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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:21:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The trucks now are hideous. Rams aren’t awful, but Ford and GMs are redonkulous. Please point out the ones you think are "redonkulous". https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/gallery/ https://www.ford.com/trucks/super-duty/gallery/ And do really think this isn't awful?  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:22:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So do massive center consoles. Give me my knee room back. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:24:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:24:46 PM EDT
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China like big grill. Round eye get big grill too.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:25:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1992 was minimum grill... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Ford_Probe_GT_I.JPG 2021... https://www.jmlexus.com/assets/shared/CustomHTMLFiles/Responsive/MRP/Lexus/2021/LC/images/2021-Lexus-LC-01.jpg The madness needs to end. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:26:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it has more to do with pedestrian collision mandates and other .Gov safety mandates. So . Yeah
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:26:21 PM EDT
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Also another reason the Porsche 911 is the greatest automobile of all time.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:26:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:27:16 PM EDT
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It's awful, supposedly the new Tundra will look like a bass. I don't think anyone can top how ugly the new Chevy full-size trucks are.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:29:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:44:28 PM EDT
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Flat front end with vertical headlights work better on trucks. I also hate the big ass tablet sticking up from the center console look now.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:49:10 PM EDT
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They've been a long time coming.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:52:06 PM EDT
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Down with new cars!, especially EVs
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Posted: 5/21/2021 5:55:54 PM EDT
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I like the bigger grills
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:00:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLove splitbumpers. Too young to remember but I bet those were controversial when they came out. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:01:43 PM EDT
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just when i was starting to warm up to getting a chevy truck they do this.....
 Attached Fileand fuck up the fenders...  Attached Filethese older ones are pretty cool....  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:02:21 PM EDT
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Mine looks ok.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:03:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have specifically passed on a GX for me, and again a couple years later for the wife because of the new Lexus grille being so ugly. I was willing to eat the mpg and outdated drivetrain. Combined with the new grille I did not fo. https://www.victory4x4.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/VGXFS-46-0_3.jpg Damn. If that place also has the Prado rear door and spare I’m going to look again. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:09:14 PM EDT
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If I drive an electric shaver that means I don't have to actually shave in the morning, right?
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:12:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:17:26 PM EDT
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No power anything except power steering
No radio No air conditioning No GPS Basic OBD1 computer to run the spider injector No automatic transmission Headlight replacement costs $19 No carpet No headliner No ding door chimer No door pulls or door cards |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:18:23 PM EDT
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It feels good to be poor
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:22:53 PM EDT
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Quote History The newer Polaris RZRs are going the big grill route also . |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:23:26 PM EDT
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I like them.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:28:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat was a beautiful grill. The last of an awesome line of great American car grills. It all died after 1974. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:28:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. 80-90% of automotive design these days is dictated by compliance to govt mandates. Partially why crossovers are such a thing. They are the best platform to haul all those mandates around. This is part of why most modern cars look the same if you made them all one color. Only so many ways to meet all the regs |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:31:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So do massive center consoles. Give me my knee room back. Hello fellow tall person.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:40:47 PM EDT
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Quote Historythat grill always reminded me of the baleen whale....spicy little ride but she’s got a big mount.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:55:53 PM EDT
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Yeah, I had to have some reliable transportation going into the future, my other demands were without a turbo and with a key, so bought a 2020 Toyota Camry. Salesman wasn't happy when I told him I thought it looked like a catfish with it's mouth open, but bought it because cars are just getting worse with shit I don't want on my car.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 6:59:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As as been said it's due to pedestrian collision safety standards. Thanks .Gov... how the fuck does the size/shape of the grill have anything to do with pedestrian safety? |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:01:28 PM EDT
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OP is right. Look like shit.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:06:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMB is the only one making big grills that still look classy. That Benz logo is way too big though. The new BMWs looks horrible. The entire Lexus lineup looks like cow catchers. The Audis aren't that bad but they are boring. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:17:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't this due to the switch to r1234yf? These newer-gen refrigerants need MUCH larger condenser coils to perform as well as older formulas. Apparently the sailing through the air and hitting the ground behind the car part of it causes lots of neck, back, and head injuries that kills the idiot. They implemented a lot of stuff from these articles: https://www.edmunds.com/car-safety/protecting-pedestrians-through-vehicle-design.html https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1123098/ Some models of eurotrash cars even have "windshield breakers" that pre crack the class when they detect a meat-sack hit the bumper so they get a softer landing when they hit that part of the car. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:21:18 PM EDT
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They are there for a reason, CHEAP plastic.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:22:50 PM EDT
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Lexus grilles are massive. I've got one.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:26:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree! I hate those ridiculous looking grills and I always have. I think it started when Lexus started putting those ugly front ends on their cars - pure shit. I think it started with the GT-R. Ugly. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:29:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Am I the only one that thinks they don't look bad? Small grilled cars look ill-proportioned. Same here 1970s were just right |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:29:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another stupid thing l noticed with new cars and trucks is the headlight turning off when the turn signal is activated on the Same side WTF would they make a headlight turn off when turning? Because they are the DRLs and you can't see the blinker when they're on in daylight. They don't do it at night. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:30:53 PM EDT
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If you make the grill big enough, you don't even have to design a front end!
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:30:58 PM EDT
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Also if there is anybody to blame
blame East Asia From Japan, Korea to mainland China big grills are very popular there Hongqi H9 
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:31:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The rise of EVs will end it Negative. Energizer cars will never be the majority of vehicles on the road. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:33:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It really has gotten outta hand https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/448063/hf06i6abwncnbr6okvjz_jpg-1950547.JPG Why the f does there need to be a TRD Avalon?? Avalons are supposed to be soft old man cruisers.(They still are.....). Just tarted up for a new generation of fogeys that want "the look" without the actual performance. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:51:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My understanding it's the "if you hit a dumbass in the road" safety standards. The hood is supposed to deflect by a certain amount, and not make a sack of useless flesh fly over the car but rather land in the street in front. Apparently the sailing through the air and hitting the ground behind the car part of it causes lots of neck, back, and head injuries that kills the idiot. They implemented a lot of stuff from these articles: https://www.edmunds.com/car-safety/protecting-pedestrians-through-vehicle-design.html https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1123098/ Some models of eurotrash cars even have "windshield breakers" that pre crack the class when they detect a meat-sack hit the bumper so they get a softer landing when they hit that part of the car. This is correct. Had a conversation with an auto engineer. He broke down some of the "safety" styling as well as where the high prices are driven from. EPA Mandates DOT mandates Technology Lawyers Lawsuits Lawyers Said every auto sold has included "fixed" charge to cover the above. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 7:54:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Negative. Energizer cars will never be the majority of vehicles on the road. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The rise of EVs will end it Negative. Energizer cars will never be the majority of vehicles on the road. I agree, but you’ll never convince people of that. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 8:00:45 PM EDT
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It allows the engine to cool. Not all of us can afford cold fusion cars.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 8:03:48 PM EDT
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I like the way a lot of them look
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Posted: 5/21/2021 8:06:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Negative. Energizer cars will never be the majority of vehicles on the road. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The rise of EVs will end it Negative. Energizer cars will never be the majority of vehicles on the road. I'm not an EV fan (I think it's stupid to even bother making them with current lithium tech) but anyone should be able to see that the future will be electric. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 8:08:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it started with the GT-R. Ugly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I agree! I hate those ridiculous looking grills and I always have. I think it started when Lexus started putting those ugly front ends on their cars - pure shit. I think it started with the GT-R. Ugly. The big grill look is as old as cars. But the recent trend started with Audi around 2005. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 8:21:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It really has gotten outta hand https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/448063/hf06i6abwncnbr6okvjz_jpg-1950547.JPG Why the f does there need to be a TRD Avalon?? Avalons are supposed to be soft old man cruisers.Practical, yet absurd. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:21:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't this due to the switch to r1234yf? These newer-gen refrigerants need MUCH larger condenser coils to perform as well as older formulas. I assumed it was related to climate change or some aspect of social justice. |
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