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Yes and those in this thread longing for Putin's cock are proof of how effective the Russian disinformation campaign is. Hell GD would stand in line to suck Putin's dick. View Quote |
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I have no doubt that the USSR sowed the seeds that led to a lot of our current insanity. I'm not so sure Russia is still involved in that now. That would be some giant 5d chess to be behind the liberals and media institutions who nearly got a woman elected that was hell-bent on getting us involved in a direct confrontation with them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: For me the best comparison are two hyenas. One is already inside the fence attacking the chicken coop whereas the other is outside trying to get in. The liberals (that includes obummer, hillary and all the scum being widely exposed are the hyena inside and Putin the one outside. And, sincerely, I do not put past for a second that both hyenas are working together. We need to clean the house first and are already way late in doing so. I'm not so sure Russia is still involved in that now. That would be some giant 5d chess to be behind the liberals and media institutions who nearly got a woman elected that was hell-bent on getting us involved in a direct confrontation with them. |
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I'm not chock full of hate for Russians like some of you guys. Personally, IDGAF about them as they are no real threat to us. We have other threats that are much more serious and menacing than the damn Russians.... let me name a few for you... China Islamists Home grown Socialists/Antifa Liberal leftists promoting "Social equality" through systemic racism As for Putin, I'm fairly certain everything he does is in the best interest for Russia and Putin. I'm also fairly certain his people appreciate it every time he steps on our toes or pokes us in the eye. Big deal. Trying to make Russia out to be the big "boogeyman" these days is a joke. Hell, from their perspective, they should see us (USA) as the boogeyman..... that's exactly what we are. The CIA and our operatives are all over the world and have been the last 50 years influencing, coercing, intimidating and subverting others. 'Murica baby!!! LOL ZA |
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Quoted: This is such horse shit. Russians don't hate America/Americans. Maybe their government does. |
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And you have yet to answer if you believe that Russia is a greater threat to us than our own socialists. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: The core of the success of this theme is the idea that concern is a zero sum game, that Russia is a "distraction" from being able to also be concerned about such idiots. That logic is laughable, as are those who perpetuate it. I agree that ignoring the leftists is a huge problem. Thankfully Trump is doing something about that in a way that weak Republicans never have. That is not what this thread is about. This thread is about Russia, and how they are our enemy. Not only is the above a piss pour excuse to ignore the Russian problem, a lot of morons on this website support the Russians and spread their propaganda. |
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What if we needed to fight them both at the same time, and could. Not only can we, but they work in tandem, so it is better if we do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I agree OP but Russia isnt our biggest problem. We got a 5th column up in this mofof and I hope it can get fixed without blood Not only can we, but they work in tandem, so it is better if we do. Waiting on the purge! |
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Quoted: Everything Putin does is for show so he can look good, stay in power, and continue robbing the Russian people blind. View Quote Some hide it better than he, but only because they find that doing so makes the task easier. |
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LOL at this thread... I'm not chock full of hate for Russians like some of you guys. Personally, IDGAF about them as they are no real threat to us. We have other threats that are much more serious and menacing than the damn Russians.... let me name a few for you... China Islamists Home grown Socialists/Antifa Liberal leftists promoting "Social equality" through systemic racism As for Putin, I'm fairly certain everything he does is in the best interest for Russia and Putin. I'm also fairly certain his people appreciate it every time he steps on our toes or pokes us in the eye. Big deal. Trying to make Russia out to be the big "boogeyman" these days is a joke. Hell, from their perspective, they should see us (USA) as the boogeyman..... that's exactly what we are. The CIA and our operatives are all over the world and have been the last 50 years influencing, coercing, intimidating and subverting others. 'Murica baby!!! LOL ZA View Quote |
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Many people seem to be capable of only concentrating on ONE threat. Anything else that isn't that particular threat, then it is our friend. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: There's plenty of reasons to fear the American Left. There's no excuse for parroting lies about Russia and its agenda. The current popular talking point that would have any criticism of Russia means you must support the Democrats is just beyond derptastic to the realm of derpalicious. The Democrats only just started seeing the threat from Russia last year, and cling to the "Russian collusion" hypothesis like they cling to the "white supremacists behind every blade of grass" hypothesis to explain what their girl lost. Anything but admitting that transgender advocacy, to include taxpayer funded sex changes for Bradlea Manning alienated way too many voters. When a patient arrives in an ER the doctor's first reaction is to keep him alive, then he fixes him. With all the scandals, corruption and bs floating around we definitely are in an ER situation right now. The liberal left, whether they are still tied to Russia (or someone else) or not are our enemy within and very dangerous. |
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With all the scandals, corruption and bs floating around we definitely are in an ER situation right now. The liberal left, whether they are still tied to Russia (or someone else) or not are our enemy within and very dangerous. View Quote |
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Well, fortunately Russia elected a US President who will build us a wall and put a stop to this. Thanks Russia. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Here is a Canadian view, what has Russia done to the US, that US hasn't done to Russia? People need to calm down lol View Quote |
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The premise of this thread is brain dead. Russia plays 100% of the time for Putin, and 87% in the interest of the Russian people. The American government is split between the interests of the American People and deep pockets of global financiers like Soros, the Saudi's and others. We had 8 years of Obama, and our Government was far more interested in the protection of global interests than our own people. The conflicts of interest we have had with the Russians in the Ukraine and now in Syria have been over the interests of the globalists, not the American people. View Quote He is the reason and the driving force behind russian imperialism and expansion. One fucking guy. There will be a power grab and vaccum without him, the rest of the old commies will kill one another to capture the throne and will set back russian expanisonism. Get rid of that little guy. |
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Couldn't agree more OP. As I've said in other threads before.. well see how ARFs tune in GD changes when Putin uses his propaganda resources to support the Democrat candidate in 2020. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Couldn't agree more OP. As I've said in other threads before.. well see how ARFs tune in GD changes when Putin uses his propaganda resources to support the Democrat candidate in 2020. Quoted:
Russia benefits from chaos in American politics. Russia benefits from American politics being controlled by weak, incompetent, easily manipulated pussies. |
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After the Soviet Union broke up and went into little bity separate countries, the US should have stayed on top of things {if we would have had the right presidents} and kept it that way. Now we got to do it all over again, cold war possibly turning hot. And yes they suck shit! Fuck em. View Quote Have a look at a modern NATO map, and compare it to the old USSR map, then re-assess your statement. We overwhelmingly won the peace. The big exception is the Ukraine, which happened on Obama's watch. |
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Quoted: Have a look at a modern NATO map, and compare it to the old USSR map, then re-assess your statement. We overwhelmingly won the peace. The big exception is the Ukraine, which happened on Obama's watch. View Quote |
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Quoted: Like I said. Get rid of Putin. He is the reason and the driving force behind russian imperialism and expansion. One fucking guy. There will be a power grab and vaccum without him, the rest of the old commies will kill one another to capture the throne and will set back russian expanisonism. Get rid of that little guy. View Quote If we start killing other people's leaders, what can we say when they kill ours. Putin is no different than the long line of Russian leaders before him, other than maybe Gorbachev. Taking out Putin, if it was that easy, would not likely result in a friendly pro-US leader replacing him. Same as if he took out Trump. Oh, and Russia is nuclear power, so it's not like pushing over the leader of Haiti. |
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Many modern Russians fully embrace capitalism.
They are obviously a rival, but I think they are more interested in getting rich than hating America. I think that folks like Soros, Merkel and Obama are more zealously determined to undermine our country. Most Russians just aspire to owning a Mercedes G-Wagon, Hermès luggage, possibly a mega yacht. |
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Quoted: The push to get former buffer states into NATO or the EU was to purposefully provoke Russia and the idea to make places like the Ukraine and Georgia geopolitical “pivots” was likewise purposeful. The tone for continuing conflict with Russia was set almost the second the USSR collapsed by men who said we should be “unapologetic” for exploiting those countries for our aspirations of imperial hegemony, even to the ends of immersing them into a state of constant warfare. This will come back to haunt us, just as “stirring up a bunch of Moslems” back in the late 70’s and early 80’s did. We seem to enjoy enabling future enemies for the sake of having temporary friends. View Quote |
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Quoted: The push to get former buffer states into NATO or the EU was to purposefully provoke Russia and the idea to make places like the Ukraine and Georgia geopolitical “pivots” was likewise purposeful. The tone for continuing conflict with Russia was set almost the second the USSR collapsed by men who said we should be “unapologetic” for exploiting those countries for our aspirations of imperial hegemony, even to the ends of immersing them into a state of constant warfare. This will come back to haunt us, just as “stirring up a bunch of Moslems” back in the late 70’s and early 80’s did. We seem to enjoy enabling future enemies for the sake of having temporary friends. View Quote Your " aspirations of imperial hegemony, even to the ends of immersing them into a state of constant warfare" line is perfect Cold War Soviet rubbish. |
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Quoted: "Former buffer states"? You mean nations occupied by the Soviets? Your " aspirations of imperial hegemony, even to the ends of immersing them into a state of constant warfare" line sounds like perfect Cold War Soviet rubbish. What a fucking moron View Quote |
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"An eye for an eye." If we start killing other people's leaders, what can we say when they kill ours. Putin is no different than the long line of Russian leaders before him, other than maybe Gorbachev. Taking out Putin, if it was that easy, would not likely result in a friendly pro-US leader replacing him. Same as if he took out Trump. Oh, and Russia is nuclear power, so it's not like pushing over the leader of Haiti. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Like I said. Get rid of Putin. He is the reason and the driving force behind russian imperialism and expansion. One fucking guy. There will be a power grab and vaccum without him, the rest of the old commies will kill one another to capture the throne and will set back russian expanisonism. Get rid of that little guy. If we start killing other people's leaders, what can we say when they kill ours. Putin is no different than the long line of Russian leaders before him, other than maybe Gorbachev. Taking out Putin, if it was that easy, would not likely result in a friendly pro-US leader replacing him. Same as if he took out Trump. Oh, and Russia is nuclear power, so it's not like pushing over the leader of Haiti. Western intel angencies should be doing everything they can to disrupt putins inner circle, if not putin himself, disrupt his top capitans and plant the seed of distrust amoungst them. Although it would be better just to off him, there is economic sabotage and other ways to cause him problems |
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This thread is full of houynya... the people are nice and don’t hate Americans... it’s purley politics...
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Quoted: So we can only deal with one enemy? I agree that ignoring the leftists is a huge problem. Thankfully Trump is doing something about that in a way that weak Republicans never have. That is not what this thread is about. This thread is about Russia, and how they are our enemy. Not only is the above a piss pour excuse to ignore the Russian problem, a lot of morons on this website support the Russians and spread their propaganda. View Quote The morons being churned out in massive quantities by our liberal universities, the millions of leftist hispanics flooding across our border and the media outlets that are incessantly doing everything they can to undermine this country are each FAR greater threats than Russia is. Just fucking say it. And while we're sending hundreds of billions of dollars to the right defense companies who sucked off all the right congressmen, we're doing jack fucking shit to confront our main threats like socialist public universities, our massive national debt and defending our own fucking border. Good news for the Russians is if they really want to be a dominant player, invade the US, undermine our strategic interests in money-pit sandboxes or whatever the fuck it is that they're trying to do, they'll have a much easier time doing it after our own homegrown leftists turn this country into a Venezuelan-tier shithole. So you can clamor on about how we need to best address this hyuuuge Russian threat, but none of that is going to matter when interest rates rise and the gears of this country come to a grinding halt as the economy and federal budget are simultaneously obliterated by a lack of cheap credit and higher interest payments. Soldiers will get furloughed and F-15's will be rusting on the tarmac because the govt doesn't have enough funds to maintain them and what little money they do have left is being used to appease the barbarous hungry mobs rioting and burning shit down for their EBT and the AARP hordes who won't accept any reduction in their social security or medicare payments because that would result in them not being able to make the payments on their RX350's. All the while, some douchebag like Bernie will be riling up the dipshits and will further plunge us into an authoritarian socialist state after getting elected. But Russia was such a big threat compared to all of that petty shit... |
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I don't know if anyone wants to hear form someone who actually knows many Russians, has been to Russia, has hosted Russian students, and speaks Russian but the average Russian is either neutral or positive to the United States. The middle and upper class (yes, Russia actually has a middle class) tend to have some English and enjoy American culture and film. The average Russian does not hate you.
If you want to find some commies who hate America you need to go no further than American Universities and Washington D.C. |
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So, how many people have gotten their feels hurt by this thread so far?
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I don't know if anyone wants to hear form someone who actually knows many Russians, has been to Russia, has hosted Russian students, and speaks Russian but the average Russian is either neutral or positive to the United States. The middle and upper class (yes, Russia actually has a middle class) tend to have some English and enjoy American culture and film. The average Russian does not hate you. If you want to find some commies who hate America you need to go no further than American Universities and Washington D.C. View Quote Does the average american hate an average iranian? |
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I don't know if anyone wants to hear form someone who actually knows many Russians, has been to Russia, has hosted Russian students, and speaks Russian but the average Russian is either neutral or positive to the United States. The middle and upper class (yes, Russia actually has a middle class) tend to have some English and enjoy American culture and film. The average Russian does not hate you. If you want to find some commies who hate America you need to go no further than American Universities and Washington D.C. View Quote Same experience I have had with the average Joe Russian. I know a couple dozen of them and have talked extensively with them about all this. General consensus is that they want about as much socialism and capitalism as we have. They value their Independence and want no part of Europe world government. I have far more in common with every Russian I have met then most of the hundreds of Europeans I have talked to and every democrat I have known We should never bend policy for anyone's sake except our own whether it's Russia or Europe or china but I believe Russia is no threat. The Russian people have no will to fight the USA and no good reason to. Someday I honestly believe we will have a better relationship with them than Europe. Once all the old men of the cold war (on both sides) have passed away at least. That old grudge won't die till the people who were part of it die. |
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The boomer neocon animosity here is hilarious, but kind of sad.
Currently, the largest tangible threat to the USA is Islam in any form. They could actually one of our best allies in the WOT but we need to hate them, for what exactly? They were communist once? lmao |
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The boomer neocon animosity here is hilarious, but kind of sad. Currently, the largest tangible threat to the USA is Islam in any form. They could actually one of our best allies in the WOT but we need to hate them, for what exactly? They were communist once? lmao View Quote By the exact same person, no less, who spend not an insignificant amount of time trying to argue why we should be friends with Saudi Fucking Arabia (synopsis: because the new king killed everyone, and hence, good guys all around. lol) |
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I've been told on here we need to hate them because their oil company is state-owned. By the exact same person, no less, who spend not an insignificant amount of time trying to argue why we should be friends with Saudi Fucking Arabia (synopsis: because the new king killed everyone, and hence, good guys all around. lol) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The boomer neocon animosity here is hilarious, but kind of sad. Currently, the largest tangible threat to the USA is Islam in any form. They could actually one of our best allies in the WOT but we need to hate them, for what exactly? They were communist once? lmao By the exact same person, no less, who spend not an insignificant amount of time trying to argue why we should be friends with Saudi Fucking Arabia (synopsis: because the new king killed everyone, and hence, good guys all around. lol) When one has to lie to support their claims, it doesn’t say much for the claims themselves. |
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The Ruskies are not nearly the threat of the lot of Hitler and her ilk.
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I don't know if anyone wants to hear form someone who actually knows many Russians, has been to Russia, has hosted Russian students, and speaks Russian but the average Russian is either neutral or positive to the United States. The middle and upper class (yes, Russia actually has a middle class) tend to have some English and enjoy American culture and film. The average Russian does not hate you. If you want to find some commies who hate America you need to go no further than American Universities and Washington D.C. View Quote I can pet the nicest pitbull in the world, and it'll lick my hand and be a good dog when its just me and it. But if that pit tries to rip my throat out when his owner gives it a command to kill, he's not a good dog actually, and is a threat. |
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It’s as if if you are wholly incapable of honestly representing reality as it is. View Quote I know it's not your reality. But reality is still what it is. And reality is that "you" (the US) are responsible for the situation you're in. Not Russia. Trying to project on Russia, isn't going to change that reality. Arguing like 5-year old girls "BUT THEY'RE NOT MY FRIENDS!" isn't going to change reality. So what if they're not your friends? You're a 5 year old girl who only talks to people if they are her friends? Arguing "BUT THEY'RE GOVERNMENT IS BAD!" isn't going to change reality. So what if their government is bad? Half of the US government hates you and wants you dead. 80% of the governments the US works with are bad. You're looking for good guys? You're looking in the wrong place. So it still only boils down to...CNN-watching boomers and their psychological coping mechanism. |
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The push to get former buffer states into NATO or the EU was to purposefully provoke Russia and the idea to make places like the Ukraine and Georgia geopolitical “pivots” was likewise purposeful. The tone for continuing conflict with Russia was set almost the second the USSR collapsed by men who said we should be “unapologetic” for exploiting those countries for our aspirations of imperial hegemony, even to the ends of immersing them into a state of constant warfare. This will come back to haunt us, just as “stirring up a bunch of Moslems” back in the late 70’s and early 80’s did. We seem to enjoy enabling future enemies for the sake of having temporary friends. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Have a look at a modern NATO map, and compare it to the old USSR map, then re-assess your statement. We overwhelmingly won the peace. The big exception is the Ukraine, which happened on Obama's watch. Is it possible that the victims of the horrible failings of Communism, saw the success of capitalism next door, then willingly aligned with NATO while Russia was on her knees? If you were a politician in the Baltics, Ukraine or Georgia, would you be trying to get into NATO? Or sign your people up to be Putin's bitch and continue to be under the yolk of people who have no value for life? People who have habitually exploited your people for a very long time? People want to be free and prosperous. NATO nations support freedom. |
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The boomer neocon animosity here is hilarious, but kind of sad. Currently, the largest tangible threat to the USA is Islam in any form. They could actually one of our best allies in the WOT but we need to hate them, for what exactly? They were communist once? lmao View Quote Your simplistic view ignores a fundamental problem: Russia and the US aren't on the same side in the WOT. You want to be the ally of the country aiding the Taliban and who is the biggest supporter of the nation your Secretary of Defense calls the biggest state sponsor of terror? How are you planning for this to work? Oh yes,Russians are white Christians who hate Muslims as much as you do You don't know who invented and bankrolled Islamic terror in the 1970s and don't know who paid for the largest anti-Western protests in the world Ignorance,pure ignorance. |
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Quoted: Now you are just parroting Russian talking points. Is it possible that the victims of the horrible failings of Communism, saw the success of capitalism next door, then willingly aligned with NATO while Russia was on her knees? If you were a politician in the Baltics, Ukraine or Georgia, would you be trying to get into NATO? Or sign your people up to be Putin's bitch and continue to be under the yolk of people who have no value for life? People who have habitually exploited your people for a very long time? People want to be free and prosperous. NATO nations support freedom. View Quote |
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Just can't say it can you. The morons being churned out in massive quantities by our liberal universities, the millions of leftist hispanics flooding across our border and the media outlets that are incessantly doing everything they can to undermine this country are each FAR greater threats than Russia is. Just fucking say it. And while we're sending hundreds of billions of dollars to the right defense companies who sucked off all the right congressmen, we're doing jack fucking shit to confront our main threats like socialist public universities, our massive national debt and defending our own fucking border. Good news for the Russians is if they really want to be a dominant player, invade the US, undermine our strategic interests in money-pit sandboxes or whatever the fuck it is that they're trying to do, they'll have a much easier time doing it after our own homegrown leftists turn this country into a Venezuelan-tier shithole. So you can clamor on about how we need to best address this hyuuuge Russian threat, but none of that is going to matter when interest rates rise and the gears of this country come to a grinding halt as the economy and federal budget are simultaneously obliterated by a lack of cheap credit and higher interest payments. Soldiers will get furloughed and F-15's will be rusting on the tarmac because the govt doesn't have enough funds to maintain them and what little money they do have left is being used to appease the barbarous hungry mobs rioting and burning shit down for their EBT and the AARP hordes who won't accept any reduction in their social security or medicare payments because that would result in them not being able to make the payments on their RX350's. All the while, some douchebag like Bernie will be riling up the dipshits and will further plunge us into an authoritarian socialist state after getting elected. But Russia was such a big threat compared to all of that petty shit... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: So we can only deal with one enemy? I agree that ignoring the leftists is a huge problem. Thankfully Trump is doing something about that in a way that weak Republicans never have. That is not what this thread is about. This thread is about Russia, and how they are our enemy. Not only is the above a piss pour excuse to ignore the Russian problem, a lot of morons on this website support the Russians and spread their propaganda. The morons being churned out in massive quantities by our liberal universities, the millions of leftist hispanics flooding across our border and the media outlets that are incessantly doing everything they can to undermine this country are each FAR greater threats than Russia is. Just fucking say it. And while we're sending hundreds of billions of dollars to the right defense companies who sucked off all the right congressmen, we're doing jack fucking shit to confront our main threats like socialist public universities, our massive national debt and defending our own fucking border. Good news for the Russians is if they really want to be a dominant player, invade the US, undermine our strategic interests in money-pit sandboxes or whatever the fuck it is that they're trying to do, they'll have a much easier time doing it after our own homegrown leftists turn this country into a Venezuelan-tier shithole. So you can clamor on about how we need to best address this hyuuuge Russian threat, but none of that is going to matter when interest rates rise and the gears of this country come to a grinding halt as the economy and federal budget are simultaneously obliterated by a lack of cheap credit and higher interest payments. Soldiers will get furloughed and F-15's will be rusting on the tarmac because the govt doesn't have enough funds to maintain them and what little money they do have left is being used to appease the barbarous hungry mobs rioting and burning shit down for their EBT and the AARP hordes who won't accept any reduction in their social security or medicare payments because that would result in them not being able to make the payments on their RX350's. All the while, some douchebag like Bernie will be riling up the dipshits and will further plunge us into an authoritarian socialist state after getting elected. But Russia was such a big threat compared to all of that petty shit... If you want to start the 87,000th thread in GD about how Marxist liberals are rotting America from the inside, go ahead. I will be glad to agree and contribute. Who really can't face the music in THIS thread? It is the people like you, who can't admit to themselves that they are being useful idiots for America's biggest and most dangerous foreign enemy. |
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Quoted: The push to get former buffer states into NATO or the EU was to purposefully provoke Russia and the idea to make places like the Ukraine and Georgia geopolitical “pivots” was likewise purposeful. The tone for continuing conflict with Russia was set almost the second the USSR collapsed by men who said we should be “unapologetic” for exploiting those countries for our aspirations of imperial hegemony, even to the ends of immersing them into a state of constant warfare. This will come back to haunt us, just as “stirring up a bunch of Moslems” back in the late 70’s and early 80’s did. We seem to enjoy enabling future enemies for the sake of having temporary friends. Your " aspirations of imperial hegemony, even to the ends of immersing them into a state of constant warfare" line is perfect Cold War Soviet rubbish. It's amazing how many here don't see Russia for what it is and has always been -- an evil empire, just as Reagan said. |
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