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This. People are for the most part people. The politicians that crave power will do and say anything to keep that power. From putin, to obama, to sadam, they say things to whip the population into supporting a certain narrative. GD. Dont drink the cool aid that both sides are feeding you. Does the average american hate an average iranian? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't know if anyone wants to hear form someone who actually knows many Russians, has been to Russia, has hosted Russian students, and speaks Russian but the average Russian is either neutral or positive to the United States. The middle and upper class (yes, Russia actually has a middle class) tend to have some English and enjoy American culture and film. The average Russian does not hate you. If you want to find some commies who hate America you need to go no further than American Universities and Washington D.C. Does the average american hate an average iranian? Your position about "what the average person thinks" is only relevant if you believe the above. Furthermore, the data on what Russians actually believe has been posted in this thread. It does not support what you think or feel about the average person. |
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Quoted: It's both surprising and disheartening to hear an American parrot Soviet Cold War propaganda-speak as if it was fact. Language has meaning and to call those states that were occupied and fell victim to the USSR "buffer states" -- using the same terminology the Communists used -- is sickening, quite frankly. Those countries were occupied and under siege by the USSR. "Buffer states" my ass. It's amazing how many here don't see Russia for what it is and has always been -- an evil empire, just as Reagan said. View Quote |
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The boomer neocon animosity here is hilarious, but kind of sad. Currently, the largest tangible threat to the USA is Islam in any form. They could actually one of our best allies in the WOT but we need to hate them, for what exactly? They were communist once? lmao View Quote And no, Islam is not a more dangerous threat. More frequent and more likely to happen regularly...But last I checked, they don't have a massive military that threatens our allies, is capable of global thermal nuclear war, and has effective active cyber and information warfare campaigns against us. |
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Quoted: Did you vote for Obama? That was essentially his position. He called for a "reset" and so on... https://pics.onsizzle.com/russia-a-threat-mitt-the-1980s-called-they-want-their-10449092.png View Quote |
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I’m actually quoting a former National Security Advisor and foreign policy advisor to the US, who laid it out in 1997. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Now you are just parroting Russian talking points. Is it possible that the victims of the horrible failings of Communism, saw the success of capitalism next door, then willingly aligned with NATO while Russia was on her knees? If you were a politician in the Baltics, Ukraine or Georgia, would you be trying to get into NATO? Or sign your people up to be Putin's bitch and continue to be under the yolk of people who have no value for life? People who have habitually exploited your people for a very long time? People want to be free and prosperous. NATO nations support freedom. |
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Islam is,at very worst,a nuisance,it is not an existential threat to the West by any means. The worry of an Islamist caliphate taking over the world is just plain silly,they can't even take over shitholes like Iraq and they are somehow a mortal danger to the US? No. Doctors writing scripts for opiates are more dangerous than Muslims. Your simplistic view ignores a fundamental problem: Russia and the US aren't on the same side in the WOT. You want to be the ally of the country aiding the Taliban and who is the biggest supporter of the nation your Secretary of Defense calls the biggest state sponsor of terror? How are you planning for this to work? Oh yes,Russians are white Christians who hate Muslims as much as you do You don't know who invented and bankrolled Islamic terror in the 1970s and don't know who paid for the largest anti-Western protests in the world https://gdb.voanews.com/2F0F32ED-6065-4DEF-A4FC-EAA1D71EDAC4_cx0_cy4_cw0_w1023_r1_s.jpg Ignorance,pure ignorance. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The boomer neocon animosity here is hilarious, but kind of sad. Currently, the largest tangible threat to the USA is Islam in any form. They could actually one of our best allies in the WOT but we need to hate them, for what exactly? They were communist once? lmao Your simplistic view ignores a fundamental problem: Russia and the US aren't on the same side in the WOT. You want to be the ally of the country aiding the Taliban and who is the biggest supporter of the nation your Secretary of Defense calls the biggest state sponsor of terror? How are you planning for this to work? Oh yes,Russians are white Christians who hate Muslims as much as you do You don't know who invented and bankrolled Islamic terror in the 1970s and don't know who paid for the largest anti-Western protests in the world https://gdb.voanews.com/2F0F32ED-6065-4DEF-A4FC-EAA1D71EDAC4_cx0_cy4_cw0_w1023_r1_s.jpg Ignorance,pure ignorance. |
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Lol. I’m using our own foreign policy advisor’s terminology... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: It's both surprising and disheartening to hear an American parrot Soviet Cold War propaganda-speak as if it was fact. Language has meaning and to call those states that were occupied and fell victim to the USSR "buffer states" -- using the same terminology the Communists used -- is sickening, quite frankly. Those countries were occupied and under siege by the USSR. "Buffer states" my ass. It's amazing how many here don't see Russia for what it is and has always been -- an evil empire, just as Reagan said. |
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One quick way to spot dumb and made-up crap is when they use the "If you dont believe in the conspiracy then you are part of the conspiracy" junk, hoping people are stupid enough for it to work. For instance "The earth is flat and the whole aerospace industry are in on it" or "sandy hook didn't happen and everyone who lost loved ones are in on it"
Now it applies to low quality government propaganda too. If you push back on some of this hysterical russia garbage, then maybe you ARE a russian! lol. If the federal government is that convinced that russia is their enemy, then as an "assault rifle" owner, that means I have at least one thing in common with russia |
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It is simply stating that Russia is an American enemy. View Quote Chinese, Saudis, the Turks are complete shitbirds yet we have relations with them, etc etc. Trump's foreign policy of being relatively polite to everyone but "America First" + big military is IMHO the right way to go but we shall see how long it lasts. Only thing I don't get is how 2-3 people on here go completely fucking bananas over Muh Russia stuff. A couple of them are NeverTrump dickheads so probably just a bunch of trolling but who knows. |
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We have lots of enemies and quasi "friends". Chinese, Saudis, the Turks are complete shitbirds yet we have relations with them, etc etc. Trump's foreign policy of being relatively polite to everyone but "America First" + big military is IMHO the right way to go but we shall see how long it lasts. Only thing I don't get is how 2-3 people on here go completely fucking bananas over Muh Russia stuff. A couple of them are NeverTrump dickheads so probably just a bunch of trolling but who knows. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It is simply stating that Russia is an American enemy. Chinese, Saudis, the Turks are complete shitbirds yet we have relations with them, etc etc. Trump's foreign policy of being relatively polite to everyone but "America First" + big military is IMHO the right way to go but we shall see how long it lasts. Only thing I don't get is how 2-3 people on here go completely fucking bananas over Muh Russia stuff. A couple of them are NeverTrump dickheads so probably just a bunch of trolling but who knows. |
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Quoted: Have a look at a modern NATO map, and compare it to the old USSR map, then re-assess your statement. We overwhelmingly won the peace. The big exception is the Ukraine, which happened on Obama's watch. View Quote Did I say anywhere it was over? Anything they have done since has a plan attached to it. Nor did I say we lost, I said what we did lose we should not have. |
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Russia won't do shit.
If they were, they would've done something for the U.S. involvement in Syria. They would've done something for threatening N.Korea. |
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Only thing I don't get is how 2-3 people on here go completely bananas over Muh Russia stuff. A couple of them are NeverTrump dickheads so probably just a bunch of trolling but who knows. View Quote All that stuff on there about Russia and the election raises two big questions 1. If Russia could buy an election for a few thousand dollars in ads, why couldn't Hillary do it for billions 2. If we are against foreign election meddling, then what's with all the ads with Israeli crap printed directly on them |
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The news that Russia is aiding the Taliban is at least a year old, yet some here continue to see US interests aligned with Russian interests. The fact is our interests have never been aligned. They were barely aligned in WWII and once the war ended, the Soviets became our enemy very quickly, due to their lies, deceit and contemptible behavior in Eastern Europe and elsewhere. Communists and Muslims are untrustworthy liars. Make a treaty with the Russians and you'll find you'll be the only party upholding their end of the bargain. And the Chinese are no better. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The boomer neocon animosity here is hilarious, but kind of sad. Currently, the largest tangible threat to the USA is Islam in any form. They could actually one of our best allies in the WOT but we need to hate them, for what exactly? They were communist once? lmao Your simplistic view ignores a fundamental problem: Russia and the US aren't on the same side in the WOT. You want to be the ally of the country aiding the Taliban and who is the biggest supporter of the nation your Secretary of Defense calls the biggest state sponsor of terror? How are you planning for this to work? Oh yes,Russians are white Christians who hate Muslims as much as you do You don't know who invented and bankrolled Islamic terror in the 1970s and don't know who paid for the largest anti-Western protests in the world https://gdb.voanews.com/2F0F32ED-6065-4DEF-A4FC-EAA1D71EDAC4_cx0_cy4_cw0_w1023_r1_s.jpg Ignorance,pure ignorance. We are dealing with a concerted public propaganda effort, facts be damned, and can see the results in this very thread. Was the OP’s thread title a bit hyperbolic? Maybe. He sure successfully pulled in the pro Russian trolls, though. |
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OMG You guys! Like, Russia is not your friend! Like, why are you even talking to her?
Like, gross you guys. |
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It was a british fucking agent that colluded with hillary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It is simply stating that Russia is an American enemy. Chinese, Saudis, the Turks are complete shitbirds yet we have relations with them, etc etc. Trump's foreign policy of being relatively polite to everyone but "America First" + big military is IMHO the right way to go but we shall see how long it lasts. Only thing I don't get is how 2-3 people on here go completely fucking bananas over Muh Russia stuff. A couple of them are NeverTrump dickheads so probably just a bunch of trolling but who knows. Hillary and the Dems have always been big buddies with the Russians and Soviets. They only slightly changed their tune when they realized Russia was playing the fools on the right with some IW, the same as the fools on the left they had been manipulating for 70+ years. |
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You got one thing right about your response Did I say anywhere it was over? Anything they have done since has a plan attached to it. Nor did I say we lost, I said what we did lose we should not have. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Have a look at a modern NATO map, and compare it to the old USSR map, then re-assess your statement. We overwhelmingly won the peace. The big exception is the Ukraine, which happened on Obama's watch. Did I say anywhere it was over? Anything they have done since has a plan attached to it. Nor did I say we lost, I said what we did lose we should not have. |
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OMG You guys! Like, Russia is not your friend! Like, why are you even talking to her? Like, gross you guys. View Quote Someone gets thrown out of the church and he preaches about them "This person was spreading false doctrine, he wants you all to burn in hell forever, he said ..., you can NEVER have fellowship with them" But then you text them and find out it was something related to money |
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I'd buy your argument, if that argument didn't apply to about 90% of the countries on earth. http://www.civil.ge/files/images/2012/Soros-Saakashvili.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Now you are just parroting Russian talking points. Is it possible that the victims of the horrible failings of Communism, saw the success of capitalism next door, then willingly aligned with NATO while Russia was on her knees? If you were a politician in the Baltics, Ukraine or Georgia, would you be trying to get into NATO? Or sign your people up to be Putin's bitch and continue to be under the yolk of people who have no value for life? People who have habitually exploited your people for a very long time? People want to be free and prosperous. NATO nations support freedom. http://www.civil.ge/files/images/2012/Soros-Saakashvili.jpg Your Russia Schilling is weak and pathetic. |
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The thread isn't about what are the threats, or what is the biggest threat. It is simply stating that Russia is an American enemy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
The thread isn't about what are the threats, or what is the biggest threat. It is simply stating that Russia is an American enemy. It's not a dichotomous choice between "enemies" and "friends". There's a whole spectrum in between. And frankly, they mostly have the same enemies we have too. Which includes about 50% of the US government So, maybe, listen to Candidate Trump and pick your enemies first. and has effective active cyber and information warfare campaigns against us. |
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Since European History is probably not taught in US schools anymore, allow me to google it for you: http://sites.middlebury.edu/middartmuseum/files/2013/06/009_russian_empire_1900.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's both surprising and disheartening to hear an American parrot Soviet Cold War propaganda-speak as if it was fact. Language has meaning and to call those states that were occupied and fell victim to the USSR "buffer states" -- using the same terminology the Communists used -- is sickening, quite frankly. Those countries were occupied and under siege by the USSR. "Buffer states" my ass. It's amazing how many here don't see Russia for what it is and has always been -- an evil empire, just as Reagan said. http://sites.middlebury.edu/middartmuseum/files/2013/06/009_russian_empire_1900.jpg Do we really need to wonder why the Poles take the Russian threat so seriously? Their internet boosters seem to think a 19th century map is justification for modern revanchist policies. A country that can only feel secure when it is surrounded by docile, subservient vassal states is a country with... issues. |
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Since European History is probably not taught in US schools anymore, allow me to google it for you: http://sites.middlebury.edu/middartmuseum/files/2013/06/009_russian_empire_1900.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's both surprising and disheartening to hear an American parrot Soviet Cold War propaganda-speak as if it was fact. Language has meaning and to call those states that were occupied and fell victim to the USSR "buffer states" -- using the same terminology the Communists used -- is sickening, quite frankly. Those countries were occupied and under siege by the USSR. "Buffer states" my ass. It's amazing how many here don't see Russia for what it is and has always been -- an evil empire, just as Reagan said. http://sites.middlebury.edu/middartmuseum/files/2013/06/009_russian_empire_1900.jpg And that is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm sure all of that building and arctic "exploration" is just to obtain world peace and advance science. |
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Quoted: Since European History is probably not taught in US schools anymore, allow me to google it for you: http://sites.middlebury.edu/middartmuseum/files/2013/06/009_russian_empire_1900.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: No it does not. 90% of the Earth's countries did not fall under the Soviet Union. 90% of the Earth's countries are not old Soviet buffer states. Your Russia Schilling is weak and pathetic. View Quote Most counties on earth have some beef with some neighbor, or some historical grievance. Your justification that because 1 country has got a beef with another, justifies x y and z would be believable, IF, that same statement didn't apply to 90% of countries on earth. As I've said many times before, don't get involved in other people's beefs if you can't even fucking find them on a map. Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. |
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I am going to mineral water in september. Hook me up with some broads bro. View Quote What's your preference? |
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And that statement would be wrong. Which is what others are saying here too. It's not a dichotomous choice between "enemies" and "friends". There's a whole spectrum in between. And frankly, they mostly have the same enemies we have too. Which includes about 50% of the US government So, maybe, listen to Candidate Trump and pick your enemies first. Lay off the CNN. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The thread isn't about what are the threats, or what is the biggest threat. It is simply stating that Russia is an American enemy. It's not a dichotomous choice between "enemies" and "friends". There's a whole spectrum in between. And frankly, they mostly have the same enemies we have too. Which includes about 50% of the US government So, maybe, listen to Candidate Trump and pick your enemies first. and has effective active cyber and information warfare campaigns against us. Several specific examples of Russians doing things that are opposed to our interest have been posted in this thread. Nothing has been posted as a concrete example of shared interests. Just some vague and misguided statements about how the common people feel. LOL |
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It's funny to see just how many people seem to think that just because the wall came down and the Soviets failed that somehow makes them not dangerous anymore. They still have thousands of warheads with guidance programs for CONUS and foreign military posts, some submarines that are still seaworthy, and a Airforce/Naval Avation Wing that still has airworthy nuke armed airframes in operation. They have a numerically superior military (their actual capability is another debate but never forget the lessons learned from the eastern front) commanded by officers who came up before/just after the collapse. They are dangerous and warrant some respect as a military/world opponent(by proxy or directly), but fuck communism and their government, past, present, and future.
I like some of their military hardware, hate their government/ways. |
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Several specific examples of Russians doing things that are opposed to our interest have been posted in this thread. View Quote Like, why are you even talking to her? That's like, gross you guys. "They have interests other than ours" is one mighty convincing argument. When do we start the bombing? |
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Quoted: And you are wrong. Even weak assed Obama and Hillary finally realized that "Russian reset" was a fools errand and all it got us was Russia back in the Ukraine, Syria and Afghanistan. Several specific examples of Russians doing things that are opposed to our interest have been posted in this thread. Nothing has been posted as a concrete example of shared interests. Just some vague and misguided statements about how the common people feel. LOL View Quote |
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It's funny to see just how many people seem to think that just because the wall came down and the Soviets failed that somehow makes them not dangerous anymore. They still have thousands of warheads with guidance programs for CONUS and foreign military posts, View Quote You know...cause we're not 5 year old girls. |
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My dad and a few uncles killed commies, either directly or indirectly. The Corps taught me how to kill commies, Russians preferably, but it worked on them all. I don't trust the Russians. I expect them to try to fuck us no matter what. China may be overshadowing them as a threat, but never, ever turn your back on that bear.
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Quoted: The common Russians have never been the problem, its their leadership that they are fearless loyal and obedient. I can pet the nicest pitbull in the world, and it'll lick my hand and be a good dog when its just me and it. But if that pit tries to rip my throat out when his owner gives it a command to kill, he's not a good dog actually, and is a threat. View Quote |
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Quoted: Charles Bronson is a type of Tatar Russian girls don't really have big boobs. That only happens after they hit babushka stage. But I'm guessing Yekaterinburg girls is what you're looking for http://www.ekburg.ru/UserFiles/Storage/ContentPhoto/0/0/91/9165_original.jpg View Quote |
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