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Quoted: Geezers have ruined it with their pearl clutching. View Quote Luckily the people that supported smoking indoors are dying off. I am sensitive to smoke. I choose not to smoke- I shouldn't have to endure breathing your poison clouds. It seeps into carpet, drapes, and even walls. It stains teeth and wrinkles skin. The harm principle states: "people should be free to act however they wish unless their actions cause harm to somebody else" That's not communist that's libertarian. Perhaps the difference is lost on you. |
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Quoted: Geezers have ruined it with their pearl clutching. View Quote Yeah...keep puffin away. |
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OP must surely be okay with the neighbor’s dogs shutting in his yard, dumping their trash in the back of his truck bed, loud music being played late at night next door, and parking their cars in his driveway. He’s all about freedom man.
ETA - he’s not worried about chronic lung disease either. |
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I dont smoke. But i also dont support the government telling people what to do. Apparently the last bastion of freedom here is all for government control of private businesses.
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Quoted: I dont smoke. But i also dont support the government telling people what to do. Apparently the last bastion of freedom here is all for government control of private businesses. View Quote I agree with this. If a bar wants to allow its patrons to smoke, that's their right. I have a choice to go or not to go into their establishment. It's likely a bad business model to allow smoking these days, but you should be allowed to make bad decisions. Do you remember the smoking rooms they had in airports? Holy fuck! |
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And when you didn’t have to wear a helmet when riding a bicycle.
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Quoted: My grandpa died at 70 from COPD. His Brother died at 68 from lung cancer. Both were great men, gone too soon. Their wives lived 20+ years longer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Lol....nevermind getting older with COPD and wheeling around an O2 machine.. Yeah...keep puffin away. My grandpa died at 70 from COPD. His Brother died at 68 from lung cancer. Both were great men, gone too soon. Their wives lived 20+ years longer. My mother died of lung cancer at 38. Left three kids, one 9 (me), one just turned 8 and one 3. Her lungs were ate up from smoking, I saw the xrays when the doctor showed and explained them to my father and her brother. I had to breathe that shit from two people smoking the whole time I was growing up including being hotboxed in cars. Fuck anyone that wants to inflict their smoke on other people. |
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Quoted: Luckily the people that supported smoking indoors are dying off. I am sensitive to smoke. I choose not to smoke- I shouldn't have to endure breathing your poison clouds. It seeps into carpet, drapes, and even walls. It stains teeth and wrinkles skin. The harm principle states: "people should be free to act however they wish unless their actions cause harm to somebody else" That's not communist that's libertarian. Perhaps the difference is lost on you. View Quote On the other hand, people weren't so gay back then |
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Quoted: Geezers have ruined it with their pearl clutching. View Quote |
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Quoted: Fuck that. I lived through a couple of decades of that era, and I do not miss the whole fucking world smelling like a dirty ashtray or trying to taste my food from inside a toxic cloud. And I felt the same way about that nasty shit at 15 as I do now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Geezers have ruined it with their pearl clutching. Why is freedom so scary? If a business wants to cater to nasty smokers that should be their prerogative, and yours not to visit them |
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Quoted: Why is freedom so scary? If a business wants to cater to nasty smokers that should be their prerogative, and yours not to visit them View Quote You are for allowing a group of college students to hotbox an Applebees with blunts? Cause that is what would be happening everywhere if you were allowed to smoke indoors. Toddlers getting high as fuck a couple tables over. |
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Fuck no it wasn't! I remember that "smokers rights" shit all too well! Fuck all you goddamn smokers, polluting everyone's air with your foul shit. I remember, and resent to this day, all of your foul, dangerous shit I had to breathe into order to work. I hope all you smokers freeze to death standing outside for your fix.
That's one thing the liberals got right - banning all that shit. In restaurants, at work. Fuck you! It pisses me off just remembering all the shit I had to go through everywhere because of you foul, disgusting, selfish people. Fuck you again! |
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Quoted: Fuck no it wasn't! I remember that "smokers rights" shit all too well! Fuck all you goddamn smokers, polluting everyone's air with your foul shit. I remember, and resent to this day, all of your foul, dangerous shit I had to breathe into order to work. I hope all you smokers freeze to death standing outside for your fix. That's one thing the liberals got right - banning all that shit. In restaurants, at work. Fuck you! It pisses me off just remembering all the shit I had to go through everywhere because of you foul, disgusting, selfish people. Fuck you again! View Quote You already said that. Quit spamming my thread |
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Quoted: Why is freedom so scary? If a business wants to cater to nasty smokers that should be their prerogative, and yours not to visit them View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Geezers have ruined it with their pearl clutching. Why is freedom so scary? If a business wants to cater to nasty smokers that should be their prerogative, and yours not to visit them To paraphrase a great believer in liberty, "your freedom to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose." That said, and as I posted elsewhere, I'm all for the choice being in the hands of individual businesses. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I dont smoke. But i also dont support the government telling people what to do. Apparently the last bastion of freedom here is all for government control of private businesses. This is a terrible hill to die on. Don't worry. With their lung capacity, they'll never make It to the top. |
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Quoted: It definitively was. Why do you hate freedom? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Geezers have ruined it with their pearl clutching. No, it wasn't better when smoking was allowed. It is like tear gas and the whole place stank. Smoke whatever you want. Just don't inflict it on others. It definitively was. Why do you hate freedom? True, but everything smelled like cigarettes. |
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Quoted: Absolutely. As smoking rates decline, so does society. Coincidence? https://i.postimg.cc/L88TzgPN/IMG-4283.jpg View Quote Karen's are literally Hitler. But at least we have drag queen story hour now. |
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Quoted: I was pissed when my fave bar banned smoking.....until the next morning when I didn't stink and had less hangover from not chain smoking. View Quote It's a pretty significant difference. I remember showering after getting home just so my bed didn't smell like an ashtray. You could smell the cigarette stink rinsing away. It seems crazy now. |
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It was damned gross to go to a bar and get a film of stale nicotine funk on your clothes. Knowing what we know now, though, the anti smoking zealotry was a symptom and a warning of the authoritarian societal illness to come. I am usually in favor of more freedom, not less after the COVID lockdowns and authoritarian Karenization of society.
Down here in FL, most places have an outside area and it's not as big of a deal. Up north, it's a crappy situation either way in winter. |
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We would now like to thanks the alcoholic beverage industry who sponsored this thread.
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fuck no it was, nothing says smelling like a nasty ass ashtray screams freedom im sorry but fuck that stink... take that dirty ash hole smelling ass outside
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Quoted: I understand that you like to smoke. Smoke is the residue of cigarettes & cigars I like to drink beer. Urine is the residue of beer. If your OK with me having to breathe your residual smoke You shouldn't be mad when I piss on your head. Freedom! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It definitively was. Why do you hate freedom? I understand that you like to smoke. Smoke is the residue of cigarettes & cigars I like to drink beer. Urine is the residue of beer. If your OK with me having to breathe your residual smoke You shouldn't be mad when I piss on your head. Freedom! yep! |
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No reason people should have to smell that shit, it really stinks.
If that's what you want to do in your home then go for it. Out in public, keep that shit in your packet. |
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Actually the country was better off before the internet, which allows any and every one on the planet to post stupid shit and then sit back, nodding their head, smugly satisfied with the "wisdom" they have dispensed.
And it forces me to patrol the internet, correcting all of those who are wrong. On the internet. |
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When everyone stinks like an ashtray, no one stinks like an ashtray.
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The country was better but it had nothing to do with smoking.
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People that went to establishments that allow smoking but complained and people that sat in smoking section because they couldn’t bother waiting for a non smoking table then bitch about the smoking. They’re just the muh’ emotional support animal fa** of their time.
The anti-smoking, pro prohibition, pro WoD social engineering campaigns. Brought to you by the same people that said smoking weed was supporting Bin Laden and terrorism. |
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Former smoker here. I absolutely could not stand to smoke indoors. WTF would you want to smell like an ashtray?
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In 1953, 47% of American adults were smoking cigarettes. Supposedly. I just cannot imagine that level of stink.
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There's a lot of sensitive faggots using girl words in this thread.
No smoke filled places weren't great but we didn't bitch about it like tender little cunts. |
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While the title is true the 2 things are not connected.
Might as well say "This country was better when TVs had rabbit ears." |
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Quoted: I agree with this. If a bar wants to allow its patrons to smoke, that's their right. I have a choice to go or not to go into their establishment. It's likely a bad business model to allow smoking these days, but you should be allowed to make bad decisions. Do you remember the smoking rooms they had in airports? Holy fuck! View Quote |
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