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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:47:20 AM EDT
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*Insert picture of Kazan here* *Insert picture of Minneapolis here* You really want to play that game? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing like opening a "grand mosque" in your nation's capital city with the Palestinian president at your side to show how much you are against Islam in your country.  *Insert picture of Minneapolis here* You really want to play that game? You are again arguing against a strawman. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:48:30 AM EDT
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I don't know why they keep dodging this. They realize just how fucked things are, so they need to point at somebody. Usually this phase passes. It doesn't provide anxiety relief for too long. Then the full realization stage comes. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:49:07 AM EDT
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You mean the same ones under attack from EU politicians for not taking refugees and under attack from Soros and Open Societies Foundation for having “Russian sympathies”? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: There is zero fundamental difference between Russia’s and most Western countries’ policies wrt Islam and Islamic immigration. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/66/28/c0/6628c0d309ead3cd1fc475e14951a814.jpg https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-mosque/putin-opens-moscows-largest-mosque-warns-against-extremists-idUSKCN0RN1UD20150923 What you believe is based on reading things targeted to you by people playing you for a fool. If you want to find countries actually resisting Muslim immigration and standing up against the “Islam is a peaceful religion” narrative, you will find them in NATO countries like Poland and Hungary - countries which, interestingly enough, are under immense political and economic pressure from Russia. Are you trying to insinuate that supporting NATO and having a realistic view of Russia’s interests and messaging means one also has to be a Soros supporter? Do these false dichotomies ever end with you people? |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:49:43 AM EDT
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No, they just want to continue existing. They don't want to be forced to swallow the blue pill of Neo-Liberalism, open up their borders to third world TRASH, that think rape is a viable past time and enjoy cutting people's heads off. Between the EU and Russia, I think the EU is the bigger threat. This is mostly due to the fact that the EU is given undue respect. At least with the Russian government, we know they are mostly corrupt and can't be 100% trusted. But people stick their head in the sand and pretend the EU is this super democratic beautiful Utopia that America needs to emulate. Heck what a sad thing that Bush didn't get to enact his wet dream of a North American Union 
Because what a wonderful world we would live in, if you could be arrested for criticizing the super-state's immigration policies. What a wonderful world we could live in, if politicians can jail you simply for criticizing them. Whatever you can say about the Russians, ... you can certainly say about the EU. The problem is, the world ACCEPTS the truth about Russia, but acts like you're a crazy conspiracy theorist retard if you believe the truth about the EU. For that reason, the EU is a bigger threat. The guy you know is sketchy is always less of a threat than the sketchy guy you don't know about. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:50:42 AM EDT
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The “whataboutism” game? You are again arguing against a strawman. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The “whataboutism” game? You are again arguing against a strawman. Quoted:
Can't even put up what he claimed he had ready to go.  |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:50:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is zero fundamental difference between Russia's and most Western countries' policies wrt Islam and Islamic immigration. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/66/28/c0/6628c0d309ead3cd1fc475e14951a814.jpg https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-mosque/putin-opens-moscows-largest-mosque-warns-against-extremists-idUSKCN0RN1UD20150923 What you believe is based on reading things targeted to you by people playing you for a fool. If you want to find countries actually resisting Muslim immigration and standing up against the "Islam is a peaceful religion" narrative, you will find them in NATO countries like Poland and Hungary - countries which, interestingly enough, are under immense political and economic pressure from Russia. 
The EU is literally trying to do everything it can to force Poland into compliance. The EU has far more power over Poland than Russia... so excuse me if I am more concerned about the EU's tyrannical hold over their member-states than some stupid Russo-Phobic bullshit. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:51:19 AM EDT
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Funny how your "something close to that" was for external distribution. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: There is zero fundamental difference between Russia's and most Western countries' policies wrt Islam and Islamic immigration. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/66/28/c0/6628c0d309ead3cd1fc475e14951a814.jpg https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-mosque/putin-opens-moscows-largest-mosque-warns-against-extremists-idUSKCN0RN1UD20150923 What you believe is based on reading things targeted to you by people playing you for a fool. If you want to find countries actually resisting Muslim immigration and standing up against the "Islam is a peaceful religion" narrative, you will find them in NATO countries like Poland and Hungary - countries which, interestingly enough, are under immense political and economic pressure from Russia. Meanwhile, Putin and Erdogan hanging out for the opening of that Mosque in Moscow, and Putin’s speech there, was ignored by the same. It was as if the injectors of outside information into that information sphere saw fit to let it stay quiet. It’s all about the narrative, and knowing what your audience wants to hear, or needs to hear.
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/moscows-mayor-sergei-sobyanin-russian-businessman-suleiman-kerimov-picture-id489676014?k=6&m=489676014&s=612x612&w=0&h=yliOKuUxfNDkitu2CCb9vPMCHPAZS7cFlrdM9mExnls= |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:54:36 AM EDT
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Really? Angele Merkele has literally been trying to push the EU to impose sanctions on Poland and Hungary, and force them to pay "reparations" for refusing to import refugees.
The EU is literally trying to do everything it can to force Poland into compliance. The EU has far more power over Poland than Russia... so excuse me if I am more concerned about the EU's tyrannical hold over their member-states than some stupid Russo-Phobic bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: There is zero fundamental difference between Russia's and most Western countries' policies wrt Islam and Islamic immigration. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/66/28/c0/6628c0d309ead3cd1fc475e14951a814.jpg https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-mosque/putin-opens-moscows-largest-mosque-warns-against-extremists-idUSKCN0RN1UD20150923 What you believe is based on reading things targeted to you by people playing you for a fool. If you want to find countries actually resisting Muslim immigration and standing up against the "Islam is a peaceful religion" narrative, you will find them in NATO countries like Poland and Hungary - countries which, interestingly enough, are under immense political and economic pressure from Russia.
The EU is literally trying to do everything it can to force Poland into compliance. The EU has far more power over Poland than Russia... so excuse me if I am more concerned about the EU's tyrannical hold over their member-states than some stupid Russo-Phobic bullshit. Using that as a reason to swallow the propaganda of societies without such divisions is absurd, but nothing new. Authoritarian regimes have always sought to exploit such divisions to advance their agenda and undermine opposition to it internationally. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:55:50 AM EDT
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The "minorities" in many places have been successfully using their (Russians) playbook to screw-up several countries. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:56:46 AM EDT
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You, literally, started the watabatism game. I replied in kind. I didn't post pictures there because it is literally too depressing to find pictures of what Minneapolis has become. It's too depressing. I wouldn't want to put myself, or you, through it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The “whataboutism” game? You are again arguing against a strawman. Quoted:
Can't even put up what he claimed he had ready to go. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:56:46 AM EDT
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You, literally, started the watabatism game. I replied in kind. I didn't post pictures there because it is literally too depressing to find pictures of what Minneapolis has become. It's too depressing. I wouldn't want to put myself, or you, through it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The “whataboutism” game? You are again arguing against a strawman. Quoted:
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:57:39 AM EDT
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Again, political division in the West - or any real Democratic society - will be and will always be. Using that as a reason to swallow the propaganda of societies without such divisions is absurd, but nothing new. Authoritarian regimes have always sought to exploit such divisions to advance their agenda and undermine opposition to ot internationally. Well, I guess we know where your priorities are. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:57:48 AM EDT
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And for the umpteenth time you still haven't answered it. You write like a politician. Is Russia a bigger threat to us than our own socialists or not? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I've answered it several times. They are different threats, not necessarily isolated from each other, and there is zero reason not to address them each in their own way. The laughable idea that one can only address one threat at a time is, well, laughable. But keep pushing that narrative. You write like a politician. Is Russia a bigger threat to us than our own socialists or not? Both threats are serious threats, and not exactly isolated from each other. Today’s Democratic Party is essentially a child of the Kremlin of the 1950s. So using it as an excuse to dismiss modern Kremlin efforts is particularly laughable. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:57:52 AM EDT
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Why is literally every thing you post a lie. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The “whataboutism” game? You are again arguing against a strawman. Quoted:
Can't even put up what he claimed he had ready to go. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:58:47 AM EDT
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Meanwhile here in California the Democrats have cranked gas prices up around 3.50 a gallon, it costs 300 bucks for one years' worth of registration on a 14yr old pickup truck, an 1800sq feet dingbat house is 550k, the gun laws suck, and every day is either an illegal alien gang shootout or a gay parade and the legislators in Sacramento are trying to figure out more ways to raise taxes to cover the roughly 1.5 trillion in unfunded retirements they have for grossly overpaid, underworked state employees... But some of you spergs want me to be more worried about Russia...LOL Nobody here thinks that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Meanwhile here in California the Democrats have cranked gas prices up around 3.50 a gallon, it costs 300 bucks for one years' worth of registration on a 14yr old pickup truck, an 1800sq feet dingbat house is 550k, the gun laws suck, and every day is either an illegal alien gang shootout or a gay parade and the legislators in Sacramento are trying to figure out more ways to raise taxes to cover the roughly 1.5 trillion in unfunded retirements they have for grossly overpaid, underworked state employees... But some of you spergs want me to be more worried about Russia...LOL Quoted:
The OP's beef is with the folks here who think Russia is or should be a kindred spirit with the U.S. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:58:47 AM EDT
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Why is literally every thing you post a lie. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:00:22 AM EDT
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Today’s Democratic Party is essentially a child of the Kremlin of the 1950s. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:00:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am challenging the underlying logic of your bullshit question. Don't ask me a "when did you stop beating your wife" question and not expect me to challenge the underlying logic. Both threats are serious threats, and not exactly isolated from each other. Today's Democratic Party is essentially a child of the Kremlin of the 1950s. So using it as an excuse to dismiss modern Kremlin efforts is particularly laughable. Sad. The Tsunami of socialism that is about to hit in the Midterms and in 2020 is clearly a greater threat than Russia. Maybe you were just blind the whole time. Russia is a threat. Our own socialists are a far greater threat. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:04:37 AM EDT
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There's a saying about a fool and what the truth looks like to him. I...can't recall it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why is literally every thing you post a lie. It is not surprising that you couldn't tell me. Sorry about your slow genetics. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:05:41 AM EDT
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Well, fortunately Russia elected a US President who will build us a wall and put a stop to this. Thanks Russia. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "minorities" in many places have been successfully using their (Russians) playbook to screw-up several countries. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:06:35 AM EDT
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Sick and tired of all the bullshit Putin and Russia dick sucking going on. That seemed to be popularized during the Obama administration and still hasn't completely faded away. Just because Obama was a POS President, doesn't make Putin and Russia our ally ( ). That's like having a druggy, jail bird cousin, and you both end up in a fight with a armed robber who is trying to take your shit or murder you, and picking HIS side instead of your own cousin. Like thinking the armed attacker whose trying to rob or kill you, has your interest more at heart, than your own fucking blood.
Russians and the Government of Russia hates America and everything it stands for. It wants to knock us down, and take over. Putin, wants to recreate the Soviet Union. He might not be able to achieve that, but that doesn't make him our friend. Fuck Russia, and may they die a slow painful death. 
 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:07:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah, always the need to blame some external force for all one's shortcomings. I guess they don't teach about FDR in US schools anymore? At least the USSR allowed your family to follow along traditional lines. If American leftists got their dream utopia... their police would blow your brains out for refusing to suck a "woman's penis".
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:08:09 AM EDT
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Holy shit, this thread is taking no prisoners.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:08:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:10:58 AM EDT
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America's Communists are far worse than the Communists of the USSR. At least the USSR allowed your family to follow along traditional lines. If American leftists got their dream utopia... their police would blow your brains out for refusing to suck a "woman's penis". Sorry, I mean SAD. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:11:45 AM EDT
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In Russia, vigilante groups entrap and beat the shit out of would-be child molestors. In America, our media pushes out propaganda trying to normalize pedophilia.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:12:51 AM EDT
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In America, our media pushes out propaganda trying to normalize pedophilia. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:14:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am challenging the underlying logic of your bullshit question. Don’t ask me a “when did you stop beating your wife” question and not expect me to challenge the underlying logic. Both threats are serious threats, and not exactly isolated from each other. Today’s Democratic Party is essentially a child of the Kremlin of the 1950s. So using it as an excuse to dismiss modern Kremlin efforts is particularly laughable. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:16:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia is a boogeyman. They are goyim to enslave your children...and collude your elections.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:17:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, political division in the West - or any real Democratic society - will be and will always be. Using that as a reason to swallow the propaganda of societies without such divisions is absurd, but nothing new. Authoritarian regimes have always sought to exploit such divisions to advance their agenda and undermine opposition to it internationally. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:24:01 AM EDT
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Yeah, but, Russian made them do it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In America, our media pushes out propaganda trying to normalize pedophilia.
Or was that just another lie that you didn't have a copy-paste to follow up with kid? |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:24:59 AM EDT
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The good news is when the Democrats take control in 2020, they're going to be very tough on Russia.
You have no idea how many socialist liberals loathe Russia right now because they genuinely believe Russia stole the election from their anointed empress and foisted Trump upon them. When it comes to Russia, most of the liberals I talk to are now bigger saber rattlers than the old breed warmongers on this forum. I was arguing with a liberal the other day who was seriously saying we need multiple carrier task forces in the Barents and Baltic Sea Those Russians are really good at 4D chess by making former anti-war hippies want to push their shit in. And of course, they're going to be hellbent on destroying all the pro-trump Russian bots like myself. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:25:31 AM EDT
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Maybe the Russians can help you finally post those "American president opening a mosque with the Pali president at his side" type pictures you said you had at the ready?
Or was that just another lie that you didn't have a copy-paste to follow up with kid? |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:26:15 AM EDT
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In Russia, vigilante groups entrap and beat the shit out of would-be child molestors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyMnrCdsTqQ |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:27:40 AM EDT
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Met lots of Russians and Bulgarians, Polish, etc you name it in my line of work.
They all seem to hate eachother WAY more than they hate the US I have also yet to meet any of them who strike me as an actual communist. . . . And living in Seattle I have a damn good idea of what those fuckers look like. Lots of boomers had their heads fucked with during the cold war. That same sentiment is being used on the same demographic right now to convince them Donald Trump is a Russian plant
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:28:26 AM EDT
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The good news is when the Democrats take control in 2020, they're going to be very tough on Russia. You have no idea how many socialist liberals loathe Russia right now because they genuinely believe Russia stole the election from their anointed empress and foisted Trump upon them. When it comes to Russia, most of the liberals I talk to are now bigger saber rattlers than the old breed warmongers on this forum. I was arguing with a liberal the other day who was saying we need carrier task forces in the Barents and Baltic Sea Those Russians are really good at 4D chess by making former anti-war hippies want to push their shit in. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:28:36 AM EDT
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Im curious, by a show of hands, how many of you guys firmly in the "Fuck Russia, kill em all" camp are older than 35? How many in the "I dont give a shit, we've got commies on our doorstep" camp are under 35? It's funny, because your generations policies bred our homegrown commies, and I think my generation might be the ones to put boot to ass. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:29:37 AM EDT
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Lol, the Russia scare is being used to pressure countries like Poland and Hungary to capitulate to EU policy that will destroy Western civilization. It’s being used here to attempt a coup against a duly elected president and is supported by actual communists. Soros has an active campaign to paint the Hungarian President as a Putin lackey. They have successfully painted the nationalist candidates in several European elections as pro-Russians to their failure too. Poland and the Czech Republic are making plans to go it alone if they have to because they don’t trust the EU not to fuck them. Go back and read Brzezinski’s “The Grand Chessboard” he actually talks about Europe and Russia needing each other.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Again, political division in the West - or any real Democratic society - will be and will always be. Using that as a reason to swallow the propaganda of societies without such divisions is absurd, but nothing new. Authoritarian regimes have always sought to exploit such divisions to advance their agenda and undermine opposition to it internationally. The type of analysis you would expect from the TSG.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:29:50 AM EDT
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LETS ALL VOTE HILLARY! BECAUSE DRUMPF IS A RUSSIAN AGENT! Meanwhile...In Russia 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:29:59 AM EDT
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That same sentiment is being used on the same demographic right now to convince them Donald Trump is a Russian plant |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:31:00 AM EDT
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LETS ALL VOTE HILLARY! BECAUSE DRUMPF IS A RUSSIAN AGENT! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Russia is a boogeyman. They are goyim to enslave your children...and collude your elections. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:32:15 AM EDT
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No that's called a strawman that you made up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe the Russians can help you finally post those "American president opening a mosque with the Pali president at his side" type pictures you said you had at the ready?
Or was that just another lie that you didn't have a copy-paste to follow up with kid? Not lying might buy that retread account some more time. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:32:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol. I'll introduce you to some Tatar girls. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:32:45 AM EDT
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You said you could post up pics showing the same thing.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:34:34 AM EDT
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I'm right in the middle, and squarely in the Fuck Russia camp - so what now? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Im curious, by a show of hands, how many of you guys firmly in the "Fuck Russia, kill em all" camp are older than 35? How many in the "I dont give a shit, we've got commies on our doorstep" camp are under 35? It's funny, because your generations policies bred our homegrown commies, and I think my generation might be the ones to put boot to ass. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:34:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol. I'll introduce you to some Tatar girls. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:35:29 AM EDT
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^^^Xactly. Meanwhile...In Russia https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f8/1f/d1/f81fd11790dbdf30d4f53a53280b047c.gif They have crazy statistics for drunk deaths whenever there's snow on the ground, which is 50-60% of the time. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:35:50 AM EDT
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I love how this thread makes it so clear that there's plenty of foreign agents on this board...
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:36:22 AM EDT
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Pics please. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:36:51 AM EDT
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Pics please. 
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