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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:46:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You include pilota as support? Cuz after the JDAM wipes out the target, seems like infantry is just there for looks. I have never had a JDAM approved for a building I had to go in and clear out. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:46:07 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From my RS experience I think Jesus hated me. Everyone wants to have a Ranger tab, until they have to do Ranger tab things. However I would go to war with any of those guys, a piece of fabric means nothing in combat. They just didn't see a need for Ranger school. For me I went at failed at 27yrs old(failed patrols in mountains). CSM gave me a challenge 11yrs later and a opportunity, so I took it and went back. Not a big deal, I just did what 19-20yr old Ranger regiment kids have done for decades. Congratulations brother. I went OSUT to Airborne and straight to RIP. I don’t know if I would have done it at 27. Hardcore. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:47:27 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This light infantry dirty foreigner agrees with the OP.  Its like abusing the hired help or your Uber driver
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:48:43 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This light infantry dirty foreigner agrees with the OP. Father Boog has spoken. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:48:43 PM EDT
[#5]
There's a lot of truth in this thread - originating in and based upon the accurate assessment of the OP.
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:50:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a lot of truth in this thread - originating in and based upon the accurate assessment of the OP. Thanks for coming brother. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:51:59 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 12B  The 1st POGs!12B too - 898th Engineer Bn WA ARNG and 579th Engineer Bn CA ARNG  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:53:15 PM EDT
[#8]
Agreed
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:53:17 PM EDT
[#9]
It's true, but medical could carve out a third if they had any brains.
 However they like those half-day Thursdays!
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:53:35 PM EDT
[#10]
Artillery kills more people than infantry.
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:54:39 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Artillery kills more people than infantry. If you can't see the whites of their eyes does it really count though? |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:56:14 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed Welcome brother. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:56:51 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously question in a not so serious thread: Are they given special treatment? I can’t imagine a chick going through what I did. It damn near killed me as a 19 year old in perfect shape. I think only BUDS and Marsoc remain the only courses women have not completed to date. I can’t remember if it was PJ or which of USAF STS finally had a female. At least 2 thru the Q as I had a conversation with one of the cadre 2 years ago who informed me of the second female  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:57:01 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Artillery kills more people than infantry. We just tell you that to make you feel better. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:57:35 PM EDT
[#15]
OP is not wrong.
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:00:13 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think only BUDS and Marsoc remain the only courses women have not completed to date. I can’t remember if it was PJ or which of USAF STS finally had a female. At least 2 thru the Q as I had a conversation with one of the cadre 2 years ago who informed me of the second female https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_0302_jpeg-3048670.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_0301_jpeg-3048671.JPG I remember that. My son was in 34th Sapper at Schofield Barracks and he was bitching about it. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:00:45 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP is not wrong. Monica. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:01:14 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did the Infantry capture Tokyo? I missed that part. They would "of." |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:01:56 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have never had a JDAM approved for a building I had to go in and clear out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You include pilota as support? Cuz after the JDAM wipes out the target, seems like infantry is just there for looks. I have never had a JDAM approved for a building I had to go in and clear out. The one time the JDAM wasn’t approved, the taskforce commander ordered every tank and bradley to JDAM the building the old fashioned way. No more mortars walking in after that. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:03:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The one time the JDAM wasn’t approved, the taskforce commander ordered every tank and bradley to JDAM the building the old fashioned way. No more mortars walking in after that. Never had tanks or Bradley's either. But I have had Apache's and A10's. From time to time. (For support) |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:05:08 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Congratulations brother. I went OSUT to Airborne and straight to RIP. I don't know if I would have done it at 27. Hardcore. First time was 27 Second time I was 38. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:07:01 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never had tanks or Bradley's either. But I have had Apache's and A10's. From time to time. (For support) A10’s are like the Infantry of the sky. They’re the top of the support staff. But still just support. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:07:05 PM EDT
[#23]
The Long Tabbers would like a word……
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:07:24 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks First time was 27 Second time I was 38. Oof. - The next youngest guy in his class was half his age. - They must have thought he was some far-out old man, humping it over that course. - I did it when I was 19 and it damn near wasted me. - A tough motherfucker. He finished it. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:07:48 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes Agreed. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:08:07 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Long Tabbers would like a word…… They have infantry OSUT as a foundation. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:10:22 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny story about Ranger school I was a First Sergeant and any E5 and below with a tab was exempt from the CQ roster. In over a year I only had one in my Company that went, he broke his ankle in the Mountain phase. We always had slots but few people wanted to go. Keep in mind these were Airborne Infantrymen with 1-2 combat tours. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why would they waste a slot for God's chosen soldiers on a dirty tanker? I was a First Sergeant and any E5 and below with a tab was exempt from the CQ roster. In over a year I only had one in my Company that went, he broke his ankle in the Mountain phase. We always had slots but few people wanted to go. Keep in mind these were Airborne Infantrymen with 1-2 combat tours. I went as an E5. I'm pretty sure you were an RI then (2011). My Guard unit used to be stingy with slots. It took me a couple years even though I had a couple deployments and 300 APFT. We finally got a tabbed CSM who made it a priority to send anyone who was halfway squared away and a PT stud. By then folks were pretty burned out from deployments it was hard to find kids to make that commitment. After the deployments died down we seemed to get a lot more interest. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:15:24 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They would "of." Would have been more divisions than Normandy and southern France {forget name of that } put together  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:16:19 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Artillery kills more people than infantry. So does diabetes. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:17:48 PM EDT
[#30]
It depends. For a conventional ground war, OP is correct. “Boots on the ground” and the support of them.
The nuclear triad…or at least the threat of it…is what kept the Soviets reined in during the Cold War. Although your answer was mostly correct, it doesn’t stand up in 5th Gen warfare and possibly shades of 4th. Did the threat of more infantry end the war in the Pacific during WWII? Operation El Dorado Canyon? Like I said…it depends. Right tool for the right job. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:17:53 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They have infantry OSUT as a foundation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Long Tabbers would like a word…… They have infantry OSUT as a foundation. Plenty of non 11B end up with the long tab and in SOCOM / JSOC. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:18:26 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree as well, but when you fight beside your support guys I can't just throw them under the bus. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This light infantry dirty foreigner agrees with the OP. To be fair, in the Danish army, the categorization is into "combat troops" and every one else. Basically combat troops are infantry AND armor - and I am okay with that.  |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:18:28 PM EDT
[#33]
Essayons and air assault. OP is overpaid janitor and mad about it.
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:19:06 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oof. - The next youngest guy in his class was half his age. - They must have thought he was some far-out old man, humping it over that course. - I did it when I was 19 and it damn near wasted me. - A tough motherfucker. He finished it. https://www.ausa.org/news/former-sma-glen-morrell-dies  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:20:09 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Plenty of non 11B end up tabbed and in SOCOM and JSOC. Maybe I was just thinking of 18X. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:21:18 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We did not transport anyone and how does breaking out the canned sun shine support the Infantry? Attack boat sailor here. We actually did transport Marine divers several times. They swam out the escape trunk and that was the last we saw of them. Was a bitch getting our TLDs back. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:22:11 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe I was just thinking of 18X. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Plenty of non 11B end up tabbed and in SOCOM and JSOC. Maybe I was just thinking of 18X. Q course and Selection are open to all MOS. Most are 11 series but not all……… |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:22:56 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Plenty of non 11B end up with the long tab and in SOCOM / JSOC. I remember a guy, SGT Javier Ochoa, he got selected and I remember being stunned to learn his MOS was light wheel vehicke mechanic. SSG Wilcox 5/19 was an intel analyst before he got selected. Had an aviation mechanic who had been SFOD as well at 1/19 |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:25:09 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Essayons and air assault. OP is overpaid janitor and mad about it. Really wish I still had all of my pics - had one where we were doing a buffer race in the barracks at Bragg back in the 80s. Plus someone in Alpha company passed out drunk and they shaved half his head and half is mustache while he was out. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:27:47 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Essayons and air assault. OP is overpaid janitor and mad about it. lol. Good one, but nobody cares about a leg on a string. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:35:26 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Really wish I still had all of my pics - had one where we were doing a buffer race in the barracks at Bragg back in the 80s. Plus someone in Alpha company passed out drunk and they shaved half his head and half is mustache while he was out. Same. I lost almost all of my pictures when my basement flooded years ago. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:39:04 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same. I lost almost all of my pictures when my basement flooded years ago. One of our ARF members @Zoinks warned me to make copies but I went full retard and didn’t heed his advice. Was looking at gun safes over Black Friday and 2 1/2 hour fire with 72 hour flood protection cost like 7-10 grand and there weren’t any sales, 10% off was all I found unless it was Liberty safes  which had up to $1000 off |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:39:07 PM EDT
[#43]
5 will get you 10 if OP isn't an M65 jacket in public guy.
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:41:10 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol. Good one, but nobody cares about a leg on a string. I saw a ARNG CSM forget the unit, recently no short or long tab, who’s only badge was Pathfinder, no CAB, no CIB nada just Pathfinder - how the hell? |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:42:53 PM EDT
[#45]
Rocket Artillery here
MLRS.... shoot rockets deploy grenades and shape charges....  Red Leg for Life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So yes I was a weather man... I helped bring the steel rain..... Full enlistment was in tracks... |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:44:47 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 5 will get you 10 if OP isn't an M65 jacket in public guy. All I wanted was a cheeseburger.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:45:50 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw a ARNG CSM forget the unit, recently no short or long tab, who’s only badge was Pathfinder, no CAB, no CIB nada just Pathfinder - how the hell? Something’s fucky. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:46:55 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw a ARNG CSM forget the unit, recently no short or long tab, who’s only badge was Pathfinder, no CAB, no CIB nada just Pathfinder - how the hell? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol. Good one, but nobody cares about a leg on a string. I saw a ARNG CSM forget the unit, recently no short or long tab, who’s only badge was Pathfinder, no CAB, no CIB nada just Pathfinder - how the hell? Pathfinder is dead. Long live Pathfinder. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:49:41 PM EDT
[#49]
While not entirely wrong, everyone else can do what they do WITHOUT Infantry.
Infantry can't (or won't) do jack shit without everyone else. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:50:00 PM EDT
[#50]
Dirty leg checking in!
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