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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:12:36 PM EDT
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With NAFTA and all the mfg money moving in to Mexico, how the hell can they not clean that place up even a little bit? I mean Canada outside of energy doesn't have any major national exports or crazy sources, but they seem to get along just fine as a civilized nation? The five biggest cartels in Mexico make more money than the five largest "big pharma" companies in the world. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:17:25 PM EDT
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My dentist has a beachfront lease in Baja California (Americans cannot own land in Mexico) and he tells me it's perfectly safe there. He takes his family there all summer long. Sure hope I don't have to get a new dentist. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:20:09 PM EDT
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Drugs bring in more money. It's that simple. The five biggest cartels in Mexico make more money than the five largest "big pharma" companies in the world.  Ahhhh, if I don't laugh I'll cry....
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:20:17 PM EDT
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The culture sucks ass. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:21:08 PM EDT
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Went there about 13 years ago for a day while visiting my dad in McAllen. What a shit hole. It rained for about 5min and it flooded the streets, kids where riding ppl across the streets on the back of lage tricycles for like a dollar or something. Had to watch for the police because they would arrest Americans for no reason thinking you would bribe them.Place has no hope.
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:24:01 PM EDT
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I worked on a few jobs with my company in the McAllen area between 2006 and 2009.
Towards the end of my working down there the violence picked up substantially. I wouldn't go to Reynosa today. I did like the McAllen area though. You can't beat the Mexican food there. It's just on a different level than most areas in the country. There's money there as well, but I'm betting most of it's from the import/export business. I saw a girl get picked up by her Dad at school in his Ferrari 360 one day. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:29:13 PM EDT
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It's all heading north.  |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:29:19 PM EDT
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Drugs bring in more money. It's that simple. The five biggest cartels in Mexico make more money than the five largest "big pharma" companies in the world. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With NAFTA and all the mfg money moving in to Mexico, how the hell can they not clean that place up even a little bit? I mean Canada outside of energy doesn't have any major national exports or crazy sources, but they seem to get along just fine as a civilized nation? The five biggest cartels in Mexico make more money than the five largest "big pharma" companies in the world. Pablo Escabar reportedly earned $420 Million a WEEK 
"Pablo was earning so much that each year we would write off 10% of the money because the rats would eat it in storage or it would be damaged by water or lost," Escobar wrote. That would be about $2.1 billion, given how much money he was reportedly making. According to Roberto Escobar, the cartel spent an estimated $2,500 a month on rubber bands needed to hold stacks of bills together. http://www.businessinsider.com/pablo-escobar-and-rubber-bands-2015-9 |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:33:49 PM EDT
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Americans should be very, very worried about the violence in Mexico spilling over into the US. The small town police departments in border towns would have no chance against some of those cartels. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:37:09 PM EDT
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I spent most of the summer 2001 doing a job in Reynosa, staying in McAllen every night, back to VA on the weekends. At least once a week, the factory manager where I was installing equipment would take me to a local roadhouse for an authentic Mexican lunch. Fantastic! That's when I discovered how we (the US) had been shafted re: regular Coke.
Super friendly, super nice people... It's such a shame that this is happening to them. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:42:00 PM EDT
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Guess you've never travelled to Europe. Or Canada. Or Japan. Or New Zealand.. or Aussiland...WTF mate......  .
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99% of Americans have no clue how spectacularly unique and wonderful our free-market, rule of law, society of Individuals really is. Mexico etc. are not unique or weird. The USA is unique!!!! Mexico, like most of the world, is the standard existence of humanity, in all it's filthy cruelty. .
USA isn't unique. Third world violence isn't the standard, except in Africa and parts of the Middle East. The west is absolutely unique. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:52:57 PM EDT
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You speak of the Anglosphere. All that have kept the lessons and values of the west have prospered. When those values are slowly abandoned... The west is absolutely unique. Anyone saying otherwise hasn't a clue of what our founding documents left us the ability to be. It was apathetic, selfish and myopic people who fucked it up. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:54:12 PM EDT
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I currently live in McAllen. Yeah, it sucks. Thankfully the violence mostly stays in Mexico. A lot of money here as well as poverty. Most of the money is legitimate but people here always question where a persons money comes from. Weird culture here.
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Posted: 5/10/2017 8:02:33 PM EDT
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I dont even know the fallout if a border checkpoint were to get hit by a carbomb. Which of course means that it'll never happen. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 8:02:36 PM EDT
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"You should move to a small town, somewhere the rule of law still exists. You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is a land of wolves now." A few things go sideways and we shall see who the real wolves are.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 8:06:09 PM EDT
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At least the mexicans dont seem to be as gung ho suicidal as the arabs when it comes to this shit. No VBIED's and crap like that. I dont even know the fallout if a border checkpoint were to get hit by a carbomb. The problem in Mexico is that the average citizen is unwilling to take on the smallest risk to step in and do something/say something. There are a few crusading lawyers and reporters who are the exception (just like there are areas here where no one will say a word or lift a finger). And this existed BEFORE the cartels and their 80s cocaine money locked the place down. Lots of co-workers in Mexico. One guy gave me this rural analogy. In the USA, most people have 1000 goats, and the poor have 100 goats. In mexico, few people have 1000 goats, but those that do, don't want the poor to have 100 goats, they'd kill 10 of their own goats to be able to take a few goats from their poor neighbors. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 8:08:15 PM EDT
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Not just that, but with the kind of money and intimidation the cartels have, corruption has found its way to this side of the border as well within those small departments, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Americans should be very, very worried about the violence in Mexico spilling over into the US. The small town police departments in border towns would have no chance against some of those cartels. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 8:16:25 PM EDT
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Except fuck tons of Chinese Fentanyl and Carfentanyl. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 8:18:06 PM EDT
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I did like the McAllen area though. You can't beat the Mexican food there. It's just on a different level than most areas in the country. There's money there as well, but I'm betting most of it's from the import/export business. I saw a girl get picked up by her Dad at school in his Ferrari 360 one day. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 8:24:47 PM EDT
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Fuck Mexico. 3rd world shithole that needs to be carpet bombed. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 8:26:04 PM EDT
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What's going to happen when they bring their turf wars into Texas?
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Posted: 5/10/2017 8:28:26 PM EDT
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What's going to happen when they bring their turf wars into Texas? |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 8:34:11 PM EDT
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With NAFTA and all the mfg money moving in to Mexico, how the hell can they not clean that place up even a little bit? I mean Canada outside of energy doesn't have any major national exports or crazy sources, but they seem to get along just fine as a civilized nation? |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 9:04:29 PM EDT
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As a Catholic, I hate to say this, but Catholicism has a lot to do with this. You see this sort of corruption in most predominately Catholic areas. Catholics are mostly great individuals, but when the church influences politics, you run into trouble. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The culture sucks ass. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 9:16:18 PM EDT
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Is that trade controlled by violent cartels? Serious question. I don't know much about it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 9:25:09 PM EDT
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Law enforcement in Cartel-controlled Mexico is a no-win situation for someone who became a cop for the right reasons. If you have honor and try to wear the white hat your life and the lives of your loved ones is at genuine risk.
When the prevailing wage is $300-$400 a month, what do you expect a man to do when the choice is to take $5,000 or even $10,000 in bribes from the Cartel or watch you daughter get raped and killed? It's a shitty situation all around. Spending the holidays in Zuazua Mexico (outside of Monterrey) with my wife and her family years ago was a wonderful experience. The good, hardworking people I interacted with made this Gringo feel right at home. Real, genuine, down to earth people that would give you the shirt off their back. I would not go there now. One crystal clear memory is the gunfire on New Year's. Even in this tiny town 15 years ago it sounded and looked like Fallujah, complete with full-auto tracer streams into the air. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 9:41:56 PM EDT
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I think Mexico is great. Love the country, food, culture and people.
 They can keep their government though.
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Posted: 5/10/2017 9:43:44 PM EDT
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Funny to see some of the comments about McAllen.
The McCallen airport is the nicest airport south of San Antonio. The FBO is fantastic and very nice. There is a VERY impressive bunch of airplanes parked on the ramp, almost all registered to people in Mexico. The corruption doesn't stop at the border, there is plenty of it on the US side as well. The "culture" has worked it's way into all kinds and levels of government. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 10:21:26 PM EDT
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What's going to happen when they bring their turf wars into Texas? As it is, I'm told the sound of Mexican (army) gunships shooting the fuck out of a meth factory is a beautiful sound from a distance... |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 10:32:32 PM EDT
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Dupe
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Posted: 5/10/2017 10:33:29 PM EDT
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Unless it's micro scale, they'll get their dicks stomped in the dirt, and they know it. As it is, I'm told the sound of Mexican (army) gunships shooting the fuck out of a meth factory is a beautiful sound from a distance... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's going to happen when they bring their turf wars into Texas? As it is, I'm told the sound of Mexican (army) gunships shooting the fuck out of a meth factory is a beautiful sound from a distance... First time he went down there when he checked in at his duty station they "outfitted" him. He was issued a full CASE of ammo for every weapon he had- his pistol, his AR15 and his shotgun. They are not fucking around down there. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 10:35:06 PM EDT
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I realized I didn't know jack shit about mexico the moment I saw the MX military do M134 gun runs in a populated neighborhood. They wrecked a 4 suburban cartel convoy.
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Posted: 5/10/2017 10:37:18 PM EDT
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Clear and present danger it seems,........
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Posted: 5/10/2017 10:44:10 PM EDT
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I used to go drinking in Reynosa. I don't think I'd even venture into RGV anymore. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 10:49:20 PM EDT
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This. I'll be in Laredo the next couple of weekends. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I used to go drinking in Reynosa. I don't think I'd even venture into RGV anymore. Now? You take your life into your hands if you decide to go into Neuvo Laredo. I'll be in Laredo the next couple of weekends. Last time.it pretty quiet compared to other times. Must of been a holiday.
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Posted: 5/10/2017 11:28:59 PM EDT
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I go there fairly regular. Last time.it pretty quiet compared to other times. Must of been a holiday. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I used to go drinking in Reynosa. I don't think I'd even venture into RGV anymore. Now? You take your life into your hands if you decide to go into Neuvo Laredo. I'll be in Laredo the next couple of weekends. Last time.it pretty quiet compared to other times. Must of been a holiday. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 11:38:03 PM EDT
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Last time I went, probably 2005 or 2006, was with about 10 family members to Nuevo Laredo.....seemed dead.
Were there about 6 hrs....didn't seem too dangerous, until my brother pointed out a bar just a few blocks from "The Market" that was hit by a bomb through the front door.... We even ate at the Cadillac Bar and got smashed. As we were leaving a Laredo news station started asking us "Why are you here?" "Do you feel safe?" ...etc type questions... Haven't been back since, which really sux because it was a decent time for out of state family and us to go somewhere and make a daytrip out of it. Miss bringing back cheap tequila and some Dos Equis.... 
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Posted: 5/10/2017 11:48:03 PM EDT
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quite simply. mexico's problem is americans insatiable appetite for drugs that mexicans provide. because america has decided it will war on drugs and provide the third side of the three sided triangle that is the market for drugs.
americans want drugs our government doesnt want us to have drugs and they spend billions warring on drugs which makes illegal drug business an extremely high risk, high profit business worth billions that creates a level of violence unmatched in the world, except for syria. as a result a lot of meixcans and other latinos come here to get away for the violence in addition to looking for better economic opportunities. there is some much stupidity involved all around its unbelievable. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 12:02:06 AM EDT
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Hated that movie. Hate the whole message of, "you gringos are weak and we are strong." Shtick that Hollywood has been pushing for awhile now. They may be vicious, but they ain't organized and they certainly aren't well equipped. Perhaps someone could contract the Chinese to get Mexico under control they way they are doing in Africa and a bunch of other places. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Hated that movie. Hate the whole message of, "you gringos are weak and we are strong." Shtick that Hollywood has been pushing for awhile now. They may be vicious, but they ain't organized and they certainly aren't well equipped. Perhaps someone could contract the Chinese to get Mexico under control they way they are doing in Africa and a bunch of other places. I'd say the only weak person in the movie is Blunt. Anyway, I like this quote. Don't know if this is how shit really works or is viewed, but...I like it 
Matt: Medellin refers to a time when one group controlled every aspect of the drug trade, providing a measure of order that we could control. And until somebody finds a way to convince 20% of the population to stop snorting and smoking that shit, order's the best we can hope for. And what you saw up there, was Alejandro working toward returning that order.
Kate Macer: Alejandro works for the fucking Colombian Cartel. Matt: He works for the competition. Alejandro works for anyone who will point him toward the people who made him. Us. Them. Anyone who will turn him loose. So, he can get the person that cut off his wife's head, and threw his daughter into a vat of acid. Yeah. That's what we're dealing with. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 12:03:24 AM EDT
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Hated that movie. Hate the whole message of, "you gringos are weak and we are strong." Shtick that Hollywood has been pushing for awhile now. They may be vicious, but they ain't organized and they certainly aren't well equipped. Perhaps someone could contract the Chinese to get Mexico under control they way they are doing in Africa and a bunch of other places. A few things go sideways and we shall see who the real wolves are. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383325/image-205829.JPG We will not be crushed by foreign invaders, we will blame ourselves as we are lead to the gallows. I live in Texas. I bought an M82A1 and a huge stockpile of API for a reason, but our urban centers are filled with retards who will line up to die. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 12:11:46 AM EDT
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Shit occurs on our side of the river as well....but you'll never hear about it.
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Posted: 5/11/2017 12:35:23 AM EDT
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Woot, goin to Cancun/Riviera Maya next month.
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Posted: 5/11/2017 12:46:04 AM EDT
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Do not take you female family/girlfriends/mother/daughters to Mexico. A co-workers sister in law was gang raped in Ensenada by the local police on the beach. She has been in counseling for several years, still messed up in the head.
FUCK MEXICO. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 1:31:28 AM EDT
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Oh come now, it's not that bad. Please explain for all our friends from the North East and our resident Liberaltarians who didn't seem to have problems with the illegals for the longest time what the issues are. Those of us that LIVE HERE have known about it for a LONG FUCKING TIME and have been begging and pleading for help. All we got on Arfcom for YEARS was, "Any barriers to labor markets are illogical and unnecessary- so says the God Queen Rand". Swear to God I heard that fucking bullshit for YEARS here. You don't hear it now so much that everyone has grown up and moved out of mommies basement and figured out how the real world works....kinda funny that.... |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 1:45:31 AM EDT
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what's a sicario?
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Posted: 5/11/2017 2:06:34 AM EDT
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what's a sicario? |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 2:20:07 AM EDT
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At least the mexicans dont seem to be as gung ho suicidal as the arabs when it comes to this shit. No VBIED's and crap like that. I dont even know the fallout if a border checkpoint were to get hit by a carbomb. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 2:38:47 AM EDT
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Oh come now, it's not that bad. Please explain for all our friends from the North East and our resident Liberaltarians who didn't seem to have problems with the illegals for the longest time what the issues are. Those of us that LIVE HERE have known about it for a LONG FUCKING TIME and have been begging and pleading for help. All we got on Arfcom for YEARS was, "Any barriers to labor markets are illogical and unnecessary- so says the God Queen Rand". Swear to God I heard that fucking bullshit for YEARS here. You don't hear it now so much that everyone has grown up and moved out of mommies basement and figured out how the real world works....kinda funny that.... |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 2:45:06 AM EDT
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Reminds me of the border crossing gunfight scene in Sicario. After they shoot a carload of bad guys in front of dozens of people one guy says over the radio that this will be on the front page of every newspaper in America, and a more experienced guy says it won't even make the papers in El Paso. Cartels could full on capture cities and start doing military parades like ISIS did in Iraq and I'm not sure the MSM would talk about it. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 2:56:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryLol nope, that was outdated when it was still 2014.
The Zetas and Knights are kaput. CJNG and CDS..run the country with Del Golfos..fighting for plazas in the North. |
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