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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:36:27 PM EST
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I heard, from a reputable inside source, the stickers are printed on some of the paper Hitler didn't get around to using and that they lack the structural integrity of other competitors stickers.
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:37:00 PM EST
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I will grant it's a poor marketing move, simply because it's a shitty design. On the use of the Death's Head, let people who want to be ruled by knee jerk emotion get rule by knee jerk emotions. This is no different then people who get upset at the sight of a Confederate flag or Redskin on the side of a football helmet. Yes it's similar to the SS Totenkopt, hell it may be from the Nazi flash art section at the local tattoo parlor. However the Death's Head has an original meaning of outlaws, pirates, death, and danger. Damn, I hate wearing a flame suit all the time..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Totenkopf pre-dates the Nazis, much like the Swastika. Don't let the ignorant conscript history. Totenkopf, yes. The SS-Totenkopf? Well, no, that didn't pre-date the Nazis. Doesn't matter if it predates or not. It is in bad taste and will attract an unfortunate crowd. Marketing is the art of making ones products or services desirable. This will alienate a lot of people. I will grant it's a poor marketing move, simply because it's a shitty design. On the use of the Death's Head, let people who want to be ruled by knee jerk emotion get rule by knee jerk emotions. This is no different then people who get upset at the sight of a Confederate flag or Redskin on the side of a football helmet. Yes it's similar to the SS Totenkopt, hell it may be from the Nazi flash art section at the local tattoo parlor. However the Death's Head has an original meaning of outlaws, pirates, death, and danger. Damn, I hate wearing a flame suit all the time..... 
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:37:17 PM EST
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I heard, from a reputable inside source, the stickers are printed on some of the paper Hitler didn't get around to using and that they lack the structural integrity of other competitors stickers. Come at me, bro. Maybe they are trying to market to a new crowd. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:38:18 PM EST
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I find all the feigned offense and worry that others might possibly be offended disgusting. I guess I've just had my fill of it.
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:38:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOkay. That's funny. 
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:43:12 PM EST
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I will grant it's a poor marketing move, simply because it's a shitty design. On the use of the Death's Head, let people who want to be ruled by knee jerk emotion get rule by knee jerk emotions. This is no different then people who get upset at the sight of a Confederate flag or Redskin on the side of a football helmet. Yes it's similar to the SS Totenkopt, hell it may be from the Nazi flash art section at the local tattoo parlor. However the Death's Head has an original meaning of outlaws, pirates, death, and danger. Damn, I hate wearing a flame suit all the time..... It is the particular picture they chose. Look at the ITS tactical logo or anyone of the Pirate Jacks from the USN in the last 10 years. They are vastly different than the pictured logo. But they are still cool skull logos. This might cost them other sales and .gov contracts but if they think the can make up for it with the rebel flag crowd so be it. This company just has a history of publicly stepping on their dick. I mostly consider people in marketing as low level mouth breathers that restate the obvious. But by god, SEI could use some. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:43:14 PM EST
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I find all the feigned offense and worry that others might possibly be offended disgusting. I guess I've just had my fill of it. You're right. The logo of the holocaust genocidal camp guards is totes kewl. Himmler was just misunderstood. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:45:13 PM EST
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:45:38 PM EST
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The Head Detective
"Homey don't play that!" |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:45:56 PM EST
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Jerkoff.
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:46:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're right. The logo of the holocaust genocidal camp guards is totes kewl. Himmler was just misunderstood. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I find all the feigned offense and worry that others might possibly be offended disgusting. I guess I've just had my fill of it. You're right. The logo of the holocaust genocidal camp guards is totes kewl. Himmler was just misunderstood. Maybe if you keep pretending you're offended hard enough some hippy chick might come along and fuck you! It's worth a shot! |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:47:09 PM EST
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Maybe if you keep pretending you're offended hard enough some hippy chick might come along and fuck you! It's worth a shot! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I find all the feigned offense and worry that others might possibly be offended disgusting. I guess I've just had my fill of it. You're right. The logo of the holocaust genocidal camp guards is totes kewl. Himmler was just misunderstood. Maybe if you keep pretending you're offended hard enough some hippy chick might come along and fuck you! It's worth a shot! And an 88er falls from the tree. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:48:06 PM EST
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Maybe if you keep pretending you're offended hard enough some hippy chick might come along and fuck you! It's worth a shot! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I find all the feigned offense and worry that others might possibly be offended disgusting. I guess I've just had my fill of it. You're right. The logo of the holocaust genocidal camp guards is totes kewl. Himmler was just misunderstood. Maybe if you keep pretending you're offended hard enough some hippy chick might come along and fuck you! It's worth a shot! I'll be the first to call out the now de rigueur offended/persecuted shtick, but using Nazi iconography/symbolism for your business is comically retarded. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:48:35 PM EST
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I find all the feigned offense and worry that others might possibly be offended disgusting. I guess I've just had my fill of it. I don't know about feigned offense...let me ask my grandfather if he is cool with it after the Nazi's blew his ship to the bottom of the North Sea. Stupid and disrespectful move. I realize there is a whole generation now who don't have any relatives that fought the Nazi's and so we forget. But though my grandfather is 94 I still will honor his and my great uncles sacrifices for my country. You can just ignore that generation of hero's since you have had your fill. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:48:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And an 88er falls from the tree. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I find all the feigned offense and worry that others might possibly be offended disgusting. I guess I've just had my fill of it. You're right. The logo of the holocaust genocidal camp guards is totes kewl. Himmler was just misunderstood. Maybe if you keep pretending you're offended hard enough some hippy chick might come along and fuck you! It's worth a shot! And an 88er falls from the tree. Yep. You caught me. I'm tired of political correctness and feigned offense so I must be "an 88er". After you finally get laid, maybe you and that hippy chick can go down to the station and apply to be detectives! You can put this on your resume. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:50:00 PM EST
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One comment, one lawsuit.
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:52:20 PM EST
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How about a little Zyklon B pepper spray! |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:52:23 PM EST
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Yep. You caught me. I'm tired of political correctness and feigned offense so I must be "an 88er". After you finally get laid, maybe you and that hippy chick can go down to the station and apply to be detectives! You can put this on your resume. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I find all the feigned offense and worry that others might possibly be offended disgusting. I guess I've just had my fill of it. You're right. The logo of the holocaust genocidal camp guards is totes kewl. Himmler was just misunderstood. Maybe if you keep pretending you're offended hard enough some hippy chick might come along and fuck you! It's worth a shot! And an 88er falls from the tree. Yep. You caught me. I'm tired of political correctness and feigned offense so I must be "an 88er". After you finally get laid, maybe you and that hippy chick can go down to the station and apply to be detectives! You can put this on your resume. You know, there's political correctness, and there's just plain right and wrong. You're on the wrong side. But you go on thinking you're a rebel. *click* |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:54:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know, there's political correctness, and there's just plain right and wrong. You're on the wrong side. But you go on thinking you're a rebel. *click* I'm sorry guys. I've gotta go cry and rethink my life.  I've also gotta write out a reference for Detectives Rugerlvr and Hippy Chick. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:54:44 PM EST
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I noticed this too while looking at the SHOT show pictures thread.
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:54:48 PM EST
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Needs a catchphrase like "Smith Enterprises - The Final Solution."
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:54:50 PM EST
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Can the current batch of nazis sue SEI?
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Posted: 1/15/2014 6:57:55 PM EST
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Are Smith Enterprises "the baddies"?
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:00:39 PM EST
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<a href="http://s377.photobucket.com/user/gonzo1xp/media/ZYKLONB.gif.html" target="_blank">http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo211/gonzo1xp/ZYKLONB.gif</a> How about a little Zyklon B pepper spray! Fuck is that for real? |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:01:36 PM EST
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I heard, from a reputable inside source, the stickers are printed on some of the paper Hitler didn't get around to using and that they lack the structural integrity of other competitors stickers. Come at me, bro. oh boy
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:05:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Appears to be just a sticker. At least I hope. They'd be foolish to switch from the one they have now to this. As pedestrian as the current one is, this is light years more terrible. Good corporate branding should not look like 9th grader slapped some random typeface on top of a piece of clip art, sorry to say. Development of a logo, particularly one that a brand identifies itself with, should be rigorous process, usually highly expensive, and should be integrated into the company's aesthetic identity as a whole in all media fronts. This looks like it was made by an intern who can open MS Paint. check out the laser engraving on the brakes  |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:06:51 PM EST
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"Ein volk, ein reich, ein Smith!"
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:09:45 PM EST
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Inb4 ElectricSheep556 gets invited to the pit.
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:10:42 PM EST
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Totenkopf pre-dates the Nazis, much like the Swastika. Don't let the ignorant conscript history. lol http://fangamers.net/imagehosting/17352d7559ab0e64.jpg I was reading about the Etruscans (Pre Roman Empire society) and they had a surviving example of one of their gold coins with four swastikas on it... |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:11:18 PM EST
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I was reading about the Etruscans (Pre Roman Empire society) and they had a surviving example of one of their gold coins with four swastikas on it... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Totenkopf pre-dates the Nazis, much like the Swastika. Don't let the ignorant conscript history. lol http://fangamers.net/imagehosting/17352d7559ab0e64.jpg I was reading about the Etruscans (Pre Roman Empire society) and they had a surviving example of one of their gold coins with four swastikas on it... The Hopi have used it as well for centuries. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:14:39 PM EST
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The Hopi have used it as well for centuries. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Totenkopf pre-dates the Nazis, much like the Swastika. Don't let the ignorant conscript history. lol http://fangamers.net/imagehosting/17352d7559ab0e64.jpg I was reading about the Etruscans (Pre Roman Empire society) and they had a surviving example of one of their gold coins with four swastikas on it... The Hopi have used it as well for centuries. I wonder if we could convince Spike's to do a custom run of swastika lowers. (We'll make sure to let them know it's a symbol of peace) |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:14:54 PM EST
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The Hopi have used it as well for centuries. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Totenkopf pre-dates the Nazis, much like the Swastika. Don't let the ignorant conscript history. lol http://fangamers.net/imagehosting/17352d7559ab0e64.jpg I was reading about the Etruscans (Pre Roman Empire society) and they had a surviving example of one of their gold coins with four swastikas on it... The Hopi have used it as well for centuries. And look where that got them.
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:16:07 PM EST
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Inb4 ElectricSheep556 gets invited to the pit. Won't be by me. He may think it's some great insult to imply I'm a virgin in his mom's basement... I've got too much trouble with my kids to worry about keyboard commando insults. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:16:25 PM EST
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:16:44 PM EST
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Totenkopf pre-dates the Nazis, much like the Swastika. Don't let the ignorant conscript history. lol http://fangamers.net/imagehosting/17352d7559ab0e64.jpg I was reading about the Etruscans (Pre Roman Empire society) and they had a surviving example of one of their gold coins with four swastikas on it... The Hopi have used it as well for centuries. And look where that got them. The Hopi are nice people. It's not like they're those pussy Lakota. 
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:16:45 PM EST
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Yep. You caught me. I'm tired of political correctness and feigned offense so I must be "an 88er". After you finally get laid, maybe you and that hippy chick can go down to the station and apply to be detectives! You can put this on your resume. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I find all the feigned offense and worry that others might possibly be offended disgusting. I guess I've just had my fill of it. You're right. The logo of the holocaust genocidal camp guards is totes kewl. Himmler was just misunderstood. Maybe if you keep pretending you're offended hard enough some hippy chick might come along and fuck you! It's worth a shot! And an 88er falls from the tree. Yep. You caught me. I'm tired of political correctness and feigned offense so I must be "an 88er". After you finally get laid, maybe you and that hippy chick can go down to the station and apply to be detectives! You can put this on your resume. 
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:17:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOkay. Unapologetic. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:18:14 PM EST
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Quote History"The SS used lots of skulls. They can't trademark them all!"
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:19:20 PM EST
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Totenkopf pre-dates the Nazis, much like the Swastika. Don't let the ignorant conscript history. Google image search SS totenkopf. They are exactly the same. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:20:38 PM EST
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The Hopi are nice people. It's not like they're those pussy Lakota. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was reading about the Etruscans (Pre Roman Empire society) and they had a surviving example of one of their gold coins with four swastikas on it... The Hopi have used it as well for centuries. And look where that got them. The Hopi are nice people. It's not like they're those pussy Lakota. And they're actually, you know, Indians. Unlike the Lumbee... |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:20:48 PM EST
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Quote History They can't trademark the totenkopf. So is SEI going to file a trademark lawsuit against the SS?
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:22:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Google image search SS totenkopf. They are exactly the same. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Totenkopf pre-dates the Nazis, much like the Swastika. Don't let the ignorant conscript history. Google image search SS totenkopf. They are exactly the same. literally identical... cut copy and paste all the way
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:23:04 PM EST
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And they're actually, you know, Indians. Unlike the Lumbee... Most of the Salish are all Mexicans, anymore. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:24:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI am at a loss for words. 
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:24:13 PM EST
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Totenkopf pre-dates the Nazis, much like the Swastika. Don't let the ignorant conscript history. Google image search SS totenkopf. They are exactly the same. literally identical... cut copy and paste all the way Yup, they could have gone with any number of skull and bones designs and it wouldn't have been an issue. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:24:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI can't wait for lawsuits to start flying 
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:25:41 PM EST
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ETA: We claim it!
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:26:24 PM EST
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Yup, they could have gone with any number of skull and bones designs and it wouldn't have been an issue, they knew what they were doing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Totenkopf pre-dates the Nazis, much like the Swastika. Don't let the ignorant conscript history. Google image search SS totenkopf. They are exactly the same. literally identical... cut copy and paste all the way Yup, they could have gone with any number of skull and bones designs and it wouldn't have been an issue, they knew what they were doing. That is a statement of fact, what is the source to your claim that they did it on purpose? Textbook slander case, prepare to be sued. |
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:27:17 PM EST
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That is a statement of fact, what is the source to your claim that they did it on purpose? Textbook slander case, prepare to be sued. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Totenkopf pre-dates the Nazis, much like the Swastika. Don't let the ignorant conscript history. Google image search SS totenkopf. They are exactly the same. literally identical... cut copy and paste all the way Yup, they could have gone with any number of skull and bones designs and it wouldn't have been an issue, they knew what they were doing. That is a statement of fact, what is the source to your claim that they did it on purpose? Textbook slander case, prepare to be sued. Well he didn't say he got it from a reliable source so I think it's just conjecture. 
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Posted: 1/15/2014 7:28:10 PM EST
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Uhm... That's an SS skull.
- no it's not, that's the smith enterprises skull. Can't Stop Laughing
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