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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:18:43 AM EST
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Im curious, by a show of hands, how many of you guys firmly in the "Fuck Russia, kill em all" camp are older than 35?
How many in the "I dont give a shit, we've got commies on our doorstep" camp are under 35? It's funny, because your generations policies bred our homegrown commies, and I think my generation might be the ones to put boot to ass. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:19:42 AM EST
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Strong projection. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Talking in circles at this point? Just be honest, are you a 15 year old on mom's PC or just running out of approved copy-paste material at the troll farm cubicle? |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:19:45 AM EST
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Yep, Russia really hates those Islamists. That is they they |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:20:24 AM EST
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Right, I thought conservatives were for personal responsibility? But I guess the temptation to blame others is too strong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do realize that those are the exact "X vs X" feelings that Russia is spending time/money on stirring up in the US right? 
They have been doing it here before CNN even existed... I thought conservatives were for personal responsibility? But I guess the temptation to blame others is too strong. If you told an American in 1966, that in 50 years, one of our parties would adopt and implement Marxist ideology and one of their top candidates would openly be a socialist...They would have laughed at you, or had you committed to a mental institution. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:20:30 AM EST
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The fact that liberals are currently using Russia as a giant boogeyman tells me that Russia is probably not as bad as many would have you believe. Ask yourself this. If Trump were to fly out to a public venue to give a speech, would he get better reception by citizens in the UK or the people of Russia? Trump hasn't gone to the UK because he knows he'll get shit on by just about everyone. Ask yourself the same question but with Hollywood, San Fran, Boston, Berkeley, or just about any major US university or liberal city. Would he get better reception in those American places or would he get better reception in Russia? I have a feeling the Russian people would respect him far more, whereas in America morons would show up in droves with their pussy hats and middle fingers to let him know just how much they hate him, the people who voted for him and the constitution that this country was founded on. That tells you all you need to know. Our greatest threats are from within and it's laughable to think otherwise. 
Granted, what I just said is hyperbole, but... fuck you never know what the future might hold. Who would have thought that someday it would be illegal to refuse to use MADE UP pronouns.  Who would think that we would someday be in a world, where a pornstar would be bullied past the point of suicide... simply because she refused to fuck a gay guy.... and people would still be cheering her death after the fact? 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:21:06 AM EST
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The fact that liberals are currently using Russia as a giant boogeyman tells me that Russia is probably not as bad as many would have you believe. Ask yourself this. If Trump were to fly out to a public venue to give a speech, would he get better reception by citizens in the UK or the people of Russia? Trump hasn't gone to the UK because he knows he'll get shit on by just about everyone. Ask yourself the same question but with Hollywood, San Fran, Boston, Berkeley, or just about any major US university or liberal city. Would he get better reception in those American places or would he get better reception in Russia? I have a feeling the Russian people would respect him far more, whereas in America morons would show up in droves with their pussy hats and middle fingers to let him know just how much they hate him, the people who voted for him and the constitution that this country was founded on. That tells you all you need to know. Our greatest threats are from within and it's laughable to think otherwise. The liberals (that includes obummer, hillary and all the scum being widely exposed are the hyena inside and Putin the one outside. And, sincerely, I do not put past for a second that both hyenas are working together. We need to clean the house first and are already way late in doing so. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:21:17 AM EST
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So his beef is a strawman? I agree. That being said, the statement made on page 1 here that the average American probably has more in common with the average Russian than with the average urban "American", is still correct. It's a massively fucked up thing to say, especially because it's true. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The OP's beef is with the folks here who think Russia is a kindred spirit with the U.S. That being said, the statement made on page 1 here that the average American probably has more in common with the average Russian than with the average urban "American", is still correct. It's a massively fucked up thing to say, especially because it's true. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:22:51 AM EST
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For me the best comparison are two hyenas. One is already inside the fence attacking the chicken coop whereas the other is outside trying to get in. The liberals (that includes obummer, hillary and all the scum being widely exposed are the hyena inside and Putin the one outside. And, sincerely, I do not put past for a second that both hyenas are working together. We need to clean the house first and are already way late in doing so. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The fact that liberals are currently using Russia as a giant boogeyman tells me that Russia is probably not as bad as many would have you believe. Ask yourself this. If Trump were to fly out to a public venue to give a speech, would he get better reception by citizens in the UK or the people of Russia? Trump hasn't gone to the UK because he knows he'll get shit on by just about everyone. Ask yourself the same question but with Hollywood, San Fran, Boston, Berkeley, or just about any major US university or liberal city. Would he get better reception in those American places or would he get better reception in Russia? I have a feeling the Russian people would respect him far more, whereas in America morons would show up in droves with their pussy hats and middle fingers to let him know just how much they hate him, the people who voted for him and the constitution that this country was founded on. That tells you all you need to know. Our greatest threats are from within and it's laughable to think otherwise. The liberals (that includes obummer, hillary and all the scum being widely exposed are the hyena inside and Putin the one outside. And, sincerely, I do not put past for a second that both hyenas are working together. We need to clean the house first and are already way late in doing so. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:23:01 AM EST
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Conservatives saw this bullshit coming and did a lot to try and stop it. If you told an American in 1966, that in 50 years, one of our parties would adopt and implement Marxist ideology and one of their top candidates would openly be a socialist...They would have laughed at you, or had you committed to a mental institution. Rather than blame someone who was acting in their own self interest. You don't blame gun companies for gun deaths, do you? |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:23:05 AM EST
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I remember Putin telling the Refugees, that "We don't need you... you need us, so follow our rules" as opposed to the EU where they allow them to rape their women with Impunity. OH and you can be jailed for simply arguing that we shouldn't allow these barbarians in our lands. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: There is zero fundamental difference between Russia's and most Western countries' policies wrt Islam and Islamic immigration. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/66/28/c0/6628c0d309ead3cd1fc475e14951a814.jpg https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-mosque/putin-opens-moscows-largest-mosque-warns-against-extremists-idUSKCN0RN1UD20150923 What you believe is based on reading things targeted to you by people playing you for a fool. If you want to find countries actually resisting Muslim immigration and standing up against the "Islam is a peaceful religion" narrative, you will find them in NATO countries like Poland and Hungary - countries which, interestingly enough, are under immense political and economic pressure from Russia. Meanwhile, Putin and Erdogan hanging out for the opening of that Mosque in Moscow, and Putin’s speech there, was ignored by the same. It was as if the injectors of outside information into that information sphere saw fit to let it stay quiet. It’s all about the narrative, and knowing what your audience wants to hear, or needs to hear. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:24:14 AM EST
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Im curious, by a show of hands, how many of you guys firmly in the "Fuck Russia, kill em all" camp are older than 35? How many in the "I dont give a shit, we've got commies on our doorstep" camp are under 35? Finally some honesty from you guys here. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:24:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For me the best comparison are two hyenas. One is already inside the fence attacking the chicken coop whereas the other is outside trying to get in. The liberals (that includes obummer, hillary and all the scum being widely exposed are the hyena inside and Putin the one outside. And, sincerely, I do not put past for a second that both hyenas are working together. We need to clean the house first and are already way late in doing so. I'm not so sure Russia is still involved in that now. That would be some giant 5d chess to be behind the liberals and media institutions who nearly got a woman elected that was hell-bent on getting us involved in a direct confrontation with them. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:25:45 AM EST
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So his beef is a strawman? I agree. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The OP's beef is with the folks here who think Russia is a kindred spirit with the U.S. Like cavemen escaped from their cave. A beast of burden. Probably useful. Until the next strongman wrestles control of the whip. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:25:55 AM EST
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Meanwhile, Putin and Erdogan hanging out for the opening of that Mosque in Moscow, and Putin’s speech there, was ignored by the same. Just like us. lol |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:26:23 AM EST
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FTFY Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yep, Russia really hates those Islamists. That is they they What a world your mind lives in. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:26:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember that blurb receiving little to no domestic Russian exposure yet lighting up the western Right wing echo chamber like a Christmas tree. To get your news only for such sources, you'd think Putin has only spoken about Islam maybe 5 times in the last 10 years. Meanwhile, Putin and Erdogan hanging out for the opening of that Mosque in Moscow, and Putin's speech there, was ignored by the same. It was as if the injectors of outside information into that information sphere saw fit to let it stay quiet. It's all about the narrative, and knowing what your audience wants to hear, or needs to hear. OH, and lets get rid of Trump... Because he's a Russian agent, and we need a *REAL* American like Hillary.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:27:19 AM EST
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Good analogy. Which one to shoot first? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The fact that liberals are currently using Russia as a giant boogeyman tells me that Russia is probably not as bad as many would have you believe. Ask yourself this. If Trump were to fly out to a public venue to give a speech, would he get better reception by citizens in the UK or the people of Russia? Trump hasn't gone to the UK because he knows he'll get shit on by just about everyone. Ask yourself the same question but with Hollywood, San Fran, Boston, Berkeley, or just about any major US university or liberal city. Would he get better reception in those American places or would he get better reception in Russia? I have a feeling the Russian people would respect him far more, whereas in America morons would show up in droves with their pussy hats and middle fingers to let him know just how much they hate him, the people who voted for him and the constitution that this country was founded on. That tells you all you need to know. Our greatest threats are from within and it's laughable to think otherwise. The liberals (that includes obummer, hillary and all the scum being widely exposed are the hyena inside and Putin the one outside. And, sincerely, I do not put past for a second that both hyenas are working together. We need to clean the house first and are already way late in doing so. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:27:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The core of the success of this theme is the idea that concern is a zero sum game, that Russia is a "distraction" from being able to also be concerned about such idiots. That logic is laughable, as are those who perpetuate it. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:29:26 AM EST
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The core of the success of this theme is the idea that concern is a zero sum game, that Russia is a “distraction” from being able to also be concerned about such idiots. That logic is laughable, as are those who perpetuate it. And that this Muh Russia derangement, in part or in whole, plays into the hands of the Left and our enemies. Nobody is asking you to like or be friends with Russia. That's a strawman. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:29:51 AM EST
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Meanwhile here in California the Democrats have cranked gas prices up around 3.50 a gallon, it costs 300 bucks for one years' worth of registration on a 14yr old pickup truck, an 1800sq feet dingbat house is 550k, the gun laws suck, and every day is either an illegal alien gang shootout or a gay parade and the legislators in Sacramento are trying to figure out more ways to raise taxes to cover the roughly 1.5 trillion in unfunded retirements they have for grossly overpaid, underworked state employees...
But some of you spergs want me to be more worried about Russia...LOL Quote HistoryQuoted:
The OP's beef is with the folks here who think Russia is or should be a kindred spirit with the U.S. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:30:43 AM EST
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I have no doubt that the USSR sowed the seeds that led to a lot of our current insanity. I'm not so sure Russia is still involved in that now. That would be some giant 5d chess to be behind the liberals and media institutions who nearly got a woman elected that was hell-bent on getting us involved in a direct confrontation with them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: For me the best comparison are two hyenas. One is already inside the fence attacking the chicken coop whereas the other is outside trying to get in. The liberals (that includes obummer, hillary and all the scum being widely exposed are the hyena inside and Putin the one outside. And, sincerely, I do not put past for a second that both hyenas are working together. We need to clean the house first and are already way late in doing so. I'm not so sure Russia is still involved in that now. That would be some giant 5d chess to be behind the liberals and media institutions who nearly got a woman elected that was hell-bent on getting us involved in a direct confrontation with them. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:31:49 AM EST
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There's muzzies in Russia, you guys! Did you know that? OMG! Just like us. lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meanwhile, Putin and Erdogan hanging out for the opening of that Mosque in Moscow, and Putin’s speech there, was ignored by the same. Just like us. lol lol |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:33:00 AM EST
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Spending Russian money on building them mosques and bankrolling their Islamist fatwa calls are making them their bitches? What a world your mind lives in. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:33:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The core of the success of this theme is the idea that concern is a zero sum game, that Russia is a “distraction” from being able to also be concerned about such idiots. That logic is laughable, as are those who perpetuate it. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:33:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you confirming that you guys gargling the balls of Russian propaganda are clueless tweenager accounts? Finally some honesty from you guys here. "gargling the balls". Just whose balls are you gargling? Youve said alot about "us vs them", and youve defined "them" as the "Russians", "the American left", "The American right who despise the American left". Just who do you define as "us"? |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:34:03 AM EST
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I remember that blurb receiving little to no domestic Russian exposure yet lighting up the western Right wing echo chamber like a Christmas tree. To get your news only for such sources, you’d think Putin has only spoken about Islam maybe 5 times in the last 10 years. Meanwhile, Putin and Erdogan hanging out for the opening of that Mosque in Moscow, and Putin’s speech there, was ignored by the same. It was as if the injectors of outside information into that information sphere saw fit to let it stay quiet. It’s all about the narrative, and knowing what your audience wants to hear, or needs to hear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: There is zero fundamental difference between Russia's and most Western countries' policies wrt Islam and Islamic immigration. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/66/28/c0/6628c0d309ead3cd1fc475e14951a814.jpg https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-mosque/putin-opens-moscows-largest-mosque-warns-against-extremists-idUSKCN0RN1UD20150923 What you believe is based on reading things targeted to you by people playing you for a fool. If you want to find countries actually resisting Muslim immigration and standing up against the "Islam is a peaceful religion" narrative, you will find them in NATO countries like Poland and Hungary - countries which, interestingly enough, are under immense political and economic pressure from Russia. Meanwhile, Putin and Erdogan hanging out for the opening of that Mosque in Moscow, and Putin’s speech there, was ignored by the same. It was as if the injectors of outside information into that information sphere saw fit to let it stay quiet. It’s all about the narrative, and knowing what your audience wants to hear, or needs to hear.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:34:24 AM EST
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You really are that simple, huh... lol |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:34:38 AM EST
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So you're going to compare Kazakhs and Tatars, with Somalis in Minneapolis? You really want to do that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol You really want to do that? |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:35:09 AM EST
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Quite clearly the one inside. Even if the one outside is controlling the one inside and telling it what to do, killing the one outside first will not stop the one inside. Kill the one inside and go out hunting the one outside (after fixing the fence). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The fact that liberals are currently using Russia as a giant boogeyman tells me that Russia is probably not as bad as many would have you believe. Ask yourself this. If Trump were to fly out to a public venue to give a speech, would he get better reception by citizens in the UK or the people of Russia? Trump hasn't gone to the UK because he knows he'll get shit on by just about everyone. Ask yourself the same question but with Hollywood, San Fran, Boston, Berkeley, or just about any major US university or liberal city. Would he get better reception in those American places or would he get better reception in Russia? I have a feeling the Russian people would respect him far more, whereas in America morons would show up in droves with their pussy hats and middle fingers to let him know just how much they hate him, the people who voted for him and the constitution that this country was founded on. That tells you all you need to know. Our greatest threats are from within and it's laughable to think otherwise. The liberals (that includes obummer, hillary and all the scum being widely exposed are the hyena inside and Putin the one outside. And, sincerely, I do not put past for a second that both hyenas are working together. We need to clean the house first and are already way late in doing so. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:36:13 AM EST
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Nothing like opening a "grand mosque" in your nation's capital city with the Palestinian president at your side to show how much you are against Islam in your country. *Insert picture of Minneapolis here* You really want to play that game? |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:36:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is zero fundamental difference between Russia’s and most Western countries’ policies wrt Islam and Islamic immigration. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/66/28/c0/6628c0d309ead3cd1fc475e14951a814.jpg https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-mosque/putin-opens-moscows-largest-mosque-warns-against-extremists-idUSKCN0RN1UD20150923 What you believe is based on reading things targeted to you by people playing you for a fool. If you want to find countries actually resisting Muslim immigration and standing up against the “Islam is a peaceful religion” narrative, you will find them in NATO countries like Poland and Hungary - countries which, interestingly enough, are under immense political and economic pressure from Russia. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:37:52 AM EST
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Even that article you posted, just the headline itself.... implies that Putin understands the connection between Radical Islam and ... Islam. Most of the neo-liberals of the EU and US, would *NEVER* "warn against radicalism" while talking about Islam in general. In their worldview... Muslims are no more predisposed towards violent radicalism than your typical Christian. Or even LESS so.
Russians, it seems, are realists in this regard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: There is zero fundamental difference between Russia's and most Western countries' policies wrt Islam and Islamic immigration. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/66/28/c0/6628c0d309ead3cd1fc475e14951a814.jpg https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-mosque/putin-opens-moscows-largest-mosque-warns-against-extremists-idUSKCN0RN1UD20150923 What you believe is based on reading things targeted to you by people playing you for a fool. If you want to find countries actually resisting Muslim immigration and standing up against the "Islam is a peaceful religion" narrative, you will find them in NATO countries like Poland and Hungary - countries which, interestingly enough, are under immense political and economic pressure from Russia.
Russians, it seems, are realists in this regard. Could you just imagine what arfcom would look like if Obama were to have inaugerated a national Mosque in Washington? Your propaganda is laughable and paper thin. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:38:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, Russia really hates those Islamists. That is why they put them in charge. lol https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/nintchdbpict000155868196.jpg?w=809 |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:39:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In that case, very few of the Communists were, well, Communists. Stalin wasn’t. Krushchev.... maybe was. Brezhnev wasn’t. Gorbachev wasn’t... lost all faith in the “revolution.” Putin was a true believer and a successful apparatchik. Then again, Marxist Leninist Soviet Communism was always more about justifying Kremlin supremacy than any abstract socialist idealogy. Otherwise, the Cold War tensions between the USSR and China and Yugoslavia make no sense. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:40:21 AM EST
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*Insert picture of Kazan here* *Insert picture of Minneapolis here* You really want to play that game? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing like opening a "grand mosque" in your nation's capital city with the Palestinian president at your side to show how much you are against Islam in your country. *Insert picture of Minneapolis here* You really want to play that game? Go right ahead and play that game kid. I'm waiting. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:40:21 AM EST
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Nothing like opening a "grand mosque" in your nation's capital city with the Palestinian president at your side to show how much you are against Islam in your country.
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/moscows-mayor-sergei-sobyanin-russian-businessman-suleiman-kerimov-picture-id489676014?k=6&m=489676014&s=612x612&w=0&h=yliOKuUxfNDkitu2CCb9vPMCHPAZS7cFlrdM9mExnls= Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: There is zero fundamental difference between Russia's and most Western countries' policies wrt Islam and Islamic immigration. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/66/28/c0/6628c0d309ead3cd1fc475e14951a814.jpg https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-mosque/putin-opens-moscows-largest-mosque-warns-against-extremists-idUSKCN0RN1UD20150923 What you believe is based on reading things targeted to you by people playing you for a fool. If you want to find countries actually resisting Muslim immigration and standing up against the "Islam is a peaceful religion" narrative, you will find them in NATO countries like Poland and Hungary - countries which, interestingly enough, are under immense political and economic pressure from Russia. Meanwhile, Putin and Erdogan hanging out for the opening of that Mosque in Moscow, and Putin’s speech there, was ignored by the same. It was as if the injectors of outside information into that information sphere saw fit to let it stay quiet. It’s all about the narrative, and knowing what your audience wants to hear, or needs to hear.
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/moscows-mayor-sergei-sobyanin-russian-businessman-suleiman-kerimov-picture-id489676014?k=6&m=489676014&s=612x612&w=0&h=yliOKuUxfNDkitu2CCb9vPMCHPAZS7cFlrdM9mExnls= |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:40:34 AM EST
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Russia certainly has their own geopolitical aims, however with the fall of the USSR (I do know Putin was KGB and that former Soviets still control Russia) I don't see us as having the existential ideological conflict that we previously did.
Will they be our rivals? Certainly. Occasional allies against ISIS? Possibly. Mortal foe? Doubtful. JMO. I think we can respect things they do that are positive e.g, protecting their own culture and heritage, the bravery of their troops in Syria, while still opposing - by force if needed - their aggression in East Europe and their support of Iran. The Russia hysteria, backed by baseless allegations of foreign 'collusion', is quite ironic coming from the people who have never met a commie dictator they didn't love and whose heroes met with Soviet leadership to undermine Reagan. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:40:36 AM EST
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Good analogy. Which one to shoot first? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The fact that liberals are currently using Russia as a giant boogeyman tells me that Russia is probably not as bad as many would have you believe. Ask yourself this. If Trump were to fly out to a public venue to give a speech, would he get better reception by citizens in the UK or the people of Russia? Trump hasn't gone to the UK because he knows he'll get shit on by just about everyone. Ask yourself the same question but with Hollywood, San Fran, Boston, Berkeley, or just about any major US university or liberal city. Would he get better reception in those American places or would he get better reception in Russia? I have a feeling the Russian people would respect him far more, whereas in America morons would show up in droves with their pussy hats and middle fingers to let him know just how much they hate him, the people who voted for him and the constitution that this country was founded on. That tells you all you need to know. Our greatest threats are from within and it's laughable to think otherwise. The liberals (that includes obummer, hillary and all the scum being widely exposed are the hyena inside and Putin the one outside. And, sincerely, I do not put past for a second that both hyenas are working together. We need to clean the house first and are already way late in doing so. And, to call anyone who suggests you can only focus on one hyena at a time a moran. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:41:05 AM EST
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Are you going to stand here and seriously pretend that the Russian “Islam is a religion of peace, terrorist groups are a bastardization of that massage and do not represent true Islam” narrative is in any way different from what you hear in the EU and US? You know what the difference is? The muzzies in Russia have been there for 1,000 years. Most are Russified. And Russia clamps the shit down on radicalism. Europe and US, on the other hand, actively import millions of them. They want them to come in, unlike the Russians who have been stuck with them for 1,000 years. And they welcome their radicalism. You don't think there's a difference between a Tatar who's been there for 1,000 years, and intentionally importing crazies from the ME? 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:41:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you confirming that you guys gargling the balls of Russian propaganda are clueless tweenager accounts? Finally some honesty from you guys here. Just a fucking troll who goes around accusing everyone else of what he himself is. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:41:50 AM EST
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If you wanted to expand your influence sphere into Muslim countries wouldn't you do the same? Except that you would make very clear to the Muslims in Russia to not even think about doing what their "friends" do in other countries. Putin already made a few speeches where he said Russia did not need minorities, it's minorities that needed Russia (or something close to that). So, circus is one thing, real thing is a completely different story. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:42:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You have a picture to insert here of the US president opening a mosque in the American capital city (or Minneapolis) with the Palestinian president at his side? Go right ahead and play that game kid. I'm waiting. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:42:34 AM EST
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So then, by your logic... we should do the opposite of whatever the Russians are influencing us to do? Hey guys, lets open our borders to third world immigrants with radically violent tendencies. OH, and lets get rid of Trump... Because he's a Russian agent, and we need a *REAL* American like Hillary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I remember that blurb receiving little to no domestic Russian exposure yet lighting up the western Right wing echo chamber like a Christmas tree. To get your news only for such sources, you'd think Putin has only spoken about Islam maybe 5 times in the last 10 years. Meanwhile, Putin and Erdogan hanging out for the opening of that Mosque in Moscow, and Putin's speech there, was ignored by the same. It was as if the injectors of outside information into that information sphere saw fit to let it stay quiet. It's all about the narrative, and knowing what your audience wants to hear, or needs to hear. OH, and lets get rid of Trump... Because he's a Russian agent, and we need a *REAL* American like Hillary. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:43:54 AM EST
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12 years, 30k posts and no feedback so you've never bought anything. Just a fucking troll who goes around accusing everyone else of what he himself is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Are you confirming that you guys gargling the balls of Russian propaganda are clueless tweenager accounts? Finally some honesty from you guys here. Just a fucking troll who goes around accusing everyone else of what he himself is. You kids are really failing here.
eta- Lets make this really enlightening. Have Nor_Cal run some IP comparisons on our usual russian gargler accounts and see the matches pop up just like before. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:44:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll give you that if you admit that Russia represents maybe a 10% proportional threat vs what the average Democrat voter can and will do at the ballot box. Yes, Russia is a threat. No, it's not even close to being as big of a threat as our own socialists. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:44:34 AM EST
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And you have yet to answer if you believe that Russia is a greater threat to us than our own socialists. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The core of the success of this theme is the idea that concern is a zero sum game, that Russia is a "distraction" from being able to also be concerned about such idiots. That logic is laughable, as are those who perpetuate it. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:45:16 AM EST
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lol. I'll introduce you to some Tatar girls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You have a picture to insert here of the US president opening a mosque in the American capital city (or Minneapolis) with the Palestinian president at his side? Go right ahead and play that game kid. I'm waiting. Can't even put up what he claimed he had ready to go. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:46:42 AM EST
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The fact that liberals are currently using Russia as a giant boogeyman tells me that Russia is probably not as bad as many would have you believe. Ask yourself this. If Trump were to fly out to a public venue to give a speech, would he get better reception by citizens in the UK or the people of Russia? Trump hasn't gone to the UK because he knows he'll get shit on by just about everyone. Ask yourself the same question but with Hollywood, San Fran, Boston, Berkeley, or just about any major US university or liberal city. Would he get better reception in those American places or would he get better reception in Russia? I have a feeling the Russian people would respect him far more, whereas in America morons would show up in droves with their pussy hats and middle fingers to let him know just how much they hate him, the people who voted for him and the constitution that this country was founded on. That tells you all you need to know. Our greatest threats are from within and it's laughable to think otherwise. The liberals (that includes obummer, hillary and all the scum being widely exposed are the hyena inside and Putin the one outside. And, sincerely, I do not put past for a second that both hyenas are working together. We need to clean the house first and are already way late in doing so. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:46:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've answered it several times. They are different threats, not necessarily isolated from each other, and there is zero reason not to address them each in their own way. The laughable idea that one can only address one threat at a time is, well, laughable. But keep pushing that narrative. You write like a politician. Is Russia a bigger threat to us than our own socialists or not? |
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