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Posted: 9/26/2023 1:36:32 PM EDT
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I have some sort of fixed stock from my original AR, a DPMS PANTHER
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Posted: 9/26/2023 1:41:45 PM EDT
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Why do I want an A2 fixed stock with a dissipator upper?
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Posted: 9/26/2023 1:47:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Retro is popular for nostalgic reasons, but it’s also clone correct for military rifles from the 50s all the way through the 90s. Entry stocks were made because telescoping carbine stocks were illegal during the assault weapon ban, and for no other reason. The military never used them. I think some police departments might have, but Only because of idiotic gun control legislation. I’m sure there are some people who prefer the look of them, but to me that will always be an assault weapon ban compliant stock, just like a thumbhole stock. That being said, I’ve got a bunch of M-16A1 type E stocks that are apparently worth a lot of money. Maybe I should sell this old stuff off instead of letting a pile up in totes? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ban era thumbholes will never be popular in the sense of retro-collectability. The fixed RRA entry stocks, Colt CS stocks, and others are gaining popularity due to the popularity of retro stuff drawn on by nostalgia. Look at the popularity now of fixed carry-handled uppers. I recall when no one wanted them. Retro is popular for nostalgic reasons, but it’s also clone correct for military rifles from the 50s all the way through the 90s. Entry stocks were made because telescoping carbine stocks were illegal during the assault weapon ban, and for no other reason. The military never used them. I think some police departments might have, but Only because of idiotic gun control legislation. I’m sure there are some people who prefer the look of them, but to me that will always be an assault weapon ban compliant stock, just like a thumbhole stock. That being said, I’ve got a bunch of M-16A1 type E stocks that are apparently worth a lot of money. Maybe I should sell this old stuff off instead of letting a pile up in totes? shorter stocks work better with body armor. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 1:51:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do I want an A2 fixed stock with a dissipator upper? Because a "Product Improved" 605 is cool.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 1:53:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Retro is popular for nostalgic reasons, but it's also clone correct for military rifles from the 50s all the way through the 90s. Entry stocks were made because telescoping carbine stocks were illegal during the assault weapon ban, and for no other reason. The military never used them. I think some police departments might have, but Only because of idiotic gun control legislation. I'm sure there are some people who prefer the look of them, but to me that will always be an assault weapon ban compliant stock, just like a thumbhole stock. That being said, I've got a bunch of M-16A1 type E stocks that are apparently worth a lot of money. Maybe I should sell this old stuff off instead of letting a pile up in totes? |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 1:57:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AR and MP5 fixed are the best stocks. Avatar doesn't check out. 
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Posted: 9/26/2023 2:19:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2023 5:54:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Retro on the civvie side of things is popular too. A number of commercial only items have gained popularity. Look at dissipators, never used by the military and only a few used by LE, much like the RRA entry stocks. But folks want 'em. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Retro is popular for nostalgic reasons, but it's also clone correct for military rifles from the 50s all the way through the 90s. Entry stocks were made because telescoping carbine stocks were illegal during the assault weapon ban, and for no other reason. The military never used them. I think some police departments might have, but Only because of idiotic gun control legislation. I'm sure there are some people who prefer the look of them, but to me that will always be an assault weapon ban compliant stock, just like a thumbhole stock. That being said, I've got a bunch of M-16A1 type E stocks that are apparently worth a lot of money. Maybe I should sell this old stuff off instead of letting a pile up in totes? We should bring back mini y comps, especially the knock off one they put on the imported pre-2004 cetme. Nothing like hog hunting with a few dudes who unleash half a mag each at a couple pigs and then no one can hear for oh, 2 or 3 days. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:01:07 PM EDT
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What's the appeal here, is it just comfort?
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:02:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We should bring back mini y comps, especially the knock off one they put on the imported pre-2004 cetme. Nothing like hog hunting with a few dudes who unleash half a mag each at a couple pigs and then no one can hear for oh, 2 or 3 days. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:06:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the appeal here, is it just comfort? That, cloning and nostalgia for old guys. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:11:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey @Aimless, if you ever want to get rid of a Sully, I'll take it. I'd like to build a retro dissy like this with one. https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.f9508024a3d021a0c2af9d0972aa9150?rik=J1poGeTDwRS7%2bw&riu=http%3a%2f%2fi1138.photobucket.com%2falbums%2fn540%2fdirt28%2fIMG_3623_zpsdnlyc1ap.jpg&ehk=UX3OwQxCnFCE5vxJXheIQJ%2bvx7ZVCETtKqW91BJj2M8%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have an entry stock but can't find it. I have two sully stocks and some NIB colt a1 length newer style stocks https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.f9508024a3d021a0c2af9d0972aa9150?rik=J1poGeTDwRS7%2bw&riu=http%3a%2f%2fi1138.photobucket.com%2falbums%2fn540%2fdirt28%2fIMG_3623_zpsdnlyc1ap.jpg&ehk=UX3OwQxCnFCE5vxJXheIQJ%2bvx7ZVCETtKqW91BJj2M8%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0 Hell, I'll buy the other one. I love the looks of the Sully stock |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:13:41 PM EDT
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I own a fair amount of old gun junk, but I’ve never owned a rifle with a fixed stock.
Well, except for a ban-era Bushmaster with fixed M4 stock and mini-y comp. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:15:23 PM EDT
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Fixed stock master race checking in. This post makes me want to get a MK12 build going.
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:23:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We should bring back mini y comps, especially the knock off one they put on the imported pre-2004 cetme. Nothing like hog hunting with a few dudes who unleash half a mag each at a couple pigs and then no one can hear for oh, 2 or 3 days. The brake Armalite used on the old ban-era AR-10s was also an ear-destroyer. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:27:03 PM EDT
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Entry Stock, midi gas, triangular handguards, 16" barrel.
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:28:17 PM EDT
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Gross.
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:30:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WHAT?!?!?!?! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We should bring back mini y comps, especially the knock off one they put on the imported pre-2004 cetme. Nothing like hog hunting with a few dudes who unleash half a mag each at a couple pigs and then no one can hear for oh, 2 or 3 days. HE SAID YOU USED TO HAVE A MINI Y COMP |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:30:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:31:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I own a fair amount of old gun junk, but I’ve never owned a rifle with a fixed stock. Well, except for a ban-era Bushmaster with fixed M4 stock and mini-y comp. Gen x finery right there, dog. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:31:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:32:28 PM EDT
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Dam. I threw a genuine Colt A 2 stock and 2 N1 stock in the trash years ago. Oh well. Don’t miss them.
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:32:52 PM EDT
[#23]
Entry stock dissipator is sexy!
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:32:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The brake Armalite used on the old ban-era AR-10s was also an ear-destroyer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We should bring back mini y comps, especially the knock off one they put on the imported pre-2004 cetme. Nothing like hog hunting with a few dudes who unleash half a mag each at a couple pigs and then no one can hear for oh, 2 or 3 days. The brake Armalite used on the old ban-era AR-10s was also an ear-destroyer. Yeah dude, it was. Some of the Texas crew that has quit posting had those back in the day. It made me want to not let them back in the truck after a hog hunt. It wasn't even my truck. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:34:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryITT: We party like it's 1969.  
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:40:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryI put an A2 fh on my 11.5" xm177 type, just until I found a good grenade ring and proper moderator type. That was 6 years ago. I like the simple & handy aspect of it. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:49:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely concur. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A1 stock is best stock. Absolutely concur. Absoluting your absolutely. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:56:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an entry stock but can't find it. I have two sully stocks and some NIB colt a1 length newer style stocks I've had a Sully stock on my carbine for a long time now. Length is about perfect for all but gorillas. Can also beat a mfer with it, think it's urethane? |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:58:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:00:36 PM EDT
[#30]
I like the A1/A2 stock a lot too but the Magpul MOE rifle stock is great.
edit - I have it on my 18" gun: 
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:08:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That, cloning and nostalgia for old guys. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's the appeal here, is it just comfort? That, cloning and nostalgia for old guys. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:13:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryXM177E2, at the moment, is my favorite of all mine... its just so light and portable! |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:49:04 PM EDT
[#33]
Some old pics.
 
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:56:10 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the A1/A2 stock a lot too but the Magpul MOE rifle stock is great. edit - I have it on my 18" gun: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77166/IMG_2996-2753458.jpg The Magpul original CTR is in the top three for me. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:57:28 PM EDT
[#35]
That RRA is sized perfectly for you
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Posted: 9/26/2023 8:00:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Magpul original CTR is in the top three for me. I have that CTR fixed stock on a 22 build and it's good too! |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 8:10:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2023 8:18:20 PM EDT
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A2 stock is my favorite stock.
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Posted: 9/26/2023 8:21:02 PM EDT
[#39]
 I’m definitely a fan. I need to take pictures of my A4 still, but here are a couple of mine. I also built a 16” mid length with an A1 stock and ACOG as a DMR type rifle and it’s one of my favorites. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 8:24:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw an entry stock on a fatty handguard dissapator upper.. it looked friggin sick! Found the photo.. (from the interwebs) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21179/IMG_3136_jpeg-2967096.JPG I've got one of the entry stocks in a box somewhere. Was recently thinking about a dissapator build, but with the old triangular handguards. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 8:31:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That RRA is sized perfectly for you 
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Posted: 9/26/2023 8:37:02 PM EDT
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@Miami_JBT
Check Numrich. $35 or so. I have two A2 surplus stocks from them, awesome. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 9:08:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That RRA is sized perfectly for you   @vanilla_gorilla |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 9:09:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2023 9:14:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2023 9:19:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Retro on the civvie side of things is popular too. A number of commercial only items have gained popularity. Look at dissipators, never used by the military and only a few used by LE, much like the RRA entry stocks. But folks want 'em. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Retro is popular for nostalgic reasons, but it's also clone correct for military rifles from the 50s all the way through the 90s. Entry stocks were made because telescoping carbine stocks were illegal during the assault weapon ban, and for no other reason. The military never used them. I think some police departments might have, but Only because of idiotic gun control legislation. I'm sure there are some people who prefer the look of them, but to me that will always be an assault weapon ban compliant stock, just like a thumbhole stock. That being said, I've got a bunch of M-16A1 type E stocks that are apparently worth a lot of money. Maybe I should sell this old stuff off instead of letting a pile up in totes? |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 9:24:39 PM EDT
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I have a chopped cav15 . I get tired of the glock grip though. I may have to get the commie-child molester kp15 .
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Posted: 9/26/2023 9:39:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AR and MP5 fixed are the best stocks. This is correct. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 9:44:36 PM EDT
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I actually like fixed stocks. I also still like ace skeli stocks.
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Posted: 9/26/2023 10:09:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And tiny people. I tried an A1 length stock on my dissipator, couldn't even shoulder that thing. Way too short. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's the appeal here, is it just comfort? That, cloning and nostalgia for old guys. I'm just over 6'2" and for everything but matches in the prone I prefer the a1 over the a2. |
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