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Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:15:21 PM EDT
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It is interesting that in Brazil and Cuba there is a lot of social preference for "lighter skin" (perceived as being "better" and discrimination against "darker skin"...

An observation for what it is worth...
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I was thinking about this last night.  The left is importing a bunch of Latins to end "white supremacy."  Yet Latin culture is explicitly white supremacist.  The lighter your skin, the higher up you are in society.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:15:43 PM EDT
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The party that did that does not admit its mistake, instead it is racing towards bringing it back.

America "admitting mistakes" is a systematic attempt by evil people worldwide to put down completely innocent people in order to take advantage of them.

It gains us nothing and will destroy us.
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Yup.... still doesn't change the fact that after slavery there was massive issue of that whole Jim Crow Segregation thing.
The party that did that does not admit its mistake, instead it is racing towards bringing it back.

America "admitting mistakes" is a systematic attempt by evil people worldwide to put down completely innocent people in order to take advantage of them.

It gains us nothing and will destroy us.
So Democrats are still going to be Authoritarian shitlords.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:16:04 PM EDT
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Yup.... still doesn't change the fact that after slavery there was massive issue of that whole Jim Crow Segregation thing.
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I didn't say White People, I said America. We do need to as a country accept our fuck ups just as much as our accomplishments.
Yeah slavery bad but whites ended slavery while most of the world still practiced it. Blacks have been handed everything in a silver platter and yet they're still not integrated
Yup.... still doesn't change the fact that after slavery there was massive issue of that whole Jim Crow Segregation thing.
Because the plan was to send them back after the civil war. After Lincoln was assassinated that changed to using them to punish the South.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:16:35 PM EDT
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Never said white are a monolithic culture. But why did the Irish Italians Germans and whoever else came from Europe integrated well into American culture but blacks that have been here for 400 years still haven’t
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Funny thing about the Krauts, Ben Franklin didn't want them here because he felt they wouldn't assimilate and threatened the dominant English culture of the Pennsylvania colony. He was right, they didn't fully integrate until World War 1. Before that, German was the second most spoken language in the country and German-only newspapers, schools, and businesses were prevalent. You still have small groups here that speak a variant of German.
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Is culture the same as race? No. So stop lumping the two together.
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No but in general certain races will adhere to certain cultures/lifestyles.

People want to fit in. Some more than other. There will always be outliers. So I will continue to lump them together as it seems fit to do so. Otherwise there wouldn't be things called "Black Culture" or "White Culture" right?
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The United Kingdom did it pretty good among the Empire.
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Explain.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:20:21 PM EDT
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The party that did that does not admit its mistake, instead it is racing towards bringing it back.

America "admitting mistakes" is a systematic attempt by evil people worldwide to put down completely innocent people in order to take advantage of them.

It gains us nothing and will destroy us.
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We are modernized slaves.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:21:56 PM EDT
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Also, the Democrats explicitly state that the reason they import immigrants is to use them as slaves. Of both the vote and menial labor varieties.
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Yep. The only threat to the 1% or what ever number they are is the middle class. Best way to remove the middle class is to dilute them into the slave class. A large amount of kings and queens with the entire world waiting on their every need.

ETA: Work is for suckers.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:29:30 PM EDT
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Because the plan was to send them back after the civil war. After Lincoln was assassinated that changed to using them to punish the South.
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I didn't say White People, I said America. We do need to as a country accept our fuck ups just as much as our accomplishments.
Yeah slavery bad but whites ended slavery while most of the world still practiced it. Blacks have been handed everything in a silver platter and yet they're still not integrated
Yup.... still doesn't change the fact that after slavery there was massive issue of that whole Jim Crow Segregation thing.
Because the plan was to send them back after the civil war. After Lincoln was assassinated that changed to using them to punish the South.
Yup, but that isn't discussed in most circles.
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Funny thing about the Krauts, Ben Franklin didn't want them here because he felt they wouldn't assimilate and threatened the dominant English culture of the Pennsylvania colony. He was right, they didn't fully integrate until World War 1. Before that, German was the second most spoken language in the country and German-only newspapers, schools, and businesses were prevalent. You still have small groups here that speak a variant of German.
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Never said white are a monolithic culture. But why did the Irish Italians Germans and whoever else came from Europe integrated well into American culture but blacks that have been here for 400 years still haven't
Funny thing about the Krauts, Ben Franklin didn't want them here because he felt they wouldn't assimilate and threatened the dominant English culture of the Pennsylvania colony. He was right, they didn't fully integrate until World War 1. Before that, German was the second most spoken language in the country and German-only newspapers, schools, and businesses were prevalent. You still have small groups here that speak a variant of German.
It was actually WWII. German was the second most spoken language in the US up to WWII.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:32:52 PM EDT
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No but in general certain races will adhere to certain cultures/lifestyles.

People want to fit in. Some more than other. There will always be outliers. So I will continue to lump them together as it seems fit to do so. Otherwise there wouldn't be things called "Black Culture" or "White Culture" right?
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Is culture the same as race? No. So stop lumping the two together.
No but in general certain races will adhere to certain cultures/lifestyles.

People want to fit in. Some more than other. There will always be outliers. So I will continue to lump them together as it seems fit to do so. Otherwise there wouldn't be things called "Black Culture" or "White Culture" right?
There isn't a mono Black Culture or White Culture. My wife is Black, born and raised in Puerto Rico. Black Boricua have nothing in common culturally with Mainland Black Americans.

My family is Cuban, we have nothing thst connects us with Cajuns or Amish. Yet we're all White.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:32:55 PM EDT
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If you want more white people, it is up to you to make them.  There are lots of orthodox Jewish families in my area with a half dozen+ kids.

Why arent you doing your part?

I'm apparently part of the problem with just two kids, but who can afford more.
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You don't have government help supporting them.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:34:38 PM EDT
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There isn't a mono Black Culture or White Culture. My wife is Black, born and raised in Puerto Rico. Black Boricua have nothing in common culturally with Mainland Black Americans.

My family is Cuban, we have nothing thst connects us with Cajuns or Amish. Yet we're all White.
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You just said it yourself. Black Boricua, Mainland Black. Still, a culture with a race title. Not sure what your point is. I don't disagree with you.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:36:07 PM EDT
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There isn't a mono Black Culture or White Culture. My wife is Black, born and raised in Puerto Rico. Black Boricua have nothing in common culturally with Mainland Black Americans.

My family is Cuban, we have nothing thst connects us with Cajuns or Amish. Yet we're all White.
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Dude stop you’re not white get over it
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:37:17 PM EDT
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It was actually WWII. German was the second most spoken language in the US up to WWII.
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Yeah then what happened after WW2 we started importing the 3rd world
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The United Kingdom did it pretty good among the Empire.
Explain.
When the Crown ended Slavery in the colonies. There wasn't the same level of systemic oppression and instesd there was a more pushed incorporation of Blacks into society. Now the Rhodesia and South Africa are the exception to that. But the general societal absorption of Blacks into the colonies went fairly well. Blacks rose in economic, educational, and social class as time progressed. They weren't segregated from the civil service the same way we did. They had the same general access to services, goods, and society as a White or Indian/Coloured person of similar economic class did in the Empire.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:40:04 PM EDT
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Yeah then what happened after WW2 we started importing the 3rd world
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We brought in the refugees of WW2. Those refugees in turn worked their way into positions to make the decisions to import the 3rd world.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:40:31 PM EDT
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Is culture the same as race? No. So stop lumping the two together.
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So you think the two have no correlation to each other. You’re either disingenuous or lack rational thinking skills, both of which scare me for you being in LE
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:41:37 PM EDT
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When the Crown ended Slavery in the colonies. There wasn't the same level of systemic oppression and instesd there was a more pushed incorporation of Blacks into society. Now the Rhodesia and South Africa are the exception to that. But the general societal absorption of Blacks into the colonies went fairly well. Blacks rose in economic, educational, and social class as time progressed. They weren't segregated from the civil service the same way we did. They had the same general access to services, goods, and society as a White or Indian/Coloured person of similar economic class did in the Empire.
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How well did diversity work out for Rhodesia and South Africa. Because that’s the future here
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When the Crown ended Slavery in the colonies. There wasn't the same level of systemic oppression and instesd there was a more pushed incorporation of Blacks into society. Now the Rhodesia and South Africa are the exception to that. But the general societal absorption of Blacks into the colonies went fairly well. Blacks rose in economic, educational, and social class as time progressed. They weren't segregated from the civil service the same way we did. They had the same general access to services, goods, and society as a White or Indian/Coloured person of similar economic class did in the Empire.
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Well this depends entirely on where the colonies were and what they were left with(peoples).
Also, you can't deny that there isn't any underlying anger or hatred from those left colonies.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:43:36 PM EDT
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You just said it yourself. Black Boricua, Mainland Black. Still, a culture with a race title. Not sure what your point is. I don't disagree with you.
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There isn't a mono Black Culture or White Culture. My wife is Black, born and raised in Puerto Rico. Black Boricua have nothing in common culturally with Mainland Black Americans.

My family is Cuban, we have nothing thst connects us with Cajuns or Amish. Yet we're all White.
You just said it yourself. Black Boricua, Mainland Black. Still, a culture with a race title. Not sure what your point is. I don't disagree with you.
There is no Black Boricua culture in Puerto Rico. There is just Boricua. Boricua means Island born Puerto Rican. The Mainland born Puerto Ricans are different thsn the Island born ones.

She just happens to be Black, but she is Boricua.

Boricua culture is different than Cubans too. Even though we have a shared past and language. There was a split long ago.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:45:52 PM EDT
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Yeah then what happened after WW2 we started importing the 3rd world
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It was actually WWII. German was the second most spoken language in the US up to WWII.
Yeah then what happened after WW2 we started importing the 3rd world
No, what happened during the war is that German Americans dropped the speaking German bit because of the entire social pressures of being mistaken as supporting the Nazis. That played a big thing.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:49:53 PM EDT
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How well did diversity work out for Rhodesia and South Africa. Because that's the future here
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When the Crown ended Slavery in the colonies. There wasn't the same level of systemic oppression and instesd there was a more pushed incorporation of Blacks into society. Now the Rhodesia and South Africa are the exception to that. But the general societal absorption of Blacks into the colonies went fairly well. Blacks rose in economic, educational, and social class as time progressed. They weren't segregated from the civil service the same way we did. They had the same general access to services, goods, and society as a White or Indian/Coloured person of similar economic class did in the Empire.
How well did diversity work out for Rhodesia and South Africa. Because that's the future here
South Africa and Rhodesia instituted policies similar to Jim Crow. The oppressed people were susceptible to Socialism because in the political systems they lived in, there was no other way.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:52:16 PM EDT
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So you think the two have no correlation to each other. You're either disingenuous or lack rational thinking skills, both of which scare me for you being in LE
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Is culture the same as race? No. So stop lumping the two together.
So you think the two have no correlation to each other. You're either disingenuous or lack rational thinking skills, both of which scare me for you being in LE
I don't judge people based on color, creed, religion, ethnicity.

And no, the two honestly don't have a correlation. Culture is learned, not genetic.
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Well this depends entirely on where the colonies were and what they were left with(peoples).
Also, you can't deny that there isn't any underlying anger or hatred from those left colonies.
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When the Crown ended Slavery in the colonies. There wasn't the same level of systemic oppression and instesd there was a more pushed incorporation of Blacks into society. Now the Rhodesia and South Africa are the exception to that. But the general societal absorption of Blacks into the colonies went fairly well. Blacks rose in economic, educational, and social class as time progressed. They weren't segregated from the civil service the same way we did. They had the same general access to services, goods, and society as a White or Indian/Coloured person of similar economic class did in the Empire.
Well this depends entirely on where the colonies were and what they were left with(peoples).
Also, you can't deny that there isn't any underlying anger or hatred from those left colonies.
Some places do and some don't. But for the part the UK was far more civil and just with the acceptance of their Blacks and Coloureds than the US was after slavery ended.
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There is no Black Boricua culture in Puerto Rico. There is just Boricua. Boricua means Island born Puerto Rican. The Mainland born Puerto Ricans are different thsn the Island born ones.

She just happens to be Black, but she is Boricua.

Boricua culture is different than Cubans too. Even though we have a shared past and language. There was a split long ago.
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I don't get it. Are you saying in the US there is not any race based cultures?

The US is a different beast compared to the rest of the world, IMO.
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No, what happened during the war is that German Americans dropped the speaking German bit because of the entire social pressures of being mistaken as supporting the Nazis. That played a big thing.
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At some/any point in the US, the US will make anyone drop their originating culture because of social pressure. That is the US culture.
A culture killing culture that cries because no culture
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Some places do and some don't. But for the part the UK was far more civil and just with the acceptance of their Blacks and Coloureds than the US was after slavery ended.
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Did the UK have black slaves?
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So you dont judge people for being Nazis?

Or Baal Hammon worshipers?

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I don't judge people based on color, creed, religion, ethnicity.
So you dont judge people for being Nazis?

Or Baal Hammon worshipers?

Nazis aren't a religion.

Creed - noun
a system of Christian or other religious belief; a faith.

I also haven't met anyone that practices Ba?al Hammon (Moloch).
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I don't get it. Are you saying in the US there is not any race based cultures?

The US is a different beast compared to the rest of the world, IMO.
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There is no Black Boricua culture in Puerto Rico. There is just Boricua. Boricua means Island born Puerto Rican. The Mainland born Puerto Ricans are different thsn the Island born ones.

She just happens to be Black, but she is Boricua.

Boricua culture is different than Cubans too. Even though we have a shared past and language. There was a split long ago.
I don't get it. Are you saying in the US there is not any race based cultures?

The US is a different beast compared to the rest of the world, IMO.
I am saying that there are different cultures in the US and they're not tied to race. It just so happens to be that a certain majority of a specific group might identify with a certain culture, but it isn't the sole one. What many identity as Black American Culture is simply ghetto culture. White, Hispanics, Asians, and Blacks all identify with it. Blacks numerically are more simply because of the socio-economic environment created by Leftists after WWII, Blacks for the most part live in the ghetto.
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Some places do and some don't. But for the part the UK was far more civil and just with the acceptance of their Blacks and Coloureds than the US was after slavery ended.
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Because the power structure was in England and the blacks were a continent away in the colonies.  The North was very tolerant as well because there were very few blacks in the North.  The South had two large populations with bad blood between them.  If England was filled with cotton plantations it would have had a much rockier integration as well.
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Did the UK have black slaves?
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Some places do and some don't. But for the part the UK was far more civil and just with the acceptance of their Blacks and Coloureds than the US was after slavery ended.
Did the UK have black slaves?
Yes
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People who say "America has no culture!" are insane. Louisiana alone has at least 5 distinct cultures.
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I made a prior post about this. Always crying there is no culture so they feel the need to import.

There is so much culture in the country it's insane. We are the most multicultural place on earth. We have it all and then-some
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I am saying that there are different cultures in the US and they're not tied to race. It just so happens to be that a certain majority of a specific group might identify with a certain culture, but it isn't the sole one. What many identity as Black American Culture is simply ghetto culture. White, Hispanics, Asians, and Blacks all identify with it. Blacks numerically are more simply because of the socio-economic environment created by Leftists after WWII, Blacks for the most part live in the ghetto.
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If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck..
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Inside the current UK?
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People who say "America has no culture!" are insane. Louisiana alone has at least 5 distinct cultures.
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Cajun is honestly American. It was formed from little to no outside influences. Because no one else would view a swamp bug as food.
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Because the plan was to send them back after the civil war. After Lincoln was assassinated that changed to using them to punish the South.
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Not before the plan was to keep them in chains, and have no war.
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No but in general certain races will adhere to certain cultures/lifestyles.

People want to fit in. Some more than other. There will always be outliers. So I will continue to lump them together as it seems fit to do so. Otherwise there wouldn't be things called "Black Culture" or "White Culture" right?
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Your conflating culture with race, and that argument is stuck in an infinity loop.
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So then the whites there get what they deserved? So when whites become a minority here will we get whaat we deserve? You’ve just proven my point bud
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Your conflating culture with race, and that argument is stuck in an infinity loop.
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I am. There is however tiers of culture I guess.

Like car culture, gun culture, etc. Nothing to do with race for the most part.

But there is also cultures that are almost specific to race.
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Cajun is honestly American. It was formed from little to no outside influences. Because no one else would view a swamp bug as food.
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Well it also has a major French influence but I forgot you dont believe that they are white
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I watched a CNN segment where a Mexican dude whiter than Anderson Cooper (quite the feat) was berating Andy over Andy being racist by existing while white.

He almost cried, It was glorious.
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Give it time and that will be the narrative too.  Just look at Latin American TV shows. Hardly a brown person to be found. It's no wonder the author had to manipulate the categories to get the desired result.
I watched a CNN segment where a Mexican dude whiter than Anderson Cooper (quite the feat) was berating Andy over Andy being racist by existing while white.

He almost cried, It was glorious.
Id love to see that if you have a link

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And no, the two honestly don't have a correlation. Culture is learned, not genetic.
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Im pretty sure that’s been proven false with all of our nation building attempts like in Iraq where we tried to turn them into another America. It’s funny that shit worked for Germany and Japan. Hmmm I wonder why
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We are modernized slaves.
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Also, the Democrats explicitly state that the reason they import immigrants is to use them as slaves. Of both the vote and menial labor varieties.
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"As these utopias waned, political futures depend upon the extraction of what was feasible from the fantasies". Timothy Snyder
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I am. There is however tiers of culture I guess.

Like car culture, gun culture, etc. Nothing to do with race for the most part.

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That I agree with 100%, but in a de-railed conversation such as this opine- it does not directly correlate=depends on another  .
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