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Posted: 1/18/2014 10:48:02 AM EST
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That's true - the war was about States rights. Only, 90% of those States rights had pretty much everything to do with slavery. Slavery started that war - whether or not people fought for or against it is a different matter - slavery is what sparked it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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 Uh,more Americans died trying to defeat slavery States Rights than National Socialism...you know that,right?
Fixed that typo for you. That's true - the war was about States rights. Only, 90% of those States rights had pretty much everything to do with slavery. Slavery started that war - whether or not people fought for or against it is a different matter - slavery is what sparked it. The North had a growing urban population. That growth diminished the voting power of the rual South. Sound familiar? |
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Posted: 1/18/2014 10:53:51 AM EST
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The North had a growing urban population. That growth diminished the voting power of the rual South. Sound familiar? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uh,more Americans died trying to defeat slavery States Rights than National Socialism...you know that,right?
Fixed that typo for you. That's true - the war was about States rights. Only, 90% of those States rights had pretty much everything to do with slavery. Slavery started that war - whether or not people fought for or against it is a different matter - slavery is what sparked it. The North had a growing urban population. That growth diminished the voting power of the rual South. Sound familiar? Yeah. But how do we force the urban cities to become self supporting city-states like in ancient Greece? |
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Posted: 1/18/2014 10:57:09 AM EST
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The North had a growing urban population. That growth diminished the voting power of the rual South. Sound familiar? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uh,more Americans died trying to defeat slavery States Rights than National Socialism...you know that,right?
Fixed that typo for you. That's true - the war was about States rights. Only, 90% of those States rights had pretty much everything to do with slavery. Slavery started that war - whether or not people fought for or against it is a different matter - slavery is what sparked it. The North had a growing urban population. That growth diminished the voting power of the rual South. Sound familiar? The only thing that sounds familiar is this stupid argument over what the civil war was about that we have approximately 5 times a week in GD, in a thread about SEI's piss-poor nazi marketing. Only on arfcom. 
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Posted: 1/18/2014 12:26:24 PM EST
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The only thing that sounds familiar is this stupid argument over what the civil war was about that we have approximately 5 times a week in GD, in a thread about SEI's piss-poor nazi marketing. Only on arfcom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uh,more Americans died trying to defeat slavery States Rights than National Socialism...you know that,right?
Fixed that typo for you. That's true - the war was about States rights. Only, 90% of those States rights had pretty much everything to do with slavery. Slavery started that war - whether or not people fought for or against it is a different matter - slavery is what sparked it. The North had a growing urban population. That growth diminished the voting power of the rual South. Sound familiar? The only thing that sounds familiar is this stupid argument over what the civil war was about that we have approximately 5 times a week in GD, in a thread about SEI's piss-poor nazi marketing. Only on arfcom. Them's fightin' words, bluecoat! 
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Posted: 1/18/2014 1:35:16 PM EST
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To continue the ever changing topic of this thread...
We should have gone with the FAL over the M14. |
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Posted: 1/18/2014 1:40:23 PM EST
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To continue the ever changing topic of this thread... We should have gone with the FAL over the M14. Should that FAL have been in .45ACP or 9mm Para? |
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Posted: 1/18/2014 1:41:14 PM EST
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To continue the ever changing topic of this thread... We should have gone with the FAL over the M14. Yeah, but we should have issued personal miniguns to soldiers instead of M9 sidearms. At least we would have an amusing reason for the lack of ammo Who would need precision fire if every soldier was carrying a Hollywood style mini minigun 
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Posted: 1/18/2014 1:42:16 PM EST
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To continue the ever changing topic of this thread... We should have gone with the FAL G3 over the M14. fixed |
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Posted: 1/18/2014 1:42:17 PM EST
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To continue the ever changing topic of this thread... We should have gone with the FAL over the M14. But if we did go that route, would SEI still make ghey ass parts for it ? Hmmmmmmmmm ? |
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Posted: 1/18/2014 2:51:55 PM EST
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To continue the ever changing topic of this thread... We should have gone with the FAL over the M14. Blasphemy! FAL Huh! Springfield Armory M1A in .45ACP 
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Posted: 1/18/2014 8:06:30 PM EST
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Should that FAL have been in .45ACP or 9mm Para? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To continue the ever changing topic of this thread... We should have gone with the FAL over the M14. Should that FAL have been in .45ACP or 9mm Para? It should have been in .45, with a Glock 17 taped to the bottom of the front handguard. 
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Posted: 1/18/2014 8:24:05 PM EST
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It should have been in .45, with a Glock 17 .38 Super with a 1911 taped to the bottom of the front handguard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To continue the ever changing topic of this thread... We should have gone with the FAL over the M14. Should that FAL have been in .45ACP or 9mm Para? It should have been in .45, with a Glock 17 .38 Super with a 1911 taped to the bottom of the front handguard. |
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Posted: 1/18/2014 8:52:09 PM EST
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Blasphemy! FAL Huh! Springfield Armory M1A in .45ACP <a href="http://s1022.photobucket.com/user/cruciantime/media/saim1a_zps9f64e957.png.html" target="_blank">http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/cruciantime/saim1a_zps9f64e957.png</a> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To continue the ever changing topic of this thread... We should have gone with the FAL over the M14. Blasphemy! FAL Huh! Springfield Armory M1A in .45ACP <a href="http://s1022.photobucket.com/user/cruciantime/media/saim1a_zps9f64e957.png.html" target="_blank">http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/cruciantime/saim1a_zps9f64e957.png</a> 
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Posted: 1/18/2014 10:32:06 PM EST
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To continue the ever changing topic of this thread... We should have gone with the FAL over the M14. Agreed. In .280 British. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 1:54:00 PM EST
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As far as adopting the symbols of the conquered foe goes, VF-111 Sundowners was actually there doing the conquering. By the way, note the SunDOWNer, not rising. Theirs is a play on the Japanese Naval Ensign, and after shooting down a lot of Japanese planes.
Mr Smith was where during the European campaign? Was he even born? Smith Industries was founded when? 1973. They had no hand in the defeat, so they have no institutional right to adopt the symbol; so that just makes them simple jerks for doing so. Everyday garden variety jerks. That they fail to offend so many of you is commendable, since they're clearly attempting to be offensive to garner some shock publicity. This doesn't rise to the level of offense for me, but it's stupid and don't think I want to reward stupid with my dollars. It makes you wonder with the lawsuit and this if they wondered what it would take to cancel the goodwill they garnered with their steep discount for active duty troops ordering their flash-hiders. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 1:56:43 PM EST
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FSEI
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:05:14 PM EST
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Funny this gets bumped...I was looking through some old pamphlets and stuff and found a SEI sticker with this logo on it... It's not that new, because it's been at least 2 years since I ordered anything from them.
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:14:52 PM EST
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now in this thread, bad holocaust jokes true story, my highschooler had an english assignment this week, to write haikus about the holocaust my suggestions were not submitted
look an untermensch put him on a cattle car arbeit macht frei Imperial Japan approves  
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:18:16 PM EST
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Totenkopf pre-dates the Nazis, much like the Swastika. Don't let the ignorant conscript history. True. Many different versions of the totenkopf. But considering that was the specific version of the totenkopf used by the Nazis... |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:18:56 PM EST
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Serious question for the mod/site staff types: what would it take for a site sponsor to get kicked out? Is there any point at which you'd refuse to associate with them?
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:47:06 PM EST
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Passover sale?
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:59:13 PM EST
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Smith makes Excellent M14's and parts. i love thier stuff. they been in the M14
game longer the some of you been alive. some of you need to chill out man. i have a shirt with that logo, should i be kick off a gun forum for it ? |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 2:59:46 PM EST
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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:04:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThe logo on the right looks familiar |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:06:28 PM EST
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Smith makes Excellent M14's and parts. i love thier stuff. they been in the M14 game longer the some of you been alive. some of you need to chill out man. i have a shirt with that logo, should i be kick off a gun forum for it ? You actually wear it without compunction, and aren't personally an 88er? |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:09:32 PM EST
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The logo on the right looks familiar Clearly she's a Smith Enterprises fan. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:10:49 PM EST
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im just a shooter bro. no one cares, its just a Smith Ent shirt to most people. dont make it more
then it is..... if you dont like it, dont get one. i have alot of Smith Ent stuff, and will continue to get more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Smith makes Excellent M14's and parts. i love thier stuff. they been in the M14 game longer the some of you been alive. some of you need to chill out man. i have a shirt with that logo, should i be kick off a gun forum for it ? You actually wear it without compunction, and aren't personally an 88er? |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:11:30 PM EST
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me too, you ever shoot one of thier 14's ?
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The logo on the right looks familiar Clearly she's a Smith Enterprises fan. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:11:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clearly she's a Smith Enterprises fan. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The logo on the right looks familiar Clearly she's a Smith Enterprises fan. or maybe Hesse
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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:16:37 PM EST
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im just a shooter bro. no one cares, its just a Smith Ent shirt to most people. dont make it more then it is..... if you dont like it, dont get one. i have alot of Smith Ent stuff, and will continue to get more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
im just a shooter bro. no one cares, its just a Smith Ent shirt to most people. dont make it more then it is..... if you dont like it, dont get one. i have alot of Smith Ent stuff, and will continue to get more. Quoted:
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Smith makes Excellent M14's and parts. i love thier stuff. they been in the M14 game longer the some of you been alive. some of you need to chill out man. i have a shirt with that logo, should i be kick off a gun forum for it ? You actually wear it without compunction, and aren't personally an 88er? Most people have no clue who Smith Enterprises are brah. They do know who the SS were |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:19:06 PM EST
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ok ? what do ya want me to tell ya....
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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:22:19 PM EST
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"This is a Smith Enterprises Tibetan good luck symbol. It celebrates the 88th M 14 they made hence the numbers. Why would anyone be offended? Also Japamese"
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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:38:00 PM EST
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"This is a Smith Enterprises Tibetan good luck symbol. It celebrates the 88th M 14 they made hence the numbers. Why would anyone be offended? Also Japamese" Snort. |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 9:15:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: im just a shooter bro. no one cares, its just a Smith Ent shirt to most people. dont make it more then it is..... if you dont like it, dont get one. i have alot of Smith Ent stuff, and will continue to get more. Quote HistoryQuoted: im just a shooter bro. no one cares, its just a Smith Ent shirt to most people. dont make it more then it is..... if you dont like it, dont get one. i have alot of Smith Ent stuff, and will continue to get more. Quoted: Quoted: Smith makes Excellent M14's and parts. i love thier stuff. they been in the M14 game longer the some of you been alive. some of you need to chill out man. i have a shirt with that logo, should i be kick off a gun forum for it ? I'll bet you damn near anything more people know what a totenkopf is than know who SEI is. As a side note, how do you wave "hello" to people? |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 1:17:35 AM EST
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I'll bet you damn near anything more people know what a totenkopf is than know who SEI is. As a side note, how do you wave "hello" to people? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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im just a shooter bro. no one cares, its just a Smith Ent shirt to most people. dont make it more then it is..... if you dont like it, dont get one. i have alot of Smith Ent stuff, and will continue to get more. Quoted:
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Smith makes Excellent M14's and parts. i love thier stuff. they been in the M14 game longer the some of you been alive. some of you need to chill out man. i have a shirt with that logo, should i be kick off a gun forum for it ? I'll bet you damn near anything more people know what a totenkopf is than know who SEI is. As a side note, how do you wave "hello" to people? Heilo? |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 2:40:15 AM EST
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I'll bet you damn near anything more people know what a totenkopf is than know who SEI is. As a side note, how do you wave "hello" to people? With the Roman Salute?
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Posted: 1/30/2014 2:45:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryWould smash both. If I keep my eyes open really wide, they'll think I'm white. |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 10:27:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: or maybe Hesse Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The logo on the right looks familiar Clearly she's a Smith Enterprises fan. or maybe Hesse  |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 10:31:45 AM EST
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Posted: 1/30/2014 10:59:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The logo on the right looks familiar Clearly she's a Smith Enterprises fan. or maybe Hesse ding!
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Posted: 1/30/2014 11:00:30 AM EST
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Lots of people use Skulls in logos and such, even the CIA but jeez, did you have to use that skull.....what a numbskull choice.
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Posted: 1/30/2014 11:05:06 AM EST
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Posted: 1/30/2014 1:07:23 PM EST
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last time i checked, guns and shooting is a Mans game sorta speak, maybe some of you should take up
more wimpy hobbies if a skull logo offends you.  i dont have an issue with it.
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Posted: 1/30/2014 1:20:13 PM EST
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last time i checked, guns and shooting is a Mans game sorta speak, maybe some of you should take up more wimpy hobbies if a skull logo offends you. i dont have an issue with it.Shooting women and children, poorly so they suffered horrible deaths I might add, is what that logo means to most people. Hell before there were some old folks who would break a persons teeth with an ash tray over wearing that. happy to post photographic evidence of a grown man executing a child if needed.. its poor form to use, worse not to change it once they were notified. |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 1:25:30 PM EST
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"Moral courage is the most valuable and usually the most absent characteristic in men."
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Posted: 1/30/2014 1:26:28 PM EST
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call them and complain then.....
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Posted: 1/30/2014 1:27:28 PM EST
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last time i checked, guns and shooting is a Mans game sorta speak, maybe some of you should take up more wimpy hobbies if a skull logo offends you. i dont have an issue with it.Hey, welcome to 10 pages ago and all the other people that apparently can't tell the difference between a bunch of generic skull & bones images that have a very broad association with all kinds of things, and a very specific version that has an association exclusively with the SS. Nobody is saying that "a skull logo" is problematic. People are saying that using the specific skull logo that was used by SS units, and the extremely negative connotation that is associated with that, is problematic. |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 1:32:51 PM EST
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The only thing that sounds familiar is this stupid argument over what the civil war was about that we have approximately 5 times a week in GD, in a thread about SEI's piss-poor nazi marketing. Only on arfcom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uh,more Americans died trying to defeat slavery States Rights than National Socialism...you know that,right?
Fixed that typo for you. That's true - the war was about States rights. Only, 90% of those States rights had pretty much everything to do with slavery. Slavery started that war - whether or not people fought for or against it is a different matter - slavery is what sparked it. The North had a growing urban population. That growth diminished the voting power of the rual South. Sound familiar? The only thing that sounds familiar is this stupid argument over what the civil war was about that we have approximately 5 times a week in GD, in a thread about SEI's piss-poor nazi marketing. Only on arfcom. I agree, sadly though.... some ignorant folk still think it was all about slavery... What I did there, you see it? |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 2:03:56 PM EST
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Hey, welcome to 10 pages ago and all the other people that apparently can't tell the difference between a bunch of generic skull & bones images that have a very broad association with all kinds of things, and a very specific version that has an association exclusively with the SS. Nobody is saying that "a skull logo" is problematic. People are saying that using the specific skull logo that was used by SS units, and the extremely negative connotation that is associated with that, is problematic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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last time i checked, guns and shooting is a Mans game sorta speak, maybe some of you should take up more wimpy hobbies if a skull logo offends you. i dont have an issue with it.Hey, welcome to 10 pages ago and all the other people that apparently can't tell the difference between a bunch of generic skull & bones images that have a very broad association with all kinds of things, and a very specific version that has an association exclusively with the SS. Nobody is saying that "a skull logo" is problematic. People are saying that using the specific skull logo that was used by SS units, and the extremely negative connotation that is associated with that, is problematic. Kinda like "hope and change" and the logo, people could use them for something else later but their original intent is pretty much burned in now. |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 2:15:42 PM EST
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So will SEI offer services to help people find Kyle?
He's about this tall: 
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