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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:15:19 PM EST
I’ve been seeing a lot of these lately, they’re the most extreme I’ve seen but there is a definite trend.
It’s awful. 
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:16:15 PM EST
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The rise of EVs will end it
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:17:18 PM EST
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:17:49 PM EST
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This looks like a cockholster moment for you OP.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:17:55 PM EST
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Lexus and Audi got into a grill war then Toyota starting getting the trickledown effects then BMW just went full fucking retard with it. It's horrible and compared to most folks on this site i'm pretty progressive when it comes to auto stuff but this shit needs to stop.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:18:27 PM EST
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They're not grills, just ugly black covers.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:18:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The rise of EVs will end it |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:18:51 PM EST
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:19:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This looks like a cockholster moment for you OP. You just get a new Avalon? |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:20:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You just get a new Avalon? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This looks like a cockholster moment for you OP. You just get a new Avalon?  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:21:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The rise of EVs will end it A lot of them will have faux grilles that don’t actually do anything and are purely for aesthetics. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:26:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of them will have faux grilles that don’t actually do anything and are purely for aesthetics. Not the good ones. 
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:28:08 PM EST
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I agree!
I hate those ridiculous looking grills and I always have. I think it started when Lexus started putting those ugly front ends on their cars - pure shit. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:28:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The rise of EVs will end it How did we go all those years with tiny grills but no overheating....  . Yes, more performance takes more cooling usually but its not like cars today gained 870 HP from the cars of a few years ago. I am with OP and the reason for the large grills is just trend and I don't like it.I will say tesla models have seen said fuck it and yes technically your correct in that respect. Maybe it is to get people to buy EV's because anything else is just ugly and it would be like getting BC's issued in boot camp.... 
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:29:27 PM EST
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It really has gotten outta hand
 Attached FileWhy the f does there need to be a TRD Avalon??  Avalons are supposed to be soft old man cruisers.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:33:12 PM EST
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:33:46 PM EST
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Agree 100% with OP.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:38:11 PM EST
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I have specifically passed on a GX for me, and again a couple years later for the wife because of the new Lexus grille being so ugly.
I was willing to eat the mpg and outdated drivetrain. Combined with the new grille I did not fo. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:40:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have specifically passed on a GX for me, and again a couple years later for the wife because of the new Lexus grille being so ugly. I was willing to eat the mpg and outdated drivetrain. Combined with the new grille I did not fo.   |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:40:38 PM EST
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:41:14 PM EST
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i am so embarrassed of the new BMW M3 and M4 grilles
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:48:41 PM EST
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Can’t speak to the cars, but the later model trucks can handle more load for longer because they cool better with the massive grilles. Looks weird, but it works.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:49:59 PM EST
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Isn't this due to the switch to r1234yf? These newer-gen refrigerants need MUCH larger condenser coils to perform as well as older formulas.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:50:26 PM EST
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Sorry but they are going to continue thanks to YOUR government agencies who are looking out for your best interest. Thanks to the NHTSA you will now be able to run over pedestrians with ease
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:52:20 PM EST
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1992 was minimum grill...
 2021...  The madness needs to end. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:53:02 PM EST
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WAT?!
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:55:47 PM EST
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I think it has more to do with pedestrian collision mandates and other .Gov safety mandates. So . Yeah
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:56:53 PM EST
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I was told it's Euro spec for ....pedestrian safety.
Yes softer front ends along with incresed room between the hood (where your head would impact) and the engine makes a kinder gentler runover. Makes as much sense as anything. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:57:37 PM EST
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Look like plows!
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:58:17 PM EST
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:59:11 PM EST
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As as been said it's due to pedestrian collision safety standards. Thanks .Gov...
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:00:55 PM EST
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:01:18 PM EST
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Best grill ever. Just an impish little grin, so happy about all the pedestrians he's about to devour!
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:01:20 PM EST
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Am I the only one that thinks they don't look bad?
Small grilled cars look ill-proportioned. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:02:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it has more to do with pedestrian collision mandates and other .Gov safety mandates. So . Yeah That's my understanding of it. Started in Eurpe IIRC. The taller front end is supposed to lessen the impact if a pedestrian is hit. They also added more distance between the hood and the top of the engine to lessen the chance of head injuries if a pedestrian lands on the hood. Never mind. Already posted. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:02:20 PM EST
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:02:21 PM EST
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*laughs in GMC*
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:02:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was told it's Euro spec for ....pedestrian safety. Yes softer front ends along with incresed room between the hood (where your head would impact) and the engine makes a kinder gentler runover. Makes as much sense as anything. Euro collision specs make car front ends more squared off instead of pointy. The do not force manufacturers to cover the front end with giant cheese graters instead of body colored bumpers. That is purely bad style. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:02:46 PM EST
[#38]
love the Lexus grill
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:04:39 PM EST
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Its a matter of taste. Some people love the faggy BMW grills and orange peel paint.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:09:34 PM EST
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:09:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They all want to look like an ugly ass ferd. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26010/412W2C64_wL__AC_SY580__jpg-1950590.JPG That is not a factory grill. But this is....  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:13:21 PM EST
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Another stupid thing l noticed with new cars and trucks is the headlight turning off when the turn signal is activated on the Same side
WTF would they make a headlight turn off when turning? |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:13:35 PM EST
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Along with the stupid iPad in the middle of the dash. Retarded.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:13:42 PM EST
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The trucks now are hideous. Rams aren’t awful, but Ford and GMs are redonkulous.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:14:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They all want to look like an ugly ass ferd. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26010/412W2C64_wL__AC_SY580__jpg-1950590.JPG They used Chatterbox from Hellraiser as their design inspiration. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:15:59 PM EST
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:17:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it has more to do with pedestrian collision mandates and other .Gov safety mandates. So . Yeah This. 80-90% of automotive design these days is dictated by compliance to govt mandates. Partially why crossovers are such a thing. They are the best platform to haul all those mandates around. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:17:41 PM EST
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BmWs new kidney grill is the worst on the market right now. It makes the Lexus grills look beautiful in comparison.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:18:35 PM EST
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 Ferd might be ahead of the curve. This is tasteful. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 4:19:19 PM EST
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So do massive center consoles. Give me my knee room back.
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