capitalism next door, then willingly aligned with NATO while Russia was on her knees?

If you were a politician in the Baltics, Ukraine or Georgia, would you be trying to get into NATO? Or sign your people up to be Putin's bitch and continue to be under the yolk of people who have no value for life? People who have habitually exploited your people for a very long time?

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I'd buy your argument, if that argument didn't apply to about 90% of the countries on earth.

Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:05:16 PM EST
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It was a british fucking agent that colluded with hillary.
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It is simply stating that Russia is an American enemy.
We have lots of enemies and quasi "friends".

Chinese, Saudis, the Turks are complete shitbirds yet we have relations with them, etc etc.

Trump's foreign policy of being relatively polite to everyone but "America First" + big military is IMHO the right way to go but we shall see how long it lasts.

Only thing I don't get is how 2-3 people on here go completely fucking bananas over Muh Russia stuff. A couple of them are NeverTrump dickheads so probably just a bunch of trolling but who knows.
It was a british fucking agent that colluded with hillary.
Along with the FBI, Obama's DOJ...

Hillary and the Dems have always been big buddies with the Russians and Soviets. They only slightly changed their tune when they realized Russia was playing the fools on the right with some IW, the same as the fools on the left they had been manipulating for 70+ years.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:06:22 PM EST
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It's both surprising and disheartening to hear an American parrot Soviet Cold War propaganda-speak as if it was fact. Language has meaning and to call those states that were occupied and fell victim to the USSR "buffer states" -- using the same terminology the Communists used -- is sickening, quite frankly. Those countries were occupied and under siege by the USSR. "Buffer states" my ass.

It's amazing how many here don't see Russia for what it is and has always been -- an evil empire, just as Reagan said.
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Since European History is probably not taught in US schools anymore, allow me to google it for you:

Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:06:27 PM EST
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You got one thing right about your response
Did I say anywhere it was over? Anything they have done since has a plan attached to it.
Nor did I say we lost, I said what we did lose we should not have.
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Have a look at a modern NATO map, and compare it to the old USSR map, then re-assess your statement.

We overwhelmingly won the peace. The big exception is the Ukraine, which happened on Obama's watch.
You got one thing right about your response
Did I say anywhere it was over? Anything they have done since has a plan attached to it.
Nor did I say we lost, I said what we did lose we should not have.
Amazing backpedaling, bravo. Did you play defensive back?
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:07:48 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:08:13 PM EST
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This thread reminds me of some IFB pastors too

Someone gets thrown out of the church and he preaches about them "This person was spreading false doctrine, he wants you all to burn in hell forever, he said ..., you can NEVER have fellowship with them"

But then you text them and find out it was something related to money
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:09:26 PM EST
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I'd buy your argument, if that argument didn't apply to about 90% of the countries on earth.

http://www.civil.ge/files/images/2012/Soros-Saakashvili.jpg
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Now you are just parroting Russian talking points.

Is it possible that the victims of the horrible failings of Communism, saw the success of capitalism next door, then willingly aligned with NATO while Russia was on her knees?

If you were a politician in the Baltics, Ukraine or Georgia, would you be trying to get into NATO? Or sign your people up to be Putin's bitch and continue to be under the yolk of people who have no value for life? People who have habitually exploited your people for a very long time?

People want to be free and prosperous. NATO nations support freedom.
I'd buy your argument, if that argument didn't apply to about 90% of the countries on earth.

http://www.civil.ge/files/images/2012/Soros-Saakashvili.jpg
No it does not. 90% of the Earth's countries did not fall under the Soviet Union. 90% of the Earth's countries are not old Soviet buffer states.

Your Russia Schilling is weak and pathetic.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:12:47 PM EST
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The thread isn't about what are the threats, or what is the biggest threat. It is simply stating that Russia is an American enemy.
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The thread isn't about what are the threats, or what is the biggest threat. It is simply stating that Russia is an American enemy.
And that statement would be wrong. Which is what others are saying here too.

It's not a dichotomous choice between "enemies" and "friends". There's a whole spectrum in between. And frankly, they mostly have the same enemies we have too. Which includes about 50% of the US government

So, maybe, listen to Candidate Trump and pick your enemies first.

and has effective active cyber and information warfare campaigns against us.
Lay off the CNN.
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Since European History is probably not taught in US schools anymore, allow me to google it for you:

http://sites.middlebury.edu/middartmuseum/files/2013/06/009_russian_empire_1900.jpg
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It's both surprising and disheartening to hear an American parrot Soviet Cold War propaganda-speak as if it was fact. Language has meaning and to call those states that were occupied and fell victim to the USSR "buffer states" -- using the same terminology the Communists used -- is sickening, quite frankly. Those countries were occupied and under siege by the USSR. "Buffer states" my ass.

It's amazing how many here don't see Russia for what it is and has always been -- an evil empire, just as Reagan said.
Since European History is probably not taught in US schools anymore, allow me to google it for you:

http://sites.middlebury.edu/middartmuseum/files/2013/06/009_russian_empire_1900.jpg
Are you trying to remind people that Russia’s expansionist nature didn’t exactly start with the Soviets?

Do we really need to wonder why the Poles take the Russian threat so seriously? Their internet boosters seem to think a 19th century map is justification for modern revanchist policies.

A country that can only feel secure when it is surrounded by docile, subservient vassal states is a country with... issues.
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Since European History is probably not taught in US schools anymore, allow me to google it for you:

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It's both surprising and disheartening to hear an American parrot Soviet Cold War propaganda-speak as if it was fact. Language has meaning and to call those states that were occupied and fell victim to the USSR "buffer states" -- using the same terminology the Communists used -- is sickening, quite frankly. Those countries were occupied and under siege by the USSR. "Buffer states" my ass.

It's amazing how many here don't see Russia for what it is and has always been -- an evil empire, just as Reagan said.
Since European History is probably not taught in US schools anymore, allow me to google it for you:

http://sites.middlebury.edu/middartmuseum/files/2013/06/009_russian_empire_1900.jpg
And there it is folks, straight from the Russian schills mouth...Exactly what we've been saying. Russia is not like America. They are expansionist, and seeking to regain the perceived former glory, at the expense of her neighbors, NATO and the US.

And that is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm sure all of that building and arctic "exploration" is just to obtain world peace and advance science.
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I am going to mineral water in september. Hook me up with some broads bro.
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No it does not. 90% of the Earth's countries did not fall under the Soviet Union. 90% of the Earth's countries are not old Soviet buffer states.

Your Russia Schilling is weak and pathetic.
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Simply because you're ignorant of history, it's not an excuse. It's understandable, but it's not an excuse.

Most counties on earth have some beef with some neighbor, or some historical grievance. Your justification that because 1 country has got a beef with another, justifies x y and z would be believable, IF, that same statement didn't apply to 90% of countries on earth.

As I've said many times before, don't get involved in other people's beefs if you can't even fucking find them on a map. Jesus Tap Dancing Christ.
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I am going to mineral water in september. Hook me up with some broads bro.
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What kind do you like? I've been told on this thread that Tatar girls are hot, but they do come in three varieties: blond and blue eyes, Asian-looking, and Charles Bronson.

What's your preference?
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:17:28 PM EST
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And that statement would be wrong. Which is what others are saying here too.

It's not a dichotomous choice between "enemies" and "friends". There's a whole spectrum in between. And frankly, they mostly have the same enemies we have too. Which includes about 50% of the US government

So, maybe, listen to Candidate Trump and pick your enemies first.

Lay off the CNN.
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The thread isn't about what are the threats, or what is the biggest threat. It is simply stating that Russia is an American enemy.
And that statement would be wrong. Which is what others are saying here too.

It's not a dichotomous choice between "enemies" and "friends". There's a whole spectrum in between. And frankly, they mostly have the same enemies we have too. Which includes about 50% of the US government

So, maybe, listen to Candidate Trump and pick your enemies first.

and has effective active cyber and information warfare campaigns against us.
Lay off the CNN.
And you are wrong. Even weak assed Obama and Hillary finally realized that "Russian reset" was a fools errand and all it got us was Russia back in the Ukraine, Syria and Afghanistan.

Several specific examples of Russians doing things that are opposed to our interest have been posted in this thread. Nothing has been posted as a concrete example of shared interests. Just some vague and misguided statements about how the common people feel. LOL
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:18:30 PM EST
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What kind do you like? I've been told on this thread that Tatar girls are hot, but they do come in three varieties: blond and blue eyes, Asian-looking, and Charles Bronson.

What's your preference?
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Blonde with big ass boobs. What is charles bronson?
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:20:16 PM EST
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LOL at this thread........
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Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:20:57 PM EST
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Are you trying to remind people that Russia’s expansionist nature didn’t exactly start with the Soviets?
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Are you trying to remind people that Russia’s expansionist nature didn’t exactly start with the Soviets?
I'm quite sure it doesn't qualify as a reminder, since most probably have no freaking clue about the history of Poland, for example.

Do we really need to wonder why the Poles take the Russian threat so seriously? Their internet boosters seem to think a 19th century map is justification for modern revanchist policies.

A country that can only feel secure when it is surrounded by docile, subservient vassal states is a country with... issues.
Maybe the Russians were just trying to defend the Little Russians and White Russians from their Polish invaders



No my point is, why the fuck do you want to get involved in 1,000 year wars between these people? You have NO IDEA about their history and why they got beefs.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:23:36 PM EST
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It's funny to see just how many people seem to think that just because the wall came down and the Soviets failed that somehow makes them not dangerous anymore.  They still have thousands of warheads with guidance programs for CONUS and foreign military posts, some submarines that are still seaworthy, and a Airforce/Naval Avation Wing that still has airworthy nuke armed airframes in operation.  They have a numerically superior military (their actual capability is another debate but never forget the lessons learned from the eastern front) commanded by officers who came up before/just after the collapse.  They are dangerous and warrant some respect as a military/world opponent(by proxy or directly), but fuck communism and their government, past, present, and future.

I like some of their military hardware, hate their government/ways.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:23:38 PM EST
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Several specific examples of Russians doing things that are opposed to our interest have been posted in this thread.
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OMG You guys!! Like, Russia is not even, like, your friend? Like, she totally dissed you in the hallway the other day?

Like, why are you even talking to her?

That's like, gross you guys.

"They have interests other than ours" is one mighty convincing argument. When do we start the bombing?
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:24:09 PM EST
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And you are wrong. Even weak assed Obama and Hillary finally realized that "Russian reset" was a fools errand and all it got us was Russia back in the Ukraine, Syria and Afghanistan.

Several specific examples of Russians doing things that are opposed to our interest have been posted in this thread. Nothing has been posted as a concrete example of shared interests. Just some vague and misguided statements about how the common people feel. LOL
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The point about the common people is that they dont want ukrane, they dont want syria or afghanistan. Its putin and his circle of power that control the russian military.  The russian ( putin) narrative is forced upon the military.  If obama gave the order to invade iran 99% of the military would do it. Because they are ordered to do it. We did not like the man but we have to carry out our orders.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:25:28 PM EST
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It's funny to see just how many people seem to think that just because the wall came down and the Soviets failed that somehow makes them not dangerous anymore.  They still have thousands of warheads with guidance programs for CONUS and foreign military posts,
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Which is probably a good reason to try and become friends. If we can.

You know...cause we're not 5 year old girls.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:31:43 PM EST
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Blonde with big ass boobs. What is charles bronson?
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Charles Bronson is a type of Tatar

Russian girls don't really have big boobs. That only happens after they hit babushka stage. But I'm guessing Yekaterinburg girls is what you're looking for
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:35:04 PM EST
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My dad and a few uncles killed commies, either directly or indirectly.  The Corps taught me how to kill commies, Russians preferably, but it worked on them all.  I don't trust the Russians.  I expect them to try to fuck us no matter what.  China may be overshadowing them as a threat, but never, ever turn your back on that bear.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:35:21 PM EST
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The common Russians have never been the problem, its their leadership that they are fearless loyal and obedient.

I can pet the nicest pitbull in the world, and it'll lick my hand and be a good dog when its just me and it. But if that pit tries to rip my throat out when his owner gives it a command to kill, he's not a good dog actually, and is a threat.
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But that’s not the premise of the thread. He says that Russians hate you.  That’s not true.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:35:36 PM EST
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Charles Bronson is a type of Tatar

Russian girls don't really have big boobs. That only happens after they hit babushka stage. But I'm guessing Yekaterinburg girls is what you're looking for
http://www.ekburg.ru/UserFiles/Storage/ContentPhoto/0/0/91/9165_original.jpg
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Sounds good. I like the fire pussy.
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:40:27 PM EST
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Sounds good. I like the fire pussy.
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Just don't commit any crimes over there. They're pretty strict in Yekaterinburg
Link Posted: 2/11/2018 6:42:06 PM EST
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GD supports an actual socialist dictator
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