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Posted: 2/25/2024 7:53:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sixteen million dollar house not ten feet away from another house. People have strange priorities. No kidding, sixteen million and you can hear your neighbor fart. Or scream as they fall off into the ocean. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 7:54:16 PM EDT
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He should put up some money against the day when that big mess hits the beach.
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Posted: 2/25/2024 7:56:22 PM EDT
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Just from the pictures, it looks like whatever material is now exposed will further erode. It isn't like it exposed a giant rock shelf; that looks like compacted, exposed dirt.
At some point that will be a straight drop for 100+ feet. I'm guessing the engineers calculated that the far foundation edge was far back enough to where it wouldn't just fall off into the void, but still, it's not like this is going to repair itself. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:03:02 PM EDT
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Bosch's house looking down on LA gives me the willies. No way I'd live in that, I'd never sleep.
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:05:19 PM EDT
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it's not even rock, it just looks like dirt... why would you build like that?
 is this a case where a guy jumps up and down on the ground and calls "good"? 
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:05:51 PM EDT
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Big french drain line dangling down the cliff face right where it parted is interesting.
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:06:41 PM EDT
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Good grief that’s fucking stupid
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:06:51 PM EDT
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All the rock and soil debris at the bottom is how old? When did it fall?
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:13:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:15:29 PM EDT
[#10]
I am not a marine biologist but could that even be stabilized? What about enough that he could have another 10 yards of so of backyard?
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:18:05 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not a marine biologist but could that even be stabilized? What about enough that he could have another 10 yards of so of backyard? I’m not sure of what use a marine biologist might be in this situation… |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:24:52 PM EDT
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If were him I’d be dropping some coin to have that whole cliff side sprayed with gunite
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:26:12 PM EDT
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Kind of his choice - he would rather die than loose that house while he is living, so be it. The only real question is the risk it poses to the people below...
It was one landslide away before this, this landslide was just not quite large enough to take it out (abet it would have taken a significant landslide to take it out then. Next landslide is almost a guarantee - both to happen and to take it out. Only real question is timing. He is 82 - timing means a lot. --- My family has a beach house in Texas - we knew before we purchased it that all it takes is one storm. Other's will mention global warming will destroy it - but one storm will almost certainly do it first. But that storm might be this year, or 100 years from now. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:32:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Eh. Dump a couple wheelbarrows of gravel down that slope and he'll be fine. NO. HE NEEDS TO USE NUT COAL! |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:34:58 PM EDT
[#15]
foundation piers into rock maybe?
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:44:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If were him I’d be dropping some coin to have that whole cliff side sprayed with gunite With it exposed like that it's only a matter of time before that new part starts to erode. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:48:13 PM EDT
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were is the rock? Can the piers hold up to the lateral load of all the silt stone flowing out to sea? Honestly, I would hope the house is already piers - but at this point I don't know what difference it would make. If I had 20m laying around, I guess you could build up terraces of retaining walls - but a river of mud has a lot of power. The house is built on a glacier of siltstone - it will flow to the sea eventually.
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:55:43 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But would he get knocked out if he did choose to? I see what you did there. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:00:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: foundation piers into rock maybe? Have seen it required for a major remodel on the cliffs. 28 - 20” x 90’ holes drilled files with rebar and concrete. For a 1/2 acre lot. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It ain't worth $16m anymore If he went for a re-fi on it and the bank appraisal came in at $16 million, would he get prosecuted for "fraud"? |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:06:07 PM EDT
[#21]
What insurance company would touch that?
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:06:31 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No kidding, sixteen million and you can hear your neighbor fart. Or scream as they fall off into the ocean. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sixteen million dollar house not ten feet away from another house. People have strange priorities. No kidding, sixteen million and you can hear your neighbor fart. Or scream as they fall off into the ocean. I chuckled. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:07:40 PM EDT
[#23]
I would how that thing would fall off the side when I was on vacation, with all my guns, so I could collect the insurance money and be done with the place.
Only an idiot would buy it now. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:08:49 PM EDT
[#24]
China could rebuild it. They can make islands in the sea (which also disappear).
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:11:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Id love a resident geologists take on the composition of that cliff face. looks somewhat sedimentary with the horizontal striations. and looking at the recent scree pile nothing looks solid enough for me to sleep there. It’s a coastal scarp, anything short of a solid rock face is just a short matter of time to erode. And even then, it’s just a longer period of time before the solid rock erodes. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:13:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I should have been a radiologist. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:15:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:26:27 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is America. Flag off the beach below.. if the man wants to ride his house into the sea, so be it. Would such a the flag off restrict access to a public beach area. If so, I could not get on board without a massive daily fee. Now if he wants to stay and ride it into the sea he should have to post some type of bond so if it collapses into the sea he has to pay to clean it up. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:28:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not a marine biologist but could that even be stabilized? What about enough that he could have another 10 yards of so of backyard? ShotCrete. Lots and lots of ShotCrete. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:29:54 PM EDT
[#30]
Those houses never should have been built there, but I don't think it's as bad as it looks, yet.
Agree if it was me I'd be pumping concrete for a week straight. I wonder what 10,000 yards of redi-mix costs in CA? Sure it's less than that house. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:36:44 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bosch's house looking down on LA gives me the willies. No way I'd live in that, I'd never sleep.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:46:03 PM EDT
[#32]
"The house is fine."
Meanwhile his entire backyard irrigation system is drooping down the cliffside. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 10:13:20 PM EDT
[#33]
Assholes like him and Julie Packard along with the Monterey bay aquarium are what shut down some of the best fishing locations because the shitbags didn’t want to see fishing boats off their front porch.
Fuck that guy and others like him. Hope his house fails for all the ling cod we couldn’t fish for because of “don’t obstruct my view of the ocean”. Fuck you asshole. May your house crumble. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 10:19:07 PM EDT
[#34]
There’s nothing but hope holding that cliff up.
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Posted: 2/25/2024 10:39:19 PM EDT
[#35]
That place must have a killer view...
or, it will shortly. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 7:18:30 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is America. Flag off the beach below.. if the man wants to ride his house into the sea, so be it. This post made me think of the movie: "Don't make Waves" with Tony Curtis. He had a house slide down a cliff during a rainstorm. 
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Posted: 2/26/2024 7:32:49 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what I want to know, HTF does a radiologist afford a 15 million dollar home????? Maybe he studies Paul Pelosi's "genius" stock trades? Anyway, I guess he might as well enjoy it over the next what, 2 to 5 years? |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 7:38:54 AM EDT
[#38]
Municipality is so afraid of losing the tax revenue they won't condem it
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Posted: 2/26/2024 7:41:14 AM EDT
[#39]
He's old, doesn't have a lot of time left. Let him stay in it. Worst that can happen is he checks out a couple years early.
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Posted: 2/26/2024 8:04:17 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If he went for a re-fi on it and the bank appraisal came in at $16 million, would he get prosecuted for "fraud"? Note if he votes and donates to (D)s. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 8:43:02 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bosch's house looking down on LA gives me the willies. No way I'd live in that, I'd never sleep. id live there in a skinny minute - dat view is boss |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 9:01:14 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, he's 82 so he only has so long to go anyway. Better way to go than self-immolation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is America. Flag off the beach below.. if the man wants to ride his house into the sea, so be it. Yep, he's 82 so he only has so long to go anyway. Better way to go than self-immolation. Harry Truman of Mt St Helens fame was 83 when the eruption killed him at his Spirit Lake lodge he refused to leave. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 9:02:22 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what I want to know, HTF does a radiologist afford a 15 million dollar home????? Radiologists and cardiologists are the highest-earning physicians, |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 9:04:06 AM EDT
[#44]
I wonder what it would take to uparmor that slope. Bureaucratically, permitting, financially.
I have seen slide mitigation work on similar coastal slopes here in WA to protect structures above and below the slide danger. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 9:06:17 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted: I say good luck..  https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/02/25/13/81694427-13123579-image-a-21_1708867439177.jpg Lewis Bruggeman (pictured), owner of the priciest home in the complex, a $15.9 million, four-bedroom behemoth, said: 'The house is fine, it's not threatened and it will not be red-tagged' https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/02/25/13/81694347-13123579-Multimillion_dollar_homes_teetering_on_the_edge_of_cliffside_in_-a-2_1708867675575.jpg Multimillion-dollar homes teetering on the edge of cliffside in Southern California have been deemed safe to live in, despite a landslide knocking out mud and debris along the structure. Historic storms that inundated the Golden State earlier this month caused a landslide that put three mansions in Dana Point at risk of falling into the Pacific Ocean. A huge portion of cliff fell at the foot of the priciest home in the complex, a $15.9 million, four-bedroom behemoth registered to a local radiologist, 82-year-old Lewis Bruggeman, records show. 'The house is fine, it's not threatened and it will not be red-tagged,' Bruggeman told KCAL. 'The city agrees that there's no major structural issue with the house.' Dana Point City Manager Mike Killebrew said, 'Currently the city has confirmed that there is no imminent threat to that home.'  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw62rKUXiEwhttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/02/25/13/81694339-13123579-Historic_storms_that_inundated_the_Golden_State_earlier_this_mon-a-1_1708867675571.jpg 'The city's geotechnical engineer and a building sector went out to the site to assess the situation, as well as talk with the homeowner who owns the residence and slope where the failure occurred.' California has been experiencing one of its wettest Februarys on record as flood, mudslides and storm warnings battered the state. While officials said the Dana Point cliffside properties are safe to live in, some experts feel lots of work will need to be done to keep them safe from future storms. 'That's going to need major, major work to stabilize that property,' Kyle Tourjé, executive vice president of Alpha Structural, a Los Angeles engineering firm, told The Washington Post. 'We’re seeing more damage, and I think we will continue to see more significant damage. Between back-to-back years of heavy saturation, these houses, these properties … they just can’t take this kind of beating.' Bruggeman's residence is part of a trio of homes on the cliff in the affluent region. All three remain in their precarious place next to the Ocean Institute - another popular tourist attraction. The missing cliff's face slipped next to a $12.8 million residence, one owned by 66-year-old contracting mogul Guy Yocom, that is set on a slightly lower perch and luckily stayed in place. A third home, valued at $13million and belonging to local producer Marketta Karsikko-Gassel, 80, looked to be in better sorts, though at just a few feet away - and a few hundred feet above the sea - is still on unstable ground. The Dana Point collapse is merely the latest in a series of incidents that have besieged SoCal in recent weeks. More 
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Posted: 2/26/2024 9:07:11 AM EDT
[#46]
I would also feel far more uncomfortable being in either of the houses to the right when looking at them from the water. Being on those outcroppings looks even more tenuous.
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Posted: 2/26/2024 9:20:19 AM EDT
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Everyone therefore who hears these words of mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man, who built his house on a rock. The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it didn't fall, for it was founded on the rock. Everyone who hears these words of mine, and doesn't do them will be like a foolish man, who built his house on the sand. The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it fell—and great was its fall.
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Posted: 2/26/2024 9:24:16 AM EDT
[#48]
Hydro seed ASAP.
Other than a railing, he’s GTG for his lifetime. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 9:53:56 AM EDT
[#49]
If he could re-designate his house as an offshore wind generator then the government will come in and prop it up for him.
Seriously, someone keep a GoPro filming the back of this house at all times. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 10:09:26 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's possibly probably sort of mostly ok, for now, anyway. I don't think I share your confidence. |
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